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Comparing my scenario of the assassination to Ben Holmes's
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John Corbett
2023年4月15日 上午9:08:282023/4/15
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After numerous challenges from myself and others, Benny finally presented
his scenario of the assassination. Let's compare his to mine. First mine.
My scenario is the WCR scenario. Here's the short version:
Early in the week, Oswald learned that JFK's motorcade would be passing by the TSBD. For
reasons known only to him, he decided he would take advantage of this and kill JFK. He
constructed a makeshift bag and made an unusual Thursday night trip to the Paine's house in Irving to fetch his rifle. Because the rifle was 42" long and the bag only 40", he had to disassemble the rifle to make it fit. He went to Buell Wesley Frazier's house the next morning to get a ride to work. He lied to Frazier, telling him the package contained curtain rods. He carried
the package containing the rifle into work. He eventually decided to attempt the assassination from the southeast corner window of the 6th floor. He opened the package and reassembled the rifle and lay in wait for JFK's motorcade to appear which it did at 12:30 pm. He waited until the
limo had turned the corner on to Elm St and several seconds later fired the first shot that missed. I should point out this is my conclusion since the WC never concluded which of Oswald's shots missed. After missing the first shot, Oswald waited until JFK passed by the oak tree far enough
that he had a clear line of fire. Less than a second after JFK came into the clear, Oswald fired his second shot which struck JFK in the upper back, exited from his throat, passed through JBC's
torso, struck his wrist and lodged in his thigh. Almost 5 seconds later, Oswald fired his third
shot which struck JFK in the back of the head, blew open the upper right side of his head,, and exited from the front right of his skull. Pieces of that bullet were later found on the floor of the
limo and matched to Oswald's rifle as was the bullet that had lodged in JBC's thigh that was later found on a gurney at Parkland Hospital. The head wound was fatal and JFK was officially
pronounced dead at 1:00 pm. Oswald left the 6th floor window, walked across the 6th floor toward the rear stairs, dropping his rifle between some boxes. He descended the stairs and was
briefly detained by Officer Marrion Baker who released him after Roy Truly vouched for him as
an employee of the TSBD. He left the building at the front and first try to leave the area by bus. When the bus couldn't get throught the Houston/Elm intersection, he got off and walked several blocks to pick up a cab which took him to the neighborhood where his rooming house was. He entered the rooming house, fetched his handgun and a jacket and left about 1:00 pm. Shortly
after that he was stopped at 10th and Patton streets by officer J. D. Tippit. After a brief
conversation, Tippit got out of his cruiser and was shot dead by Oswald. Oswald fled the scene and later snuck into the Texas Theater as police cars were prowling the aread looking for a cop killer. They were notified by a witness that Oswald had snuck into the theater and the cops
went in. They surrounded him at which time Oswald pulled his handgun and tried to shoot one of
the arresting officers.
I followed the above scenario with a summation of the supporting evidence
which I first posted two years ago in response to another challenge from
Benny.
[quote on]
The WCR did a thorough job presenting the case against Oswald. Here's the Reader's Digest
version. The WC produced the rifle, the spent shells, and the bullets used to kill JFK. The
bullets and the shells were matched to the rifle to the exclusion of all other weapons in the
world. A clear paper trail and photos of Oswald with the rifle establish his ownership of such
rifle. Numerous witnesses identified the southeast corner window on the 6th floor of the
TSBD as the location of the gunman. One witness got a good enough look at him to ID Oswald.
Shells were found at the window those witnesses pointed to as the location of the gunman.
Oswald's prints were found on the tops of the boxes in the window oriented as they would be
if he was facing down Elm St. on the line of fire. A short distance away, a handmade bag was
found long enough to hold a disassembled Carcano rifle. Oswald's palm print was lifted from
the underside of the rifle barrel which could only have been placed there when the rifle was
disassembled. Fibers in the bag matched the blanket that Oswald used to store his rifle in the Paines' garage. Fibers matching the shirt Oswald was wearing when arrested were found in the
butt plate of the rifle found on the sixth floor. Immediately after the assassination, Oswald fled
the building and several witnesses establish that he first attempted to take a bus, then switched
to a cab to take him to his rooming house in Oak Cliff. Now if you want a summary of the
evidence that Oswald also killed Tippit, just say so.
[quote off]
Now, here's Benny's scenario which he chose to intersperse with mine.
[quote on]
I've stated, time and time again, that I can match, in both length,
detail, and number of citations - any "scenario" given by a believer.
I've twice before done this... and here now is the third time I've
done so.
Notice that it's LONGER than Corbutt's, it's easily just as detailed,
and although no cites were needed, as Corbutt provided none, any
researcher knows the cites that support this scenario.
>Early in the week, Oswald learned that JFK's motorcade would be passing by the TSBD.
The plan to assassinate JFK began earlier in the year, and several
earlier attempts were made ... Chicago, and Tampa. They all had the
same scenario in mind, a rifle from a high location, and a suspect
that could be easily framed.
>For reasons known only to him, he decided he would take advantage of this and kill JFK.
The planners knew that they could control the investigation, and would
never be subject to arrest. The reasons are numerous - JFK made
enemies of too many powerful people. Threatening to disband the CIA
was simply one of the many reasons. He was considered a traitor for
installing a hotline to the Kremlin. Ironically, his successor, LBJ ,
was the first to actually use it.
The planners were mid-level CIA employees, with help from a few Secred
Service members. They selected a patsy for the crime, someone they
could control.
According to former CIA finance officer James B. Wilcott’s testimony
before the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), Lee Harvey
Oswald “was a regular employee, receiving a full-time salary for agent
work, for doing CIA operational work.”
He was watched and controlled by his supervisor, William Shelley, who
had been with Military Intelligence during WWII, and then had joined
the CIA.
> He constructed a makeshift bag and made an unusual Thursday night
> trip to the Paine's house in Irving to fetch his rifle.
The planners had access to any rifles they wanted, and they chose a
military rifle that they had plenty of ammunition for...In 1954, the
DOD let a contract to Western Cartridge Company, a division of
Winchester-Olin, for 4 million rounds of 6.5x52mm Carcano full metal
jacket ammunition. The contract was requested by the CIA. In 1962,
this ammunition was re-imported into the United States, along with
many of the M38 Carcano rifles it was intended for, and was released
for sale onto the US civilian market. The four million rounds were
produced as part of four 1-million-round lots, numbered 6000, 6001,
6002, and 6003. The rounds came in plain white cardboard boxes of 20
rounds each.
These four lots were the only lots of 6.5x52mm Carcano ammunition ever
produced by Western, making identification of the rounds, easy. During
the Warren Hearings, Dr. Alfred Olivier of Edgewood Arsenal gave
testimony regarding the nature of the ammunition used in the
assassination:
MR. SPECTER: And What gun was used?
DR. OLIVIER: It was a 6.5mm Mannlicher-Carcano that was marked
Commission Exhibit 139.
MR. SPECTER: What bullets were used?
DR. OLIVIER: It was the 6.5 millimeter Mannlicher-Carcano Western
Ammunition lot 6,000.
So we see that ACCORDING TO THE WC, the bullet that killed JFK was
purchased by the CIA.
> Because the rifle was 42" long and the bag only 40", he had to
> disassemble the rifle to make it fit.
The rifle could not have been brought into the TSBD via a paper bag
that was too short to hold the rifle. It was most likely taken into
the building a day or two earlier (as were other rifles).
Someone was quick thinking, however, and a bag was constructed onsite
and paraded out of the building as the way Oswald brought a rifle INTO
the building.
Both bringing in, and just as important, bringing out rifles
undetected from the building was a simple matter - put it in a box,
and ship it.
> He went to Buell Wesley Frazier's house the next morning to get a
> ride to work. He lied to Frazier, telling him the package contained
> curtain rods. He carried the package containing the rifle into work.
The selected assassins drove to Dallas, and set up several locations,
the TSBD and the Grassy Knoll being two of them that have obvious
evidence for. The opposite knoll was where one of the assassins fired
the first shot, creating a hole in the windshield and striking JFK in
the throat - as the *ONLY* medical examination of this wound showed it
was an entry wound.
> He eventually decided to attempt the assassination from the southeast
> corner window of the 6th floor. He opened the package and reassembled
> the rifle and lay in wait for JFK's motorcade to appear which it did
> at 12:30 pm.
The assassins were aided by the Secret Service, who stripped the limo
of the two rear agents, and had the police motorcycles move out of the
way for the Grassy Knoll shooter. These assassins all timed their
shots to when the limo reached the newly painted yellow marker on the
curb. This would make it difficult to tell how many shots were fired.
> He waited until the limo had turned the corner on to Elm St and
> several seconds later fired the first shot that missed.
When the limo reached the yellow marker, the shooter at the South
Knoll fired first, through the windshield, and struck JFK in the
throat.
> I should point out this is my conclusion since the WC never concluded
> which of Oswald's shots missed.
I should point out that people who have claimed that later examnation
of the Zapruder film could show which shot "missed" simply lied... as
it's not possible to tell from the Zapruder film a precise time for
any but *one* shot.
And yes, it's Corbutt who was the liar who told this lie.
As there were more than three shots fired, it's a moot point which one
missed anyway. We have evidence for at least TWO missed shots, the
one that struck the curb, and the one that buried itself in the grass.
> After missing the first shot, Oswald waited until JFK passed by the
> oak tree far enough that he had a clear line of fire. Less than a
> second after JFK came into the clear, Oswald fired his second shot
> which struck JFK in the upper back, exited from his throat, passed
> through JBC's
After the South Knoll shooter struck JFK, one of the two TSBD shooters
fired, and aimed so poorly that the bullet's trajectory was several
feet ABOVE the limo, finally striking the curb, and injuring Tague.
>torso, struck his wrist and lodged in his thigh.
Firing a second time, the TSBD shooter shot JFK in the back. Ths may
well have been the second of the two TSBD shooters, as the first one
clearly had problems.
Connally was still uninjured, the WC recognizing that he showed no
reaction at that time to a shot, hypothesizing that Connally had a
"delayed reaction."
Another shot, quite likely from the Southwest window - furthest from
the SN, then struck Connally.
The Grassy Knoll shooter now fired, striking Connally in the wrist.
Connally's leg wound was likely a sheared off fragment from one of the
other two bullets that struck him.
> Almost 5 seconds later, Oswald fired his third shot which struck JFK
> in the back of the head, blew open the upper right side of his head,,
> and exited from the front right of his skull. Pieces of that bullet
> were later found on the floor of the limo and matched to Oswald's
> rifle as was the bullet that had lodged in JBC's thigh that was later
> found on a gurney at Parkland Hospital. The head wound was fatal and
> JFK was officially pronounced dead at 1:00 pm.
Pieces of the CIA purchased bullet were matched to a Mannlicher
Carcano rifle that had paperwork forged to place it in the ownership
of the designated patsy. Some things were simply beyond the control
of the framers - they clearly didn't think through the issues of
mailing a rifle to a P.O. box.
> Oswald left the 6th floor window, walked across the 6th floor toward
> the rear stairs, dropping his rifle between some boxes. He descended
> the stairs and was briefly detained by Officer Marrion Baker who
> released him after Roy Truly vouched for him as an employee of the
> TSBD.
As officers rushed in to the building, they encountered a non-TSDB
person descending the stairs, one of the shooters. Another shooter
ran out the back door of the TSBD.
> He left the building at the front and first try to leave the area by
> bus. When the bus couldn't get throught the Houston/Elm intersection,
> he got off and walked several blocks to pick up a cab which took him
> to the neighborhood where his rooming house was. He entered the
> rooming house, fetched his handgun and a jacket and left about 1:00
> pm.
The shooters then left Dallas quickly, the two knoll shooters simply
driving out (Parking lots at both locations), and the two TSBD
shooters perhaps having a car stashed nearby... then most likely
having flown out on a plane being held for them at the airport.
> Shortly after that he was stopped at 10th and Patton streets by
> officer J. D. Tippit. After a brief conversation, Tippit got out of
> his cruiser and was shot dead by Oswald. Oswald fled the scene and
> later snuck into the Texas Theater as police cars were prowling the
> aread looking for a cop killer. They were notified by a witness that
> Oswald had snuck into the theater and the cops went in. They
> surrounded him at which time Oswald pulled his handgun and tried to
> shoot one of the arresting officers.
Tippit was murdered by two individuals, and it's completely unknown if
it's connected to the JFK murder, or simply a coincidence in time. The
patsy couldn't have made it there to be the suspect in the Tippit
killing, but a little creative effort changed that.
This scenario obviously doesn't include much of the detail that my
longer scenario includes - but I predict that responses to this
scenario will include complaints that I've not explained this, or
explained that - not realizing that neither did Corbutt.
[quote off]
Unlike my scenario which included a summation of the evidence against
Oswald, Benny offers no supporting evidence for any of his allegations. His
scenario is based on assumptions, speculations, and inuendoes. He names
no one as suspects, referring to them vaguely as "the planners" or "the
shooters". This isn't much different than simply calling the perpetrators
"they" which has long been a practice of conspiracy hobbyists.
Benny's scenario offers few specifics. Other than Oswald's Carcano which
he believes was fired by someone other than Oswald, he offers no other
weapons, bullets, shells, or even calibers as evidence of other shooters.
His scenario for the shots from various locations and the wounds they
caused is preposterous, requiring impossible geometry and numerous
magic bullets. The shooting could not possibly have happened the way
Benny describes.
After reading Benny's scenario, it's easy to understand why he was so
reluctant to present it. It practically refute itself.
his scenario of the assassination. Let's compare his to mine. First mine.
My scenario is the WCR scenario. Here's the short version:
Early in the week, Oswald learned that JFK's motorcade would be passing by the TSBD. For
reasons known only to him, he decided he would take advantage of this and kill JFK. He
constructed a makeshift bag and made an unusual Thursday night trip to the Paine's house in Irving to fetch his rifle. Because the rifle was 42" long and the bag only 40", he had to disassemble the rifle to make it fit. He went to Buell Wesley Frazier's house the next morning to get a ride to work. He lied to Frazier, telling him the package contained curtain rods. He carried
the package containing the rifle into work. He eventually decided to attempt the assassination from the southeast corner window of the 6th floor. He opened the package and reassembled the rifle and lay in wait for JFK's motorcade to appear which it did at 12:30 pm. He waited until the
limo had turned the corner on to Elm St and several seconds later fired the first shot that missed. I should point out this is my conclusion since the WC never concluded which of Oswald's shots missed. After missing the first shot, Oswald waited until JFK passed by the oak tree far enough
that he had a clear line of fire. Less than a second after JFK came into the clear, Oswald fired his second shot which struck JFK in the upper back, exited from his throat, passed through JBC's
torso, struck his wrist and lodged in his thigh. Almost 5 seconds later, Oswald fired his third
shot which struck JFK in the back of the head, blew open the upper right side of his head,, and exited from the front right of his skull. Pieces of that bullet were later found on the floor of the
limo and matched to Oswald's rifle as was the bullet that had lodged in JBC's thigh that was later found on a gurney at Parkland Hospital. The head wound was fatal and JFK was officially
pronounced dead at 1:00 pm. Oswald left the 6th floor window, walked across the 6th floor toward the rear stairs, dropping his rifle between some boxes. He descended the stairs and was
briefly detained by Officer Marrion Baker who released him after Roy Truly vouched for him as
an employee of the TSBD. He left the building at the front and first try to leave the area by bus. When the bus couldn't get throught the Houston/Elm intersection, he got off and walked several blocks to pick up a cab which took him to the neighborhood where his rooming house was. He entered the rooming house, fetched his handgun and a jacket and left about 1:00 pm. Shortly
after that he was stopped at 10th and Patton streets by officer J. D. Tippit. After a brief
conversation, Tippit got out of his cruiser and was shot dead by Oswald. Oswald fled the scene and later snuck into the Texas Theater as police cars were prowling the aread looking for a cop killer. They were notified by a witness that Oswald had snuck into the theater and the cops
went in. They surrounded him at which time Oswald pulled his handgun and tried to shoot one of
the arresting officers.
I followed the above scenario with a summation of the supporting evidence
which I first posted two years ago in response to another challenge from
Benny.
[quote on]
The WCR did a thorough job presenting the case against Oswald. Here's the Reader's Digest
version. The WC produced the rifle, the spent shells, and the bullets used to kill JFK. The
bullets and the shells were matched to the rifle to the exclusion of all other weapons in the
world. A clear paper trail and photos of Oswald with the rifle establish his ownership of such
rifle. Numerous witnesses identified the southeast corner window on the 6th floor of the
TSBD as the location of the gunman. One witness got a good enough look at him to ID Oswald.
Shells were found at the window those witnesses pointed to as the location of the gunman.
Oswald's prints were found on the tops of the boxes in the window oriented as they would be
if he was facing down Elm St. on the line of fire. A short distance away, a handmade bag was
found long enough to hold a disassembled Carcano rifle. Oswald's palm print was lifted from
the underside of the rifle barrel which could only have been placed there when the rifle was
disassembled. Fibers in the bag matched the blanket that Oswald used to store his rifle in the Paines' garage. Fibers matching the shirt Oswald was wearing when arrested were found in the
butt plate of the rifle found on the sixth floor. Immediately after the assassination, Oswald fled
the building and several witnesses establish that he first attempted to take a bus, then switched
to a cab to take him to his rooming house in Oak Cliff. Now if you want a summary of the
evidence that Oswald also killed Tippit, just say so.
[quote off]
Now, here's Benny's scenario which he chose to intersperse with mine.
[quote on]
I've stated, time and time again, that I can match, in both length,
detail, and number of citations - any "scenario" given by a believer.
I've twice before done this... and here now is the third time I've
done so.
Notice that it's LONGER than Corbutt's, it's easily just as detailed,
and although no cites were needed, as Corbutt provided none, any
researcher knows the cites that support this scenario.
>Early in the week, Oswald learned that JFK's motorcade would be passing by the TSBD.
The plan to assassinate JFK began earlier in the year, and several
earlier attempts were made ... Chicago, and Tampa. They all had the
same scenario in mind, a rifle from a high location, and a suspect
that could be easily framed.
>For reasons known only to him, he decided he would take advantage of this and kill JFK.
The planners knew that they could control the investigation, and would
never be subject to arrest. The reasons are numerous - JFK made
enemies of too many powerful people. Threatening to disband the CIA
was simply one of the many reasons. He was considered a traitor for
installing a hotline to the Kremlin. Ironically, his successor, LBJ ,
was the first to actually use it.
The planners were mid-level CIA employees, with help from a few Secred
Service members. They selected a patsy for the crime, someone they
could control.
According to former CIA finance officer James B. Wilcott’s testimony
before the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), Lee Harvey
Oswald “was a regular employee, receiving a full-time salary for agent
work, for doing CIA operational work.”
He was watched and controlled by his supervisor, William Shelley, who
had been with Military Intelligence during WWII, and then had joined
the CIA.
> He constructed a makeshift bag and made an unusual Thursday night
> trip to the Paine's house in Irving to fetch his rifle.
The planners had access to any rifles they wanted, and they chose a
military rifle that they had plenty of ammunition for...In 1954, the
DOD let a contract to Western Cartridge Company, a division of
Winchester-Olin, for 4 million rounds of 6.5x52mm Carcano full metal
jacket ammunition. The contract was requested by the CIA. In 1962,
this ammunition was re-imported into the United States, along with
many of the M38 Carcano rifles it was intended for, and was released
for sale onto the US civilian market. The four million rounds were
produced as part of four 1-million-round lots, numbered 6000, 6001,
6002, and 6003. The rounds came in plain white cardboard boxes of 20
rounds each.
These four lots were the only lots of 6.5x52mm Carcano ammunition ever
produced by Western, making identification of the rounds, easy. During
the Warren Hearings, Dr. Alfred Olivier of Edgewood Arsenal gave
testimony regarding the nature of the ammunition used in the
assassination:
MR. SPECTER: And What gun was used?
DR. OLIVIER: It was a 6.5mm Mannlicher-Carcano that was marked
Commission Exhibit 139.
MR. SPECTER: What bullets were used?
DR. OLIVIER: It was the 6.5 millimeter Mannlicher-Carcano Western
Ammunition lot 6,000.
So we see that ACCORDING TO THE WC, the bullet that killed JFK was
purchased by the CIA.
> Because the rifle was 42" long and the bag only 40", he had to
> disassemble the rifle to make it fit.
The rifle could not have been brought into the TSBD via a paper bag
that was too short to hold the rifle. It was most likely taken into
the building a day or two earlier (as were other rifles).
Someone was quick thinking, however, and a bag was constructed onsite
and paraded out of the building as the way Oswald brought a rifle INTO
the building.
Both bringing in, and just as important, bringing out rifles
undetected from the building was a simple matter - put it in a box,
and ship it.
> He went to Buell Wesley Frazier's house the next morning to get a
> ride to work. He lied to Frazier, telling him the package contained
> curtain rods. He carried the package containing the rifle into work.
The selected assassins drove to Dallas, and set up several locations,
the TSBD and the Grassy Knoll being two of them that have obvious
evidence for. The opposite knoll was where one of the assassins fired
the first shot, creating a hole in the windshield and striking JFK in
the throat - as the *ONLY* medical examination of this wound showed it
was an entry wound.
> He eventually decided to attempt the assassination from the southeast
> corner window of the 6th floor. He opened the package and reassembled
> the rifle and lay in wait for JFK's motorcade to appear which it did
> at 12:30 pm.
The assassins were aided by the Secret Service, who stripped the limo
of the two rear agents, and had the police motorcycles move out of the
way for the Grassy Knoll shooter. These assassins all timed their
shots to when the limo reached the newly painted yellow marker on the
curb. This would make it difficult to tell how many shots were fired.
> He waited until the limo had turned the corner on to Elm St and
> several seconds later fired the first shot that missed.
When the limo reached the yellow marker, the shooter at the South
Knoll fired first, through the windshield, and struck JFK in the
throat.
> I should point out this is my conclusion since the WC never concluded
> which of Oswald's shots missed.
I should point out that people who have claimed that later examnation
of the Zapruder film could show which shot "missed" simply lied... as
it's not possible to tell from the Zapruder film a precise time for
any but *one* shot.
And yes, it's Corbutt who was the liar who told this lie.
As there were more than three shots fired, it's a moot point which one
missed anyway. We have evidence for at least TWO missed shots, the
one that struck the curb, and the one that buried itself in the grass.
> After missing the first shot, Oswald waited until JFK passed by the
> oak tree far enough that he had a clear line of fire. Less than a
> second after JFK came into the clear, Oswald fired his second shot
> which struck JFK in the upper back, exited from his throat, passed
> through JBC's
After the South Knoll shooter struck JFK, one of the two TSBD shooters
fired, and aimed so poorly that the bullet's trajectory was several
feet ABOVE the limo, finally striking the curb, and injuring Tague.
>torso, struck his wrist and lodged in his thigh.
Firing a second time, the TSBD shooter shot JFK in the back. Ths may
well have been the second of the two TSBD shooters, as the first one
clearly had problems.
Connally was still uninjured, the WC recognizing that he showed no
reaction at that time to a shot, hypothesizing that Connally had a
"delayed reaction."
Another shot, quite likely from the Southwest window - furthest from
the SN, then struck Connally.
The Grassy Knoll shooter now fired, striking Connally in the wrist.
Connally's leg wound was likely a sheared off fragment from one of the
other two bullets that struck him.
> Almost 5 seconds later, Oswald fired his third shot which struck JFK
> in the back of the head, blew open the upper right side of his head,,
> and exited from the front right of his skull. Pieces of that bullet
> were later found on the floor of the limo and matched to Oswald's
> rifle as was the bullet that had lodged in JBC's thigh that was later
> found on a gurney at Parkland Hospital. The head wound was fatal and
> JFK was officially pronounced dead at 1:00 pm.
Pieces of the CIA purchased bullet were matched to a Mannlicher
Carcano rifle that had paperwork forged to place it in the ownership
of the designated patsy. Some things were simply beyond the control
of the framers - they clearly didn't think through the issues of
mailing a rifle to a P.O. box.
> Oswald left the 6th floor window, walked across the 6th floor toward
> the rear stairs, dropping his rifle between some boxes. He descended
> the stairs and was briefly detained by Officer Marrion Baker who
> released him after Roy Truly vouched for him as an employee of the
> TSBD.
As officers rushed in to the building, they encountered a non-TSDB
person descending the stairs, one of the shooters. Another shooter
ran out the back door of the TSBD.
> He left the building at the front and first try to leave the area by
> bus. When the bus couldn't get throught the Houston/Elm intersection,
> he got off and walked several blocks to pick up a cab which took him
> to the neighborhood where his rooming house was. He entered the
> rooming house, fetched his handgun and a jacket and left about 1:00
> pm.
The shooters then left Dallas quickly, the two knoll shooters simply
driving out (Parking lots at both locations), and the two TSBD
shooters perhaps having a car stashed nearby... then most likely
having flown out on a plane being held for them at the airport.
> Shortly after that he was stopped at 10th and Patton streets by
> officer J. D. Tippit. After a brief conversation, Tippit got out of
> his cruiser and was shot dead by Oswald. Oswald fled the scene and
> later snuck into the Texas Theater as police cars were prowling the
> aread looking for a cop killer. They were notified by a witness that
> Oswald had snuck into the theater and the cops went in. They
> surrounded him at which time Oswald pulled his handgun and tried to
> shoot one of the arresting officers.
Tippit was murdered by two individuals, and it's completely unknown if
it's connected to the JFK murder, or simply a coincidence in time. The
patsy couldn't have made it there to be the suspect in the Tippit
killing, but a little creative effort changed that.
This scenario obviously doesn't include much of the detail that my
longer scenario includes - but I predict that responses to this
scenario will include complaints that I've not explained this, or
explained that - not realizing that neither did Corbutt.
[quote off]
Unlike my scenario which included a summation of the evidence against
Oswald, Benny offers no supporting evidence for any of his allegations. His
scenario is based on assumptions, speculations, and inuendoes. He names
no one as suspects, referring to them vaguely as "the planners" or "the
shooters". This isn't much different than simply calling the perpetrators
"they" which has long been a practice of conspiracy hobbyists.
Benny's scenario offers few specifics. Other than Oswald's Carcano which
he believes was fired by someone other than Oswald, he offers no other
weapons, bullets, shells, or even calibers as evidence of other shooters.
His scenario for the shots from various locations and the wounds they
caused is preposterous, requiring impossible geometry and numerous
magic bullets. The shooting could not possibly have happened the way
Benny describes.
After reading Benny's scenario, it's easy to understand why he was so
reluctant to present it. It practically refute itself.
John Corbett
2023年4月15日 上午10:53:162023/4/15
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I realize the above post is rather lengthy and if someone wants to spare themselves the
tortuous task of reading Benny's rambling, unsourced scenario, they can skip to the bottom
for my summation of it. Just skimming through a few examples of Benny's assertions should
be enough to see that what I described is accurate.
tortuous task of reading Benny's rambling, unsourced scenario, they can skip to the bottom
for my summation of it. Just skimming through a few examples of Benny's assertions should
be enough to see that what I described is accurate.
Ben Holmes
2023年4月17日 上午9:55:012023/4/17
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:08:26 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>After numerous challenges from myself and others, Benny finally presented
>his scenario of the assassination. Let's compare his to mine. First mine.
>
>My scenario is the WCR scenario. Here's the short version:
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<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>After numerous challenges from myself and others, Benny finally presented
>his scenario of the assassination. Let's compare his to mine. First mine.
>
>My scenario is the WCR scenario. Here's the short version:
>Now, here's Benny's scenario which he chose to intersperse with mine.
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>[quote on]
>
>I've stated, time and time again, that I can match, in both length,
>detail, and number of citations - any "scenario" given by a believer.
>I've twice before done this... and here now is the third time I've
>done so.
>
>Notice that it's LONGER than Corbutt's, it's easily just as detailed,
>and although no cites were needed, as Corbutt provided none, any
>researcher knows the cites that support this scenario.
correct.
matched that number.
Just as I said I would.
Your "summation" is merely more empty claims.
> His scenario is based on assumptions, speculations, and inuendoes.
> He names no one as suspects, referring to them vaguely as "the planners" or "the
>shooters". This isn't much different than simply calling the perpetrators
>"they" which has long been a practice of conspiracy hobbyists.
>Benny's scenario offers few specifics.
> Other than Oswald's Carcano which
>he believes was fired by someone other than Oswald, he offers no other
>weapons, bullets, shells, or even calibers as evidence of other shooters.
>His scenario for the shots from various locations and the wounds they
>caused is preposterous, requiring impossible geometry and numerous
>magic bullets. The shooting could not possibly have happened the way
>Benny describes.
authoritative citation showing that "impossible geometry."
>After reading Benny's scenario, it's easy to understand why he was so
>reluctant to present it. It practically refute itself.
never touched it.
Ben Holmes
2023年4月17日 上午9:55:042023/4/17
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 07:53:15 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I realize the above post is rather lengthy and if someone wants to spare themselves the
>tortuous task of reading Benny's rambling, unsourced scenario,
Or Corbutts rambling unsourced scenario...
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I realize the above post is rather lengthy and if someone wants to spare themselves the
>tortuous task of reading Benny's rambling, unsourced scenario,
> they can skip to the bottom for my summation of it. Just skimming
> through a few examples of Benny's assertions should be enough to
> see that what I described is accurate.
that you're a liar.
Don't you just HATE the fact that I can match, in length, detail, and
number of citations any scenario that a believer can post?
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