Ben Holmes, Day 3

[John Corbett]

The Ben Holmes watch continues. Benny, like Oswald, would go somewhere
else on weekend and then return on Monday and resume being his usual
obnoxious self. That hasn't happened this week. No sign of Ben. Not that
I'm losing any sleep over it.

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

It wouldn't bother me none if you dropped dead neither.

[Gil Jesus]

These losers make me laugh.
They come in here flaming the "conspiracy hobbyists" but if the "hobbyists" don't post for a few days, they cry for them like a baby for its momma.
The truth is they NEED posters like Ben Holmes so they have someone to spew their hatred at.
Without posters like Ben, there is no purpose in their boring, pathetic lives.

ROFLMAO

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

That's why they exist, to troll people who know that JFK was murdered by a conspiracy. It's a very strange hobby they have.

[John Corbett]

“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know
for sure that just ain’t so.”

[Charles Schuyler]

You might be surprised to learn that you dropping dead apparently wouldn't matter to Ben, either. He thought you were so absurd that you must be a "plant" to make CTs look ridiculous. This is from some posts I collected from Ben, and he wrote this about you:

Ben, addressing myself:

"It's amusing how you mix outright lies with truth. This item is true, [My insert: Ben is referring to #76] even **YOU** would admit it if you weren't so dishonest. There's a good example even in this forum... one that *YOU KNOW*... 19efppp. Believers don't argue with him, because you *KNOW* he's really on your side." [My insert: Ben believes some individual who posts at this board under "19efppp" is secretly a supporter the Oswald Alone narrative but posts silly "pro conspiracy" stuff to make the "real" conspiracy heavyweights like Ben look silly.]

Yep, Ben thinks you're a Lone Nutter. Congrats.

[donald willis]

And Tom Corbett knows everything for sure! Why do you keep walking into that, Tom?

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

Naturally. But I think Ben has some value, even if he thinks I don't. That's just the way it is. I'm okay with it. It's like Trump. He's an awful sack of shit, but he did beat Hillary. He has some value.

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

And DVP also is an obnoxious sack of shit. But a couple of his videos are actually useful. Like Trump and Ben, DVP has some value, not much, but some.

[BT George]

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

We like you too!

[BT George]

You need us too silly. Else you are going to get waaaaaayyyyyyy bored in your little CT world arguing wid each other just how "innocent" Oz is. If you care less about Benny as a CT than we do as LN's it says something other than just what "bad" people we are.

[Gil Jesus]

Sorry, I'm not a CTer. I don't see conspiracies everywhere.
I'm a Warren Commission critic.

[Bud]

What a silly thing to be.

[Gil Jesus]

What a silly thing to say.

[Bud]

Really? You profess to be the critic of an investigation conducted almost sixty years ago. Might as well critique the calls made in the 1963 Super Bowl.

[John Corbett]

There was no 1963 Super Bowl. Super Bowl I was played in January of 1967. In fact, they didn't even call it the Super Bowl that first year. But since conspiracy hobbyists aren't much interested in facts, what difference does it make. Might as well fantasize a Super Bowl four years before it
occurred.

For what it's worth, the 1963 NFL championship game was held on December 29, 1963 when the
Chicago Bears beat the New York Giants 14-10 at Wrigley Field. It was George Halas' last
championship team and the last time the Giants played in a championship game until the 1980s when Bill Parcells was their coach.

[Bud]

On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:44:42 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:29:37 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:52:18 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
> > > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:51:01 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:43:48 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 3:10:13 PM UTC-4, BT George wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:21:51 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
> > > > > > > These losers make me laugh.
> > > > > > > They come in here flaming the "conspiracy hobbyists" but if the "hobbyists" don't post for a few days, they cry for them like a baby for its momma.
> > > > > > > The truth is they NEED posters like Ben Holmes so they have someone to spew their hatred at.
> > > > > > > Without posters like Ben, there is no purpose in their boring, pathetic lives.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ROFLMAO
> > > > > > You need us too silly. Else you are going to get waaaaaayyyyyyy bored in your little CT world arguing wid each other just how "innocent" Oz is. If you care less about Benny as a CT than we do as LN's it says something other than just what "bad" people we are.
> > > > > Sorry, I'm not a CTer. I don't see conspiracies everywhere.
> > > > > I'm a Warren Commission critic.
> > > > What a silly thing to be.
> > > What a silly thing to say.
> > Really? You profess to be the critic of an investigation conducted almost sixty years ago. Might as well critique the calls made in the 1963 Super Bowl.
> There was no 1963 Super Bowl. Super Bowl I was played in January of 1967.

What`s worse is I looked it up and still put the wrong year up. This is from my history at 7:27...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl

[John Corbett]

On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:50:28 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:44:42 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:29:37 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> > > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:52:18 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:51:01 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:43:48 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 3:10:13 PM UTC-4, BT George wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:21:51 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
> > > > > > > > These losers make me laugh.
> > > > > > > > They come in here flaming the "conspiracy hobbyists" but if the "hobbyists" don't post for a few days, they cry for them like a baby for its momma.
> > > > > > > > The truth is they NEED posters like Ben Holmes so they have someone to spew their hatred at.
> > > > > > > > Without posters like Ben, there is no purpose in their boring, pathetic lives.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ROFLMAO
> > > > > > > You need us too silly. Else you are going to get waaaaaayyyyyyy bored in your little CT world arguing wid each other just how "innocent" Oz is. If you care less about Benny as a CT than we do as LN's it says something other than just what "bad" people we are.
> > > > > > Sorry, I'm not a CTer. I don't see conspiracies everywhere.
> > > > > > I'm a Warren Commission critic.
> > > > > What a silly thing to be.
> > > > What a silly thing to say.
> > > Really? You profess to be the critic of an investigation conducted almost sixty years ago. Might as well critique the calls made in the 1963 Super Bowl.
> > There was no 1963 Super Bowl. Super Bowl I was played in January of 1967.
> What`s worse is I looked it up and still put the wrong year up. This is from my history at 7:27...
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl

I know Wiki articles aren't always vetted but I did notice one glaring error when they said earlier
Super Bowls were played on Saturdays. The Super Bowl has never been played on a Saturday. I
was pretty certain of that but verified it online. I was surprised that there are a lot of publications
that have been urging the NFL to move the game to Saturdays. Why I don't know. Commissioner
Roger Goodell has said Sunday is a better day for ratings and TV ratings dictate pretty much
everything the NFL does. Each team's share of the annual TV money guarantees them a profit
before they have sold their first ticket. Having an NFL franchise is a license to print money.
There aren't many businesses in which you are guaranteed a profit no matter how badly you
run your company.

[Bud]

I stopped watching football, politics ruined it for me. As soon as I did my hometown Eagles won the Super Bowl. I didn`t watch a minute. Gave up on all sports. Most movies. Can`t even go to Target now.

[Hank Sienzant]

Pete Rozelle said the one decision he most regretted was not postponing the NFL games on Sunday, 11/24/63, the weekend of the assassination. The AFL did postpone their games that week.

For fairness, we should mention the San Diego Chargers crushed the Boston (now New England) Patriots, 51-10 in the AFL championship game. Keith Lincoln ran for over 200 yards and gained over 100 receiving.

Some believe the high-powered Sid Gillman-led Charger offense would have been a formidable challenge to the Bears, who won partly (or greatly) on the fact that Giants’ QB Y.A. Tittle was hobbled for the second half with a knee injury and threw five interceptions. The Bears offense ranked 10th in the 14-team NFL that year, and would have had difficulty matching the Chargers score-for-score.

The Stephen King book about the JFK assassination (titled “11.22.63”) does reference a 1963 Super Bowl.

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

Here Hank shows he's capable of discussion when he's talking about football. But he doesn't do discussion about the JFK assassination. All he knows there is propaganda.

[John Corbett]

I gave up on baseball after the commissioner moved the All Start Game out of Atlanta to protest
Georgia's new voting regulations. I can't remember the last time I saw I movie in a theater. Might
have been Saving Private Ryan. If I want t see it, I wait for it to come to cable. There are some
movies I don't see until 20 years after they were released. I'm with you on Target although since
there are no Target stores in the towns I live near, I hadn't shopped in a Target for a long time
anyway. I'm a Walmart guy. I don't drink light beer so boycotting Bud Light is not a necessity.
I drink mostly Sam Adams but would drink regular Budweiser if that wasn't available. Now I
think my second choice will be PBR. Teaming up with a tranny had to be the dumbest decision
in the history of corporate America. Didn't they understand who their customer base was? Did
they think that would play well with them? They've lost customers I don't think they will ever get
back. The people that appeals to probably don't drink beer anyway. They're the type who like
drinks with paper umbrellas in them. I don't know why corporations think its good business to
wade into politics. It alienates half of the customer base. Michael Jordan once said the reason
he wasn't political was because he wanted to sell Nikes to Democrats and Republicans. Makes
sense.

[John Corbett]

I remember the game well. We had a woman who was a family friend over for dinner that afternoon and was from Chicago. I remember when they reported Tittle had injured his knee,
she yelled out "Hit Tittle low". Those were the days when they didn't treat QBs like China dolls.
That was the third consecutive NFL championship game the Giants had lost and put coach
Allie Sherman on the hot seat. He never got back to another championship game and lost his job a few years later.

Extra credit if you can say what the Y. A. in Tittle's name stood for without looking it up. If you
know, you'll understand why they called him Y.A.

[Bud]

That`s the thing, beer is pretty much beer, it is easy enough to switch to another. I haven`t had a beer in twenty years, but it is like coffee. I generally drink Maxwell House, but if they did something stupid, I`d have no problem switching to Folgers or some other brand.

> Teaming up with a tranny had to be the dumbest decision
> in the history of corporate America. Didn't they understand who their customer base was?

It used to be the marketing department would take the pulse of their customers before deciding who to associate with. They would get a sample group, show them a picture of, say, Richard Petty and ask them to rate him. If they did that with Mulvaney they would have gotten "Who, or what the fuck is that?".

But now these companies think it is their duty to broaden the horizons of their customers, like they own them. The silly woman that put them on this course didn`t like the customer base, felt they were crude and unenlightened, they liked inappropriate humor. If your customer base likes inappropriate humor, start putting fart jokes on the cans, not trans creatures.

And it seems Bud Light is doubling down, they are promoting gay pride parades now. Good luck being the "gay" beer, see if they will support your brand.

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

Bud can't tell one beer from another. Bud can't tell one coffee from another. Bud can't discern anything. Bud is a stupid mother fucker, but at least he knows that he hates fags and Democrats.

[Charles Schuyler]

You act as if it's wrong to hate fags and Democrats.

[Bud]

How can you tell if a Democrat is gay?

[Charles Schuyler]

They're still breathing?

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

I merely typed a few words. You're wackier than a conspiracy kook.

[John Corbett]

Well, I used to be a Democrat, later a Reagan Democrat, later a Republican, and now an indepenent.
Back in the 1970s when I was a Democrat, I don't recall having any such tendencies.

Some Democrats are wondering what would happen if Joe changes his mind about running in
2024, or more likely, has somebody change his mind. The Democrats still have a deep bench of
potential replacements:

Kamala
Hillary
Michelle
AOC
Gavin
Mayor Pete
Nancy
Chuck U. Schumer
Diane Feinstein
John Fetterman
Rachel Levine
Reverend Al
Cuomo (either one)

I don't think they have anything to worry about.

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

Probably, if you ever did have such tendencies, it would have been back when your dick still worked, when you were a Democrat. So Bud and Chuckie don't have to hate you.

[Bud]

Stole the joke from Norm McDonald about Englishmen at 1:25 here...

https://youtu.be/b6aOy1lC3NE

[Scrum Drum]

On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:43:48 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:

Gil is self-servingly making his flaw look like an asset...


It has been obvious for a long time that he isn't a credible CT-er...

[BT George]

Well my religious beliefs strongly forbid hatred and even command a godly love for them. ...But thankfully they do endorse *strong* dislike and opposition to large swathes of their behavior, positions, and policies.

[Ben Holmes]

On Wed, 24 May 2023 09:05:28 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:

>The Ben Holmes watch continues. Benny, like Oswald, would go somewhere
>else on weekend and then return on Monday and resume being his usual
>obnoxious self. That hasn't happened this week. No sign of Ben. Not that
>I'm losing any sleep over it.

Just can't live without me, can you?

[BT George]

Oh looky folks. He made a recovery from his drug binge!

[John Corbett]

IT'S ALIVE!!!

[Ben Holmes]

On Wed, 24 May 2023 10:21:49 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
<gjjma...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:10:51?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:05:29?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>>> The Ben Holmes watch continues. Benny, like Oswald, would go somewhere
>>> else on weekend and then return on Monday and resume being his usual
>>> obnoxious self. That hasn't happened this week. No sign of Ben. Not that
>>> I'm losing any sleep over it.

>> It wouldn't bother me none if you dropped dead neither.

>
>These losers make me laugh.
>They come in here flaming the "conspiracy hobbyists" but if the "hobbyists" don't post for a few days, they cry for them like a baby for its momma.
>The truth is they NEED posters like Ben Holmes so they have someone to spew their hatred at.
>Without posters like Ben, there is no purpose in their boring, pathetic lives.
>
>ROFLMAO

Indeed true. I discovered early on that if I answered posts all day,
there'd be dozens more posts to answer. Trolls like Chickenshit,
Chuckles, and Corbutt LIVE for my posts.

[Charles Schuyler]

On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 5:43:48 AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
> On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 3:10:13 PM UTC-4, BT George wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:21:51 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:

> > > These losers make me laugh.
> > > They come in here flaming the "conspiracy hobbyists" but if the "hobbyists" don't post for a few days, they cry for them like a baby for its momma.
> > > The truth is they NEED posters like Ben Holmes so they have someone to spew their hatred at.
> > > Without posters like Ben, there is no purpose in their boring, pathetic lives.
> > >
> > > ROFLMAO

> > You need us too silly. Else you are going to get waaaaaayyyyyyy bored in your little CT world arguing wid each other just how "innocent" Oz is. If you care less about Benny as a CT than we do as LN's it says something other than just what "bad" people we are.
> Sorry, I'm not a CTer. I don't see conspiracies everywhere.

> I'm a Warren Commission critic.

Siskel and Ebert didn't like Smokey and the Bandit, Part lll, Gil doesn't like the Warren Commission Report!

Okay, Siskel, NOW WHAT? We're supposed to convince you to like the WCR? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Charles Schuyler]

You do answer posts all day.

[Ben Holmes]

On Tue, 30 May 2023 11:13:55 -0700 (PDT), Charles Schuyler
<ch...@reducedfeemortgage.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 5:43:48?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 3:10:13?PM UTC-4, BT George wrote:

>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:21:51?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
>>>> These losers make me laugh.
>>>> They come in here flaming the "conspiracy hobbyists" but if the "hobbyists" don't post for a few days, they cry for them like a baby for its momma.
>>>> The truth is they NEED posters like Ben Holmes so they have someone to spew their hatred at.
>>>> Without posters like Ben, there is no purpose in their boring, pathetic lives.
>>>>
>>>> ROFLMAO
>>> You need us too silly. Else you are going to get waaaaaayyyyyyy bored in your little CT world arguing wid each other just how "innocent" Oz is. If you care less about Benny as a CT than we do as LN's it says something other than just what "bad" people we are.
>> Sorry, I'm not a CTer. I don't see conspiracies everywhere.
>
>> I'm a Warren Commission critic.
>
>Siskel and Ebert didn't like Smokey and the Bandit, Part lll, Gil doesn't like the Warren Commission Report!

So he's with the vast majority of America. So what?

>Okay, Siskel, NOW WHAT? We're supposed to convince you to like the WCR? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No moron, you're SUPPOSED to defend the lies of the WCR. But you
can't, so you don't.

[Ben Holmes]

On Tue, 30 May 2023 11:14:54 -0700 (PDT), Charles Schuyler
<ch...@reducedfeemortgage.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 12:20:04?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 May 2023 10:21:49 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
>> <gjjma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:10:51?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:05:29?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>>>>> The Ben Holmes watch continues. Benny, like Oswald, would go somewhere
>>>>> else on weekend and then return on Monday and resume being his usual
>>>>> obnoxious self. That hasn't happened this week. No sign of Ben. Not that
>>>>> I'm losing any sleep over it.
>>>> It wouldn't bother me none if you dropped dead neither.
>>>
>>>These losers make me laugh.
>>>They come in here flaming the "conspiracy hobbyists" but if the "hobbyists" don't post for a few days, they cry for them like a baby for its momma.
>>>The truth is they NEED posters like Ben Holmes so they have someone to spew their hatred at.
>>>Without posters like Ben, there is no purpose in their boring, pathetic lives.
>>>
>>>ROFLMAO
>> Indeed true. I discovered early on that if I answered posts all day,
>
>You do answer posts all day.

Actually no. And provably so.

[Charles Schuyler]

What am I "defending" the WCR from? Your claim that on 11/22/63, some people did something?

[Ben Holmes]

On Wed, 24 May 2023 11:06:39 -0700 (PDT), Charles Schuyler
<ch...@reducedfeemortgage.com> wrote:

>You might be surprised to learn...

What is it that you're competent enough to teach, and honest enough
for people to believe?

[Ben Holmes]

On Tue, 30 May 2023 11:37:08 -0700 (PDT), Charles Schuyler
<ch...@reducedfeemortgage.com> wrote:

Their proven lies.

[Ben Holmes]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 03:52:16 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
<gjjma...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:51:01?AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

>> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:43:48?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 3:10:13?PM UTC-4, BT George wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:21:51?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
>>>>> These losers make me laugh.
>>>>> They come in here flaming the "conspiracy hobbyists" but if the "hobbyists" don't post for a few days, they cry for them like a baby for its momma.
>>>>> The truth is they NEED posters like Ben Holmes so they have someone to spew their hatred at.
>>>>> Without posters like Ben, there is no purpose in their boring, pathetic lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROFLMAO
>>>> You need us too silly. Else you are going to get waaaaaayyyyyyy bored in your little CT world arguing wid each other just how "innocent" Oz is. If you care less about Benny as a CT than we do as LN's it says something other than just what "bad" people we are.
>>> Sorry, I'm not a CTer. I don't see conspiracies everywhere.
>>> I'm a Warren Commission critic.

>> What a silly thing to be.
>What a silly thing to say.

Indeed! As most of America would fit in the category of "Warren
Commission Critic."