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Bud

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May 15, 2022, 6:57:50 PM5/15/22
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Anyone familiar with Gil`s style of argumentation knows he will usually throw out an idea or link to something and then scamper when what he presents is scrutinized (another tactic of his is to make statements like "I used the word "evidence" in a sentence, this means I win.")

Anyway, Gil posted a version of the video that can be found in this article.

https://www.military.com/video/specialties-and-personnel/snipers/how-to-end-a-hostage-situation/1712813005001

I suggest hitting fullscreen to view it. Go to the 1:30 mark to see a slowed down version of the shooting. Since the shooter is not seen it isn`t clear where the shot originated from. My best guess, given the way the material flies in that it came from the left. In Gil`s video he claims the guy`s head goes in the same direction as the bullet. Maybe it does and maybe it doesn`t but if the shooter is to the left the top of the victims head does go towards the shooter.

And of course Kennedy`s head *did* go in the direction of the bullet...
https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/9/9f/Anim_essay_BedrockEvidence_Z308-317AnimF.gif

Sky Throne 19efppp

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May 16, 2022, 1:02:48 AM5/16/22
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Your choice of entertainment makes your old pal Corbett look positively civilized lounging as he does on Gilligan's Island. I hear that Trump could blow somebody's brains out on Fifth Avenue and get away with it, whatever direction he shoots from.

Ben Holmes

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May 16, 2022, 9:08:45 AM5/16/22
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On Sun, 15 May 2022 15:57:49 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:

> Anyone familiar with Davey Von Peiny's style of argumentation knows
> he will usually throw out an idea or link to something and then
> scamper when what he presents is scrutinized (another tactic of his is
> to make statements like "I used the word "evidence" in a sentence,
> this means I win.")

Yep.... how true this is.

Christopher Strimbu

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May 16, 2022, 10:05:22 AM5/16/22
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Troll Holmes never addressed the point Bud was trying to make. Instead he edited it and ran like the yellow coward that he is.

Ben Holmes

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May 16, 2022, 11:02:14 AM5/16/22
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On Mon, 16 May 2022 07:05:20 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
<christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 9:08:45 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 May 2022 15:57:49 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone familiar with Davey Von Peiny's style of argumentation knows
>>> he will usually throw out an idea or link to something and then
>>> scamper when what he presents is scrutinized (another tactic of his is
>>> to make statements like "I used the word "evidence" in a sentence,
>>> this means I win.")
>>
>> Yep.... how true this is.
>
>Troll Holmes never addressed the point Bud was trying to make.

You don't address lies, you point 'em out and laugh at them.

Now, put your pink tutu back on, and run to your safe place...

Bud

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May 16, 2022, 1:03:32 PM5/16/22
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On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 6:57:50 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
Looks like neither Gil or Ben have any intention of contesting the points I made in this post. When it comes to engaging on ideas they bring nothing to the table but dishonesty.

Ben Holmes

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May 16, 2022, 1:50:43 PM5/16/22
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On Mon, 16 May 2022 10:03:30 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:

>On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 6:57:50 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

> Looks like neither Gil or Ben have any intention of contesting the
> points I made in this post.

Already did.

Gil Jesus

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May 16, 2022, 2:27:30 PM5/16/22
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On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 6:57:50 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>In Gil`s video he claims the guy`s head goes in the same direction as the bullet. Maybe it does and maybe it doesn`t

So what's your point ?

You don't see the bullet has been fired from in front of him ?
Is there a "jet effect" forcing his head forward in the direction of the shooter ?

Notice that Bud didn't link to my video, which shows the shot in slow motion.
It's clear that the shot comes in from the front and there is no "jet effect" forcing his head forward towards his hostage.

Let the lurkers see for themselves:

https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/jet-effect.mp4



Bud

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May 16, 2022, 2:33:37 PM5/16/22
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You are simply lying, you didn`t touch a point I made.

Gil Jesus

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May 16, 2022, 2:50:57 PM5/16/22
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On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 2:33:37 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

> You are simply lying, you didn`t touch a point I made.

And what did I lie about in the previous post ?
That the shot came from in front ?
Or there was no "jet effect" ?

https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/jet-effect.mp4

Because those were the points I made.

You didn't make any points. You gave an opinion.
"if the shooter is to the left....."
No evidence in support of that opinion, just an opinion.

As usual.

Bud

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May 16, 2022, 2:54:28 PM5/16/22
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On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 2:27:30 PM UTC-4, gjjma...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 6:57:50 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> >In Gil`s video he claims the guy`s head goes in the same direction as the bullet. Maybe it does and maybe it doesn`t
> So what's your point ?
>
> You don't see the bullet has been fired from in front of him ?

What do you base this assumption on?

> Is there a "jet effect" forcing his head forward in the direction of the shooter ?

Why do you think you know where the shooter was?

> Notice that Bud didn't link to my video, which shows the shot in slow motion.

The video embedded in the article I linked to shows the shot in slow motion, at the 1:30 mark, just like I said..

This may link right to the video without the article...

players.brightcove.net/77374810001/HLNhtvNKjM_default/index.html?videoId=1712813005001

> It's clear that the shot comes in from the front

How is that clear?

You merely assume the shot came from the direction it is filmed from.

>and there is no "jet effect" forcing his head forward towards his hostage.
>
> Let the lurkers see for themselves:
>
> https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/jet-effect.mp4

Even if your contention is correct that the shot comes from the front, it only shows that this victim`s head initially went the direction of the shot before his head went in different direction. Kennedy`s head went in the direction of the bullet that struck him from behind before going in a different direction...

https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/9/9f/Anim_essay_BedrockEvidence_Z308-317AnimF.gif

Ben Holmes

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Jun 10, 2022, 10:51:45 AM6/10/22
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On Mon, 16 May 2022 11:33:36 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:

>On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 1:50:43 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 10:03:30 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 6:57:50 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like neither Gil or Ben have any intention of contesting the
>>> points I made in this post.
>> Already did.
>
> You are simply lying, you didn`t touch a point I made.

Fringe restart.

Ben Holmes

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Jun 10, 2022, 10:51:45 AM6/10/22
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On Mon, 16 May 2022 11:54:26 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:

>On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 2:27:30 PM UTC-4, gjjma...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 6:57:50 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>> >In Gil`s video he claims the guy`s head goes in the same direction as the bullet. Maybe it does and maybe it doesn`t
>> So what's your point ?
>>
>> You don't see the bullet has been fired from in front of him ?
>
> What do you base this assumption on?

Science.

>> Is there a "jet effect" forcing his head forward in the direction of the shooter ?
>
> Why do you think you know where the shooter was?

Science.

>> Notice that Bud didn't link to my video, which shows the shot in slow motion.
>>
>> It's clear that the shot comes in from the front
>
> How is that clear?

Science.
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