WHEN DID THEY LEAVE THE BUILDING?
tomnln
WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left the
Building?
"yeuhd" <Needle...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> yeuhd wrote:
> > On Jun 14, 5:09 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:2b08dddb-90ad-417a...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jun 13, 11:58 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:> I`ve heard it said
> >> he was the only person known to have been in
> >>> the TSBD during the shooting that could not be accounted for shortly
> >>> after it.
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> yeuhd wrote;
>
> >> Oswald and one other employee: Charles Givens, who left the building
> >> before the assassination to watch the motorcade.
>
> >> I write;
>
> >> yeuhd's knowledge is Limited;
>
> >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECT
> >> Jack Charles Cason - President of School Book Depositary - left the
> >> building at 12:10 p.m. and went home. (22:640)
>
> >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECT
> >> Charles Givens did not come back.
>
> >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECTS (BOTH JONES AND JUNKER)
> >> Spauldin "Pud" Jones (22:658) eating lunch at Blue Front with Herbert
> >> Junker(another McMillan employee) (22:659)
>
> >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECT
> >> Franklin Kaiser - was absent from work on 11/22.(6:342), (23:751)
>
> >> Jack Charles Cason - President of School Book Depositary - left the
> >> building at 12:10 p.m. and went home. (22:640)
>
> >> Gloria Jean Holt - clerk at TSBD - did not return after shooting.
> >> (19:526)
> >> (22:652)
>
> >> Sharon Simmons Nelson, Secretary, (19:256; 22-665) did not return.
>
> >> Bonnie Richey, Secretary, (22:671) did not return.
>
> >> Carolyn Arnold (22:635) did not return.
>
> >> Mrs. Donald Baker, Clerk, did not return (22:635)
>
> >> Judy Marie Johnson (22:256) did not return.
>
> >> Mrs. Stella Mae Jacob (22:665) did not return.
>
> >> Charles Givens did not come back.
>
> >> Virginia H. Brnum - McGraw-Hill employee does not return (22:636)
>
> >> Vida Lee Whatley, Clerk, does not return.(22:680)
>
> >> Warren Caster (22:641; 26:738) eating lunch in Denton.
>
> >> Spauldin "Pud" Jones (22:658) eating lunch at Blue Front with Herbert
> >> Junker
> >> (another McMillan employee) (22:659)
>
> >> Mrs. Helen Palmer, clerk, (22:666) not present was at Love Field.
>
> >> Franklin Kaiser - was absent from work on 11/22.(6:342), (23:751)
>
> >> Vicki Davis, employee, was absent.
>
> >> Dottie Lovelady, employee, was absent.
>
> >> Mrs. Rudell Parsons, employee, was absent.
>
> >> Joe Bergen, Scott Foresman, absent.
>
> >> Maury Brown, McGraw-Hill, absent.
>
> >> John Langston, absent.
>
> > I talked about TSBD employees who left the building (permanently) in the
> > hour *after* the assassination. You gave me people who were absent from
> > work that day, and people who left the building *before* the
>
> Wrong again. Look at his list of who did not return and tell us which
> had left BEFORE the assassination.
All of them, including Charles Givens. Every single one of them. Oswald
was the *only* person who left the building in the hour after the
assassination.
Here is what I have written in this thread:
June 9, 9:53 pm
Why was Oswald the only TSBD employee to leave the building after the
assassination? Within three minutes, mind you, and without talking to
any of his supervisors.
June 11, 12:11 am
Oswald *was* the only TSBD employee to leave the building after the
assassination, for at least the next hour. (And no, Charles Givens did
not leave the building after the assassination; he was outside
watching the motorcade *before* the assassination.)
June 13, 12:18 am
In the time that you could have typed two words - the name - you
instead typed nine words to avoid the question. You said I was wrong
when I said no other TSBD employee left the building after the
assassination. All right: name any other TSBD employee who left the
building in the hour *after* the assassination. Two words.
June 14, 11:24 pm
I talked about TSBD employees who left the building (permanently) in
the hour *after* the assassination. You gave me people who were absent
from work that day, and people who left the building *before* the
assassination.
Notice that I have consistently asked about any employee who left the
building *after* the assassination? And the only answers I have gotten
were about people who were either absent from work that day, or had
left the building *before* the assassination?
JLeyd...@aol.com
> In case McAdams don't post this one.
>
> WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left the
> Building?
The question is not who left the building but rather who vacated the
building and left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
shots that killed JFK. And who among those who left the building
hurried to home and got a pistol that (according to the WC and the
HSCA) he used to kill a police officer. That same person nextr pulled
his gun on another police officer in the Texas Theater before he was
arrested. The person arrested, of course, was Lee Harvey Oswald, no
one else.
JGL
> left the building *before* the assassination?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
aeffects
> On Jun 15, 10:50�pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > In case McAdams don't post this one.
>
> > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left the
> > Building?
>
> The question is not who left the building but rather who vacated the
> building and left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> shots that killed JFK. And who among those who left the building
> hurried to home and got a pistol that (according to the WC and the
> HSCA) he used to kill a police officer. That same person nextr pulled
> his gun on another police officer in the Texas Theater before he was
> arrested. The person arrested, of course, was Lee Harvey Oswald, no
> one else.
gawd, isn't simplicity the lone nut bane...what's needed is a
reasonable explanation as to: how the rifle got into the TSBD
building? AND new ballistic tests using the 6.5mm MC.
Its pretty clear, during the past 10 years nearly every piece of
evidence the WC unearthed is questioned. A horrible indictment of the
WC and the investigative agencies
muc...@gmail.com
> On Jun 16, 8:01 am, "JLeyden...@aol.com" <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 15, 10:50�pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > In case McAdams don't post this one.
>
> > > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left the
> > > Building?
>
> > The question is not who left the building but rather who vacated the
> > building and left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > shots that killed JFK. And who among those who left the building
> > hurried to home and got a pistol that (according to the WC and the
> > HSCA) he used to kill a police officer. That same person nextr pulled
> > his gun on another police officer in the Texas Theater before he was
> > arrested. The person arrested, of course, was Lee Harvey Oswald, no
> > one else.
>
> gawd, isn't simplicity the lone nut bane...what's needed is a
> reasonable explanation as to: how the rifle got into the TSBD
> building? AND new ballistic tests using the 6.5mm MC.
Your Master's rifle is cocked and loaded. All he needs is a volunteer.
> Its pretty clear, during the past 10 years nearly every piece of
> evidence the WC unearthed is questioned. A horrible indictment of the
> WC and the investigative agencies
Then why don't you put an end to the horror and produce some answers?
No guessing, please.
JLeyd...@aol.com
> gawd, isn't simplicity the lone nut bane...what's needed is a
> reasonable explanation as to: how the rifle got into the TSBD
> building? AND new ballistic tests using the 6.5mm MC.
>
> Its pretty clear, during the past 10 years nearly every piece of
> evidence the WC unearthed is questioned. A horrible indictment of the
> WC and the investigative agencies
>
Come on, Screen-Name Guy. CTs aren't interested in "reasonable
explanations." So, I'll give you an unreasonable one: Someone in the
Conspiracy knew Oswald had a rifle and knew exactly where he kept it.
Then that someone made an undetected entrance into the Paine's garage
and stole the rifle. Then he or she or they carried it to Dallas,
made an unobserved entrance into the TSBD, planted the rifle and then
made a clean get-away. Later, he may even have helped the cops find
it. Sounds so simple & easy, I almost believe it. Maybe I should
become a CT.
JGL
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
David Von Pein
>>> "During the past 10 years nearly every piece of evidence the WC unearthed is questioned." <<<
And every single "question" brought up by the conspiracy-happy kooks
of the world with respect to that WC evidence (which is, of course,
really evidence that was "unearthed" mostly by the DPD and/or FBI, not
the WC itself) has had a satisfactory non-conspiratorial answer.
But conspiracy-thirsty people don't like those non-shady answers, so
they keep looking for conspiracy-filled answers to their questions
instead. And they'll always be able to find a CT-based "answer" too--
in their own minds, that is.
But CTers who "question" the raw LHO-DID-IT evidence in the JFK & JDT
murders couldn't possibly matter less. Because that raw evidence isn't
going anywhere, and it certainly isn't going to suddenly CHANGE into
"conspiracy"-tinged evidence after 45 years, for Pete sake.
My "question" still is this --- When will a CTer come up with a solid
piece of PHYSICAL EVIDENCE to support their kooky conspiratorial
cause? When?
And the 2007 Spiegelman NAA report won't cut it for the CT crowd
either. That report is nothing more than a re-hash (for the most part)
of the earlier Randich/Grant study....and neither NAA study does
anything to prove that any of the 5 bullet specimens examined by
Vincent Guinn in 1978 came from bullets other than those fired from
Lee Oswald's rifle.
Anyone saying that the Spiegelman and/or Grant studies do accomplish
the much-sought-after proof that more than just Oswald's Mannlicher-
Carcano rifle was involved in JFK's murder are merely fooling
themselves into believing such an unsupportable thing.
www.kenrahn.com/JFK/Scientific_topics/NAA/Spiegelman.html
The conspiracy theorists of Planet Earth, like they have been doing
for nearly 45 years now, are forced to believe in extraordinary
scenarios to account for WHY there is nothing but "Oswald Was Here"
evidence in this entire case (including J.D. Tippit's slaying)....with
those CTers creating their own theories from whole cloth, theories
that inexorably lead down the road marked: "The Evidence Has Been
Faked & Planted".
And make no mistake about it -- that particular "Lots Of Evidence Has
Been Faked" belief that many conspiracy theorists swear by IS, indeed,
an "extraordinary" one (not to mention extraordinarily silly, to
boot).
Larry Sturdivan said it very well......
"While one of the pieces of physical evidence could conceivably
have been faked by an expert, there is no possibility that an expert,
or team of super-experts, could have fabricated the perfectly
coordinated whole....with superhuman abilities to fake physical
evidence that is in complete agreement with all the other faked
evidence." -- Larry M. Sturdivan; Page #246 of "The JFK Myths" (c.
2005)
tomnln
What time did he see the other 25 people who were Missing?
If it wasn't AFTER 12:32, they would be More suspect than Oswald.
"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> In case McAdams don't post this one.
>
> WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left the
> Building?
>
>
>
>
>
> "yeuhd" <Needle...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:561a331c-30f5-4f25...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> yeuhd wrote:
>> > On Jun 14, 5:09 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:2b08dddb-90ad-417a...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> >> On Jun 13, 11:58 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:> I`ve heard it
>> >> said he was the only person known to have been in
>> >>> the TSBD during the shooting that could not be accounted for shortly
>> >>> after it.
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
JLeyd...@aol.com
>
> WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left the
> Building?
Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
JGL
tomnln
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 15, 10:50�pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> In case McAdams don't post this one.
>
> WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left the
> Building?
JLeyden wrote;
Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
JGL
I write;
Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
What time did the other 24 Leave?
What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
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JLeyd...@aol.com
> Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom. Guys
like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and you
can't get an answer.
JGL
>
> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 15, 10:50�pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> In case McAdams don't post this one.
>
> > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left the
> > Building?
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> JLeyden wrote;
>
> Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> JGL
>
> I write;
>
> Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tomnln
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
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JLeyden wrote;
That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom. Guys
like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and you
can't get an answer.
JGL
I write;
Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.
It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
AGAIN;
WHEN did the authorities discover the time that the other 25 people left the
building?
(or, did they know "In Advance" they were looking for Oswald?)
If you CAN'T support your own evidence/tyestimony, Your evidence/testimony
is USELESS !
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aeffects
> On Jun 16, 11:52 am, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > gawd, isn't simplicity the lone nut bane...what's needed is a
> > reasonable explanation as to: how the rifle got into the TSBD
> > building? AND new ballistic tests using the 6.5mm MC.
>
> > Its pretty clear, during the past 10 years nearly every piece of
> > evidence the WC unearthed is questioned. A horrible indictment of the
> > WC and the investigative agencies
>
> Come on, Screen-Name Guy. CTs aren't interested in "reasonable
> explanations." So, I'll give you an unreasonable one: Someone in the
> Conspiracy knew Oswald had a rifle and knew exactly where he kept it.
> Then that someone made an undetected entrance into the Paine's garage
> and stole the rifle. Then he or she or they carried it to Dallas,
> made an unobserved entrance into the TSBD, planted the rifle and then
> made a clean get-away. Later, he may even have helped the cops find
> it. Sounds so simple & easy, I almost believe it. Maybe I should
> become a CT.
Oh Jerry, you're so silly... Son, you can't get the rifle in that TSBD
window, you can't get Oswald in that window. There's at least 2 Oswald
impersonators.... It's as simple as that, son...
For the last 15 years you and other Lone Neuters have been blowing
Lone Nut WCR/SBT bullshit... So take a break, live a little -- Get out
of old Virginny for a bit....
aeffects
[...]
>
> My "question" still is this --- When will a CTer come up with a solid
> piece of PHYSICAL EVIDENCE to support their kooky conspiratorial
> cause? When?
>
Son, thats nonsense.... since when does a CT have to prove anything?
We didn't write the WCR.... you've got to make your case, you have to
prove LHO was your man... you've failed, THRICE!
Ya spent the last 40 years bolstering the WCR/SBT/LHO did it all by
his lonesome, failure at every turn, no one believes your nonsense...
Carry on, son.....
JLeyd...@aol.com
> I write;
> Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>
> I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, Tom.
Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
JGL
>
> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b7ba06a6-2dae-475a...@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> JLeyden wrote;
>
> That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom. Guys
> like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and you
> can't get an answer.
>
> JGL
>
> I write;
> Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>
> I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>
> It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
>
> It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.
>
> It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
>
> AGAIN;
> WHEN did the authorities discover the time that the other 25 people left the
> building?
> (or, did they know "In Advance" they were looking for Oswald?)
>
> If you CAN'T support your own evidence/tyestimony, Your evidence/testimony
> is USELESS !
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 15, 10:50�pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> In case McAdams
> > don't post this one.
>
> > > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left the
> > > Building?
>
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > JGL
>
> > I write;
>
> > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Bud
> On Jun 16, 10:48 am, "JLeyden...@aol.com" <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 16, 11:52 am, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > gawd, isn't simplicity the lone nut bane...what's needed is a
> > > reasonable explanation as to: how the rifle got into the TSBD
> > > building? AND new ballistic tests using the 6.5mm MC.
>
> > > Its pretty clear, during the past 10 years nearly every piece of
> > > evidence the WC unearthed is questioned. A horrible indictment of the
> > > WC and the investigative agencies
>
> > Come on, Screen-Name Guy. CTs aren't interested in "reasonable
> > explanations." So, I'll give you an unreasonable one: Someone in the
> > Conspiracy knew Oswald had a rifle and knew exactly where he kept it.
> > Then that someone made an undetected entrance into the Paine's garage
> > and stole the rifle. Then he or she or they carried it to Dallas,
> > made an unobserved entrance into the TSBD, planted the rifle and then
> > made a clean get-away. Later, he may even have helped the cops find
> > it. Sounds so simple & easy, I almost believe it. Maybe I should
> > become a CT.
>
> Oh Jerry, you're so silly... Son, you can't get the rifle in that TSBD
> window, you can't get Oswald in that window. There's at least 2 Oswald
> impersonators.... It's as simple as that, son...
<snicker> Affliction has become a caricature of the conspiracy
kook... "I`ll believe all the stupid shit I want, and you cant stop
me, nyah-nyah. And I not gonna eat my carrots, either" Carry on, son.
Bud
> On Jun 16, 9:39 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>
>
> > My "question" still is this --- When will a CTer come up with a solid
> > piece of PHYSICAL EVIDENCE to support their kooky conspiratorial
> > cause? When?
>
> Son, thats nonsense.... since when does a CT have to prove anything?
Since when can they?
> We didn't write the WCR....
Well, you have to admit the WC was handicapped, having only one
Oswald to work with when kooks can imagine as many as they like.
> you've got to make your case, you have to
> prove LHO was your man... you've failed, THRICE!
A flood is rapidly overtaking a woman on the roof of her house. She
prays to God to save her. Soon, a boat arrives, but she declines to
get in, insisting that God will keep her from harm. Next, a helicopter
comes, but she declines this rescue, opting instead to trust in the
Lord. Finally, the flood overtakes her and she drowns. Standing before
God, she says "Lord, I prayed, why did you fail me". God says "You
stupid bitch, I sent you a boat and a helicopter"!".
> Ya spent the last 40 years bolstering the WCR/SBT/LHO did it all by
> his lonesome, failure at every turn, no one believes your nonsense...
You kooks need to get to work on a book to counter Bugliosi`s. At
present it commands the field.
> Carry on, son.....
tomnln
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> I write;
> Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>
> I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
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JLeyden wrote;
Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, Tom.
Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
JGL
I write;
Thanks for Proving my point.
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
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aeffects
> On Jun 19, 3:50 pm, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 16, 9:39 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > [...]
>
> > > My "question" still is this --- When will a CTer come up with a solid
> > > piece of PHYSICAL EVIDENCE to support their kooky conspiratorial
> > > cause? When?
>
> > Son, thats nonsense.... since when does a CT have to prove anything?
>
> Since when can they?
>
> > We didn't write the WCR....
>
> Well, you have to admit the WC was handicapped, having only one
> Oswald to work with when kooks can imagine as many as they like.
necessity, the mother of invention.... wake up fool -- da KOOKS seem
to be da Nutter's
> > you've got to make your case, you have to
> > prove LHO was your man... you've failed, THRICE!
>
> A flood is rapidly overtaking a woman on the roof of her house. She
> prays to God to save her. Soon, a boat arrives, but she declines to
> get in, insisting that God will keep her from harm. Next, a helicopter
> comes, but she declines this rescue, opting instead to trust in the
> Lord. Finally, the flood overtakes her and she drowns. Standing before
> God, she says "Lord, I prayed, why did you fail me". God says "You
> stupid bitch, I sent you a boat and a helicopter"!".
>
> > Ya spent the last 40 years bolstering the WCR/SBT/LHO did it all by
> > his lonesome, failure at every turn, no one believes your nonsense...
>
> You kooks need to get to work on a book to counter Bugliosi`s. At
> present it commands the field.
son, the WCR failed.... Buglisoi didn't ring the bell! You Lone
Neuters were left holding the Viagra, AGAIN!
> > Carry on, son.....
Ben Holmes
JLeyd...@aol.com says...
>
>On Jun 19, 12:30=C2=A0pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
>That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom. Guys
>like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and you
>can't get an answer.
>
>JGL
I have 45 of 'em... anytime you're ready...
>> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 15, 10:50=EF=BF=BDpm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> In case Mc=
>Adams don't post this one.
>>
>> > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left the
>> > Building?
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
>--=C2=AD-------------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------=C2=AD--------
>> JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
>> building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
>> shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? =C2=A0Only one:
>> Oswald. =C2=A0As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>>
>> JGL
>>
>> I write;
>>
>> Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
>--=C2=AD-------------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------=C2=AD-------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:561a331c-30f5-4f25...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com..=
>.
>> > On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > yeuhd wrote:
>> > > > On Jun 14, 5:09 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > > >> "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > >>news:2b08dddb-90ad-417a...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.=
>com...
>> > > >> On Jun 13, 11:58 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:> I`ve heard it
>> > > >> said
>> > > >> he was the only person known to have been in
>> > > >>> the TSBD during the shooting that could not be accounted for shor=
>tly
>> > > >>> after it.
>> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------=
>---------
>> > > >> =EF=BF=BD---------------------------------------------------------=
>----------
>> > > >> yeuhd wrote;
>>
>> > > >> Oswald and one other employee: Charles Givens, who left the buildi=
>ng
>> > > >> before the assassination to watch the motorcade.
>>
>> > > >> I write;
>>
>> > > >> yeuhd's knowledge is Limited;
>>
>> > > >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECT
>> > > >> Jack Charles Cason - President of School Book Depositary - left th=
>e
>> > > >> building at 12:10 p.m. and went home. (22:640)
>>
>> > > >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECT
>> > > >> Charles Givens did not come back.
>>
>> > > >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECTS (BOTH JONES AND JUNKER)
>> > > >> Spauldin "Pud" Jones (22:658) eating lunch at Blue Front with Herb=
>ert
>> > > >> Junker(another McMillan employee) (22:659)
>>
>> > > >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECT
>> > > >> Franklin Kaiser - was absent from work on 11/22.(6:342), (23:751)
>>
>> > > >> Jack Charles Cason - President of School Book Depositary - left th=
>e
>> > > >> building at 12:10 p.m. and went home. (22:640)
>>
>> > > >> Gloria Jean Holt - clerk at TSBD - did not return after shooting.
>> > > >> (19:526)
>> > > >> (22:652)
>>
>> > > >> Sharon Simmons Nelson, Secretary, (19:256; 22-665) did not return.
>>
>> > > >> Bonnie Richey, Secretary, (22:671) did not return.
>>
>> > > >> Carolyn Arnold (22:635) did not return.
>>
>> > > >> Mrs. Donald Baker, Clerk, did not return (22:635)
>>
>> > > >> Judy Marie Johnson (22:256) did not return.
>>
>> > > >> Mrs. Stella Mae Jacob (22:665) did not return.
>>
>> > > >> Charles Givens did not come back.
>>
>> > > >> Virginia H. Brnum - McGraw-Hill employee does not return (22:636)
>>
>> > > >> Vida Lee Whatley, Clerk, does not return.(22:680)
>>
>> > > >> Warren Caster (22:641; 26:738) eating lunch in Denton.
>>
>> > > >> Spauldin "Pud" Jones (22:658) eating lunch at Blue Front with Herb=
>ert
>> > > >> Junker
>> > > >> (another McMillan employee) (22:659)
>>
>> > > >> Mrs. Helen Palmer, clerk, (22:666) not present was at Love Field.
>>
>> > > >> Franklin Kaiser - was absent from work on 11/22.(6:342), (23:751)
>>
>> > > >> Vicki Davis, employee, was absent.
>>
>> > > >> Dottie Lovelady, employee, was absent.
>>
>> > > >> Mrs. Rudell Parsons, employee, was absent.
>>
>> > > >> Joe Bergen, Scott Foresman, absent.
>>
>> > > >> Maury Brown, McGraw-Hill, absent.
>>
>> > > >> John Langston, absent.
>>
>> > > > I talked about TSBD employees who left the building (permanently) i=
Ben Holmes
JLeyd...@aol.com says...
>
>On Jun 19, 3:06=C2=A0pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> I write;
>> Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>
>Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, Tom.
>Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>
>JGL
I'll make you an offer...
Ask me any JFK related question, and I'll answer it.
Then I'll ask *YOU* a JFK related question, and you can answer it.
We'll trade that way for as many questions as you have the courage to answer.
Of course, it's an offer that *no* LNT'er could afford to accept...
<snipped>
Bud
> In article <b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f-8347-954c8f987...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
> JLeyden...@aol.com says...
>
>
>
> >On Jun 19, 3:06=C2=A0pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> I write;
> >> Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>
> >> I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>
> >Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, Tom.
> >Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>
> >JGL
>
> I'll make you an offer...
>
> Ask me any JFK related question, and I'll answer it.
>
> Then I'll ask *YOU* a JFK related question, and you can answer it.
>
> We'll trade that way for as many questions as you have the courage to answer.
>
> Of course, it's an offer that *no* LNT'er could afford to accept...
Hell, I`ll play. My first question is "Ben, are you retarded?"
> <snipped>
JLeyd...@aol.com
Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you seem to have
a problem with reading comprehension. The only rifle found in the
TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon (C2766) that had been
purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). The bullets that
killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively to this
weapon. Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffects and Ben
who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
JGL
> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > I write;
> > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>
> > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>
> =========================================================================================
> JLeyden wrote;
>
> Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, Tom.
> Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>
> JGL
>
> I write;
>
> Thanks for Proving my point.
>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> ========================================================================================
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > > JGL
>
> > > I write;
>
> > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
muc...@gmail.com
> In article <b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f-8347-954c8f987...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> >On Jun 19, 3:06=C2=A0pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> I write;
> >> Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>
> >> I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>
> >Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, Tom.
> >Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>
> >JGL
>
> I'll make you an offer...
>
> Ask me any JFK related question, and I'll answer it.
You have been implying that the presence of a *Lady in Yellow Pants*
in one film (Nix) and not the other (Zapruder) proves that one or both
have been altered. Considering that your theory was soundly rejected
by Tim Brennan and others, would you care to admit that you were
wrong?
Ben Holmes
JLeyd...@aol.com says...
>
>On Jun 19, 10:42=C2=A0pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you seem to have
>a problem with reading comprehension. The only rifle found in the
>TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon (C2766) that had been
>purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). The bullets that
>killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively to this
>weapon. Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffects and Ben
>who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
>
>JGL
I don't think very many people missed the fact that the one who's "slow on the
uptake" is you.
You've avoided responding to my offer - which is understandable of course.
>> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > I write;
>> > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>>
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, Tom.
>> Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>>
>> JGL
>>
>> I write;
>>
>> Thanks for Proving my point.
>>
>> http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>>
>>
>> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:b7ba06a6-2dae-475a...@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> > On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------=
>---=C2=AD=C2=AD-------------------------------------------------------------=
>------
>> > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom. Guys
>> > like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and you
>> > can't get an answer.
>>
>> > JGL
>>
>> > I write;
>> > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>>
>> >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>>
>> > It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
>>
>> > It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.
>>
>> > It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
>>
>> > AGAIN;
>> > WHEN did the authorities discover the time that the other 25 people left=
>
>> > the
>> > building?
>> > (or, did they know "In Advance" they were looking for Oswald?)
>>
>> > If you CAN'T support your own evidence/tyestimony, Your evidence/testimo=
>ny
>> > is USELESS !
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------=
>---=C2=AD=C2=AD-------------------------------------------------------------=
>---
>>
>> > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com.=
>..
>> > > On Jun 15, 10:50=EF=BF=BDpm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> In case=
> McAdams
>> > > don't post this one.
>>
>> > > > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left th=
>e
>> > > > Building?
>>
>> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
>-----=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-----------------------------------------------------=
>--------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD--------
>> > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
>> > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
>> > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
>> > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>>
>> > > JGL
>>
>> > > I write;
>>
>> > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
>-----=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-----------------------------------------------------=
>--------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-------------
>>
>> > > > "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > >news:561a331c-30f5-4f25...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.co=
>m...
>> > > > On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote:=
>
>>
>> > > > > yeuhd wrote:
>> > > > > > On Jun 14, 5:09 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > > > > >> "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > >>news:2b08dddb-90ad-417a...@i76g2000hsf.googlegrou=
>ps.com...
>> > > > > >> On Jun 13, 11:58 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:> I`ve heard=
>
>> > > > > >> it
>> > > > > >> said
>> > > > > >> he was the only person known to have been in
>> > > > > >>> the TSBD during the shooting that could not be accounted for
>> > > > > >>> shortly
>> > > > > >>> after it.
>> > > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------=
>------------
>> > > > > >> =EF=BF=BD------------------------------------------------------=
>-------------
>> > > > > >> yeuhd wrote;
>>
>> > > > > >> Oswald and one other employee: Charles Givens, who left the
>> > > > > >> building
>> > > > > >> before the assassination to watch the motorcade.
>>
>> > > > > >> I write;
>>
>> > > > > >> yeuhd's knowledge is Limited;
>>
>> > > > > >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECT
>> > > > > >> Jack Charles Cason - President of School Book Depositary - left=
>
>> > > > > >> the
>> > > > > >> building at 12:10 p.m. and went home. (22:640)
>>
>> > > > > >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECT
>> > > > > >> Charles Givens did not come back.
>>
>> > > > > >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECTS (BOTH JONES AND JUNKER)
>> > > > > >> Spauldin "Pud" Jones (22:658) eating lunch at Blue Front with
>> > > > > >> Herbert
>> > > > > >> Junker(another McMillan employee) (22:659)
>>
>> > > > > >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECT
>> > > > > >> Franklin Kaiser - was absent from work on 11/22.(6:342), (23:75=
>1)
>>
>> > > > > >> Jack Charles Cason - President of School Book Depositary - left=
>
>> > > > > >> the
>> > > > > >> building at 12:10 p.m. and went home. (22:640)
>>
>> > > > > >> Gloria Jean Holt - clerk at TSBD - did not return after shootin=
>g.
>> > > > > >> (19:526)
>> > > > > >> (22:652)
>>
>> > > > > >> Sharon Simmons Nelson, Secretary, (19:256; 22-665) did not
>> > > > > >> return.
>>
>> > > > > >> Bonnie Richey, Secretary, (22:671) did not return.
>>
>> > > > > >> Carolyn Arnold (22:635) did not return.
>>
>> > > > > >> Mrs. Donald Baker, Clerk, did not return (22:635)
>>
>> > > > > >> Judy Marie Johnson (22:256) did not return.
>>
>> > > > > >> Mrs. Stella Mae Jacob (22:665) did not return.
>>
>> > > > > >> Charles Givens did not come back.
>>
>> > > > > >> Virginia H. Brnum - McGraw-Hill employee does not return (22:63=
>6)
>>
>> > > > > >> Vida Lee Whatley, Clerk, does not return.(22:680)
>>
>> > > > > >> Warren Caster (22:641; 26:738) eating lunch in Denton.
>>
>> > > > > >> Spauldin "Pud" Jones (22:658) eating lunch at Blue Front with
>> > > > > >> Herbert
>> > > > > >> Junker
>> > > > > >> (another McMillan employee) (22:659)
>>
>> > > > > >> Mrs. Helen Palmer, clerk, (22:666) not present was at Love Fiel=
>d.
>>
>> > > > > >> Franklin Kaiser - was absent from work on 11/22.(6:342), (23:75=
>1)
>>
>> > > > > >> Vicki Davis, employee, was absent.
>>
>> > > > > >> Dottie Lovelady, employee, was absent.
>>
>> > > > > >> Mrs. Rudell Parsons, employee, was absent.
>>
>> > > > > >> Joe Bergen, Scott Foresman, absent.
>>
>> > > > > >> Maury Brown, McGraw-Hill, absent.
>>
>> > > > > >> John Langston, absent.
>>
>> > > > > > I talked about TSBD employees who left the building (permanently=
>)
>> > > > > > in
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > hour *after* the assassination. You gave me people who were abse=
>nt
>> > > > > > from
>> > > > > > work that day, and people who left the building *before* the
>>
>> > > > > Wrong again. Look at his list of who did not return and tell us
>> > > > > which
>> > > > > had left BEFORE the assassination.
>>
>> > > > All of them, including Charles Givens. Every single one of them.
>> > > > Oswald
>> > > > was the *only* person who left the building in the hour after the
>> > > > assassination.
>>
>> > > > Here is what I have written in this thread:
>>
>> > > > June 9, 9:53 pm
>> > > > Why was Oswald the only TSBD employee to leave the building after th=
>e
>> > > > assassination? Within three minutes, mind you, and without talking t=
>o
>> > > > any of his supervisors.
>>
>> > > > June 11, 12:11 am
>> > > > Oswald *was* the only TSBD employee to leave the building after the
>> > > > assassination, for at least the next hour. (And no, Charles Givens d=
>id
>> > > > not leave the building after the assassination; he was outside
>> > > > watching the motorcade *before* the assassination.)
>>
>> > > > June 13, 12:18 am
>> > > > In the time that you could have typed two words - the name - you
>> > > > instead typed nine words to avoid the question. You said I was wrong=
>
>> > > > when I said no other TSBD employee left the building after the
>> > > > assassination. All right: name any other TSBD employee who left the
>> > > > building in the hour *after* the assassination. Two words.
>>
>> > > > June 14, 11:24 pm
>> > > > I talked about TSBD employees who left the building (permanently) in=
>
>> > > > the hour *after* the assassination. You gave me people who were abse=
>nt
>> > > > from work that day, and people who left the building *before* the
>> > > > assassination.
>>
>> > > > Notice that I have consistently asked about any employee who left th=
>e
>> > > > building *after* the assassination? And the only answers I have gott=
tomnln
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7499f594-1322-417e...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 19, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you seem to have
a problem with reading comprehension. The only rifle found in the
TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon (C2766) that had been
purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). The bullets that
killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively to this
weapon. Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffects and Ben
who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
JGL
I write;
I'm well aware of the "charges" against Oswald.
Having worked in the media on 11/22/63, I knew about those "charges" before
you did.
My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those "charges".
#1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
#2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
#3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
application?
(that lists who else has access to that Box)
#4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
#5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volume I
pages 463-464)
Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to other
evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
You've already Dodged the question of WHEN did the authorities discover the
other 25 people missing from the TSBD?
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JLeyd...@aol.com
> My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those "charges".
>
> #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
> #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
> #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
> application?
> (that lists who else has access to that Box)
> #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
> #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volume I
> pages 463-464)
>
> Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to other
> evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us with
photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the handgun he
used to kill Tippit. (Why can’t all murderers be this helpful?)
Oswald’s wife testified that she took the photos and analysts
determined she used Oswald’s camera (so much for CIA hanky panky).
The rifle, again per Marina’s testimony, was kept rolled in a blanket
in the Paine’s garage but when police checked after the assassination,
it was missing. Somehow it had been transported to the TSBD. The
Hidell link was established thru ID found in Oswald’s wallet at the
time of his arrest. Of course, I don’t expect you to accept any of
this evidence/testimony, Tom, because if you did the game would be
over and then what would you do with yourself?
JGL
>
> JLeyden wrote;
>
> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > > > JGL
>
> > > > I write;
>
> > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ...
>
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JLeyd...@aol.com says...
>
>On Jun 21, 12:58=C2=A0am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those "charge=
>s".
>>
>> #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
>> #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
>> application?
>> (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volume I
>> pages 463-464)
>>
>> Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to other
>> evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>
>Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us with
>photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the handgun he
>Oswald=E2=80=99s wife testified that she took the photos and analysts
>determined she used Oswald=E2=80=99s camera (so much for CIA hanky panky).
>The rifle, again per Marina=E2=80=99s testimony, was kept rolled in a blank=
>et
>in the Paine=E2=80=99s garage but when police checked after the assassinati=
>on,
>it was missing. Somehow it had been transported to the TSBD. The
>time of his arrest. Of course, I don=E2=80=99t expect you to accept any of
>this evidence/testimony, Tom, because if you did the game would be
>over and then what would you do with yourself?
>
>JGL
Well, I guess everyone can figure out by now that "JGL" can't handle my simple
challenge.
Once again - ask me *ANY* JFK related question - and I'll answer first. Then I
ask *YOU* one JFK related question, and *YOU* answer it.
For every single question you answer of mine, I'll answer one of yours. We'll
continue as long as you can either think up questions, or until you simply
refuse to respond.
But it seems that you're already refusing to respond.
Of course, I knew you would... LNT'ers can't provide non-conspiratorial
explanations for the evidence.
>> JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7499f594-1322-417e...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 19, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you seem to have
>> a problem with reading comprehension. =C2=A0The only rifle found in the
>> TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon =C2=A0(C2766) that had been
>> purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). =C2=A0The bullets th=
>at
>> killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively to this
>> weapon. =C2=A0Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffects and Be=
>n
>> who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
>>
>> JGL
>>
>> I write;
>>
>> I'm well aware of the "charges" against Oswald.
>> Having worked in the media on 11/22/63, I knew about those "charges" befo=
>re
>> you did.
>>
>> My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those "charge=
>s".
>>
>> #1. =C2=A0C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> #2. =C2=A0Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
>> #3. =C2=A0WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
>> application?
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(that lists who else has access =
>to that Box)
>> #4. =C2=A0WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> #5. =C2=A0CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volum=
>e I
>> pages 463-464)
>>
>> Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to other
>> evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> You've already Dodged the question of =C2=A0WHEN did the authorities disc=
>over the
>> other 25 people missing from the TSBD?
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
>--=C2=AD-------------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------=C2=AD----------------
>>
>>
>>
>> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>> > On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > I write;
>> > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>>
>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, Tom.
>> > Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>>
>> > JGL
>>
>> > I write;
>>
>> > Thanks for Proving my point.
>>
>> >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>> > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >news:b7ba06a6-2dae-475a...@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com.=
>..
>> > > On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------=
>------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD---------------------------------------------------=
>----------------
>> > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom. Guys
>> > > like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and you
>> > > can't get an answer.
>>
>> > > JGL
>>
>> > > I write;
>> > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>>
>> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>>
>> > > It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
>>
>> > > It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.
>>
>> > > It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
>>
>> > > AGAIN;
>> > > WHEN did the authorities discover the time that the other 25 people l=
>eft
>> > > the
>> > > building?
>> > > (or, did they know "In Advance" they were looking for Oswald?)
>>
>> > > If you CAN'T support your own evidence/tyestimony, Your
>> > > evidence/testimony
>> > > is USELESS !
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------=
>------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD---------------------------------------------------=
>-------------
>>
>> > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > >news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.c=
>om...
>> > > > On Jun 15, 10:50=EF=BF=BDpm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> In c=
>ase McAdams
>> > > > don't post this one.
>>
>> > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > Building?
>>
>> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-------------------------------------------=
>-----------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD--------
>> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
>> > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
>> > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
>> > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>>
>> > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > I write;
>>
>> > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-------------------------------------------=
>-----------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-------------
>>
>> > > > > "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > >news:561a331c-30f5-4f25...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups=
>.com...
>> > > > > On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wro=
>te:
>>
>> > > > > > yeuhd wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Jun 14, 5:09 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > > > > > >> "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > > >>news:2b08dddb-90ad-417a...@i76g2000hsf.googleg=
>roups.com...
>> > > > > > >> On Jun 13, 11:58 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:> I`ve he=
>ard
>> > > > > > >> it
>> > > > > > >> said
>> > > > > > >> he was the only person known to have been in
>> > > > > > >>> the TSBD during the shooting that could not be accounted fo=
>r
>> > > > > > >>> shortly
>> > > > > > >>> after it.
>> > > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------=
>---------------
>> > > > > > >> =EF=BF=BD---------------------------------------------------=
>----------------
>> > > > > > >> yeuhd wrote;
>>
>> > > > > > >> Oswald and one other employee: Charles Givens, who left the
>> > > > > > >> building
>> > > > > > >> before the assassination to watch the motorcade.
>>
>> > > > > > >> I write;
>>
>> > > > > > >> yeuhd's knowledge is Limited;
>>
>> > > > > > >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECT
>> > > > > > >> Jack Charles Cason - President of School Book Depositary - l=
>eft
>> > > > > > >> the
>> > > > > > >> building at 12:10 p.m. and went home. (22:640)
>>
>> > > > > > >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECT
>> > > > > > >> Charles Givens did not come back.
>>
>> > > > > > >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECTS (BOTH JONES AND JUNKER)
>> > > > > > >> Spauldin "Pud" Jones (22:658) eating lunch at Blue Front wit=
>h
>> > > > > > >> Herbert
>> > > > > > >> Junker(another McMillan employee) (22:659)
>>
>> > > > > > >> FINGERPRINT SUSPECT
>> > > > > > >> Franklin Kaiser - was absent from work on 11/22.(6:342),
>> > > > > > >> (23:751)
>>
>> > > > > > >> Jack Charles Cason - President of School Book Depositary - l=
>eft
>> > > > > > >> the
>> > > > > > >> building at 12:10 p.m. and went home. (22:640)
>>
>> > > > > > >> Gloria Jean Holt - clerk at TSBD - did not return after
>> > > > > > >> shooting.
>> > > > > > >> (19:526)
>> > > > > > >> (22:652)
>>
>> > > > > > >> Sharon Simmons Nelson, Secretary, (19:256; 22-665) did not
>> > > > > > >> return.
>>
>> > > > > > >> Bonnie Richey, Secretary, (22:671) did not return.
>>
>> > > > > > >> Carolyn Arnold (22:635) did not return.
>>
>> > > > > > >> Mrs. Donald Baker, Clerk, did not return (22:635)
>>
>> > > > > > >> Judy Marie Johnson (22:256) did not return.
>>
>> > > > > > >> Mrs. Stella Mae Jacob (22:665) did not return.
>>
>> > > > > > >> Charles Givens did not come back.
>>
>> > > > > > >> Virginia H. Brnum - McGraw-Hill employee does not return
>> > > > > > >> (22:636)
>>
>> > > > > > >> Vida Lee Whatley, Clerk, does not return.(22:680)
>>
>> > > > > > >> Warren Caster (22:641; 26:738) eating lunch in Denton.
>>
>> > > > > > >> Spauldin "Pud" Jones (22:658) eating lunch at Blue Front wit=
>> > > > > assassination? Within three minutes, mind you, and without talkin=
>g
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > any of his supervisors.
>>
>> > > > > June 11, 12:11 am
>> > > > > Oswald *was* the only TSBD employee to leave the building after t=
>he
>> > > > > assassination, for at least the next hour. (And no, Charles Given=
>s
>> > > > > did
>>
>> ...
>>
>> read more =C2=BB- Hide quoted text -
muc...@gmail.com
> In article <e563b611-d5dd-44c6-af5e-76cddd35b...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> JLeyden...@aol.com says...
Why would he (or anyone) be interested in your opinions?
> For every single question you answer of mine, I'll answer one of yours. We'll
> continue as long as you can either think up questions, or until you simply
> refuse to respond.
He accuses you of being a game player, so you challenge him to a
game?!
> But it seems that you're already refusing to respond.
>
> Of course, I knew you would... LNT'ers can't provide non-conspiratorial
> explanations for the evidence.
Bud is right: you are retarded.
> >--=C2=AD-------------------------------------------------------------------=
> >--------=C2=AD----------------
>
> >> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> >> > On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > I write;
> >> > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>
> >> > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>
> >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> >=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >> > JLeyden wrote;
>
> >> > Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, Tom.
> >> > Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>
> >> > JGL
>
> >> > I write;
>
> >> > Thanks for Proving my point.
>
> >> >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> >> >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> >=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> >> > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >> > >news:b7ba06a6-2dae-475a...@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com.=
> >..
> >> > > On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> >> > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> >> > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> >> > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> >> > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------=
> >------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD---------------------------------------------------=
> >----------------
> >> > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> >> > > That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom. Guys
> >> > > like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and you
> >> > > can't get an answer.
>
> >> > > JGL
>
> >> > > I write;
> >> > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>
> >> > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>
> >> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> >> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>
> >> > > It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
>
> >> > > It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.
>
> >> > > It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
>
> >> > > AGAIN;
> >> > > WHEN did the authorities discover the time that the other 25 people l=
> >eft
> >> > > the
> >> > > building?
> >> > > (or, did they know "In Advance" they were looking for Oswald?)
>
> >> > > If you CAN'T support your own evidence/tyestimony, Your
> >> > > evidence/testimony
> >> > > is USELESS !
> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------=
> >------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD---------------------------------------------------=
> >-------------
>
> >> > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >> > > >news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.c=
> >om...
> >> > > > On Jun 15, 10:50=EF=BF=BDpm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> In c=
> >ase McAdams
> >> > > > don't post this one.
>
> >> > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > Building?
>
> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------=
> >--------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-------------------------------------------=
> >-----------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD--------
> >> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> >> > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> >> > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> >> > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> >> > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> >> > > > JGL
>
> >> > > > I write;
>
> >> > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> >> > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> >> > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> >> > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> >> > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> >> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> >> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------=
> >--------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-------------------------------------------=
JLeyd...@aol.com
> Well, I guess everyone can figure out by now that "JGL" can't handle my simple
> challenge.
>
> Once again - ask me *ANY* JFK related question - and I'll answer first. Then I
> ask *YOU* one JFK related question, and *YOU* answer it.
>
> For every single question you answer of mine, I'll answer one of yours. We'll
> continue as long as you can either think up questions, or until you simply
> refuse to respond.
>
> But it seems that you're already refusing to respond.
>
> Of course, I knew you would... LNT'ers can't provide non-conspiratorial
> explanations for the evidence.
>
>
You're sounding a little desperate, Ben -- you know like those guys
who stand on street corners in large cities and harrangue the passers-
by. I try to ignore them too
JGL
> In article <e563b611-d5dd-44c6-af5e-76cddd35b...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> JLeyden...@aol.com says...
> >--=C2=AD------------------------------------------------------------------�-=
> >--------=C2=AD----------------
>
> >> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> >> > On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > I write;
> >> > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>
> >> > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>
> >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3�D=
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3�D=
> >=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >> > JLeyden wrote;
>
> >> > Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, Tom.
> >> > Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>
> >> > JGL
>
> >> > I write;
>
> >> > Thanks for Proving my point.
>
> >> >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> >> >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3�D=
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3�D=
> >=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> >> > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >> > >news:b7ba06a6-2dae-475a...@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com.=
> >..
> >> > > On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> >> > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> >> > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> >> > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> >> > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------=
> >------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD--------------------------------------------------�-=
> >----------------
> >> > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> >> > > That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom. Guys
> >> > > like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and you
> >> > > can't get an answer.
>
> >> > > JGL
>
> >> > > I write;
> >> > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>
> >> > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>
> >> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> >> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>
> >> > > It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
>
> >> > > It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.
>
> >> > > It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
>
> >> > > AGAIN;
> >> > > WHEN did the authorities discover the time that the other 25 people l=
> >eft
> >> > > the
> >> > > building?
> >> > > (or, did they know "In Advance" they were looking for Oswald?)
>
> >> > > If you CAN'T support your own evidence/tyestimony, Your
> >> > > evidence/testimony
> >> > > is USELESS !
> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------=
> >------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD--------------------------------------------------�-=
> >-------------
>
> >> > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >> > > >news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.c=
> >om...
> >> > > > On Jun 15, 10:50=EF=BF=BDpm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> In c=
> >ase McAdams
> >> > > > don't post this one.
>
> >> > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all left
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > Building?
>
> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------=
> >--------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD------------------------------------------�-=
> >-----------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD--------
> >> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> >> > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> >> > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> >> > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> >> > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> >> > > > JGL
>
> >> > > > I write;
>
> >> > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> >> > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> >> > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> >> > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> >> > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> >> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> >> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------=
> >--------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD------------------------------------------�-=
> ...
>
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Ben Holmes
JLeyd...@aol.com says...
>
>On Jun 21, 7:49=EF=BF=BDpm, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, I guess everyone can figure out by now that "JGL" can't handle my
>> simple challenge.
>>
>> Once again - ask me *ANY* JFK related question - and I'll answer first.
>> Then I ask *YOU* one JFK related question, and *YOU* answer it.
>>
>> For every single question you answer of mine, I'll answer one of yours.
>> We'll continue as long as you can either think up questions, or until
>> you simply refuse to respond.
>>
>> But it seems that you're already refusing to respond.
>>
>> Of course, I knew you would... LNT'ers can't provide non-conspiratorial
>> explanations for the evidence.
>>
>>
>You're sounding a little desperate, Ben
Why? I'm only pointing out your cowardice and hypocrisy...
> -- you know like those guys
>who stand on street corners in large cities and harrangue the passers-
>by. I try to ignore them too
>
>JGL
The only one "desperate" here, "JGL," are those who go around accusing others of
refusing to respond to questions - yet are describing themselves rather than the
CT side. (Such an action is frequently referred to as hypocrisy...)
You can't ask a question that CT'ers can't provide an answer for - yet the
reverse is painfully obvious.
So "desperate" have the LNT'ers become, that they needed to create a censored
group - where they can't be labeled for their obvious cowardice and dishonesty.
It's not an accident that the only non-censored forum dedicated to JFK
assassination issues is a conspiracy forum...
But you go ahead "JGL" and continue to run away from the evidence... you simply
won't be convincing anyone lurking around....
>> In article <e563b611-d5dd-44c6-af5e-76cddd35b...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups=
>.com>,
>> JLeyden...@aol.com says...
>>
>>
>> >On Jun 21, 12:58=3DC2=3DA0am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those "cha=
>rge=3D
>> >s".
>>
>> >> #1. =EF=BF=BDC2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> >> #2. =EF=BF=BDWas Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O B=
>ox?
>> >> #3. =EF=BF=BDWHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box ren=
>tal
>> >> application?
>> >> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD(that lists=
> who else has access to that Box)
>> >> #4. =EF=BF=BDWHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> >> #5. =EF=BF=BDCE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA=
> Volume I
>> >> pages 463-464)
>>
>> >> Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to other
>> >> evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> >Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us with
>> >photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the handgun he
>> >used to kill Tippit. =EF=BF=BD(Why can=3DE2=3D80=3D99t all murderers be =
>this helpful?)
>> >Oswald=3DE2=3D80=3D99s wife testified that she took the photos and analy=
>sts
>> >determined she used Oswald=3DE2=3D80=3D99s camera (so much for CIA hanky=
> panky).
>> >The rifle, again per Marina=3DE2=3D80=3D99s testimony, was kept rolled i=
>n a blank=3D
>> >et
>> >in the Paine=3DE2=3D80=3D99s garage but when police checked after the as=
>sassinati=3D
>> >on,
>> >it was missing. =EF=BF=BDSomehow it had been transported to the TSBD. =
>=EF=BF=BDThe
>> >Hidell link was established thru ID found in Oswald=3DE2=3D80=3D99s wall=
>et at the
>> >time of his arrest. =EF=BF=BDOf course, I don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t expect you=
> to accept any of
>> >this evidence/testimony, Tom, because if you did the game would be
>> >over and then what would you do with yourself?
>>
>> >JGL
>>
>> Well, I guess everyone can figure out by now that "JGL" can't handle my s=
>imple
>> challenge.
>>
>> Once again - ask me *ANY* JFK related question - and I'll answer first. =
>=EF=BF=BDThen I
>> ask *YOU* one JFK related question, and *YOU* answer it.
>>
>> For every single question you answer of mine, I'll answer one of yours. =
>=EF=BF=BDWe'll
>> continue as long as you can either think up questions, or until you simpl=
>y
>> refuse to respond.
>>
>> But it seems that you're already refusing to respond.
>>
>> Of course, I knew you would... LNT'ers can't provide non-conspiratorial
>> explanations for the evidence.
>>
>>
>>
>> >> JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:7499f594-1322-417e...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com..=
>.
>> >> On Jun 19, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you seem to have
>> >> a problem with reading comprehension. =3DC2=3DA0The only rifle found i=
>n the
>> >> TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon =3DC2=3DA0(C2766) that h=
>ad been
>> >> purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). =3DC2=3DA0The bul=
>lets th=3D
>> >at
>> >> killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively to this
>> >> weapon. =3DC2=3DA0Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffects=
> and Be=3D
>> >n
>> >> who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
>>
>> >> JGL
>>
>> >> I write;
>>
>> >> I'm well aware of the "charges" against Oswald.
>> >> Having worked in the media on 11/22/63, I knew about those "charges" b=
>efo=3D
>> >re
>> >> you did.
>>
>> >> My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those "cha=
>rge=3D
>> >s".
>>
>> >> #1. =3DC2=3DA0C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book=
>)
>> >> #2. =3DC2=3DA0Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O =
>Box?
>> >> #3. =3DC2=3DA0WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box re=
>ntal
>> >> application?
>> >> =3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0(that=
> lists who else has access =3D
>> >to that Box)
>> >> #4. =3DC2=3DA0WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> >> #5. =3DC2=3DA0CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSC=
>A Volum=3D
>> >e I
>> >> pages 463-464)
>>
>> >> Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to other
>> >> evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> >> You've already Dodged the question of =3DC2=3DA0WHEN did the authoriti=
>es disc=3D
>> >over the
>> >> other 25 people missing from the TSBD?
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
>---=3D
>> >--=3DC2=3DAD------------------------------------------------------------=
>------=EF=BF=BD-=3D
>> >--------=3DC2=3DAD----------------
>>
>> >> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com=
>...
>> >> > On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > I write;
>> >> > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> >> > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>>
>> >> > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >> > Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, Tom.
>> >> > Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>>
>> >> > JGL
>>
>> >> > I write;
>>
>> >> > Thanks for Proving my point.
>>
>> >> >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> >> >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>>
>> >> > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> > >news:b7ba06a6-2dae-475a...@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.c=
>om.=3D
>> >..
>> >> > > On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> >> > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> >> > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> >> > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> >> > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------=
>---=3D
>> >------=3DC2=3DAD=3DC2=3DAD=3DC2=3DAD------------------------------------=
>--------------=EF=BF=BD-=3D
>> >----------------
>> >> > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >> > > That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom. Guys
>> >> > > like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and you
>> >> > > can't get an answer.
>>
>> >> > > JGL
>>
>> >> > > I write;
>> >> > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> >> > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>>
>> >> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> >> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>>
>> >> > > It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
>>
>> >> > > It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.
>>
>> >> > > It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
>>
>> >> > > AGAIN;
>> >> > > WHEN did the authorities discover the time that the other 25 peopl=
>e l=3D
>> >eft
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > building?
>> >> > > (or, did they know "In Advance" they were looking for Oswald?)
>>
>> >> > > If you CAN'T support your own evidence/tyestimony, Your
>> >> > > evidence/testimony
>> >> > > is USELESS !
>> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------=
>---=3D
>> >------=3DC2=3DAD=3DC2=3DAD=3DC2=3DAD------------------------------------=
>--------------=EF=BF=BD-=3D
>> >-------------
>>
>> >> > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> > > >news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroup=
>s.c=3D
>> >om...
>> >> > > > On Jun 15, 10:50=3DEF=3DBF=3DBDpm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wro=
>te:> In c=3D
>> >ase McAdams
>> >> > > > don't post this one.
>>
>> >> > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all l=
>eft
>> >> > > > > the
>> >> > > > > Building?
>>
>> >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------=
>---=3D
>> >--------=3DC2=3DAD=3DC2=3DAD=3DC2=3DAD=3DC2=3DAD------------------------=
>------------------=EF=BF=BD-=3D
>> >-----------------------------=3DC2=3DAD-=3DC2=3DAD-=3DC2=3DAD-=3DC2=3DAD=
>--------
>> >> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >> > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving t=
>he
>> >> > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to th=
>e
>> >> > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
>> >> > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>>
>> >> > > > JGL
>>
>> >> > > > I write;
>>
>> >> > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> >> > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> >> > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> >> > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> >> > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> >> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> >> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------=
>---=3D
>> >--------=3DC2=3DAD=3DC2=3DAD=3DC2=3DAD=3DC2=3DAD------------------------=
>------------------=EF=BF=BD-=3D
>> >-----------------------------=3DC2=3DAD-=3DC2=3DAD-=3DC2=3DAD-=3DC2=3DAD=
>-------------
>>
>> >> > > > > "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> > > > >news:561a331c-30f5-4f25...@m73g2000hsh.googlegro=
>ups=3D
>> >.com...
>> >> > > > > On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> =
>wro=3D
>> >te:
>>
>> >> > > > > > yeuhd wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > On Jun 14, 5:09 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> > > > > > >> "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> > > > > > >>news:2b08dddb-90ad-417a...@i76g2000hsf.goog=
>leg=3D
>> >roups.com...
>> >> > > > > > >> On Jun 13, 11:58 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:> I`ve=
> he=3D
>> >ard
>> >> > > > > > >> it
>> >> > > > > > >> said
>> >> > > > > > >> he was the only person known to have been in
>> >> > > > > > >>> the TSBD during the shooting that could not be accounted=
> fo=3D
>> >r
>> >> > > > > > >>> shortly
>> >> > > > > > >>> after it.
>> >> > > > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------=
>---=3D
>> >---------------
>> >> > > > > > >> =3DEF=3DBF=3DBD------------------------------------------=
>---------=3D
>> >----------------
>> >> > > > > > >> yeuhd wrote;
>>
>> >> > > > > > >> Oswald and one other employee: Charles Givens, who left t=
tomnln
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:e563b611-d5dd-44c6...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 21, 12:58 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those
> "charges".
>
> #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
> #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
> #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
> application?
> (that lists who else has access to that Box)
> #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
> #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volume I
> pages 463-464)
>
> Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to other
> evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I "KNEW" you would RUN from your own evidence/testimony I listed above.
ps;
Marina was "Threatened" with Deportation.
She would say anything they TOLD her to.
AGAIN;
#1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
#2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
#3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
application?
(that lists who else has access to that Box)
#4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
#5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volume I
pages 463-464)
Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us with
tomnln
You seemed to have Missed these AGAIN>>>
#1. �C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
#2. �Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
#3. �WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
application? (that lists who else has access to that Box)
#4. �WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
#5. �CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volume I
pages 463-464)
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:743e9b18-352c-4b2c...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
JLeyd...@aol.com
Where in the evidence/testimony do you find that Marina was threatened
with deportation?
JGL
> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e563b611-d5dd-44c6...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 21, 12:58 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those
> > "charges".
>
> > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
> > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
> > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
> > application?
> > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
> > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
> > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volume I
> > pages 463-464)
>
> > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to other
> > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > > > > JGL
>
> > > > > I write;
>
> > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tomnln
I would be very happy to give you Volume/Page you as long as you admit
you're not familiar with evidence/testimony.
(YOU SURE DO GO FROM ISSUE TO ISSUE WITHOUT ANSWERING ANY OF THEM)
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
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aeffects
Looks like ole Jer is heading for the hills, AGAIN!
On Jun 22, 8:44 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
> In article <743e9b18-352c-4b2c-96e0-d511c6840...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
aeffects
> On Jun 22, 6:00 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Where in the evidence/testimony do you find that Marina was threatened
> with deportation?
step back Jer, you got some unfinished business earlier in this
thread.
> ...
>
> read more »
JLeyd...@aol.com
> Is this your "Denial" that Marina was threaterned with Deportation???
>
> I would be very happy to give you Volume/Page you as long as you admit
> you're not familiar with evidence/testimony.
Another dodge, Tom. Sounds to me like you've got nothing or you would
have produced it.
JGL.
>
> (YOU SURE DO GO FROM ISSUE TO ISSUE WITHOUT ANSWERING ANY OF THEM)
>
> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3092e4e9-beb9-4963...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 22, 6:00 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Where in the evidence/testimony do you find that Marina was threatened
> with deportation?
>
> JGL
>
>
>
> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:e563b611-d5dd-44c6...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 21, 12:58 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those
> > > "charges".
>
> > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
> > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
> > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
> > > application?
> > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
> > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
> > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volume I
> > > pages 463-464)
>
> > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to other
> > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> > > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > > > > > JGL
>
> > > > > > I write;
>
> > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > > > > > "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > > >news:561a331c-30f5-4f25...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > yeuhd wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 5:09 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > > > > >>news:2b08dddb-90ad-417a...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > > >> On Jun 13, 11:58 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:> I`ve
> > > > > > > > >> heard
> > > > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > > > >> said
> > > > > > > > >> he was the only person known to have been in
> > > > > > > > >>> the TSBD during the shooting that could not be accounted
> > > > > > > > >>> for
> > > > > > > > >>> shortly
> > > > > > > > >>> after it.
> > > > > > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >> �-------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >> yeuhd wrote;
>
> > > > > > > > >> Oswald and one other employee: Charles Givens, who left
>
Walt
> On Jun 21, 12:58 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those "charges".
>
> > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
> > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
> > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
> > application?
> > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
> > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
> > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volume I
> > pages 463-464)
>
> > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to other
> > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>
> Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us with
> photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the handgun he
> used to kill Tippit.
You are ASSUMING...... And you are WRONG!... The rifle in Oswald
hand in CE 133A is NOT the rifle that was found in the TSBD!
The handgun on Oswald's hip in CE 133A appears to be a westren style
six shooter,NOT a snb nose S&W 38.
(Why can’t all murderers be this helpful?)
> Oswald’s wife testified that she took the photos
Wrong again!.... Marina said that she only remembered taking ONE
photo. When the WC lawyer showed her a second similar photo she was
confused and offered as an explaination that she may have snapped the
shutter twice and thereby created two photos. If she had snapped the
shutter twice she would have produced a double exposure NOT two
photos. A decade later a THIRD BY photo surfaced....It strains the
credibility to the breaking point to believe that Marina could have
inadvertantly snapped the shutter THREE times and produced three
separate and distinct photographs ALL of them with IDENTICAL
BACKGROUNDS.
and analysts
> determined she used Oswald’s camera (so much for CIA hanky panky).
> The rifle, again per Marina’s testimony, was kept rolled in a blanket
> in the Paine’s garage but when police checked after the assassination,
> it was missing.
True....up to a point. Marina said she saw a wooden gun butt in
that blanket about a month before the assasination. She didn't know a
shot gun from a BB gun, but she saw a shoulder weapon of some kind
about a month before the assassination.... THAT'S the last time she
saw a rifle in that blanket. That rifle could have been removed
anytime between the end of October and November 22. There is NO PROOF
that it was removed on 11 /22 /63!!
Somehow it had been transported to the TSBD.
WRONG again.... There is NO WAY that you or anybody else can know that
the shoulder weapon that was in the blanket was the same weapon that
was found on the 6th floor of the TSBD.
The
> Hidell link was established thru ID found in Oswald’s wallet at the
> time of his arrest.
Yes the "hidell" identification card magically appeared AFTER the FBI
discovered that the TSBD rifle had been sent to Hidell.
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > > > > JGL
>
> > > > > I write;
>
> > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tomnln
Volume/Page you can find testimony
that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
Not once but, TWICE ! ! !
Let's see what your made of JLeyden???
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
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JLeyd...@aol.com
> You stake your lack of "Credibility" on it and, I'll tell you Exactly what
> Volume/Page you can find testimony
> that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>
> Not once but, TWICE ! ! !
>
> Let's see what your made of JLeyden???
Well, this is the second time you've refused to provide a citation,
Tom. I get the picture. Please don't bother me again with any more of
your schoolyard challenges.
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > > > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > > > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > > > > > > JGL
>
> > > > > > > I write;
>
> > > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JLeyd...@aol.com
About what I would expect from you, Walt: Phony photos, the gun in the
blanket may have been a BB gun, the Hidell ID "magically appeared"
after Oswald's arrest, etc. The WC concluded "that the rifle used to
assassinate President Kennedy and wound Governor Conally was owned and
possessed by Lee Harvey Oswald." Good enough for me but, hey, I know
you and your cohorts can't accept that or it would be the end of the
game. Then what with you do with yourselves?
JGL
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> > > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > > > > > JGL
>
> > > > > > I write;
>
> > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > > > > > "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > > >news:561a331c-30f5-4f25...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > yeuhd wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 5:09 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > > > > >>news:2b08dddb-90ad-417a...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > > >> On Jun 13, 11:58 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:> I`ve heard
> > > > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > > > >> said
> > > > > > > > >> he was the only person known to have been in
> > > > > > > > >>> the TSBD during the shooting that could not be accounted for
> > > > > > > > >>> shortly
> > > > > > > > >>> after it.
>
> ...
>
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Ben Holmes
JLeyd...@aol.com says...
>
>On Jun 23, 2:01=C2=A0pm, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>
>About what I would expect from you, Walt: Phony photos, the gun in the
>blanket may have been a BB gun, the Hidell ID "magically appeared"
>after Oswald's arrest, etc. The WC concluded "that the rifle used to
>assassinate President Kennedy and wound Governor Conally was owned and
>possessed by Lee Harvey Oswald." Good enough for me but, hey, I know
>you and your cohorts can't accept that or it would be the end of the
>game. Then what with you do with yourselves?
>
>JGL
If the WCR is good enough for you - and you're unwilling to support it with
reference to the evidence, then why are you here?
>> On 21 Jun, 17:12, "JLeyden...@aol.com" <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 21, 12:58=C2=A0am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those "ch=
>arges".
>>
>> > > #1. =C2=A0C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> > > #2. =C2=A0Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box=
>?
>> > > #3. =C2=A0WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box renta=
>l
>> > > application?
>> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(that lists who else has acc=
>ess to that Box)
>> > > #4. =C2=A0WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> > > #5. =C2=A0CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA V=
>olume I
>> > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to othe=
>r
>> > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> > Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us with
>> > photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the handgun he
>> > used to kill Tippit.
>>
>> You are ASSUMING...... =C2=A0And you are WRONG!... =C2=A0The rifle in Osw=
>ald
>> hand in CE 133A is NOT the rifle that was found in the TSBD!
>>
>> The handgun on Oswald's hip in CE 133A appears to be a westren style
>> six shooter,NOT a snb nose S&W 38.
>>
>> (Why can=E2=80=99t all murderers be this helpful?)
>>
>> > Oswald=E2=80=99s wife testified that she took the photos
>>
>> Wrong again!.... Marina said that she only remembered taking ONE
>> photo. =C2=A0When the WC lawyer showed her a second similar photo she was
>> confused and offered as an explaination that she may have snapped the
>> shutter twice and thereby created two photos. =C2=A0 If she had snapped t=
>he
>> shutter twice she would have produced a double exposure NOT two
>> photos. =C2=A0 A decade later a THIRD BY photo surfaced....It strains the
>> credibility to the breaking point to believe that Marina could have
>> inadvertantly snapped the shutter THREE times and produced three
>> separate and distinct photographs ALL of them with IDENTICAL
>> BACKGROUNDS.
>>
>> and analysts
>>
>> > determined she used Oswald=E2=80=99s camera (so much for CIA hanky pank=
>y).
>> > The rifle, again per Marina=E2=80=99s testimony, was kept rolled in a b=
>lanket
>> > in the Paine=E2=80=99s garage but when police checked after the assassi=
>nation,
>> > it was missing.
>>
>> True....up to a point. =C2=A0 =C2=A0Marina said she saw a wooden gun butt=
> in
>> that blanket about a month before the assasination. =C2=A0She didn't know=
> a
>> shot gun from a BB gun, but she saw a shoulder weapon of some kind
>> about a month before the assassination.... THAT'S the last time she
>> saw a rifle in that blanket. =C2=A0 That rifle could have been removed
>> anytime between the end of October and November 22. =C2=A0There is NO PRO=
>OF
>> that it was removed on 11 /22 /63!!
>>
>> =C2=A0Somehow it had been transported to the TSBD.
>>
>> WRONG again.... There is NO WAY that you or anybody else can know that
>> the shoulder weapon that was in the blanket was the same weapon that
>> was found on the 6th floor of the TSBD.
>>
>> =C2=A0The
>>
>> > Hidell link was established thru ID found in Oswald=E2=80=99s wallet at=
> the
>> > time of his arrest.
>>
>> Yes the "hidell" identification card magically appeared AFTER the FBI
>> discovered that the TSBD rifle had been sent to Hidell.
>>
>> =C2=A0Of course, I don=E2=80=99t expect you to accept any of
>>
>>
>>
>> > this evidence/testimony, Tom, because if you did the game would be
>> > over and then what would you do with yourself?
>>
>> > JGL
>>
>> > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >news:7499f594-1322-417e...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com.=
>..
>> > > On Jun 19, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you seem to hav=
>e
>> > > a problem with reading comprehension. =C2=A0The only rifle found in t=
>he
>> > > TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon =C2=A0(C2766) that had =
>been
>> > > purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). =C2=A0The bullet=
>s that
>> > > killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively to this
>> > > weapon. =C2=A0Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffects an=
>d Ben
>> > > who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
>>
>> > > JGL
>>
>> > > I write;
>>
>> > > I'm well aware of the "charges" against Oswald.
>> > > Having worked in the media on 11/22/63, I knew about those "charges" =
>before
>> > > you did.
>>
>> > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those "ch=
>arges".
>>
>> > > #1. =C2=A0C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> > > #2. =C2=A0Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box=
>?
>> > > #3. =C2=A0WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box renta=
>l
>> > > application?
>> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(that lists who else has acc=
>ess to that Box)
>> > > #4. =C2=A0WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> > > #5. =C2=A0CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA V=
>olume I
>> > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to othe=
>r
>> > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> > > You've already Dodged the question of =C2=A0WHEN did the authorities =
>discover the
>> > > other 25 people missing from the TSBD?
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------=
>------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD---------------------------------------------------=
>----------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD----------------
>>
>> > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > >news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.co=
>m...
>> > > > On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > I write;
>> > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>>
>> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > > Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, Tom.
>> > > > Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>>
>> > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > I write;
>>
>> > > > Thanks for Proving my point.
>>
>> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>> > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > >news:b7ba06a6-2dae-475a...@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.=
>com...
>> > > > > On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------=
>----------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-----------------------------------=
>--------------------------------
>> > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > > > That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom. Guys
>> > > > > like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and you
>> > > > > can't get an answer.
>>
>> > > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > > I write;
>> > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN.
>>
>> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>>
>> > > > > It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
>>
>> > > > > It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.
>>
>> > > > > It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
>>
>> > > > > AGAIN;
>> > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover the time that the other 25 peop=
>le left
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > building?
>> > > > > (or, did they know "In Advance" they were looking for Oswald?)
>>
>> > > > > If you CAN'T support your own evidence/tyestimony, Your
>> > > > > evidence/testimony
>> > > > > is USELESS !
>> > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------=
>----------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-----------------------------------=
>-----------------------------
>>
>> > > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > >news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.googlegrou=
>ps.com...
>> > > > > > On Jun 15, 10:50=EF=BF=BDpm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> =
>In case McAdams
>> > > > > > don't post this one.
>>
>> > > > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they all =
>left
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > Building?
>>
>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------=
>------------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD---------------------------=
>-------------------------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=
>=AD-=C2=AD--------
>> > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving =
>the
>> > > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to t=
>he
>> > > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
>> > > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>>
>> > > > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > > > I write;
>>
>> > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------=
>------------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD---------------------------=
>-------------------------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=
>=AD-=C2=AD-------------
>>
>> > > > > > > "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > > >news:561a331c-30f5-4f25...@m73g2000hsh.googlegr=
>oups.com...
>> > > > > > > On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net>=
> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > yeuhd wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 5:09 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >> "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > > > > >>news:2b08dddb-90ad-417a...@i76g2000hsf.goo=
>glegroups.com...
>> > > > > > > > >> On Jun 13, 11:58 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:> I`v=
>e heard
>> > > > > > > > >> it
>> > > > > > > > >> said
>> > > > > > > > >> he was the only person known to have been in
>> > > > > > > > >>> the TSBD during the shooting that could not be accounte=
>d for
>> > > > > > > > >>> shortly
>> > > > > > > > >>> after it.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> read more =C2=BB- Hide quoted text -
robcap...@netscape.com
> On Jun 19, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
"Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you seem to
have a problem with reading comprehension. The only rifle found in
the TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon (C2766) that had
been purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). The bullets
that killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively to this
weapon. Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffects and Ben
who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves."
What about the rifle found on the roof? It was filmed by Earnest
Charles Mentesana, it had NO sling or scope and it protruded 7-8
inches past the stock. This rifle could NOT be the Mannlicher-
Carcano.
I always ask this but never get a response, PROVE LHO ordered the
rifle found under his name or anyone else's name. Then prove he
received said rifle at his P.O. Box in Dallas. Until you or any other
LNer can do this you have no givens as you state. Bullets being
matched to a rifle, any rifle, without proof they were ever INSIDE
the victims and were ever fired by the accused amount to nothing. In
short, you have NOTHING that shows LHO shot JFK on 11/22/63, so why
not consider other options?
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > > > JGL
>
> > > > I write;
>
> > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
robcap...@netscape.com
> On Jun 21, 12:58 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those "charges".
>
> > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
> > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
> > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
> > application?
> > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
> > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
> > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volume I
> > pages 463-464)
>
> > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to other
> > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>
"Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us with
photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the handgun he
used to kill Tippit. (Why can’t all murderers be this helpful?)"
This is EXACTLY the point, too convenient for me. Why would he take
these pictures and then DENY the shootings? I don't expect an answer
as all LNers run from these kind of questions.
"Oswald’s wife testified that she took the photos and analysts
determined she used Oswald’s camera (so much for CIA hanky panky)."
Many experts with years of experience in photgraphic analysis have
concured that these photos are NOT original. The finding of cutouts
at the police department (that would match the fourth picture in pose
was not found until the mid-70s) offer strong evidence these photos
were faked. Other strong indicators is the line at the top of his
chin, the angle of the sun not matching between his nose and body, and
the fact the weather was NOT sunny on the day Marina claimed she took
them are just some of the anomolies listed by these experts.
"The rifle, again per Marina’s testimony, was kept rolled in a blanket
in the Paine’s garage but when police checked after the assassination,
it was missing. Somehow it had been transported to the TSBD. The
Hidell link was established thru ID found in Oswald’s wallet at the
time of his arrest. Of course, I don’t expect you to accept any of
this evidence/testimony, Tom, because if you did the game would be
over and then what would you do with yourself?"
Marina's testimony would not have been permitted in a court of law, so
if LHO had not been gunned down while in police custody they would
have to come up with other witnesses to cover this. Who else could
testify to these events you listed? IF the Hidell card was in LHO's
wallet at the time of the arrest, why did the DPD NOT mention the
alias until Saturday afternoon once the rifle was allegedly traced to
Klein's?
I know this is NOT a game for me, and I would love for you to present
real proof and evidence to show it was LHO and no one else to give
closure, but for 44 years we have seen this is NOT possible by your
side. So we have to look elsewhere. The scary thing is you LNers
believe a theory that lacks motive, proof and evidence to support it.
Quite strange indeed.
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > > > > JGL
>
> > > > > I write;
>
> > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bud
> In article <1bded611-28db-4917-b6a0-cdcae5f91...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> JLeyden...@aol.com says...
>
>
>
> >On Jun 23, 2:01=C2=A0pm, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>
> >About what I would expect from you, Walt: Phony photos, the gun in the
> >blanket may have been a BB gun, the Hidell ID "magically appeared"
> >after Oswald's arrest, etc. The WC concluded "that the rifle used to
> >assassinate President Kennedy and wound Governor Conally was owned and
> >possessed by Lee Harvey Oswald." Good enough for me but, hey, I know
> >you and your cohorts can't accept that or it would be the end of the
> >game. Then what with you do with yourselves?
>
> >JGL
>
> If the WCR is good enough for you - and you're unwilling to support it with
> reference to the evidence, then why are you here?
It seemed to me that he was ridiculing Tom`s thinking. What other
reason could there be for being here?
> ...
>
> read more »
JLeyd...@aol.com
wrote:
You would think a guy who had so many opinions would want to sign his
real name to them. But Robocop prefers tor hide behind a screen
name. Hard to take someone like that seriously.
JGL
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> > > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > > > > > JGL
>
> > > > > > I write;
>
> > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > > > > > "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > > >news:561a331c-30f5-4f25...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > yeuhd wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 5:09 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > > > > >>news:2b08dddb-90ad-417a...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > > >> On Jun 13, 11:58 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:> I`ve heard
> > > > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > > > >> said
> > > > > > > > >> he was the only person known to have been in
> > > > > > > > >>> the TSBD during the shooting that could not be accounted for
> > > > > > > > >>> shortly
> > > > > > > > >>> after it.
> > > > > > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
tomnln
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:2c758080-e8d4-4a5f...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 23, 3:03 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> You stake your lack of "Credibility" on it and, I'll tell you Exactly what
> Volume/Page you can find testimony
> that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>
> Not once but, TWICE ! ! !
>
> Let's see what your made of JLeyden???
Well, this is the second time you've refused to provide a citation,
Tom. I get the picture. Please don't bother me again with any more of
your schoolyard challenges.
JGL
CHICKENSHIT! ! !
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tomnln
"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:SaZ7k.1154$oY2....@newsfe21.lga...
>
> <JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:2c758080-e8d4-4a5f...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 23, 3:03 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> You stake your lack of "Credibility" on it and, I'll tell you Exactly
>> what
>> Volume/Page you can find testimony
>> that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>>
>> Not once but, TWICE ! ! !
>>
>> Let's see what your made of JLeyden???
JLeyden wrote;
> Well, this is the second time you've refused to provide a citation,
> Tom. I get the picture. Please don't bother me again with any more of
> your schoolyard challenges.
>
> JGL
I write;
I don't HAVE to provide a Citation.
You already AGREED that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
tomnln
JLeyden is STILL Running from these.
aeffects
> On Jun 23, 8:05 pm, "robcap...@netscape.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
> wrote:
>
> You would think a guy who had so many opinions would want to sign his
> real name to them. But Robocop prefers tor hide behind a screen
> name. Hard to take someone like that seriously.
ya think with someone with all your experience would mosey on over to
other responses in this thread (mainly BHolmes) and pose as well as
answer a few question concerning the assassination of JFK and the WCR
and the evidence and the exhibits and the testimony.... but NO Jer
simply hides... Get religion son, you become a CT after all these
years?
> ...
>
> read more »
Ben Holmes
aeffects says...
>
>On Jun 23, 6:31 pm, "JLeyden...@aol.com" <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 23, 8:05 pm, "robcap...@netscape.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> You would think a guy who had so many opinions would want to sign his
>> real name to them. But Robocop prefers tor hide behind a screen
>> name. Hard to take someone like that seriously.
>
>
>ya think with someone with all your experience would mosey on over to
>other responses in this thread (mainly BHolmes) and pose as well as
>answer a few question concerning the assassination of JFK and the WCR
>and the evidence and the exhibits and the testimony.... but NO Jer
>simply hides... Get religion son, you become a CT after all these
>years?
I suspect that "JGL" knows quite well that there are two facts here...
One: I *will* be able to respond to any question he tries to ask...
Two: He *WILL* be unable to provide non-conspiratorial explanations for
questions I raise in return.
The only way to evade these two facts is to duck and run.
Embarrassing, isn't it?
>> JGL
>>
>> seriously.12 pm, "JLeyden...@aol.com" <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Jun 21, 12:58 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those "=
>charges".
>>
>> > > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> > > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
>> > > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
>> > > > application?
>> > > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> > > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> > > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volu=
>me I
>> > > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> > > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to ot=
>her
>> > > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> > "Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us with
>> > photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the handgun he
>> > used to kill Tippit. (Why can=E2=80=99t all murderers be this helpful?=
>)"
>>
>> > This is EXACTLY the point, too convenient for me. Why would he take
>> > these pictures and then DENY the shootings? I don't expect an answer
>> > as all LNers run from these kind of questions.
>>
>> > "Oswald=E2=80=99s wife testified that she took the photos and analysts
>> > determined she used Oswald=E2=80=99s camera (so much for CIA hanky pank=
>y)."
>>
>> > Many experts with years of experience in photgraphic analysis have
>> > concured that these photos are NOT original. The finding of cutouts
>> > at the police department (that would match the fourth picture in pose
>> > was not found until the mid-70s) offer strong evidence these photos
>> > were faked. Other strong indicators is the line at the top of his
>> > chin, the angle of the sun not matching between his nose and body, and
>> > the fact the weather was NOT sunny on the day Marina claimed she took
>> > them are just some of the anomolies listed by these experts.
>>
>> > "The rifle, again per Marina=E2=80=99s testimony, was kept rolled in a =
>blanket
>> > in the Paine=E2=80=99s garage but when police checked after the assassi=
>nation,
>> > it was missing. Somehow it had been transported to the TSBD. The
>> > Hidell link was established thru ID found in Oswald=E2=80=99s wallet at=
> the
>> > time of his arrest. Of course, I don=E2=80=99t expect you to accept an=
>y of
>> > this evidence/testimony, Tom, because if you did the game would be
>> > over and then what would you do with yourself?"
>>
>> > Marina's testimony would not have been permitted in a court of law, so
>> > if LHO had not been gunned down while in police custody they would
>> > have to come up with other witnesses to cover this. Who else could
>> > testify to these events you listed? IF the Hidell card was in LHO's
>> > wallet at the time of the arrest, why did the DPD NOT mention the
>> > alias until Saturday afternoon once the rifle was allegedly traced to
>> > Klein's?
>>
>> > I know this is NOT a game for me, and I would love for you to present
>> > real proof and evidence to show it was LHO and no one else to give
>> > closure, but for 44 years we have seen this is NOT possible by your
>> > side. So we have to look elsewhere. The scary thing is you LNers
>> > believe a theory that lacks motive, proof and evidence to support it.
>> > Quite strange indeed.
>>
>> > > JGL
>>
>> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > >news:7499f594-1322-417e...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.co=
>m...
>> > > > On Jun 19, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you seem to h=
>ave
>> > > > a problem with reading comprehension. The only rifle found in the
>> > > > TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon (C2766) that had bee=
>n
>> > > > purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). The bullets t=
>hat
>> > > > killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively to this
>> > > > weapon. Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffects and B=
>en
>> > > > who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
>>
>> > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > I write;
>>
>> > > > I'm well aware of the "charges" against Oswald.
>> > > > Having worked in the media on 11/22/63, I knew about those "charges=
>" before
>> > > > you did.
>>
>> > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those "=
>charges".
>>
>> > > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> > > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
>> > > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
>> > > > application?
>> > > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> > > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> > > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volu=
>me I
>> > > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> > > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to ot=
>her
>> > > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> > > > You've already Dodged the question of WHEN did the authorities dis=
>cover the
>> > > > other 25 people missing from the TSBD?
>> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-------------------------------------------------=
>------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD----------------
>>
>> > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > >news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.=
>com...
>> > > > > On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > I write;
>> > > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> > > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN=
>.
>>
>> > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D
>> > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > > > Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, To=
>m.
>> > > > > Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>>
>> > > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > > I write;
>>
>> > > > > Thanks for Proving my point.
>>
>> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>> > > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > >news:b7ba06a6-2dae-475a...@w1g2000prd.googlegroup=
>s.com...
>> > > > > > On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> > > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> > > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> > > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> > > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------=
>------------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD---------------------------------=
>----------------------------------
>> > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > > > > That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom. Gu=
>ys
>> > > > > > like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and yo=
>u
>> > > > > > can't get an answer.
>>
>> > > > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > > > I write;
>> > > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> > > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you RUN=
>.
>>
>> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>>
>> > > > > > It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
>>
>> > > > > > It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.
>>
>> > > > > > It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
>>
>> > > > > > AGAIN;
>> > > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover the time that the other 25 pe=
>ople left
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > building?
>> > > > > > (or, did they know "In Advance" they were looking for Oswald?)
>>
>> > > > > > If you CAN'T support your own evidence/tyestimony, Your
>> > > > > > evidence/testimony
>> > > > > > is USELESS !
>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------=
>------------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD---------------------------------=
>-------------------------------
>>
>> > > > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > > >news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.googlegr=
>oups.com...
>> > > > > > > On Jun 15, 10:50=EF=BF=BDpm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:=
>> In case McAdams
>> > > > > > > don't post this one.
>>
>> > > > > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they al=
>l left
>> > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > Building?
>>
>> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-------------------------=
>---------------------------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=
>=C2=AD-=C2=AD--------
>> > > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leavin=
>g the
>> > > > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to=
> the
>> > > > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only on=
>e:
>> > > > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>>
>> > > > > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > > > > I write;
>>
>> > > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> > > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> > > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> > > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> > > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-------------------------=
>---------------------------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=
>=C2=AD-=C2=AD-------------
>>
>> > > > > > > > "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > > > >news:561a331c-30f5-4f25...@m73g2000hsh.google=
>groups.com...
>> > > > > > > > On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.ne=
>t> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > yeuhd wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 5:09 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> read more =C2=BB
>
JLeyd...@aol.com
> I don't HAVE to provide a Citation
Ah, I love that one from a man who claims he deals exclusively in
evidence/testimony. You know, "I don't gotta show no stinkin'
citations." Isn't that a linefrom a movie?
JGL
> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:SaZ7k.1154$oY2....@newsfe21.lga...
>
> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:2c758080-e8d4-4a5f...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 23, 3:03 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> You stake your lack of "Credibility" on it and, I'll tell you Exactly
> >> what
> >> Volume/Page you can find testimony
> >> that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>
> >> Not once but, TWICE ! ! !
>
> >> Let's see what your made of JLeyden???
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> JLeyden wrote;
>
> > Well, this is the second time you've refused to provide a citation,
> > Tom. I get the picture. Please don't bother me again with any more of
> > your schoolyard challenges.
>
> > JGL
>
> I write;
>
> I don't HAVE to provide a Citation.
>
> You already AGREED that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ben Holmes
JLeyd...@aol.com says...
>
>On Jun 23, 11:20=C2=A0pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> I don't HAVE to provide a Citation
>
>Ah, I love that one from a man who claims he deals exclusively in
>evidence/testimony. You know, "I don't gotta show no stinkin'
>citations." Isn't that a linefrom a movie?
>
>JGL
"JGL" is running... how funny!
>> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:SaZ7k.1154$oY2....@newsfe21.lga...
>>
>> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >news:2c758080-e8d4-4a5f...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...=
>
>> > On Jun 23, 3:03 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> You stake your lack of "Credibility" on it and, I'll tell you Exactly
>> >> what
>> >> Volume/Page you can find testimony
>> >> that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>>
>> >> Not once but, TWICE ! ! !
>>
>> >> Let's see what your made of JLeyden???
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------=
>-=C2=AD----------------------------------------------------------------
>> JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > Well, this is the second time you've refused to provide a citation,
>> > Tom. =C2=A0I get the picture. Please don't bother me again with any more=
> of
>> > your schoolyard challenges.
>>
>> > JGL
>>
>> I write;
>>
>> I don't HAVE to provide a Citation.
>>
>> You already AGREED that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------=
>-=C2=AD-------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> \>> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:d6e32d33-f64b-4997...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...=
>
>> >> On Jun 22, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Is this your "Denial" that Marina was threaterned with Deportation???=
>
>>
>> >> > I would be very happy to give you Volume/Page you as long as you admi=
>t
>> >> > you're not familiar with evidence/testimony.
>>
>> >> Another dodge, Tom. Sounds to me like you've got nothing or you would
>> >> have produced it.
>>
>> >> JGL.
>>
>> >> > (YOU SURE DO GO FROM ISSUE TO ISSUE WITHOUT ANSWERING ANY OF THEM)
>>
>> >> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >news:3092e4e9-beb9-4963...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com.=
>..
>> >> > On Jun 22, 6:00 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Where in the evidence/testimony do you find that Marina was threatene=
>d
>> >> > with deportation?
>>
>> >> > JGL
>>
>> >> > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> > >news:e563b611-d5dd-44c6...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.c=
>om...
>> >> > > On Jun 21, 12:58 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those=
>
>> >> > > > "charges".
>>
>> >> > > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> >> > > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
>> >> > > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
>> >> > > > application?
>> >> > > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> >> > > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> >> > > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA
>> >> > > > Volume I
>> >> > > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> >> > > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to
>> >> > > > other
>> >> > > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD--------------------------------------------=
>----------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD---------------
>>
>> >> > > I "KNEW" you would RUN from your own evidence/testimony I listed
>> >> > > above.
>>
>> >> > > ps;
>> >> > > Marina was "Threatened" with Deportation.
>>
>> >> > > She would say anything they TOLD her to.
>>
>> >> > > AGAIN;
>> >> > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> >> > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
>> >> > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
>> >> > > application?
>> >> > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> >> > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> >> > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volum=
>e
>> >> > > I
>> >> > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> >> > > Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us with
>> >> > > photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the handgun =
>he
>> >> > > used to kill Tippit. (Why can=E2=80=99t all murderers be this helpf=
>ul?)
>> >> > > Oswald=E2=80=99s wife testified that she took the photos and analys=
>ts
>> >> > > determined she used Oswald=E2=80=99s camera (so much for CIA hanky =
>panky).
>> >> > > The rifle, again per Marina=E2=80=99s testimony, was kept rolled in=
> a blanket
>> >> > > in the Paine=E2=80=99s garage but when police checked after the
>> >> > > assassination,
>> >> > > it was missing. Somehow it had been transported to the TSBD. The
>> >> > > Hidell link was established thru ID found in Oswald=E2=80=99s walle=
>t at the
>> >> > > time of his arrest. Of course, I don=E2=80=99t expect you to accept=
> any of
>> >> > > this evidence/testimony, Tom, because if you did the game would be
>> >> > > over and then what would you do with yourself?
>>
>> >> > > JGL
>>
>> >> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >> > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> > > >news:7499f594-1322-417e...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.=
>com...
>> >> > > > On Jun 19, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you seem to=
>
>> >> > > > have
>> >> > > > a problem with reading comprehension. The only rifle found in the=
>
>> >> > > > TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon (C2766) that had be=
>en
>> >> > > > purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). The bullets
>> >> > > > that
>> >> > > > killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively to this=
>
>> >> > > > weapon. Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffects and
>> >> > > > Ben
>> >> > > > who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
>>
>> >> > > > JGL
>>
>> >> > > > I write;
>>
>> >> > > > I'm well aware of the "charges" against Oswald.
>> >> > > > Having worked in the media on 11/22/63, I knew about those
>> >> > > > "charges"
>> >> > > > before
>> >> > > > you did.
>>
>> >> > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those=
>
>> >> > > > "charges".
>>
>> >> > > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> >> > > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
>> >> > > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
>> >> > > > application?
>> >> > > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> >> > > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> >> > > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA
>> >> > > > Volume I
>> >> > > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> >> > > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to
>> >> > > > other
>> >> > > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> >> > > > You've already Dodged the question of WHEN did the authorities
>> >> > > > discover
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > other 25 people missing from the TSBD?
>> >> > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------=
>----------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD------------------------------------=
>-----------------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-------=
>---------
>>
>> >> > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> > > > >news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroup=
>s.com...
>> >> > > > > On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > > > I write;
>> >> > > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> >> > > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you
>> >> > > > > > RUN.
>>
>> >> > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> >> > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >> > > > > Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you,
>> >> > > > > Tom.
>> >> > > > > Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>>
>> >> > > > > JGL
>>
>> >> > > > > I write;
>>
>> >> > > > > Thanks for Proving my point.
>>
>> >> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> >> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> >> > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>> >> > > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> > > > > >news:b7ba06a6-2dae-475a...@w1g2000prd.googlegro=
>ups.com...
>> >> > > > > > On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> >> > > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> >> > > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> >> > > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> >> > > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> >> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD--------------------=
>-----------------------------------------------
>> >> > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >> > > > > > That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom.
>> >> > > > > > Guys
>> >> > > > > > like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and
>> >> > > > > > you
>> >> > > > > > can't get an answer.
>>
>> >> > > > > > JGL
>>
>> >> > > > > > I write;
>> >> > > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> >> > > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you
>> >> > > > > > RUN.
>>
>> >> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> >> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>>
>> >> > > > > > It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
>>
>> >> > > > > > It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.
>>
>> >> > > > > > It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
>>
>> >> > > > > > AGAIN;
>> >> > > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover the time that the other 25
>> >> > > > > > people
>> >> > > > > > left
>> >> > > > > > the
>> >> > > > > > building?
>> >> > > > > > (or, did they know "In Advance" they were looking for Oswald?=
>)
>>
>> >> > > > > > If you CAN'T support your own evidence/tyestimony, Your
>> >> > > > > > evidence/testimony
>> >> > > > > > is USELESS !
>> >> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD--------------------=
>--------------------------------------------
>>
>> >> > > > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> > > > > > >news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.google=
>groups.com...
>> >> > > > > > > On Jun 15, 10:50=EF=BF=BDpm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrot=
>e:> In
>> >> > > > > > > case
>> >> > > > > > > McAdams
>> >> > > > > > > don't post this one.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> read more =C2=BB- Hide quoted text -
tomnln
WHY did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina?
"aeffects" <aeffe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:72fa7639-858a-4e82...@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
tomnln
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:14ed8918-9fb9-4939...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
tomnln
"Ben Holmes" <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote in message
news:g3r5l...@drn.newsguy.com...
robcap...@netscape.com
> On Jun 23, 8:05 pm, "robcap...@netscape.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
> wrote:
>
"You would think a guy who had so many opinions would want to sign his
real name to them. But Robocop prefers tor hide behind a screen name.
Hard to take someone like that seriously."
You are pathetic "JGL", no wonder you hide out at aaj most of the
time. On acj we don't allow you to make ridiculous comments and
claims without proof. All you want to do is focus on my name (which
is accurate by the way) instead of addressing the stupid claims you
are making. Typical sad Lner. Go back to aaj and save us all some
time.
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > > > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> > > > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > > > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > > > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > > > > > > JGL
>
> > > > > > > I write;
>
> > > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tomnln
Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate"?
YES? OR, NO?
Had Marina been deported, her daughters June, Rachael would stay in the U S
A as American citizens.
What do you believe any parent would do?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:KJZ7k.7723$rH1...@newsfe20.lga...
JLeyd...@aol.com
wrote:
> You are pathetic "JGL", no wonder you hide out at aaj most of the
> time. On acj we don't allow you to make ridiculous comments and
> claims without proof. All you want to do is focus on my name (which
> is accurate by the way) instead of addressing the stupid claims you
> are making. Typical sad Lner. Go back to aaj and save us all some
> time.
I rather think that anyone who insults others, Robocop. when he's
hiding behind a screen name is the "pathetic" one.
JGL
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>
> > > > > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leaving the
> > > > > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically to the
> > > > > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only one:
> > > > > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>
> > > > > > > > JGL
>
> > > > > > > > I write;
>
> > > > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>
> > > > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>
> > > > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>
> > > > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>
> > > > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>
> > > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> > > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
> > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JLeyd...@aol.com
> Hey JLeyden;
>
> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate"?
>
> YES? OR, NO?
>
> Had Marina been deported, her daughters June, Rachael would stay in the U S
> A as American citizens.
>
> What do you believe any parent would do?
Let's stop this nonsense, Tom. You're sounding very eighth-gradish.
If you have evidence that Marina was threatened with deporation if she
didn't roll over on LHO, just post it. Otherwise find some other
useless topic to pursue.
JGL
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:KJZ7k.7723$rH1...@newsfe20.lga...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:SaZ7k.1154$oY2....@newsfe21.lga...
>
> >> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >>news:2c758080-e8d4-4a5f...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jun 23, 3:03 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> You stake your lack of "Credibility" on it and, I'll tell you Exactly
> >>> what
> >>> Volume/Page you can find testimony
> >>> that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>
> >>> Not once but, TWICE ! ! !
>
> >>> Let's see what your made of JLeyden???
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > JLeyden wrote;
>
> >> Well, this is the second time you've refused to provide a citation,
> >> Tom. I get the picture. Please don't bother me again with any more of
> >> your schoolyard challenges.
>
> >> JGL
>
> > I write;
>
> > I don't HAVE to provide a Citation.
>
> > You already AGREED that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tomnln
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:2a34023f-e344-4a35...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 24, 1:31 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> Hey JLeyden;
>
> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate"?
>
> YES? OR, NO?
>
> Had Marina been deported, her daughters June, Rachael would stay in the U
> S
> A as American citizens.
>
> What do you believe any parent would do?
Let's stop this nonsense, Tom. You're sounding very eighth-gradish.
If you have evidence that Marina was threatened with deporation if she
didn't roll over on LHO, just post it. Otherwise find some other
useless topic to pursue.
JGL
*****************************
There's No NEED to post it until you DENY Marina was threatened with
deportation.
It is YOU who is Playing word games.
It is YOU who RUNS from your own evidence/testimony.
Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate"?
YES? OR, NO?
tomnln
"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message news:...
>
> <JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:2a34023f-e344-4a35...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 24, 1:31 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Hey JLeyden;
>>
>> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate"?
>>
>> YES? OR, NO?
>>
>> Had Marina been deported, her daughters June, Rachael would stay in the U
>> S
>> A as American citizens.
>>
>> What do you believe any parent would do?
>
> Let's stop this nonsense, Tom. You're sounding very eighth-gradish.
> If you have evidence that Marina was threatened with deporation if she
> didn't roll over on LHO, just post it. Otherwise find some other
> useless topic to pursue.
>
> JGL
> *****************************
>
> There's No NEED to post it until you DENY Marina was threatened with
> deportation.
>
> It is YOU who is Playing word games.
>
> It is YOU who RUNS from your own evidence/testimony.
>
> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate"?
>
> YES? OR, NO?
ps;
You also RUN from other topics.
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
Ben Holmes
JLeyd...@aol.com says...
>
>On Jun 24, 12:42=C2=A0pm, "robcap...@netscape.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
>wrote:
>
>> You are pathetic "JGL", no wonder you hide out at aaj most of the
>> time. On acj we don't allow you to make ridiculous comments and
>> claims without proof. All you want to do is focus on my name (which
>> is accurate by the way) instead of addressing the stupid claims you
>> are making. Typical sad Lner. Go back to aaj and save us all some
>> time.
>
>
>I rather think that anyone who insults others, Robocop. when he's
>hiding behind a screen name is the "pathetic" one.
>
>JGL
... says "JLeyden900"
Hypocrisy knows no bounds... nor cowardice, evidently...
>> On Jun 23, 9:31=C2=A0pm, "JLeyden...@aol.com" <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Jun 23, 8:05=C2=A0pm, "robcap...@netscape.com" <robcap...@netscape.c=
>om>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> "You would think a guy who had so many opinions would want to sign his
>> real name to them. =C2=A0But Robocop prefers tor hide behind a screen nam=
>e.
>> =C2=A0Hard to take someone like that seriously."
>>
>> You are pathetic "JGL", no wonder you hide out at aaj most of the
>> time. =C2=A0On acj we don't allow you to make ridiculous comments and
>> claims without proof. =C2=A0All you want to do is focus on my name (which
>> is accurate by the way) instead of addressing the stupid claims you
>> are making. =C2=A0Typical sad Lner. =C2=A0Go back to aaj and save us all =
>some
>> time.
>>
>> > JGL
>>
>> > seriously.12=C2=A0pm, "JLeyden...@aol.com" <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > On Jun 21, 12:58=C2=A0am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those=
> "charges".
>>
>> > > > > #1. =C2=A0C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his boo=
>k)
>> > > > > #2. =C2=A0Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O=
> Box?
>> > > > > #3. =C2=A0WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box r=
>ental
>> > > > > application?
>> > > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(that lists who else has=
> access to that Box)
>> > > > > #4. =C2=A0WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> > > > > #5. =C2=A0CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HS=
>CA Volume I
>> > > > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> > > > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to =
>other
>> > > > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> > > "Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us with
>> > > photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the handgun he
>> > > used to kill Tippit. =C2=A0(Why can=E2=80=99t all murderers be this h=
>elpful?)"
>>
>> > > This is EXACTLY the point, too convenient for me. Why would he take
>> > > these pictures and then DENY the shootings? =C2=A0I don't expect an a=
>nswer
>> > > as all LNers run from these kind of questions.
>>
>> > > "Oswald=E2=80=99s wife testified that she took the photos and analyst=
>s
>> > > determined she used Oswald=E2=80=99s camera (so much for CIA hanky pa=
>nky)."
>>
>> > > Many experts with years of experience in photgraphic analysis have
>> > > concured that these photos are NOT original. =C2=A0The finding of cut=
>outs
>> > > at the police department (that would match the fourth picture in pose
>> > > was not found until the mid-70s) offer strong evidence these photos
>> > > were faked. =C2=A0Other strong indicators is the line at the top of h=
>is
>> > > chin, the angle of the sun not matching between his nose and body, an=
>d
>> > > the fact the weather was NOT sunny on the day Marina claimed she took
>> > > them are just some of the anomolies listed by these experts.
>>
>> > > "The rifle, again per Marina=E2=80=99s testimony, was kept rolled in =
>a blanket
>> > > in the Paine=E2=80=99s garage but when police checked after the assas=
>sination,
>> > > it was missing. =C2=A0Somehow it had been transported to the TSBD. =
>=C2=A0The
>> > > Hidell link was established thru ID found in Oswald=E2=80=99s wallet =
>at the
>> > > time of his arrest. =C2=A0Of course, I don=E2=80=99t expect you to ac=
>cept any of
>> > > this evidence/testimony, Tom, because if you did the game would be
>> > > over and then what would you do with yourself?"
>>
>> > > Marina's testimony would not have been permitted in a court of law, s=
>o
>> > > if LHO had not been gunned down while in police custody they would
>> > > have to come up with other witnesses to cover this. =C2=A0Who else co=
>uld
>> > > testify to these events you listed? IF the Hidell card was in LHO's
>> > > wallet at the time of the arrest, why did the DPD NOT mention the
>> > > alias until Saturday afternoon once the rifle was allegedly traced to
>> > > Klein's?
>>
>> > > I know this is NOT a game for me, and I would love for you to present
>> > > real proof and evidence to show it was LHO and no one else to give
>> > > closure, but for 44 years we have seen this is NOT possible by your
>> > > side. =C2=A0So we have to look elsewhere. =C2=A0The scary thing is yo=
>u LNers
>> > > believe a theory that lacks motive, proof and evidence to support it.
>> > > Quite strange indeed.
>>
>> > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > >news:7499f594-1322-417e...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.=
>com...
>> > > > > On Jun 19, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you seem to=
> have
>> > > > > a problem with reading comprehension. =C2=A0The only rifle found =
>in the
>> > > > > TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon =C2=A0(C2766) that =
>had been
>> > > > > purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). =C2=A0The bu=
>llets that
>> > > > > killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively to this
>> > > > > weapon. =C2=A0Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffect=
>s and Ben
>> > > > > who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
>>
>> > > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > > I write;
>>
>> > > > > I'm well aware of the "charges" against Oswald.
>> > > > > Having worked in the media on 11/22/63, I knew about those "charg=
>es" before
>> > > > > you did.
>>
>> > > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those=
> "charges".
>>
>> > > > > #1. =C2=A0C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his boo=
>k)
>> > > > > #2. =C2=A0Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O=
> Box?
>> > > > > #3. =C2=A0WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box r=
>ental
>> > > > > application?
>> > > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(that lists who else has=
> access to that Box)
>> > > > > #4. =C2=A0WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> > > > > #5. =C2=A0CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HS=
>CA Volume I
>> > > > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> > > > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to =
>other
>> > > > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> > > > > You've already Dodged the question of =C2=A0WHEN did the authorit=
>ies discover the
>> > > > > other 25 people missing from the TSBD?
>> > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------=
>----------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-----------------------------------=
>------------------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-----=
>-----------
>>
>> > > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > >news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroup=
>s.com...
>> > > > > > On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > I write;
>> > > > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> > > > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you R=
>UN.
>>
>> > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > > > > Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you, =
>Tom.
>> > > > > > Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>>
>> > > > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > > > I write;
>>
>> > > > > > Thanks for Proving my point.
>>
>> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>> > > > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > > >news:b7ba06a6-2dae-475a...@w1g2000prd.googlegro=
>ups.com...
>> > > > > > > On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> > > > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> > > > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> > > > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> > > > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-------------------=
>------------------------------------------------
>> > > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > > > > > That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom. =
>Guys
>> > > > > > > like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and =
>you
>> > > > > > > can't get an answer.
>>
>> > > > > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > > > > I write;
>> > > > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> > > > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you R=
>UN.
>>
>> > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>>
>> > > > > > > It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
>>
>> > > > > > > It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.
>>
>> > > > > > > It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
>>
>> > > > > > > AGAIN;
>> > > > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover the time that the other 25 =
>people left
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > building?
>> > > > > > > (or, did they know "In Advance" they were looking for Oswald?=
>)
>>
>> > > > > > > If you CAN'T support your own evidence/tyestimony, Your
>> > > > > > > evidence/testimony
>> > > > > > > is USELESS !
>> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-------------------=
>---------------------------------------------
>>
>> > > > > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > > > >news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.google=
>groups.com...
>> > > > > > > > On Jun 15, 10:50=EF=BF=BDpm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrot=
>e:> In case McAdams
>> > > > > > > > don't post this one.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they =
>all left
>> > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > Building?
>>
>> > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------=
>----------------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-----------=
>---------------------------------------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=
>=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD--------
>> > > > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > > > > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as leav=
>ing the
>> > > > > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically =
>to the
>> > > > > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only =
>one:
>> > > > > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>>
>> > > > > > > > JGL
>>
>> > > > > > > > I write;
>>
>> > > > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> > > > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> > > > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> > > > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> > > > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> > > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------=
>----------------=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD=C2=AD-----------=
>---------------------------------------------------------=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=
>=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-=C2=AD-------------
>>
>> > > > > > > > > "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > > > > >news:561a331c-30f5-4f25...@m73g2000hsh.goog=
>legroups.com...
>> > > > > > > > > On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.=
>net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > yeuhd wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 5:09 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > ...
>>
>> > read more =C2=BB- Hide quoted text -
Ben Holmes
JLeyd...@aol.com says...
>
>On Jun 24, 1:31=A0pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Hey JLeyden;
>>
>> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate"?
>>
>>
>> Had Marina been deported, her daughters June, Rachael would stay in the U =
>S
>> A as American citizens.
>>
>> What do you believe any parent would do?
>
>Let's stop this nonsense, Tom. You're sounding very eighth-gradish.
>If you have evidence that Marina was threatened with deporation if she
>didn't roll over on LHO, just post it. Otherwise find some other
>useless topic to pursue.
>
>JGL
I wonder if you have the honesty to *POST* (direct quotes please) what Marina
said on this topic?
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------=
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>>
>> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:KJZ7k.7723$rH1...@newsfe20.lga...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >news:SaZ7k.1154$oY2....@newsfe21.lga...
>>
>> >> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:2c758080-e8d4-4a5f...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com..=
>.
>> >> On Jun 23, 3:03 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>> You stake your lack of "Credibility" on it and, I'll tell you Exactly
>> >>> what
>> >>> Volume/Page you can find testimony
>> >>> that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>>
>> >>> Not once but, TWICE ! ! !
>>
>> >>> Let's see what your made of JLeyden???
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------=
>---=AD----------------------------------------------------------------
>> > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >> Well, this is the second time you've refused to provide a citation,
>> >> Tom. =A0I get the picture. Please don't bother me again with any more o=
>f
>> >> your schoolyard challenges.
>>
>> >> JGL
>>
>> > I write;
>>
>> > I don't HAVE to provide a Citation.
>>
>> > You already AGREED that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------=
>---=AD-------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> > \>> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>>news:d6e32d33-f64b-4997...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com..=
>.
>> >>> On Jun 22, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> > Is this your "Denial" that Marina was threaterned with Deportation??=
>?
>>
>> >>> > I would be very happy to give you Volume/Page you as long as you adm=
>it
>> >>> > you're not familiar with evidence/testimony.
>>
>> >>> Another dodge, Tom. Sounds to me like you've got nothing or you would
>> >>> have produced it.
>>
>> >>> JGL.
>>
>> >>> > (YOU SURE DO GO FROM ISSUE TO ISSUE WITHOUT ANSWERING ANY OF THEM)
>>
>> >>> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>> >news:3092e4e9-beb9-4963...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com=
>...
>> >>> > On Jun 22, 6:00 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> > Where in the evidence/testimony do you find that Marina was threaten=
>ed
>> >>> > with deportation?
>>
>> >>> > JGL
>>
>> >>> > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>> > >news:e563b611-d5dd-44c6...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.=
>com...
>> >>> > > On Jun 21, 12:58 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support thos=
>e
>> >>> > > > "charges".
>>
>> >>> > > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> >>> > > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?=
>
>> >>> > > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental=
>
>> >>> > > > application?
>> >>> > > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> >>> > > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> >>> > > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA
>> >>> > > > Volume I
>> >>> > > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> >>> > > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to=
>
>> >>> > > > other
>> >>> > > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------=
>---------=AD=AD=AD=AD-------------------------------------------------------=
>-----------------=AD-=AD-=AD-=AD---------------
>>
>> >>> > > I "KNEW" you would RUN from your own evidence/testimony I listed
>> >>> > > above.
>>
>> >>> > > ps;
>> >>> > > Marina was "Threatened" with Deportation.
>>
>> >>> > > She would say anything they TOLD her to.
>>
>> >>> > > AGAIN;
>> >>> > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> >>> > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
>> >>> > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
>> >>> > > application?
>> >>> > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> >>> > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> >>> > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volu=
>me
>> >>> > > I
>> >>> > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> >>> > > Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us with=
>
>> >>> > > photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the handgun=
>
>> >>> > > he
>> >>> > > used to kill Tippit. (Why can=92t all murderers be this helpful?)
>> >>> > > Oswald=92s wife testified that she took the photos and analysts
>> >>> > > determined she used Oswald=92s camera (so much for CIA hanky panky=
>).
>> >>> > > The rifle, again per Marina=92s testimony, was kept rolled in a
>> >>> > > blanket
>> >>> > > in the Paine=92s garage but when police checked after the
>> >>> > > assassination,
>> >>> > > it was missing. Somehow it had been transported to the TSBD. The
>> >>> > > Hidell link was established thru ID found in Oswald=92s wallet at =
>the
>> >>> > > time of his arrest. Of course, I don=92t expect you to accept any =
>of
>> >>> > > this evidence/testimony, Tom, because if you did the game would be=
>
>> >>> > > over and then what would you do with yourself?
>>
>> >>> > > JGL
>>
>> >>> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >>> > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>> > > >news:7499f594-1322-417e...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups=
>.com...
>> >>> > > > On Jun 19, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> > > > Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you seem t=
>o
>> >>> > > > have
>> >>> > > > a problem with reading comprehension. The only rifle found in th=
>e
>> >>> > > > TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon (C2766) that had
>> >>> > > > been
>> >>> > > > purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). The bullets=
>
>> >>> > > > that
>> >>> > > > killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively to thi=
>s
>> >>> > > > weapon. Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffects and=
>
>> >>> > > > Ben
>> >>> > > > who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
>>
>> >>> > > > JGL
>>
>> >>> > > > I write;
>>
>> >>> > > > I'm well aware of the "charges" against Oswald.
>> >>> > > > Having worked in the media on 11/22/63, I knew about those
>> >>> > > > "charges"
>> >>> > > > before
>> >>> > > > you did.
>>
>> >>> > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support thos=
>e
>> >>> > > > "charges".
>>
>> >>> > > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> >>> > > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?=
>
>> >>> > > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental=
>
>> >>> > > > application?
>> >>> > > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> >>> > > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> >>> > > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA
>> >>> > > > Volume I
>> >>> > > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> >>> > > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to=
>
>> >>> > > > other
>> >>> > > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> >>> > > > You've already Dodged the question of WHEN did the authorities
>> >>> > > > discover
>> >>> > > > the
>> >>> > > > other 25 people missing from the TSBD?
>> >>> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------=
>-----------=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD--------------------------------------------------=
>---------------------=AD-=AD-=AD-=AD-=AD----------------
>>
>> >>> > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>> > > > >news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegrou=
>ps.com...
>> >>> > > > > On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> > > > > > I write;
>> >>> > > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> >>> > > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you
>> >>> > > > > > RUN.
>>
>> >>> > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> >>> > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >>> > > > > Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you,=
>
>> >>> > > > > Tom.
>> >>> > > > > Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>>
>> >>> > > > > JGL
>>
>> >>> > > > > I write;
>>
>> >>> > > > > Thanks for Proving my point.
>>
>> >>> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> >>> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> >>> > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>> >>> > > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>> > > > > >news:b7ba06a6-2dae-475a...@w1g2000prd.googlegr=
>oups.com...
>> >>> > > > > > On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> > > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>
>> >>> > > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>
>> >>> > > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>
>> >>> > > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>
>> >>> > > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>
>> >>> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------=
>---------------=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD----------------------------------------=
>---------------------------
>> >>> > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >>> > > > > > That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom.=
>
>> >>> > > > > > Guys
>> >>> > > > > > like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and=
>
>> >>> > > > > > you
>> >>> > > > > > can't get an answer.
>>
>> >>> > > > > > JGL
>>
>> >>> > > > > > I write;
>> >>> > > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> >>> > > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you
>> >>> > > > > > RUN.
>>
>> >>> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> >>> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>>
>> >>> > > > > > It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
>>
>> >>> > > > > > It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.=
>
>>
>> >>> > > > > > It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
>>
>> >>> > > > > > AGAIN;
>> >>> > > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover the
>>
>> ...
>>
>> read more =BB- Hide quoted text -
tomnln
Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate"?
YES? OR, NO?
"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8Xa8k.2100$%q....@newsfe24.lga...
tomnln
>
> <JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:2a34023f-e344-4a35...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 24, 1:31 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Hey JLeyden;
>>
>> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate"?
>>
>> YES? OR, NO?
>>
>> Had Marina been deported, her daughters June, Rachael would stay in the U
>> S
>> A as American citizens.
>>
>> What do you believe any parent would do?
>
> Let's stop this nonsense, Tom. You're sounding very eighth-gradish.
> If you have evidence that Marina was threatened with deporation if she
> didn't roll over on LHO, just post it. Otherwise find some other
> useless topic to pursue.
>
> JGL
> *****************************
>
> There's No NEED to post it until you DENY Marina was threatened with
> deportation.
>
> It is YOU who is Playing word games.
>
> It is YOU who RUNS from your own evidence/testimony.
>
> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate"?
>
> YES? OR, NO?
Apparently JLeyden is NOT familiar with testimony from his own 26 volumes.
tomnln
Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina if she didn't "cooperate"?
YES? OR, NO?
Had Marina been deported, her daughters June, Rachael would stay in the U S
A
as American citizens.
What do you believe any parent would do?
Looks like JLeyden didn't pass the First Grade of the evidence/testimony
from his own 26 Volumes.
Bud
> Hey JLeyden;
>
> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina if she didn't "cooperate"?
>
> YES? OR, NO?
I would have deported her even if she did cooperate.
> Had Marina been deported, her daughters June, Rachael would stay in the U S
> A
> as American citizens.
They would have went with their mother, idiot.
> What do you believe any parent would do?
I would have booted her and her kids back to the worker`s paradise.
Why should Oswald`s brats reap the benefits of a society he hated and
wanted to do harm to?
> Looks like JLeyden didn't pass the First Grade of the evidence/testimony
> from his own 26 Volumes.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> > "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:KJZ7k.7723$rH1...@newsfe20.lga...
>
> >> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>news:SaZ7k.1154$oY2....@newsfe21.lga...
>
> ...
>
> read more »
tomnln
"Bud" <sirs...@fast.net> wrote in message
news:11c2b39b-6f57-465f...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 25, 1:57 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> Hey JLeyden;
>
> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina if she didn't "cooperate"?
>
> YES? OR, NO?
I would have deported her even if she did cooperate.
> Had Marina been deported, her daughters June, Rachael would stay in the U
> S
> A
> as American citizens.
They would have went with their mother, idiot.
> What do you believe any parent would do?
I would have booted her and her kids back to the worker`s paradise.
Why should Oswald`s brats reap the benefits of a society he hated and
wanted to do harm to?
> Looks like JLeyden didn't pass the First Grade of the evidence/testimony
> from his own 26 Volumes.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TYPICAL NAZI RESPONSE FROM BUD.
Marine has been Earning a living since 1963
June has been Earning a living & raising a family since she became an adult.
Rachael has been Earning a living & raising a family since she became an
adult.
Otherwise your momma that you killed with AIDS through Incest for decades,
could not have been burried for free by the State.
You yourself are on Welfare because working as a guard at Dachau didn't pay
enough.
That's why you condone destruction of evidence>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
Bud
> "Bud" <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:11c2b39b-6f57-465f...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 25, 1:57 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Hey JLeyden;
>
> > Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina if she didn't "cooperate"?
>
> > YES? OR, NO?
>
> I would have deported her even if she did cooperate.
>
> > Had Marina been deported, her daughters June, Rachael would stay in the U
> > S
> > A
> > as American citizens.
>
> They would have went with their mother, idiot.
>
> > What do you believe any parent would do?
>
> I would have booted her and her kids back to the worker`s paradise.
> Why should Oswald`s brats reap the benefits of a society he hated and
> wanted to do harm to?
>
> > Looks like JLeyden didn't pass the First Grade of the evidence/testimony
> > from his own 26 Volumes.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> TYPICAL NAZI RESPONSE FROM BUD.
>
> Marine has been Earning a living since 1963
> June has been Earning a living & raising a family since she became an adult.
> Rachael has been Earning a living & raising a family since she became an
> adult.
I`m sure they would have found gainful employment in Mother Russia,
even Oz did. He have been disgusted at the way his family turned into
capitalist drones in America, though.
> Otherwise your momma that you killed with AIDS through Incest for decades,
> could not have been burried for free by the State.
My mother is alive, moron.
> You yourself are on Welfare because working as a guard at Dachau didn't pay
> enough.
It`s not bad, you just need to supplement your income with gold
teeth.
> ...
>
> read more »
JLeyd...@aol.com
> Hey JLeyden;
>
> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate"?
>
> YES? OR, NO?
Let me try one last time, Tom. Maybe I can catch you on a good day --
one where you have remembered to take your meds. This exchange began
when I said Marina Oswald testified to certain actions by her crackpot
husband and you replied that she was threatened by the authorities
with deportation and would have testified to anything the govt.
wanted. Well, I’m always eager to learn from people who deal in
evidence/testimony so I made a very simple request : "Where in the
evidence/testimony do you find that Marina was threatened with
deportation?" I don’t think that’s an unreasonable request but it’s
only led to a series of evasions and insults and demands from you and
your fellow inmates at the asylum and you still refuse to post any
citation to support your claim. So I think it’s time to invoke the
old playground taunt: Put up or Shut up.
JGL
>
> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:8Xa8k.2100$%q....@newsfe24.lga...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message news:...
>
> >> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >>> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>> >>> > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >>> >>> > > > >news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> >>> >>> > > > > On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>> >>> > > > > > I write;
> >>> >>> > > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>
> >>> >>> > > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony &
> >>> >>> > > > > > you
> >>> >>> > > > > > RUN.
>
> >>> >>> > > > > =========================================================================================
>
Ben Holmes
JLeyd...@aol.com says...>> =A0Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate=
>"?
>>
>> =A0YES? OR, NO?
>
>Let me try one last time, Tom. Maybe I can catch you on a good day --
>one where you have remembered to take your meds. This exchange began
>when I said Marina Oswald testified to certain actions by her crackpot
>husband and you replied that she was threatened by the authorities
>with deportation and would have testified to anything the govt.
>evidence/testimony so I made a very simple request : "Where in the
>evidence/testimony do you find that Marina was threatened with
>only led to a series of evasions and insults and demands from you and
>your fellow inmates at the asylum and you still refuse to post any
>old playground taunt: Put up or Shut up.
>
>JGL
Amusing to see how LNT'ers are forced to lie about the evidence & testimony...
Tell us, "JGL," what did Marina say about deportation threats? Surely you *do*
know, and just as surely you've been ducking and running from this question.
>> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:8Xa8k.2100$%q....@newsfe24.lga...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message news:...
>>
>> >> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:2a34023f-e344-4a35...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com.=
>..
>> >> On Jun 24, 1:31 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>> Hey JLeyden;
>>
>> >>> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperat=
>e"?
>>
>> >>> YES? OR, NO?
>>
>> >>> Had Marina been deported, her daughters June, Rachael would stay in t=
>he
>> >>> U S
>> >>> A as American citizens.
>>
>> >>> What do you believe any parent would do?
>>
>> >> Let's stop this nonsense, Tom. =A0You're sounding very eighth-gradish.
>> >> If you have evidence that Marina was threatened with deporation if she
>> >> didn't roll over on LHO, just post it. =A0Otherwise find some other
>> >> useless topic to pursue.
>>
>> >> JGL
>> >> *****************************
>>
>> >> There's No NEED to post it until you DENY Marina was threatened with
>> >> deportation.
>>
>> >> It is YOU who is Playing word games.
>>
>> >> It is YOU who RUNS from your own evidence/testimony.
>>
>> >> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate=
>"?
>>
>> >> YES? OR, NO?
>>
>> > ps;
>> > You also RUN from other topics.
>>
>> >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
>----=AD=AD-----------------------------------------------------------------=
>---------=AD-=AD-------
>> > >> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >>>news:KJZ7k.7723$rH1...@newsfe20.lga...
>>
>> >>> > "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >>> >news:SaZ7k.1154$oY2....@newsfe21.lga...
>>
>> >>> >> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >>> >>news:2c758080-e8d4-4a5f...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.=
>com...
>> >>> >> On Jun 23, 3:03 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>> >>> You stake your lack of "Credibility" on it and, I'll tell you
>> >>> >>> Exactly
>> >>> >>> what
>> >>> >>> Volume/Page you can find testimony
>> >>> >>> that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>>
>> >>> >>> Not once but, TWICE ! ! !
>>
>> >>> >>> Let's see what your made of JLeyden???
>> >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------=AD=AD-------------------------------------------------------------=
>---
>> >>> > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >>> >> Well, this is the second time you've refused to provide a citation=
>,
>> >>> >> Tom. I get the picture. Please don't bother me again with any more=
> of
>> >>> >> your schoolyard challenges.
>>
>> >>> >> JGL
>>
>> >>> > I write;
>>
>> >>> > I don't HAVE to provide a Citation.
>>
>> >>> > You already AGREED that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>> >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------=AD=AD-------------------------------------------------------------=
>------
>>
>> >>> > \>> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>> >>>news:d6e32d33-f64b-4997...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.=
>com...
>> >>> >>> On Jun 22, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >>> > Is this your "Denial" that Marina was threaterned with
>> >>> >>> > Deportation???
>>
>> >>> >>> > I would be very happy to give you Volume/Page you as long as yo=
>u
>> >>> >>> > admit
>> >>> >>> > you're not familiar with evidence/testimony.
>>
>> >>> >>> Another dodge, Tom. Sounds to me like you've got nothing or you
>> >>> >>> would
>> >>> >>> have produced it.
>>
>> >>> >>> JGL.
>>
>> >>> >>> > (YOU SURE DO GO FROM ISSUE TO ISSUE WITHOUT ANSWERING ANY OF TH=
>EM)
>>
>> >>> >>> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>> >>> >news:3092e4e9-beb9-4963...@26g2000hsk.googlegroup=
>s.com...
>> >>> >>> > On Jun 22, 6:00 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >>> > Where in the evidence/testimony do you find that Marina was
>> >>> >>> > threatened
>> >>> >>> > with deportation?
>>
>> >>> >>> > JGL
>>
>> >>> >>> > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>> >>> > >news:e563b611-d5dd-44c6...@x35g2000hsb.googlegr=
>oups.com...
>> >>> >>> > > On Jun 21, 12:58 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support
>> >>> >>> > > > those
>> >>> >>> > > > "charges".
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his boo=
>k)
>> >>> >>> > > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O
>> >>> >>> > > > Box?
>> >>> >>> > > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box
>> >>> >>> > > > rental
>> >>> >>> > > > application?
>> >>> >>> > > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> >>> >>> > > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> >>> >>> > > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HS=
>CA
>> >>> >>> > > > Volume I
>> >>> >>> > > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move =
>on
>> >>> >>> > > > to
>> >>> >>> > > > other
>> >>> >>> > > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> >>> >>> > > -------------------------------------------------------------=
>--------------=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD----------------------------------------------=
>-------------------------=AD-=AD-=AD-=AD-=AD---------------
>>
>> >>> >>> > > I "KNEW" you would RUN from your own evidence/testimony I lis=
>ted
>> >>> >>> > > above.
>>
>> >>> >>> > > ps;
>> >>> >>> > > Marina was "Threatened" with Deportation.
>>
>> >>> >>> > > She would say anything they TOLD her to.
>>
>> >>> >>> > > AGAIN;
>> >>> >>> > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>> >>> >>> > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O B=
>ox?
>> >>> >>> > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box ren=
>tal
>> >>> >>> > > application?
>> >>> >>> > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> >>> >>> > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> >>> >>> > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA
>> >>> >>> > > Volume
>> >>> >>> > > I
>> >>> >>> > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> >>> >>> > > Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us
>> >>> >>> > > with
>> >>> >>> > > photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the
>> >>> >>> > > handgun
>> >>> >>> > > he
>> >>> >>> > > used to kill Tippit. (Why can=92t all murderers be this helpf=
>ul?)
>> >>> >>> > > Oswald=92s wife testified that she took the photos and analys=
>ts
>> >>> >>> > > determined she used Oswald=92s camera (so much for CIA hanky
>> >>> >>> > > panky).
>> >>> >>> > > The rifle, again per Marina=92s testimony, was kept rolled in=
> a
>> >>> >>> > > blanket
>> >>> >>> > > in the Paine=92s garage but when police checked after the
>> >>> >>> > > assassination,
>> >>> >>> > > it was missing. Somehow it had been transported to the TSBD. =
>The
>> >>> >>> > > Hidell link was established thru ID found in Oswald=92s walle=
>t at
>> >>> >>> > > the
>> >>> >>> > > time of his arrest. Of course, I don=92t expect you to accept=
> any
>> >>> >>> > > of
>> >>> >>> > > this evidence/testimony, Tom, because if you did the game wou=
>ld
>> >>> >>> > > be
>> >>> >>> > > over and then what would you do with yourself?
>>
>> >>> >>> > > JGL
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>> >>> > > >news:7499f594-1322-417e...@25g2000hsx.googleg=
>roups.com...
>> >>> >>> > > > On Jun 19, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you s=
>eem
>> >>> >>> > > > to
>> >>> >>> > > > have
>> >>> >>> > > > a problem with reading comprehension. The only rifle found =
>in
>> >>> >>> > > > the
>> >>> >>> > > > TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon (C2766) that =
>had
>> >>> >>> > > > been
>> >>> >>> > > > purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). The
>> >>> >>> > > > bullets
>> >>> >>> > > > that
>> >>> >>> > > > killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively t=
>o
>> >>> >>> > > > this
>> >>> >>> > > > weapon. Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffect=
>s
>> >>> >>> > > > and
>> >>> >>> > > > Ben
>> >>> >>> > > > who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > JGL
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > I write;
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > I'm well aware of the "charges" against Oswald.
>> >>> >>> > > > Having worked in the media on 11/22/63, I knew about those
>> >>> >>> > > > "charges"
>> >>> >>> > > > before
>> >>> >>> > > > you did.
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support
>> >>> >>> > > > those
>> >>> >>> > > > "charges".
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his boo=
>k)
>> >>> >>> > > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O
>> >>> >>> > > > Box?
>> >>> >>> > > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box
>> >>> >>> > > > rental
>> >>> >>> > > > application?
>> >>> >>> > > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> >>> >>> > > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> >>> >>> > > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HS=
>CA
>> >>> >>> > > > Volume I
>> >>> >>> > > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move =
>on
>> >>> >>> > > > to
>> >>> >>> > > > other
>> >>> >>> > > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > You've already Dodged the question of WHEN did the authorit=
>ies
>> >>> >>> > > > discover
>> >>> >>> > > > the
>> >>> >>> > > > other 25 people missing from the TSBD?
>> >>> >>> > > > -----------------------------------------------------------=
>----------------=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD-----------------------------------------=
>-----------------------------=AD-=AD-=AD-=AD-=AD-=AD----------------
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > >news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googl=
>egroups.com...
>> >>> >>> > > > > On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > I write;
>> >>> >>> > > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony &
>> >>> >>> > > > > > you
>> >>> >>> > > > > > RUN.
>>
>> >>> >>> > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D
>>
>> ...
>>
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tomnln
with Deportation.
He just don't know where to find it in the 26 volumes.
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c68fa6eb-071c-47d7...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
JLeyd...@aol.com
> JLeyden has already admitted there is testimony that Marina was threatened
> with Deportation.
>
> He just don't know where to find it in the 26 volumes.
Is there anyone who can not figure out why Tom "I don't gotta show no
stinkin' citations" Rossley is being so coy here -- well, except Ben,
that is? He's even taking liberties with the truth. It's all rather
pathetic.
JGL
>
> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> >>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ben Holmes
JLeyd...@aol.com says...
>
>On Jun 26, 12:51=A0pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> JLeyden has already admitted there is testimony that Marina was threatene=
>d
>> with Deportation.
>>
>> He just don't know where to find it in the 26 volumes.
>
>Is there anyone who can not figure out why Tom "I don't gotta show no
>stinkin' citations" Rossley is being so coy here -- well, except Ben,
>that is? He's even taking liberties with the truth. It's all rather
>pathetic.
>
>JGL
Tell us, "JGL," how long will you continue to evade telling everyone here
EXACTLY what Marina testified to about deportation threats?
Does the truth scare you?
>> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:c68fa6eb-071c-47d7...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 25, 1:51 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Hey JLeyden;
>>
>> > Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't "cooperate"=
>?
>>
>> > YES? OR, NO?
>>
>> Let me try one last time, Tom. =A0Maybe I can catch you on a good day --
>> one where you have remembered to take your meds. =A0This exchange began
>> when I said Marina Oswald testified to certain actions by her crackpot
>> husband and you replied that she was threatened by the authorities
>> with deportation and would have testified to anything the govt.
>> wanted. =A0Well, I=92m always eager to learn from people who =A0deal in
>> evidence/testimony so I made a very simple request : "Where in the
>> evidence/testimony do you find that Marina was threatened with
>> deportation?" =A0I don=92t think that=92s an unreasonable request but it=
>=92s
>> only led to a series of evasions =A0and insults and demands from you and
>> your fellow inmates at the asylum and you still refuse to post =A0any
>> citation to support your claim. =A0So I think it=92s time to invoke the
>> old playground taunt: Put up or Shut up.
>>
>> JGL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:8Xa8k.2100$%q....@newsfe24.lga...
>>
>> > > "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message news:...
>>
>> > >> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> > >>news:2a34023f-e344-4a35...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.co=
>m...
>> > >> On Jun 24, 1:31 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > >>> Hey JLeyden;
>>
>> > >>> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't
>> > >>> "cooperate"?
>>
>> > >>> YES? OR, NO?
>>
>> > >>> Had Marina been deported, her daughters June, Rachael would stay in
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> U S
>> > >>> A as American citizens.
>>
>> > >>> What do you believe any parent would do?
>>
>> > >> Let's stop this nonsense, Tom. You're sounding very eighth-gradish.
>> > >> If you have evidence that Marina was threatened with deporation if s=
>he
>> > >> didn't roll over on LHO, just post it. Otherwise find some other
>> > >> useless topic to pursue.
>>
>> > >> JGL
>> > >> *****************************
>>
>> > >> There's No NEED to post it until you DENY Marina was threatened with
>> > >> deportation.
>>
>> > >> It is YOU who is Playing word games.
>>
>> > >> It is YOU who RUNS from your own evidence/testimony.
>>
>> > >> Did the authorities threaten to Deport Marina is she didn't
>> > >> "cooperate"?
>>
>> > >> YES? OR, NO?
>>
>> > > ps;
>> > > You also RUN from other topics.
>>
>> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>
>> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------=
>------=AD=AD=AD------------------------------------------------------------=
>-------------=AD-=AD-=AD-------
>> > > >> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
>> > >>>news:KJZ7k.7723$rH1...@newsfe20.lga...
>>
>> > >>> > "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > >>> >news:SaZ7k.1154$oY2....@newsfe21.lga...
>>
>> > >>> >> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> > >>> >>news:2c758080-e8d4-4a5f...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroup=
>s.com...
>> > >>> >> On Jun 23, 3:03 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > >>> >>> You stake your lack of "Credibility" on it and, I'll tell you
>> > >>> >>> Exactly
>> > >>> >>> what
>> > >>> >>> Volume/Page you can find testimony
>> > >>> >>> that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>>
>> > >>> >>> Not once but, TWICE ! ! !
>>
>> > >>> >>> Let's see what your made of JLeyden???
>> > >>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------=
>----------=AD=AD=AD--------------------------------------------------------=
>--------
>> > >>> > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > >>> >> Well, this is the second time you've refused to provide a citati=
>on,
>> > >>> >> Tom. I get the picture. Please don't bother me again with any mo=
>re
>> > >>> >> of
>> > >>> >> your schoolyard challenges.
>>
>> > >>> >> JGL
>>
>> > >>> > I write;
>>
>> > >>> > I don't HAVE to provide a Citation.
>>
>> > >>> > You already AGREED that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>> > >>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------=
>----------=AD=AD=AD--------------------------------------------------------=
>-----------
>>
>> > >>> > \>> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >>> >>>news:d6e32d33-f64b-4997...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroup=
>s.com...
>> > >>> >>> On Jun 22, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > >>> >>> > Is this your "Denial" that Marina was threaterned with
>> > >>> >>> > Deportation???
>>
>> > >>> >>> > I would be very happy to give you Volume/Page you as long as =
>you
>> > >>> >>> > admit
>> > >>> >>> > you're not familiar with evidence/testimony.
>>
>> > >>> >>> Another dodge, Tom. Sounds to me like you've got nothing or you
>> > >>> >>> would
>> > >>> >>> have produced it.
>>
>> > >>> >>> JGL.
>>
>> > >>> >>> > (YOU SURE DO GO FROM ISSUE TO ISSUE WITHOUT ANSWERING ANY OF
>> > >>> >>> > THEM)
>>
>> > >>> >>> > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >>> >>> >news:3092e4e9-beb9-4963...@26g2000hsk.googlegro=
>ups.com...
>> > >>> >>> > On Jun 22, 6:00 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > >>> >>> > Where in the evidence/testimony do you find that Marina was
>> > >>> >>> > threatened
>> > >>> >>> > with deportation?
>>
>> > >>> >>> > JGL
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >>> >>> > >news:e563b611-d5dd-44c6...@x35g2000hsb.google=
>groups.com...
>> > >>> >>> > > On Jun 21, 12:58 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to suppo=
>rt
>> > >>> >>> > > > those
>> > >>> >>> > > > "charges".
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his
>> > >>> >>> > > > book)
>> > >>> >>> > > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P=
> O
>> > >>> >>> > > > Box?
>> > >>> >>> > > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box
>> > >>> >>> > > > rental
>> > >>> >>> > > > application?
>> > >>> >>> > > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> > >>> >>> > > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> > >>> >>> > > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See
>> > >>> >>> > > > HSCA
>> > >>> >>> > > > Volume I
>> > >>> >>> > > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll mov=
>e
>> > >>> >>> > > > on
>> > >>> >>> > > > to
>> > >>> >>> > > > other
>> > >>> >>> > > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > -----------------------------------------------------------=
>----------------=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD-----------------------------------------=
>-----------------------------=AD-=AD-=AD-=AD-=AD-=AD---------------
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > I "KNEW" you would RUN from your own evidence/testimony I
>> > >>> >>> > > listed
>> > >>> >>> > > above.
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > ps;
>> > >>> >>> > > Marina was "Threatened" with Deportation.
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > She would say anything they TOLD her to.
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > AGAIN;
>> > >>> >>> > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his boo=
>k)
>> > >>> >>> > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O
>> > >>> >>> > > Box?
>> > >>> >>> > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box
>> > >>> >>> > > rental
>> > >>> >>> > > application?
>> > >>> >>> > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>> > >>> >>> > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>> > >>> >>> > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HS=
>CA
>> > >>> >>> > > Volume
>> > >>> >>> > > I
>> > >>> >>> > > pages 463-464)
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide =
>us
>> > >>> >>> > > with
>> > >>> >>> > > photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the
>> > >>> >>> > > handgun
>> > >>> >>> > > he
>> > >>> >>> > > used to kill Tippit. (Why can=92t all murderers be this
>> > >>> >>> > > helpful?)
>> > >>> >>> > > Oswald=92s wife testified that she took the photos and anal=
>ysts
>> > >>> >>> > > determined she used Oswald=92s camera (so much for CIA hank=
>y
>> > >>> >>> > > panky).
>> > >>> >>> > > The rifle, again per Marina=92s testimony, was kept rolled =
>in a
>> > >>> >>> > > blanket
>> > >>> >>> > > in the Paine=92s garage but when police checked after the
>> > >>> >>> > > assassination,
>> > >>> >>> > > it was missing. Somehow it had been transported to the TSBD=
>.
>> > >>> >>> > > The
>> > >>> >>> > > Hidell link was established thru ID found in Oswald=92s wal=
>let
>> > >>> >>> > > at
>> > >>> >>> > > the
>> > >>> >>> > > time of his arrest. Of course, I don=92t expect you to acce=
>pt
>> > >>> >>> > > any
>> > >>> >>> > > of
>> > >>> >>> > > this evidence/testimony, Tom, because if you did the game
>> > >>> >>> > > would
>> > >>> >>> > > be
>> > >>> >>> > > over and then what would you do with yourself?
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > JGL
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > >news:7499f594-1322-417e...@25g2000hsx.googl=
>egroups.com...
>> > >>> >>> > > > On Jun 19, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > > Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you
>> > >>> >>> > > > seem
>> > >>> >>> > > > to
>> > >>> >>> > > > have
>> > >>> >>> > > > a problem with reading comprehension. The only rifle foun=
>d
>> > >>> >>> > > > in
>> > >>> >>> > > > the
>> > >>> >>> > > > TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon (C2766) tha=
>t
>> > >>> >>> > > > had
>> > >>> >>> > > > been
>> > >>> >>> > > > purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). The
>> > >>> >>> > > > bullets
>> > >>> >>> > > > that
>> > >>> >>> > > > killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively=
> to
>> > >>> >>> > > > this
>> > >>> >>> > > > weapon. Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffe=
>cts
>> > >>> >>> > > > and
>> > >>> >>> > > > Ben
>> > >>> >>> > > > who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > > JGL
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > > I write;
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > > I'm well aware of the "charges" against Oswald.
>> > >>> >>> > > > Having worked in the media on 11/22/63, I knew about thos=
>e
>> > >>> >>> > > > "charges"
>> > >>> >>> > > > before
>> > >>> >>> > > > you did.
>>
>> > >>> >>> > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to suppo=
>rt
>>
>> ...
>>
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Bud
> In article <a8d7b6ff-aeaa-4c2e-88ab-cd94edc6c...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> JLeyden...@aol.com says...
>
>
>
> >On Jun 26, 12:51=A0pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> JLeyden has already admitted there is testimony that Marina was threatene=
> >d
> >> with Deportation.
>
> >> He just don't know where to find it in the 26 volumes.
>
> >Is there anyone who can not figure out why Tom "I don't gotta show no
> >stinkin' citations" Rossley is being so coy here -- well, except Ben,
> >that is? He's even taking liberties with the truth. It's all rather
> >pathetic.
>
> >JGL
>
> Tell us, "JGL," how long will you continue to evade telling everyone here
> EXACTLY what Marina testified to about deportation threats?
>
> Does the truth scare you?
Why don`t you tell everyone here EXACTLY what Marina said, Ben? And
while you are at it, explain why, if they used the threat of
deportation to get Marina to give false information, why did they
neglect to tell her not to mention this when giving her testimony?
> ...
>
> read more »
Bud
> On Jun 26, 12:51 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > JLeyden has already admitted there is testimony that Marina was threatened
> > with Deportation.
>
> > He just don't know where to find it in the 26 volumes.
>
> Is there anyone who can not figure out why Tom "I don't gotta show no
> stinkin' citations" Rossley is being so coy here -- well, except Ben,
> that is? He's even taking liberties with the truth. It's all rather
> pathetic.
Yah, Ben thinks you need to provide citations for Tom`s claim. I
told you he was retarded.
> ...
>
> read more »
tomnln
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:a8d7b6ff-aeaa-4c2e...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 26, 12:51 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> JLeyden has already admitted there is testimony that Marina was threatened
> with Deportation.
>
> He just don't know where to find it in the 26 volumes.
JLeyden wrote;
Is there anyone who can not figure out why Tom "I don't gotta show no
stinkin' citations" Rossley is being so coy here -- well, except Ben,
that is? He's even taking liberties with the truth. It's all rather
pathetic.
JGL
I write;
It's really very simple folks.
I wrote that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation" by the authorities.
JLeyden asked for a citation, Implying Doubt. (apparently JLeyden is NOT
familiar with the testimony in the 26 volumes.)
I will be HAPPY to give TWO Citations of testimony as soon as JLeyden
publicly Disagrees with my claim.
Once JLeyden states publicly that Marina was NOT threatened with
deportation,
I will be HAPPY to give BOTH of those Citations from testimony in the 26
volumes.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tomnln
Is this your "Denial" that Marina was threatened with Deportation???
"Bud" <sirs...@fast.net> wrote in message
news:3df03a61-e33f-4e0a...@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
tomnln
On Jun 26, 6:31 pm, "JLeyden...@aol.com" <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jun 26, 12:51 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > JLeyden has already admitted there is testimony that Marina was
> > threatened
> > with Deportation.
>
> > He just don't know where to find it in the 26 volumes.
>
> Is there anyone who can not figure out why Tom "I don't gotta show no
> stinkin' citations" Rossley is being so coy here -- well, except Ben,
> that is? He's even taking liberties with the truth. It's all rather
> pathetic.
Bud wrote;
Yah, Ben thinks you need to provide citations for Tom`s claim. I
told you he was retarded.
I write;
Hey Bud;
Are you Denying that Marina was threatened with Deportation???
(we'll see who's retarded)
Me or, the chickenshit who RUNS from his own evidence.testimony?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bud
> "Bud" <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:b44289c8-07f4-4663...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 26, 6:31 pm, "JLeyden...@aol.com" <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote:> On Jun 26, 12:51 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > JLeyden has already admitted there is testimony that Marina was
> > > threatened
> > > with Deportation.
>
> > > He just don't know where to find it in the 26 volumes.
>
> > Is there anyone who can not figure out why Tom "I don't gotta show no
> > stinkin' citations" Rossley is being so coy here -- well, except Ben,
> > that is? He's even taking liberties with the truth. It's all rather
> > pathetic.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bud wrote;
>
> Yah, Ben thinks you need to provide citations for Tom`s claim. I
> told you he was retarded.
>
> I write;
>
> Hey Bud;
>
> Are you Denying that Marina was threatened with Deportation???
You need me to translate English into English for you, idjit? It`s
your claim, support it or don`t.
> (we'll see who's retarded)
(we do)
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deportation.
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Bud
> I only have to give Citations to those who "Deny" Marina was threatened with
> deportation.
I guess thats a "don`t". Some retard wrote "A Winner addresses his
ADVERSARIES to discuss evidence/testimony (because his position is
defensible)" recently. I guess that makes you a loser with an
indefensible position.
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David Von Pein
Uh-oh! Bud's posting at about the same time as me.
This can only mean one thing.....
(I love it when this "posting at the same time" thing occurs.)
JLeyd...@aol.com
> I write;
>
> It's really very simple folks.
>
> I wrote that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation" by the authorities.
>
> JLeyden asked for a citation, Implying Doubt. (apparently JLeyden is NOT
> familiar with the testimony in the 26 volumes.)
>
> I will be HAPPY to give TWO Citations of testimony as soon as JLeyden
> publicly Disagrees with my claim.
>
> Once JLeyden states publicly that Marina was NOT threatened with
> deportation,
> I will be HAPPY to give BOTH of those Citations from testimony in the 26
> volumes.
Poor Tom. I have to think he was in the Slow Readers group in school.
He apparently doesn't even understand his own posts because he
previously said on this thread, "JLeyden has already admitted there is
testimony that Marina was threatened with Deportation." If he
believes that, why does he continue to carry on with this farce?
Well, you know Tom -- he "don't gotta show no stinkin' citations."
JGL.
> <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a8d7b6ff-aeaa-4c2e...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 26, 12:51 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> JLeyden has already admitted there is testimony that Marina was threatened
> > with Deportation.
>
> > He just don't know where to find it in the 26 volumes.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> JLeyden wrote;
>
> Is there anyone who can not figure out why Tom "I don't gotta show no
> stinkin' citations" Rossley is being so coy here -- well, except Ben,
> that is? He's even taking liberties with the truth. It's all rather
> pathetic.
>
> JGL
>
> I write;
>
> It's really very simple folks.
>
> I wrote that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation" by the authorities.
>
> JLeyden asked for a citation, Implying Doubt. (apparently JLeyden is NOT
> familiar with the testimony in the 26 volumes.)
>
> I will be HAPPY to give TWO Citations of testimony as soon as JLeyden
> publicly Disagrees with my claim.
>
> Once JLeyden states publicly that Marina was NOT threatened with
> deportation,
> I will be HAPPY to give BOTH of those Citations from testimony in the 26
> volumes.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>> >>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tomnln
<JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 26, 8:33 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> I write;
>
> It's really very simple folks.
>
> I wrote that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation" by the authorities.
>
> JLeyden asked for a citation, Implying Doubt. (apparently JLeyden is NOT
> familiar with the testimony in the 26 volumes.)
>
> I will be HAPPY to give TWO Citations of testimony as soon as JLeyden
> publicly Disagrees with my claim.
>
> Once JLeyden states publicly that Marina was NOT threatened with
> deportation,
> I will be HAPPY to give BOTH of those Citations from testimony in the 26
> volumes.
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JLeyden wrote;
Poor Tom. I have to think he was in the Slow Readers group in school.
He apparently doesn't even understand his own posts because he
previously said on this thread, "JLeyden has already admitted there is
testimony that Marina was threatened with Deportation." If he
believes that, why does he continue to carry on with this farce?
Well, you know Tom -- he "don't gotta show no stinkin' citations."
JGL.
Happy to see that JLeyden has reverted to throwing insults.
It gives me an opportunity to point out his Advanced school group on Child
Molestation.
She don't even have the guts to state if she knows that the authorities
threatened to deport Marina.
Apparently JLeyden Supports threatening women.
PS loser;
I'm better than you at quoting evidence/testimony.
I'm better than you at trading insults.
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tomnln
Do you wanna tell us wether or not Marina was threatened with deportation?
I say she WAS.
"Bud" <sirs...@fast.net> wrote in message
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tomnln
"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:SaZ7k.1154$oY2....@newsfe21.lga...
>>
>> <JLeyd...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:2c758080-e8d4-4a5f...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 23, 3:03 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> You stake your lack of "Credibility" on it and, I'll tell you Exactly
>>> what
>>> Volume/Page you can find testimony
>>> that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
>>>
>>> Not once but, TWICE ! ! !
>>>
>>> Let's see what your made of JLeyden???
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> JLeyden wrote;
>
>> Well, this is the second time you've refused to provide a citation,
>> Tom. I get the picture. Please don't bother me again with any more of
>> your schoolyard challenges.
>>
>> JGL
>
>
>
>
> I write;
>
> I don't HAVE to provide a Citation.
>
> You already AGREED that Marina was "Threatened with Deportation".
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> > > I "KNEW" you would RUN from your own evidence/testimony I listed
>>> > > above.
>>>
>>> > > ps;
>>> > > Marina was "Threatened" with Deportation.
>>>
>>> > > She would say anything they TOLD her to.
>>>
>>> > > AGAIN;
>>> > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>>> > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
>>> > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
>>> > > application?
>>> > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>>> > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>>> > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA Volume
>>> > > I
>>> > > pages 463-464)
>>>
>>> > > Fortunately, Tom, Oswald was considerate enough to provide us with
>>> > > photos of himself holding the murder weapon along with the handgun
>>> > > he
>>> > > used to kill Tippit. (Why can’t all murderers be this helpful?)
>>> > > Oswald’s wife testified that she took the photos and analysts
>>> > > determined she used Oswald’s camera (so much for CIA hanky panky).
>>> > > The rifle, again per Marina’s testimony, was kept rolled in a
>>> > > blanket
>>> > > in the Paine’s garage but when police checked after the
>>> > > assassination,
>>> > > it was missing. Somehow it had been transported to the TSBD. The
>>> > > Hidell link was established thru ID found in Oswald’s wallet at the
>>> > > time of his arrest. Of course, I don’t expect you to accept any of
>>> > > this evidence/testimony, Tom, because if you did the game would be
>>> > > over and then what would you do with yourself?
>>>
>>> > > JGL
>>>
>>> > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>>
>>> > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> > > >news:7499f594-1322-417e...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>> > > > On Jun 19, 10:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > > Let me give you the answer to my question, Tom, since you seem to
>>> > > > have
>>> > > > a problem with reading comprehension. The only rifle found in the
>>> > > > TSBD was a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mil. weapon (C2766) that had
>>> > > > been
>>> > > > purchased by one A.Hidell (a/k/a Lee Harvey Oswald). The bullets
>>> > > > that
>>> > > > killed JFK and wounded Connally were matched conclusively to this
>>> > > > weapon. Please write this down and pass the info to Aeffects and
>>> > > > Ben
>>> > > > who seem to be a bit slow on the uptake themselves.
>>>
>>> > > > JGL
>>>
>>> > > > I write;
>>>
>>> > > > I'm well aware of the "charges" against Oswald.
>>> > > > Having worked in the media on 11/22/63, I knew about those
>>> > > > "charges"
>>> > > > before
>>> > > > you did.
>>>
>>> > > > My concern as an American, is evidence/testimony to support those
>>> > > > "charges".
>>>
>>> > > > #1. C2766 is ALSO owned by Dr. John Lattimer. (read his book)
>>> > > > #2. Was Hidell authorized to "Receive" mail at Oswald's P O Box?
>>> > > > #3. WHY did they Lie about Disposing of part 3 of the Box rental
>>> > > > application?
>>> > > > (that lists who else has access to that Box)
>>> > > > #4. WHO signed for that rifle sent to Oswald's P O Box?
>>> > > > #5. CE 399 could NOT be traced to THAT rifle CE139. (See HSCA
>>> > > > Volume I
>>> > > > pages 463-464)
>>>
>>> > > > Stick to THOSE issues that You brought up, then we'll move on to
>>> > > > other
>>> > > > evidence/testimony from YOUR Report.
>>>
>>> > > > You've already Dodged the question of WHEN did the authorities
>>> > > > discover
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > other 25 people missing from the TSBD?
>>> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> > > > >news:b954fcb0-cea8-4a4f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>> > > > > On Jun 19, 3:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > > > > I write;
>>> > > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>>
>>> > > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you
>>> > > > > > RUN.
>>>
>>> > > > > =========================================================================================
>>> > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>>
>>> > > > > Serves me right for getting involved in a discussion with you,
>>> > > > > Tom.
>>> > > > > Like so many others on ACJ, you're just here to play games.
>>>
>>> > > > > JGL
>>>
>>> > > > > I write;
>>>
>>> > > > > Thanks for Proving my point.
>>>
>>> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>>
>>> > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>>> > > > > ========================================================================================
>>>
>>> > > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> > > > > >news:b7ba06a6-2dae-475a...@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>>> > > > > > On Jun 19, 12:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>>
>>> > > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>>
>>> > > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>>
>>> > > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>>
>>> > > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>>
>>> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>>
>>> > > > > > That's why this JFK thing has dragged on for 44+ years, Tom.
>>> > > > > > Guys
>>> > > > > > like you think this is a game. Ask 'em a direct question and
>>> > > > > > you
>>> > > > > > can't get an answer.
>>>
>>> > > > > > JGL
>>>
>>> > > > > > I write;
>>> > > > > > Wrong AGAIN JLeyden;
>>>
>>> > > > > > I ask you questions about your own evidence/testimony & you
>>> > > > > > RUN.
>>>
>>> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>>
>>> > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>>>
>>> > > > > > It is YOU who think "destruction of evidence" is a "GAME".
>>>
>>> > > > > > It's YOU who makes a Mockery of the American Justice System.
>>>
>>> > > > > > It's YOU who condones Felonies by the authorities.
>>>
>>> > > > > > AGAIN;
>>> > > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover the time that the other 25
>>> > > > > > people
>>> > > > > > left
>>> > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > building?
>>> > > > > > (or, did they know "In Advance" they were looking for Oswald?)
>>>
>>> > > > > > If you CAN'T support your own evidence/tyestimony, Your
>>> > > > > > evidence/testimony
>>> > > > > > is USELESS !
>>> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> > > > > > > <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> > > > > > >news:c5adbd12-7e10-4c8c...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>>> > > > > > > On Jun 15, 10:50�pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> In
>>> > > > > > > case
>>> > > > > > > McAdams
>>> > > > > > > don't post this one.
>>>
>>> > > > > > > > WHEN did the authorities discover exactly what time they
>>> > > > > > > > all
>>> > > > > > > > left
>>> > > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > > Building?
>>>
>>> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > > > > > JLeyden wrote;
>>>
>>> > > > > > > Again the question, Tom: How many of those you name as
>>> > > > > > > leaving
>>> > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > building left behind a rifle that was traced ballistically
>>> > > > > > > to
>>> > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > shots that killed the President and wounded Connally? Only
>>> > > > > > > one:
>>> > > > > > > Oswald. As Gerald Posner wrote, "Case Closed."
>>>
>>> > > > > > > JGL
>>>
>>> > > > > > > I write;
>>>
>>> > > > > > > Truly saw Oswald on the 2nd floor at 12:32.
>>>
>>> > > > > > > WHEN was the last time he saw the other 25 missing?
>>>
>>> > > > > > > What time did the other 24 Leave?
>>>
>>> > > > > > > What time did Truly realize they were Missing?
>>>
>>> > > > > > > Wanna address the destruction od evidence?>>>
>>>
>>> > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>>>
>>> > > > > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>>> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> > > > > > > > "yeuhd" <NeedlesWax...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> > > > > > > >news:561a331c-30f5-4f25...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>> > > > > > > > On Jun 15, 4:19 pm, Anthony Marsh
>>> > > > > > > > <anthony_ma...@comcast.net>
>>> > > > > > > > wrote:
>>>
tomnln
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Bud
> Hey AIDS Distributor; (bud)
>
> Do you wanna tell us wether or not Marina was threatened with deportation?
>
> I say she WAS.
Yah, but you say a lot of stupid shit. I hoping you could
substantiate your claim, but I see you`ve turned it into another
retard game.
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David Von Pein
It's also interesting to note that kooks/(retards) like Tom The
Nutsack must be willing to believe that the FBI was ready and willing
to cut their own throats (in a sense) following the assassination --
i.e., an assassination that the 'Kook Kommunity' thinks was being
pinned on an innocent man named Oswald, with some of the prime 'LHO
framers' being the FBI, an organization that should have been very
anxious to have Oswald CLEARED of the murder charges against him.
Go figure kooks/(retards).
tomnln
You can Swallow this down to your Ass, where you Love it;
ORRRRRRRRRR,
I can Shove it up your ASS all the way up to your Swallower! ! !
http://whokilledjfk.net/deport_marina.htm
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tomnln
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Just for you you KOOK-SUCKER>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/deport_marina.htm
The authorities threaterned to deport Marina if she refused to "co-operate"
Testimony from Marina.
Testimony from Robert Oswald.
What ever happened to the Law that a wife can NOT be Forced to testify
against her husband???
Sam Brown
> Hey AIDS Distributor; (bud)
>
> Do you wanna tell us wether or not Marina was threatened with deportation?
>
> I say she WAS.
Ah, but you are a moron.
tomnln
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>
> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> Hey AIDS Distributor; (bud)
>>
>> Do you wanna tell us wether or not Marina was threatened with
>> deportation?
>>
>> I say she WAS.
>
> Ah, but you are a moron.
Everytime you say "Ah" you swallow ANOTHER Girl Scout Troop!
You're STILL an ABOMINATION.
And, you STILL "RUN" from your own evidence/testimony.
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
Sam Brown
>
> "Sam Brown" <samjb...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>>
>> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:oe99k.1420$oY2....@newsfe21.lga...
>>> Hey AIDS Distributor; (bud)
>>>
>>> Do you wanna tell us wether or not Marina was threatened with
>>> deportation?
>>>
>>> I say she WAS.
>>
>> Ah, but you are a moron.
>
>
>
>
> Everytime you say "Ah" you swallow ANOTHER Girl Scout Troop!
And when you say "ah" you just shit your pants. Again.
tomnln
And, you STILL "RUN" from your own evidence/testimony.
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
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