HERE'S ONE FOR THE NUTCASES
Gil Jesus
Name another murder where there was a "jet effect".
Bud
> Name another murder where there was a "jet effect".
This contains the answer for the retard...
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/olivier_a.htm
The Army, interested as they are in wounds and wounding, conducted
tests to gather information. This is called science, something always
in conflict with what retards want to believe. The scientific method
is to conduct tests to gather information, it`s conclusions can be
demonstrated. Oliver`s findings for the Army were that "...no small
arms as we know it, shoulder fired weapon, has knock down power". For
the retarded, this means shooting someone with a rifle has no ability
to violently throw a person. But what he did find is that shooting
animals in the brain caused severe spasms in parts of the body
untouched by the bullet, and unrelated to the energy of the bullet
striking the animal.
And the "jet effect" occurs whenever the conditions for it exist,
it is an established phenomenon of physics, another science retards
are ignorant of.
Richard
"Bud" <sirs...@fast.net> wrote in message
news:3c7c97ef-a653-47c4...@z7g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
Oh please. Are we supposed to believe that a .357 Magnum, or a .45 caliber
handgun can't knock somebody down? That a high powered rifle powerful enough
to bring down a deer (or an elephant!) can't either?
BTW, Bud, Gil didn't ask you to cite a test, he asked for an actual case of
a murder where there was a jet effect. Can you?
Bud
> "Bud" <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote in message
No, you are supposed to believe things that are wrong. If there were
no ignorant people there would be no CTers, and who would I have to
feel superior to then? Well, I guess there are moon kooks and 9-11
truthers to fill that void.
I`ll give you a hint, Richard, bullets just don`t impart a lot of
energy on the body. It`s more akin to stabbing a watermelon with an
icepick, the energy is all on a small point, and that point has the
necessary energy to break through resistance without disturbing the
whole.
Here is some footage of a Nazi being executed by a firing squad.
Even though he was shot by about twenty military rifles
simultaneously, he isn`t thrown back, he slumps forward.
http://www.lepak.tv/index.php?page=videos§ion=view&vid_id=103234
That bullets have the ability to knock people down or back is a myth
that was even busted on mythbusters.
> BTW, Bud, Gil didn't ask you to cite a test, he asked for an actual case of
> a murder where there was a jet effect. Can you?
I did answer the question. The "jet effect" occurs whenever the
conditions for it exist. It isn`t only in effect on Wednesdays. How
many murders are filmed?
Bud
After some searching, I think I have found a video showing the jet
effect at work. In this video, a captured defense contractor in Iraq
is executed by rifle shots to the head. After each shot (there are
two), the victim`s head moves towards the shooter.
WARNING: THIS LINK LEADS TO EXTREMELY BRUTAL FOOTAGE.
Gil Jesus
> BTW, Bud, Gil didn't ask you to cite a test, he asked for an actual case of
> a murder where there was a jet effect. Can you?-
I haven't been able to get these nutcases to answer questions for
years.
Of course they can't. There's no such thing.
Video of a hostage taker shot in head by a police sniper with a rifle.
No jet effect:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8139288327830069420
drummist1965
Well, idiot, Bud just posted a video of a man being shot through the
head, and the opposite thing happened.
His body raised toward the shooter, with blood gushing out of the
opposite side of the head. What was that, again, about not being able
to get "nutcases to answer questions for years. Of course they can't.
There's no such thing."? Looks like you just been handed your head on
a silver platter, Wimpy!
Chuck Schuyler
> Well, idiot, Bud just posted a video of a man being shot through the
> head, and the opposite thing happened.
> His body raised toward the shooter, with blood gushing out of the
> opposite side of the head. What was that, again, about not being able
> to get "nutcases to answer questions for years. Of course they can't.
> There's no such thing."? Looks like you just been handed your head on
> a silver platter, Wimpy!
Spittle-Faced YouTube Pirate Gil Jesus will simply claim that the vid
Bud posted doesn't count for some reason.
We'll see...
aeffects
my goodness ole Steve-o-reno and the thief Chuckles *buy my reverse
mortgage program* Schuyler. You two turds should be ashamed of what
your foisting on the american public... SCUM you are, indeed!
Bud
> On Jan 1, 10:28 pm, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 1, 10:56 am, "Richard" <richcole...@sysmatrix.net> wrote:
>
> > > a murder where there was a jet effect. Can you?-
>
> > I haven't been able to get these nutcases to answer questions for
> > years.
> > Of course they can't. There's no such thing.
>
> > Video of a hostage taker shot in head by a police sniper with a rifle.
> > No jet effect:
>
> >http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8139288327830069420
>
> head, and the opposite thing happened.
> His body raised toward the shooter, with blood gushing out of the
> opposite side of the head.
I`ve never been a big fan of the "jet effect" as an explanation of
Kennedy`s movements after the headshot at z-313, I always thought it
was a purely neurological reaction, but this film has caused me to
reconsider. Especially this guy`s reaction to the second shot, his
head is lifted and his whole body rolled, this is the weight of his
head and upper body being lifted against the force of gravity, whereas
Kennedy sitting upright would have a far less resistance due to
gravity, his body could be pulled back much easier with much less
energy needed (what a run on sentence). The reactions by this guy and
Kennedy could both still be neurological and not jet effect, but this
film led me to reconsider the jet effect as the cause of Kennedy`s
reaction.
In any case, I think this is pretty conclusive evidence of a body
moving towards the weapon that is shooting the victim. Many people
were convinced that there was a shooter on the knoll based on
Kennedy`s movements after being hit, and it seems that those people
based this assumption on the belief that a body must be driven away
from the source of the shots, and that that belief is just wrong.
Bud
> On Jan 1, 9:04 pm, Chuck Schuyler <chu...@am-mtg.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 1, 9:57 pm, drummist1965 <elpdrum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > head, and the opposite thing happened.
> > > His body raised toward the shooter, with blood gushing out of the
> > > opposite side of the head. What was that, again, about not being able
> > > to get "nutcases to answer questions for years. Of course they can't.
> > > There's no such thing."? Looks like you just been handed your head on
> > > a silver platter, Wimpy!
>
> > Spittle-Faced YouTube Pirate Gil Jesus will simply claim that the vid
>
> > We'll see...
>
> my goodness ole Steve-o-reno and the thief Chuckles *buy my reverse
> mortgage program* Schuyler. You two turds should be ashamed of what
> your foisting on the american public... SCUM you are, indeed!
What is the definition of "troll" again?
drummist1965
Well, as you can see, Gil has run off like a coward, and won't
acknowledge the fact that you provided proof solid that a body will,
in fact, bolt backwards, toward the shooter, when shot in the head
from behind. Can we expect anything other than this, though, from such
a twit as Gil Jesus?
Walt
Some Stupid Bastard wrote:..... I`ll give you a hint, Richard, bullets
just don`t impart a lot of energy on the body. It`s more akin to
stabbing a watermelon with an icepick, the energy is all on a small
point, and that point has the necessary energy to break through
resistance without disturbing the whole.
Obviously the guy that wrote this doesn't have a clue ........ It
would be a teue statement if he had written ... Full metal jacketed,
high velocity bullets just don`t impart a lot of energy on the body.
It`s more akin to stabbing a watermelon with an icepick, the energy is
all on a small point, and that point has the necessary energy to break
through resistance without disturbing the whole.
And since the authorities have claimed that the bullets that killed
JFK were FULL METAL JACKETED bullets then there is no way that the
Stupid Basatrd can reconcile the HUGE HOLE IN THE BACK of JFK's head
with his statement..... I'm sure that he will try to create some kind
of BS explanation but the fact is, he said that a bullet is like a ice
pick penetrating a watermelon. Perhaps he'll say that the icepick in
this case was 42 feet long, weighed 150 pounds, and had a tip about 3
inches in diameter........
> Here is some footage of a Nazi being executed by a firing squad.
> Even though he was shot by about twenty military rifles
> simultaneously, he isn`t thrown back, he slumps forward.
>
> http://www.lepak.tv/index.php?page=videos§ion=view&vid_id=103234
>
> That bullets have the ability to knock people down or back is a myth
> that was even busted on mythbusters.
>
> > BTW, Bud, Gil didn't ask you to cite a test, he asked for an actual case of
> > a murder where there was a jet effect. Can you?
>
> I did answer the question. The "jet effect" occurs whenever the
> conditions for it exist. It isn`t only in effect on Wednesdays. How
> many murders are filmed?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bud
I said that about the icepick, Walt, don`t drink and post. Sober up,
organize your thoughts and present them in a coherent manner. Are you
saying different types of ammunition would flatten out and these would
cause a body to be thrown violently?
Bud
No, it`s what I`ve come to expect from him when proven wrong about
his claims. He disappears, 6 months or a years later he will repeat
the same claims.
I presented this video over on the moderated to a CTer, and he said
the motion of the victim can be explained by ricochets off the
concrete hitting the guy on the other side of his head, driving it
towards the shooter. This is what happens when you challenge a retards
cherished beliefs, in desperation they will grasp at anything.
Walt
Hey Dud....Here's what I wrote in predicting how you would
rspond...."Perhaps he'll say that the icepick in this case was 42 feet
long, weighed 150 pounds, and had a tip about 3
inches in diameter........
I KNEW that you'd attempt to slither away like a maggot from the
sunshine......
You're now pretending that you don't know that there are soft nosed
bullets that flatten and expand on contact, or hollow point
projectiles that shatter on contact, or mercury filled projectilles
splatter into thousands of tiny pieces.......as well as projectiles
that have an explosive charge inside and explode on contact.
You made it perfectly clear that the bullet would have penetrated
JFK's head like an icepick in a watermelon........ But you forgot
that there was a huge hole in the BACK of JFK's head and no bullet
entering his skull, like an icepick in a watermelon, could have
produced that huge hole.
>
>
>
> > > Here is some footage of a Nazi being executed by a firing squad.
> > > Even though he was shot by about twenty military rifles
> > > simultaneously, he isn`t thrown back, he slumps forward.
>
> > > http://www.lepak.tv/index.php?page=videos§ion=view&vid_id=103234
>
> > > That bullets have the ability to knock people down or back is a myth
> > > that was even busted on mythbusters.
>
> > > > BTW, Bud, Gil didn't ask you to cite a test, he asked for an actual case of
> > > > a murder where there was a jet effect. Can you?
>
> > > I did answer the question. The "jet effect" occurs whenever the
> > > conditions for it exist. It isn`t only in effect on Wednesdays. How
> > > many murders are filmed?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Bud
> On Jan 3, 9:54 am,Bud<sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 3, 10:45 am, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>
I requested that you refine your point, it read like gooblygook. It
still does.
> You're now pretending that you don't know that there are soft nosed
> bullets that flatten and expand on contact, or hollow point
> projectiles that shatter on contact, or mercury filled projectilles
> splatter into thousands of tiny pieces.......as well as projectiles
> that have an explosive charge inside and explode on contact.
You are saying there is certain ammunition that could make Kennedy
react as he seen in the z-film if he was shot from the front? By all
means, support this claim. By "support", I don`t mean repeat the
claim, I mean link to some support for the claim.
> You made it perfectly clear that the bullet would have penetrated
> JFK's head like an icepick in a watermelon........ But you forgot
> that there was a huge hole in the BACK of JFK's head
Show it.
> and no bullet
> entering his skull, like an icepick in a watermelon, could have
> produced that huge hole.
>
>
>
> > > > Here is some footage of a Nazi being executed by a firing squad.
> > > > Even though he was shot by about twenty military rifles
> > > > simultaneously, he isn`t thrown back, he slumps forward.
>
> > > > http://www.lepak.tv/index.php?page=videos§ion=view&vid_id=103234
>
> > > > That bullets have the ability to knock people down or back is a myth
> > > > that was even busted on mythbusters.
>
> > > > > BTW,Bud, Gil didn't ask you to cite a test, he asked for an actual case of