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Robert Caprio

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May 24, 2013, 12:12:09 PM5/24/13
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[b]The WC would claim Jack Ruby entered the Dallas Police Department
(DPD) garage via the Main St. ramp, but like almost every other claim
they made they would NOT support it with evidence. Furthermore, the
ONLY officer assigned to the ramp area, Roy Vaughn, said he NEVER saw
Jack Ruby enter the ramp. Over the years WC defenders have argued
that he simply missed Ruby walking by him, but as you will from
testimony the ramp was ONLY 12-15’ wide!

This means Vaughn would have had very bad eyesight NOT to see him, and
this is precluded by the fact they assigned him this task. The WC
itself would have to use the term “probably” as they could NEVER show
he did, and the HSCA would write the same thing, but just in the
OPPOSITE way (he probably did NOT come down the ramp). Let’s look at
this issue more closely.[/b]

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[b]The first issue never resolved was that Jack Ruby entered the
basement at 11:20 a.m., and yet the transfer was announced on all
radio and television stations to be occurring at 10:00 a.m. How did
Ruby expect to shoot LHO by coming in an hour and twenty minutes AFTER
the transfer time? Was this just another coincidence or splendid luck
on Ruby's part? Why did he NOT get there by 10:00 a.m. if he was
really intent on killing LHO to spare Jackie from a nasty trial?
Detective Jim Leavelle was handcuffed to Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) and
he would tell researcher Jim Marrs that he never understood the nearly
one-hour delay in transferring LHO.

Again, the fact Ruby was so late and LHO was still ready for him has
lead many to surmise they were holding the transfer up UNTIL Ruby
showed up. We also have that car honk just before Ruby moved in for
the kill. This has been posited for years as the signal to bring LHO
out.

The Warren Commission (WC) declared Ruby "probably" entered via the
Main St. ramp despite the only officer stationed there, Officer
Vaughn, denying he passed him. The WC continued to speculate by
saying Ruby walked down the ramp into a supposedly cleared area, it
was NOT, as it was very crowded. (XIII, 7) The transfer car was to
have been in place; it was NOT. (WCR, 230) A corridor of police
officers was to have shielded the prisoner; there was no such corridor
in place. (WCR, 213, 229-230) A 'high sign' was to be given ONLY if
all was in order; it was given despite NOTHING being in order. (XIII,
17; WCR, 230) The police officers guarding LHO should have been
briefed regarding the death threats against him, but they never were.
(XIII, 5, 26-27) Ruby was thus NOT obstructed by a car, a corridor of
officers, or officers alerted to the fact there had been death threats
made against LHO, and just fired away into the abdomen of LHO.

Was Ruby aided, or was it just a case of total ineptness on the part
of the DPD? Since he was an hour and 20 minutes late, did Ruby arrive
by pre-arrangement or by chance? Of course the WC favored "chance."
Sgt. Patrick Dean of the DPD said Ruby told him two nights before the
shooting he planned on gunning down LHO. (V, 257) If this killing was
premeditated could Ruby have pulled it off without the help of the
DPD? Furthermore, why did Dean NOT report this threat to his
superiors? Why was he NOT held accountable for the failure to do so?

Dean, who was in charge of the security detail during the LHO
transfer , would also give crucial evidence against Jack Ruby, but
remained close friends with him. Dean would claim that Ruby told him
a few minutes after shooting LHO that he, Ruby, had been planning to
do it. [Obviously since he told Dean a few nights before he planned on
doing it and Dean did NOTHING despite being in charge of the security
detail for the transfer!]

WC counsel Griffin acted as if he did NOT believe this, and said he
felt Dean was lying. Part of his reasoning was due to the fact it was
shown Dean was NOT alone with Ruby for some time after the shooting,
thus it would have been impossible for others NOT to have heard this
confession as well. But this was accepted by the court and eventually
it would be overturned on appeal.

Dean was the "author" of the lie that Ruby came down the Main St. ramp
past Roy Vaughn and into the basement. There is NO evidence that this
is what happened, in fact Officer Vaughn passed THREE lie detector
tests on this topic while Dean FAILED his -- and he was allowed to
write HIS OWN QUESTIONS TOO according to JFK researcher Anthony
Summers!

Lt. Jack Revill was part of a task force that was assigned to look
into the shooting of LHO by Ruby. The others on the committee were:
Inspector Herbert Sawyer, Captain Westbrook, Capt. O.A. Jones, a Lt.
Paul McCaghren, Lt. Frank Cornwall, Lt. Cecil Wallace, and initially a
detective, one of the subordinates in the intelligence unit, H.M.
Hart. Here is what he would tell the WC during his testimony regarding
what Ruby told him about how he entered the basement:[/b]

Mr. HUBERT. Will you tell us about what happened?

Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, sir; Lieutenant Cornwall and I, after
interviewing all these people, trying to determine how Ruby got into
the basement, decided that the best thing was to talk to Ruby himself,
so, we finally got clearance to go talk to him and we did. and----

Mr. HUBERT. Now, by that time you had already heard from the press
that he had said that he had come through the Main Street ramp?

Lieutenant REVILL. Something to the effect that, "You may not believe
me, but I walked down the ramp." Anyway at the interview, Ruby was
there with Cornwall and I, and this unknown jailer, and he refused to
disclose how he gained access into the basement stating that this is a
part of his defense, so, we then had Sheriff Decker call Tom Howard,
who was representing Ruby at that time as a legal counsel. Mr. Howard
came to the jail and was present throughout the interview…

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Mr. HUBERT. [color=blue][b]Did you ask him specifically whether the
story in the press, that he had come through the Main Street entrance,
was correct or not correct?[/b][/color]

Lieutenant REVILL. [color=red][b]Yes, sir; I asked him this, and he
refused to discuss it. He said that he did not want to get anyone in
trouble.[/b][/color]

Mr. HUBERT. Did you pursue that?

Lieutenant REVILL. Yes; I did. [color=red][b]I was assigned to this
committee to find out what happened, and I really wasn't concerned who
we got in trouble, because if someone was wrong, then they suffer the
consequences [/b][/color]and I asked him about officers by name who
were present in the basement, if they had seen him or talked to him,
and he wouldn't discuss it. Knowing Jack Ruby, Jack Ruby is the type
of individual that can't be anywhere for a period of time without
talking to someone.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you mention to him specifically Roy Vaughn's name?

Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, sir; the officer----

Mr. HUBERT. At the Main Street exit?

Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. HUBERT. He made no comment?

Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; he wouldn't discuss this.


[b]So we see in this snippet Ruby would NOT confirm or deny that he
came down the ramp for “fear of getting into trouble”! How much more
trouble could he get in since he was charged with MURDER? It seems he
may have been afraid of something worse. What was it?

Revill would continue and say that he did NOT ask Dean about the
statement he made regarding Ruby coming in the Main St. ramp.[/b]

Mr. HUBERT. In your discussion with Dean, [color=blue][b]do you recall
whether he stated to you how he found out about Ruby's alleged entry
through the Main Street ramp ?[/b][/color]

Lieutenant REVILL. [color=red][b]No, sir; I do not.[/b][/color]


[b]Why not? Didn’t he just testify to being “…assigned to this
committee to find out what happened, and I really wasn't concerned who
we got in trouble, because if someone was wrong, then they suffer the
consequences…?” It seems this statement was NOT true since he did NOT
force Dean to tell him how he knew Ruby entered via the Main St. ramp
as he claimed.

The WC would try and find someone to say they saw Ruby coming down the
ramp, but to NO avail.[/b]

Mr. HUBERT. [color=blue][b]Do you know the reserve officer by the name
of Holly?[/b][/color]

Lieutenant REVEL. Holly? Yes, sir; I talked to Mr. Holly.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you recall the nature of the conversation?

Lieutenant REVILL Yes, sir; I do.

Lieutenant REVILL. Yes; and they are filed alphabetically. Ordinarily
I can find it probably easier this way. Holly, yes, [color=red]
[b]Holly was interviewed and he stated that he had been assigned to a
traffic corner and after the shooting occurred he was reassigned to
Parkland Hospital, and that while there some unknown police reservist
told him that he had observed, or admitted Ruby into the basement of
the city hall, and that Ruby had presented press credentials.[/b][/
color]

Mr. HUBERT. Well.----

Lieutenant REVILL. Well, what we did, we have photographs of all of
the police reserve, and Holly could not identify anyone as being this
officer, or reserve officer.

Mr. HUBERT. Where did this take place, that is to say, where was Holly
shown these pictures?

Lieutenant REVILL. In the city hall, in the special services bureau.

[b]Who was this “police reservist” who told Holly that had seen Ruby
come down the ramp? We don’t know yet since Holly could NOT ID the
person he spoke with. Look at this.[/b]

Mr. HUBERT. That this reserve officer told him?

Lieutenant REVILL That he had seen Ruby in the basement of the city
hall, and that Ruby had presented press credentials to someone in the
basement of the city hall. We were never able to locate this reserve
officer.

Mr. HUBERT. [color=blue][b]Did Holly tell you that a reserve officer,
possibly the same one, possibly another, had told him that he had seen
Ruby coming down the ramp, Main Street ramp, and just about a minute
before the shooting?[/b][/color]

Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; Holly did not say that to me. I found a
reserve officer who was present in the basement of the city hall who
saw some individual coming down the ramp, the Main Street ramp.
[color=red][u][b]He could not identify this person as being Ruby.[/b][/
u][/color] As you said, approximately a minute or minute and a half
after the shooting--I mean, prior to the shooting. Have you got a----

[b]We now have two questions that need answering. Firstly, who was
this alleged reserve officer who told Holly that he had seen Ruby
enter the basement via the ramp? Secondly, who was this alleged person
that was seen coming down the ramp since he could NOT be ID as Jack
Ruby? It turns out it was an Officer Newman who saw a person come down
the ramp.[/b]

Mr. HUBERT. [color=blue][b]Did you interview Newman?[/b][/color]

Lieutenant REVILL. Yes; I did.

Mr. HUBERT. [color=blue][b]Newman said that he had not recognized Jack
Ruby?[/b][/color]

Lieutenant REVILL. [color=red][b]Yes; he did not recognize the man
coming down the ramp,[/b][/color] and the distance involved, I can
readily see why he could not identify him.

[b]Again, who was this person then? Ruby was already in the building
in all likelihood as he probably came into the basement another way
with help of Asst. Chief Batchelor. This is confirmed by multiple
sources. Gary Shaw wrote in "Cover-up", "...no less than the
Assistant Chief of Police was recruited to personally escort Jack Ruby
into the Dallas Police Station basement to kill Oswald." This was
learned during the suit issued by Officer Roy Vaughn's lawyer as he
has been trying to clear his name for years as the man who allowed
Ruby into the basement. Several Officers gave affidavits stating it
was Batchelor who escorted in Ruby.

Harrison Livingstone talked with Vaughn's attorney, James Neill, about
this and he said based on the evidence they have Ruby never passed
Vaughn on the ramp and was escorted in by Batchelor. Beyond the
affadavits they have the fact Vaughn PASSED THREE lie detector tests
confirming his claim he NEVER saw Ruby enter the basement via the
ramp.

The original source of the Batchleor story was Red Davis of the DPD,
who would state to Vaughn, after he passed the lie detector test,
"God, you shouldn't even have to do that" and told him that Batchelor
took Ruby in via the elevator.

Batchelor was in charge of security precautions for two important
events, the motorcade on 11/22/63 and the transfer of LHO on 11/24/63,
and he FAILED on both causing the death of both of his charges. One
would think this guy would have been run out of town on a rail, AFTER
being tarred and feathered! Instead he would become the Chief of
Police later on. We saw a continual pattern of this. Instead of
being penalized for failing in their duty we see those responsible
for the security of JFK and LHO being PROMOTED after both of their
charges were killed! This could lead one to believe the death of these
two men was the GOAL instead of misfortune.

Given the fact he was an hour and twenty minutes late and faced no
impediments in his entrance to the basement, it is quite clear to me
he had some assistance from somewhere. The DPD, and Batchelor, are
the most likely simply because they were the ones providing the
security.

Joe Tonahill, one of Ruby's defense lawyers at the his trial, reminded
everyone that the announcement had been for 10:00 a.m. (the transfer)
and that Ruby was seen at the Western Union as late as 11:17 a.m.
Tonahill then described Ruby's murder of LHO as "probably the greatest
coincidence in the history of the world." He finally presented an
alternate explanation to the jury:[/b]

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I know come to the point of this great, [color=red][u][b]great burden
the State has to prove there is malice in the mind of Jack Ruby. The
State has the burden to prove to you that there was a conspiracy in
the police department with Jack Ruby.[/b][/u][/color] (State v. Jack
Rubenstein, alias Jack Ruby, Dallas, March, 13, 1964.)

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[b]He did this to make a case of malicious murder harder to prove, as
the state would have to "prove that somebody tipped Jack Ruby off and
set premeditation in force. And that is what a conspiracy is." He was
saying in effect that if they jury found Ruby guilty of malicious
murder they would have to find the DPD guilty as well, of course this
did NOT happen, they found Ruby guilty of malicious murder with NO
assistance at all.

Based on the delay in the transfer and all the issues surrounding it,
the clear point to me is this was prearranged and the DPD allowed it
to happen to help avoid a trial that would have aired a lot of dirty
laundry. Just too much luck and coincidences in the official theory
for me to believe it all.

Who was in the basement when Jack Ruby entered it? There were 40 to 50
newsmen and cameramen and some of them knew Ruby. There were also 70
to 75 policemen there, and again, many of them knew Ruby. The WC
thought it was "appropriate to consider whether there is evidence that
Jack Ruby received assistance from Dallas policemen or others in
gaining access to the basement on the morning of November 24. An
affirmative answer would require that the evidence be evaluated for
possible connection to the assassination itself." (WCR 219)

Why could the WC not reach a positive conclusion when they themselves
said, "Dallas officials, particularly those from the police
department, have fully complied with all requests by the
Commission?" (WCR xi) It instead relied on speculation that Ruby
"probably" walked down the ramp into the basement. This would be
horrible police work in a normal case, but when the president has been
killed this is treasonous, as they had a duty to find out the truth,
but they decided it was easier to NOT find out what really happened.

A witness that corroborated Vaughn’s claim of NOT seeing or allowing
Jack Ruby entrance to the garage via the ramp was former Dallas Police
Officer Napoleon Daniels.[/b]

Mr. HUBERT. Now, I know you have already made a statement to the FBI,
as a matter of fact, I think you have made two statements, one to the
State police--[color=blue][b]I would now just like for you to tell us
what you know of entry of Jack Ruby into the basement?[/b][/color]

Mr. DANIELS. [color=red][b]Well, actually, I don't feel like I really
know anything, but I saw a guy go in the basement, [u]but I don't
think it was Ruby.[/u][/b][/color]

[b]The rest is a waste of time and paper as the WC would spend pages
and pages of testimony going over in minute detail where he was
standing and what he was doing, BUT the name Ruby NEVER appears again
in his testimony. Once they heard this statement—I don’t think it was
Ruby—they began to play a game.

There are two more good witnesses that said Ruby DID NOT enter via the
Main St. ramp. The first it UPI newsman Terrance McGarry, who said he
was standing at the base of the ramp for at least 5 minutes leading up
to the shooting and he DID NOT see Ruby come down the ramp and pass
him. The right-hand columns have the pertinent info. Here is his FBI/
WC affidavit (12/4/63):

[url=http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/html/
WH_Vol24_0...]http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/
html/WH_Vol24_0...[/url]

The other witness was Harry Tasker, a cab driver, was there to pickup
a customer. He said he was there about an hour before the shooting
and was near the Main St. ramp the whole time, he did NOT leave at all
according to his testimony. He saw the officer stationed at the ramp,
in uniform, but said he did not know him by name. He said he was only
7 or 8 feet away from the mouth of the entrance and he said here were
at least 50 people on either side of it. He was asked if the police
officer was having any troubles with a crowd so large and he said,
"Well, yes, he had a little difficulty now and then. Somebody would
try and slip by him and he would hail them and bring them back out."
This happened more than once, so often in fact, Tasker lost count. So
it seems officer Vaughn was paying attention despite what the WC
claimed. (Vol. XV, 681)

When asked how they would slip by Tasker said "Well, he was probably
looking at something on this side and somebody didn't know he was on
guard there and walked on down there." He also mentions a car going
IN, something the WC doesn't mention in their report. He says it went
in about 15-20 minutes before the shooting. It was a police squad car
with two officers and a person in civilian clothes. He testified that
he did not know Jack Ruby (Officer Daniels either), but of course he
had seen his picture by then. (XV, 682) When asked if he saw Jack Ruby
enter the Main St. ramp entrance Tasker said, "No, sir; I have never
remembered seeing that man coming up, walking, riding or anything
else." He replied "No" when asked if he saw him coming up Main St.
from the Western Union. (XV, 683)

So, in addition to Officer Daniels we have two more witnesses that
never saw Ruby come down the Main St. ramp.

We also have this comment from Detective Leavelle that states he
offered an ALTERNATE route to take LHO out from, but it was IGNORED.[/
b]

Mr. HUBERT. The car was not pulled back because pulling it back would
block the----

Mr. LEAVELLE. That, I don't know. [color=red]Of course, you are--
according to one of my previous reports I earlier suggested to Captain
Fritz that we make the suggestion to the chief that we take him out to
the first floor and put him out at Main Street to a car and proceed to
the county jail that way and leave them waiting in the basement and on
Commerce Street, and we could be to the county jail before anyone knew
what was taking place.[/color]

Mr. HUBERT. What time did you make that suggestion, sir?

Mr. LEAVELLE. That was either just before or just after--probably just
after I had gone there and got Oswald and we were talking about the
transfer.

Mr. HUBERT. Who did you make that suggestion to?

Mr. LEAVELLE. I made it to Captain Fritz.

Mr. HUBERT. What answer did you receive from him?

Mr. LEAVELLE. [color=red][b]Said he didn't think the chief would go
for it.[/b][/color]

[b]So much for worrying about the safety of your prisoner, huh? The
Chief wouldn’t go for it supposedly because he had promised the media
some shots of the prisoner. Good one.

Now, lets discuss the man who was responsible for the ramp and its
security. Officer Vaughn was stationed on the ramp and he said he did
NOT see Ruby trying to go down, or actually going down the ramp. He
testified to having met Ruby before too so he would know what he
looked like![/b]

Mr. HUBERT. Did you know Jack Ruby at all prior to this occasion?

Mr. VAUGHN. Well, I had met Mr. Ruby prior to this time, Mr. Hubert.

Mr. HUBERT. How many times would you say?

Mr. VAUGHN. I would say two or three times to be at the most.

[b]Here is the important part about the width of the ramp. People
like Bill Brown argue he could have missed him when the ramp was so
NARROW, but then argue that FIFTY SIX FEET (Callaway) and FIFTY FEET
(Wes Frazier) is NOT that far off to see things when they NAIL LHO!
LOL! Oh the hypocrisy of it all.[/b]

Mr. HUBERT. The ramp is about how many feet wide?

Mr. VAUGHN. [color=red]I would just have to estimate it--I would say
it was 12 to 15 feet.[/color]

Mr. HUBERT. And you were standing more or less in the middle?

Mr. VAUGHN. In the middle.

Mr. HUBERT. And that was about from 9:30 on?

Mr. VAUGHN. Yes.

[b]WC defenders have tried to argue that when the car driven by Lt.
Pierce came out someone could have slipped in, but Vaughn nixed that
too.[/b]

Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever leave that post?

Mr. VAUGHN. The only time when I ever moved out of my position there
was when this car which was driven by Lieutenant Pierce exited by that
ramp.

Mr. HUBERT. [color=blue]What steps did you take to maintain the
security of your post[/color] while you were talking to such people so
that other people wouldn't sneak through?

Mr. VAUGHN. [color=red]I was still standing in the middle of the ramp.
[/color]

Mr. HUBERT. [color=blue]It would be impossible, you think, for anybody
to pass on either side of you?[/color]

Mr. VAUGHN. [color=red]That's right--without seeing them. [/color]

Mr. HUBERT. Now, coming to the time when the automobile passed
through, tell us what you know about that?

Mr. VAUGHN. Well, I would say it was approximately a quarter or a
little past--about 18 minutes past 11, somewhere around there I
wouldn't be exact on the time.

Mr. HUBERT. How do you fix that time?

Mr. VAUGHN. Well, they established, I think, that the shooting
occurred at 11:21 and I'm just judging by the minutes before.

Mr. HUBERT. Let's do it this way. [color=blue]How long before you
heard the shot did that car driven by Rio Pierce pass by you?[/color]

Mr. VAUGHN. [color=red]I would say not over 3 minutes. [/color]

[b]How convenient that this happened so close to the shooting! The WC
will specifically ask if he sees anyone coming in after the the car,
but did not ask if it was possible anyone could have gone in when the
car was coming out right away. [/b]

Mr. HUBERT. Is it fair to say, then, that after you got back to your
post, following the exit of Rio Pierce's car, that nobody passed you?

Mr. VAUGHN. Nobody passed me.

Mr. HUBERT. Specifically, did Jack Ruby pass you?

Mr. VAUGHN. No, sir.

[b]Finally they ask the important question.[/b]

Mr. HUBERT. Now, when the Rio Pierce car was coming out. what steps or
action did you take to maintain the security of your post while that
car was passing through?

Mr. VAUGHN. The only steps, like I said, Mr. Hubert, on that--is when
I stepped out onto the sidewalks--why--I made sure that my view of the
entrance of the city hall was not completely blocked, that I could
still see the entrance to the right.

Mr. HUBERT. You use the words "completely blocked," do you mean to
infer by that it could have been partially blocked?

Mr. VAUGHN. No, sir; the only thing--when I stepped out, as the car
came out, I still had a view of the actual entrance to the ramp.

Mr. HUBERT. [color=blue]Would it have been possible that part of your
view was blocked by the automobile itself?[/color]

Mr. VAUGHN. [color=red]It possibly--for an instant while the car was
coming out[/color]--actually out of the entrance but after it cleared
the ramp---no, sir.

[b]The possibility Ruby slipped in this way exists, but it would seem
he would have to be very quick on his feet IF the car cleared out as
fast as Vaughn said it did. Vaughn passed the lie dectector test
three times too![/b]

[b]I think Vaughn's testimony shows us Ruby did not get in via the
Main St. Ramp. Even the HSCA would say this:[/b]

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…Ruby probably did NOT come down the ramp, and that his most LIKELY
route was an alleyway located next to the Dallas Municipal Building
and to a stairway leading to basement garage of police headquarters.
(emphasis mine)

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[b]More from the HSCA:[/b]

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…Ruby’s shooting of Oswald was NOT a spontaneous act in that it
involved at least some premeditation. Similarly, the committee
believed it was less likely that Ruby entered the police basement
WITHOUT assistance, even though the assistance may have been provided
with no knowledge of Ruby’s intentions…The Committee was troubled by
the apparently UNLOCKED doors along stairway route and the REMOVAL of
security guards from the area of the garage nearest the stairway
shortly before the shooting,…There is also evidence that the Dallas
Police Department WITHELD relevant information from the Warren
Commission concerning Ruby’s entry to the scene of Oswald’s transfer…
(emphasis mine)

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[b]We see here the HSCA found evidence of complicity in Ruby’s
entrance to the garage. They also found the DPD GUILTY of withholding
information from the WC. The ONLY reason they would do this is to
protect and hide something that was NOT good. Finally, let’s ask the
man who got into the basement. Ruby would say this to the WC about
the event:[/b]

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…who else could have time it so perfectly by seconds. If it were timed
that way, then someone in the police department is GUILTY of giving
the information as to when Lee Harvey Oswald was coming down.
(emphasis mine)

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[b]I think this sums it up perfectly. While the WC was weak in
proclaiming he came down the ramp, they still claimed it nonetheless.
And again, we see their claim is sunk.[/b]

Portions of this came from Jim Marrs’ book, [i]Crossfire: The Plot
That Killed Kennedy[/i], page 420

Robert Caprio

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May 24, 2013, 12:20:22 PM5/24/13
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I should point out that researcher Walt Brown went to Dallas and
measured the ramp and found it was ONLY nine feet by eleven inches! So
even this claim is not right in the twenty-six volumes!

tommyo...@gmail.com

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> came to the jail and was present throughout the interview...
> [b]Why not? Didn't he just testify to being "...assigned to this
>
> committee to find out what happened, and I really wasn't concerned who
>
> we got in trouble, because if someone was wrong, then they suffer the
>
> consequences...?" It seems this statement was NOT true since he did NOT
> in his testimony. Once they heard this statement--I don't think it was
>
> Ruby--they began to play a game.
> ...Ruby probably did NOT come down the ramp, and that his most LIKELY
>
> route was an alleyway located next to the Dallas Municipal Building
>
> and to a stairway leading to basement garage of police headquarters.
>
> (emphasis mine)
>
>
>
> Quote off
>
>
>
> [b]More from the HSCA:[/b]
>
>
>
> Quote on
>
>
>
> ...Ruby's shooting of Oswald was NOT a spontaneous act in that it
>
> involved at least some premeditation. Similarly, the committee
>
> believed it was less likely that Ruby entered the police basement
>
> WITHOUT assistance, even though the assistance may have been provided
>
> with no knowledge of Ruby's intentions...The Committee was troubled by
>
> the apparently UNLOCKED doors along stairway route and the REMOVAL of
>
> security guards from the area of the garage nearest the stairway
>
> shortly before the shooting,...There is also evidence that the Dallas
>
> Police Department WITHELD relevant information from the Warren
>
> Commission concerning Ruby's entry to the scene of Oswald's transfer...
>
> (emphasis mine)
>
>
>
> Quote off
>
>
>
> [b]We see here the HSCA found evidence of complicity in Ruby's
>
> entrance to the garage. They also found the DPD GUILTY of withholding
>
> information from the WC. The ONLY reason they would do this is to
>
> protect and hide something that was NOT good. Finally, let's ask the
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> man who got into the basement. Ruby would say this to the WC about
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> the event:[/b]
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> Quote on
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> ...who else could have time it so perfectly by seconds. If it were timed
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> that way, then someone in the police department is GUILTY of giving
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> the information as to when Lee Harvey Oswald was coming down.
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> (emphasis mine)
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> Quote off
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> [b]I think this sums it up perfectly. While the WC was weak in
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> proclaiming he came down the ramp, they still claimed it nonetheless.
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> And again, we see their claim is sunk.[/b]
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> Portions of this came from Jim Marrs' book, [i]Crossfire: The Plot
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> That Killed Kennedy[/i], page 420

If you will carefully re-read WCH Volume V, page 257 you will realize that Patrick Dean did not say Jack Ruby told him two days before he shot Oswald that going to try to kill Oswald. What Dean really said was that Ruby told him on 11/24/63 that HE HAD DECIDED TWO DAYS EARLIER to try to kill Oswald.

--Tommy
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