Re: Lights out and questions
tomnln
"Jean Davison" <walter.jeff...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> Jean Davison wrote:
>>> "Jim Shannon" <ejims...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>>>> "Ricky" <Ric...@att.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> On 14 May 2006 00:07:24 -0400, "Jim Shannon" <ejims...@shaw.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been looking into the TSBD lights out issue. I don't know the
>>>>>> TSBD
>>>>>> switchboard operators name but that person said shortly after the
>>>>>> assassination that power to the building went out for a few minutes.
>>>>>> From
>>>>>> my reading there were no other reports of power outages in Dallas
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> afternoon. This only lasted for a few minutes. Then the power was
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> and off for a few seconds before it was restored. Now consider this,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I'm sure this has been mentioned here before, but if the power went
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> and assuming Oswald killed JFK and made it to the 2nd floor lunch
>>>>>> room,
>>>>>> how could he get passed the automatic vestibule door, much less buy a
>>>>>> Coke
>>>>>> in the pop machine if there was no power to the building?
>>>>> Many old coke machines were manually operated to dispense the cokes.
>>>>> Coins in equal open lever and pull out bottle. Power off simply
>>>>> turned off the cooler. Did the vestibule have an automatic door? In
>>>>> 1963 they would have been powered by a pressure mat on the floor or a
>>>>> door button. Not many buildings had them. In any event all such
>>>>> doors have a manual override if not actually locked by a dead bolt.
>>>>> Simply pus and they open.
>>>> Yes... I recall the flat-bed type coolers filled with cold water. You
>>>> had
>>>> to take the Coke bottle from the top of the neck and run it between
>>>> metal
>>>> bars to get it out. The reason why I thought the pop machine ran on
>>>> power
>>>> was because it served the two sizes.of pop. Coke tasted better in those
>>>> days when it was in glass bottles. I think Coke stopped using glass
>>>> about
>>>> 1985.
>>>> As for the automatic door in the vestibule Oswald would have to walk to
>>>> the back of the lunchroom to get his Coke, taking even more time off
>>>> the
>>>> clock.
>>>
>>> It was an upright Coke machine, seen here (scroll down):
>>>
>>> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0121a.htm
>>>
>>> Oswald had more than enough time to get a Coke, but both Baker
>>> and
>>> Truly testified that he had nothing in his hands when they saw him.
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>
>> Yes, we know what their testimonies were. But we are also interested in
>> what they first said. Sometimes the earliest statements are the most
>> revealing, because no one has gotten to the witness to tell him what to
>> say and what not to say. Baker did not know any better than to say that
>> Oswald had a Coke in his hand. No one had yet told him that is a no-no.
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> Baker's first statement said nothing whatsoever about a Coke.
> You're accusing Baker of perjuring himself because somebody told him to,
> when there's no evidence for that, either. But who's surprised? Some CTs
> routinely malign anybody who fingered the perp, Oswald.
CORRECT JEAN;
Baker's First story said he saw Oswald "Walking away from the stairs".
NOTHING about the Lunchroom. (see attached report)+
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> It's a "no-no" to mention the Coke only in the minds of some
> conspiracy theorists, who think it matters. It doesn't. The idea that
> anyone would suborn perjury over this is absurd.
>
> Jean
WRONG JEAN;
The coke is mentioned in Baker's SECOND report. It was also mentioned in
Fritz's Notes.
So, it MUST be Important.
Suborning perjury runs Rampant in this case WHY surprised Now?
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Anthony Marsh
Thank you for trying to help Jean out of this corner she painted herself
into. So, maybe it was Fritz who wrote Baker's statement? Or maybe it
was Fritz who was standing behind Baker and the guy writing it down
heard Fritz say Coke bottle and mistakenly thought it was Baker who said
it? I know there must be some way for Jean to extricate herself from
this mess.