Spectacular overcharge by BTO.
R. Mark Clayton
by direct debit rather than by continuing credit card authority, or through
the phone bill (as with previous surftime).
Within a week they have issued a claim notice for £190.77p, with only one
working day's notice before they loot my account, although at least I can
cancel the DD at my bank.
It is supposed to be fixed sub of £15.99p per month (inc. VAT), and no I did
not order a year up front!
A very confused tubbie promised they would ring back - not before they have
the money I bet.
Whatever you do DON'T give a CCCA to BT or its spawn!
R. Mark Clayton
R. Mark Clayton
"R. Mark Clayton" <MCla...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:b4teqp$i35$1...@sparta.btinternet.com...
snip
>
> Within a week they have issued a claim notice for £190.77p, with only one
> working day's notice before they loot my account, although at least I can
> cancel the DD at my bank.
>
> It is supposed to be fixed sub of £15.99p per month (inc. VAT), and no I
did
> not order a year up front!
> Whatever you do DON'T give a CCCA to BT or its spawn!
>
>
Well on the phone they said it was a mistake.
Then late on Monday they sent an email saying they would take £190.77p the
following day. More phone calls.
Still nothing in writing to say it was wrong, but then snail mail brought a
paper bill for that amount. They had charged for surftime (already paid
through the phone bill) from November 2000 to November 2002!
Mogga
<MCla...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Within a week they have issued a claim notice for £190.77p, with only one
>> working day's notice before they loot my account, although at least I can
>> cancel the DD at my bank.
>>
>> It is supposed to be fixed sub of £15.99p per month (inc. VAT), and no I
>did
>> not order a year up front!
>snip
>> Whatever you do DON'T give a CCCA to BT or its spawn!
>>
>>
>
>Well on the phone they said it was a mistake.
>
>Then late on Monday they sent an email saying they would take £190.77p the
>following day. More phone calls.
>
>Still nothing in writing to say it was wrong, but then snail mail brought a
>paper bill for that amount. They had charged for surftime (already paid
>through the phone bill) from November 2000 to November 2002!
>
>
>
You are really better off without them.
--
Freebies in the UK
http://www.freebiesnetwork.co.uk
R. Mark Clayton
"Mogga" <di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote in message
news:dlfn7vk9h3qevo2e1...@4ax.com...
I know, but it is a bit of a case of out of the frying pan and into the
fire!
Mogga
<MCla...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> >following day. More phone calls.
>> >
>> >Still nothing in writing to say it was wrong, but then snail mail brought
>a
>> >paper bill for that amount. They had charged for surftime (already paid
>> >through the phone bill) from November 2000 to November 2002!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> You are really better off without them.
>
>I know, but it is a bit of a case of out of the frying pan and into the
>fire!
>
Nah surely not.
To be honest if the only choice of internet access you have is
BTi/o/whatever then you're probably better off without.
Smurftime was more open to problems than most other stupid ideas
there've been about net access. There are probably loads of people
still paying for it and not knowing what they got for it.
R. Mark Clayton
"Mogga" <di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote in message
snip
> Nah surely not.
> To be honest if the only choice of internet access you have is
> BTi/o/whatever then you're probably better off without.
Could go satellite, but still a little financially flaky.
Could go ADSL (but currently ISDN, so expensive).
Can't go NTL as I am on a private road.
Mogga
<MCla...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>"Mogga" <di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote in message
>
>snip
>
>> Nah surely not.
>> To be honest if the only choice of internet access you have is
>> BTi/o/whatever then you're probably better off without.
>
>Could go satellite, but still a little financially flaky.
>
And its dodgy as bti/o on a bad day.
>Could go ADSL (but currently ISDN, so expensive).
>
Expensive to swap?
>Can't go NTL as I am on a private road.
>
We've not got ntl, so I can sympathise there. Do you get their junk
mail spam inviting you to have broadband?
Surely bti isn't your only option as isp.
R. Mark Clayton
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 01:11:37 +0000 (UTC), "R. Mark Clayton"
> <MCla...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mogga" <di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote in message
> >
> >snip
> >
> >> Nah surely not.
> >> To be honest if the only choice of internet access you have is
> >> BTi/o/whatever then you're probably better off without.
> >
> >Could go satellite, but still a little financially flaky.
> >
>
> And its dodgy as bti/o on a bad day.
>
> >Could go ADSL (but currently ISDN, so expensive).
> >
>
> Expensive to swap?
Yes - you have to pay to go back to anaolog and then again to go to ADSL.
In my particular case we have multiple numbers arrayed on the ISDN so it
would mean ordering extra lines.
>
> >Can't go NTL as I am on a private road.
> >
>
> We've not got ntl, so I can sympathise there. Do you get their junk
> mail spam inviting you to have broadband?
No - phew!
>
> Surely bti isn't your only option as isp.
No, but it is a big hassle to advise all my contacts, for what might be a
short term gain.
>
> --
> Freebies in the UK
> http://www.freebiesnetwork.co.uk
BTW BT have finally admitted their error in writing (email) after ten days.
DP
>R. Mark Clayton scribbled .....
>
>
>> No, but it is a big hassle to advise all my contacts, for what might be a
>> short term gain.
>
>
>How do people get stuck in this cycle of "my email address is with BT
>and I can't afford to change it" ?
>
>FFS - ignoring shite like Hotmail and other web based rubbish - there
>are many other free (and even pay) pay email services that allow users
>to be completely independant of any ISP for mail.
Exactly. This question's always cropping up. I wouldn't bother with a
freebie though. Bigfoot's freebie now severely restricts your mail -
to 25 a day - and they chuck away any excess. That sucks a great deal
if you get a lot of spam or your friends keep sending you viruses. I
imagine other freebies will go the same way.
But it's no great expense to register a domain or two is it? Most
outfits give you free forwarding of e-mail and your Web URL - or you
can fork out another few quid and get it all hosted cleanly. (CGI and
SSI in your Web pages - bliss!) And assuming you have an address book
in your e-mail client, you can just tell EVERYONE - and then keep your
BTi address alive on PAYG to catch stragglers until you get bored with
it. Been through all this before, haven't we? No need to dial-up, just
POP3 your incoming BTi mail. Dial in once when they bitch about you
not using the account.
DP
>I have 4 freebies - each with stmp access - no farting around with
>webmail or even dialing in.
I wasn't meaning ISP's, I just meant forwarding/redirecting services
like bigfoot.
...
>You should turn that advice into a sig/faq.
The aipub charter does allow for a FAQ. Had precisely zero votes on it
when I mooted the subject. So if you're volunteering to be the AIPUB
FAQMeister... :) Might stick it on my home page though and just refer
peeps to it.
Mogga
>The aipub charter does allow for a FAQ. Had precisely zero votes on it
>when I mooted the subject. So if you're volunteering to be the AIPUB
>FAQMeister... :) Might stick it on my home page though and just refer
>peeps to it.
>
>
But what are the FAQ?
Q: Are BT really that bad?
A: Yes
Q: Is Mogga's hair really that wild
A: only on Tuesdays
Q: Are the hamsters on full rations?
A: Probably not.
Mogga
>DP scribbled .....
>
>
>> The aipub charter does allow for a FAQ. Had precisely zero votes on it
>> when I mooted the subject. So if you're volunteering to be the AIPUB
>> FAQMeister... :) Might stick it on my home page though and just refer
>> peeps to it.
>
>
>No point. You might disappear for again.
Don't say that!
It'll tempt fate you know.
DP
>DP scribbled .....
>
>
>> The aipub charter does allow for a FAQ. Had precisely zero votes on it
>> when I mooted the subject. So if you're volunteering to be the AIPUB
>> FAQMeister... :) Might stick it on my home page though and just refer
>> peeps to it.
>
>
>No point. You might disappear for again.
Plenty of point. I don't actually disappear from the face of the earth
y'know. And the URL might even be useful to someone else.
Mogga
>On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:34:50 -0000, Far Canal <M...@Privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>No point. You might disappear for again.
>
>Plenty of point. I don't actually disappear from the face of the earth
oh thats *not* what the rumours say!
>y'know. And the URL might even be useful to someone else.
;-)
Yeah someoen else could always post it from time to time with a note
attached... "if found please return DP"
;-)
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 06:20:14 +0000, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:34:50 -0000, Far Canal <M...@Privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>No point. You might disappear for again.
>>
>>Plenty of point. I don't actually disappear from the face of the earth
>
>
>oh thats *not* what the rumours say!
>
>>y'know. And the URL might even be useful to someone else.
>
>;-)
>Yeah someoen else could always post it from time to time with a note
>attached... "if found please return DP"
>;-)
Good morning Mogz. You obviously slept well.
Mogga
>>oh thats *not* what the rumours say!
>>
>>>y'know. And the URL might even be useful to someone else.
>>
>>;-)
>>Yeah someoen else could always post it from time to time with a note
>>attached... "if found please return DP"
>>;-)
>
>Good morning Mogz. You obviously slept well.
Awww no one calls me Mogz... :)
yeah slept well, could have gone back for a nap though after the
school run but had a quick play on the guitar to wake the neighbours
up then got on with some work. And then ten minutes later I'd decided
I'd done enough ;-p
Have been playing nice all morning doing a bit of filing and putting
things nicely on shelves.
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:45:02 +0000, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>oh thats *not* what the rumours say!
>>>
>>>>y'know. And the URL might even be useful to someone else.
>>>
>>>;-)
>>>Yeah someoen else could always post it from time to time with a note
>>>attached... "if found please return DP"
>>>;-)
>>
>>Good morning Mogz. You obviously slept well.
>
>Awww no one calls me Mogz... :)
>
>yeah slept well, could have gone back for a nap though after the
>school run but had a quick play on the guitar to wake the neighbours
>up then got on with some work. And then ten minutes later I'd decided
>I'd done enough ;-p
Sounds like my day - only no school run to mess me about :) You play
twiddly folky stuff or is it HM power chords all the way?
>Have been playing nice all morning doing a bit of filing
I know. Finger nails need constant maintenance.
>and putting things nicely on shelves.
Not the bf I trust?
Mogga
>>>Good morning Mogz. You obviously slept well.
>>
>>Awww no one calls me Mogz... :)
>>
>>yeah slept well, could have gone back for a nap though after the
>>school run but had a quick play on the guitar to wake the neighbours
>>up then got on with some work. And then ten minutes later I'd decided
>>I'd done enough ;-p
>
>Sounds like my day - only no school run to mess me about :) You play
>twiddly folky stuff or is it HM power chords all the way?
>
I think its fair to say I play badly. Not twiddly stuff. I used to be
singer in a band you know.
>>Have been playing nice all morning doing a bit of filing
>
>I know. Finger nails need constant maintenance.
>
They do. I really need a manicure.
I have this most amazing nail varnish - its pinkish mirror chrome
stuff. totally wicked... but my nails are a bit trashed after the
decorating so I'm not wearing it at the moment.
>>and putting things nicely on shelves.
>
>Not the bf I trust?
>
>
Nah, just some books and stuff, folders and erm yeah that was all I
did today.
I've just proposed the green party's candidate for round here - I'm
not standing this year. I suspect last year was a one off.
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>I think its fair to say I play badly.
OK. You play badly. (So do I.)
>Not twiddly stuff. I used to be singer in a band you know.
Then your voice broke and they invented the gramophone.
>>>Have been playing nice all morning doing a bit of filing
>>
>>I know. Finger nails need constant maintenance.
>>
>
>They do. I really need a manicure.
Good Scrabble word, "manicure". ma, man, manic, manicure, manicures...
can't think of any other use for it.
>I have this most amazing nail varnish - its pinkish mirror chrome
>stuff. totally wicked... but my nails are a bit trashed after the
>decorating so I'm not wearing it at the moment.
The imagination baulks.
>>>and putting things nicely on shelves.
>>
>>Not the bf I trust?
>>
>>
>Nah, just some books and stuff, folders and erm yeah that was all I
>did today.
>I've just proposed the green party's candidate for round here - I'm
>not standing this year.
I rather gathered you don't do much standing at all... Bet you lost
your deposit though. iirc, UK-Greenies went titsup when Dyke decided
he was God.
>I suspect last year was a one off.
Most years are. What happened? I don't remember.
Mogga
>
>>I think its fair to say I play badly.
>
>OK. You play badly. (So do I.)
>
lol
we could duet together.
>>Not twiddly stuff. I used to be singer in a band you know.
>
>Then your voice broke and they invented the gramophone.
>
I'm not *that* old you know.
>>>>Have been playing nice all morning doing a bit of filing
>>>
>>>I know. Finger nails need constant maintenance.
>>>
>>
>>They do. I really need a manicure.
>
>Good Scrabble word, "manicure". ma, man, manic, manicure, manicures...
>can't think of any other use for it.
>
Ohh do you scrabble?
Online?
>>I have this most amazing nail varnish - its pinkish mirror chrome
>>stuff. totally wicked... but my nails are a bit trashed after the
>>decorating so I'm not wearing it at the moment.
>
>The imagination baulks.
>
Yeah bare nails...
>I rather gathered you don't do much standing at all... Bet you lost
>your deposit though. iirc, UK-Greenies went titsup when Dyke decided
>he was God.
>
No deposit in local elections.
>>I suspect last year was a one off.
>
>Most years are. What happened? I don't remember.
I came 3rd. ;-/
The results are on the MCC website if you can be bothered.
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>we could duet together.
YM duel (and not bl* duab either)
>Ohh do you scrabble?
Only on the floor when someone drops a coin ;P
>bare nails...
It was the pink chrome bits that wouldn't compute.
>No deposit in local elections.
Oh yeah, Ok.
Mogga
>On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:57:52 +0000, Mogga
><di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>
>>we could duet together.
>YM duel (and not bl* duab either)
>
>>Ohh do you scrabble?
>Only on the floor when someone drops a coin ;P
>
There are 2 1ps just inside the gate here. Aint got a clue why.
>>bare nails...
>It was the pink chrome bits that wouldn't compute.
>
Pink shiny. metallic.
>>No deposit in local elections.
>Oh yeah, Ok.
:)
Mogga
>Mogga scribbled .....
>
>
>> I think its fair to say I play badly. Not twiddly stuff. I used to be
>> singer in a band you know.
>
>
>The Banshee's ??
LOL
Is that pic of the hair still knocking about? Or have you all see a
newer one?
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>Or have you all see a newer one?
You Carribean?
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>>>Ohh do you scrabble?
>>Only on the floor when someone drops a coin ;P
>>
>
>There are 2 1ps just inside the gate here. Aint got a clue why.
I expect you're too fat to pick 'em up.
>>>bare nails...
>>It was the pink chrome bits that wouldn't compute.
>>
>
>Pink shiny. metallic.
Ugh. Tasteless, vulgar and *cheap*.
Mogga
>On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:46:41 +0000, Mogga
><di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>Ohh do you scrabble?
>>>Only on the floor when someone drops a coin ;P
>>>
>>
>>There are 2 1ps just inside the gate here. Aint got a clue why.
>
>I expect you're too fat to pick 'em up.
>
Cheeky. Je suis tres skinny.
>>>>bare nails...
>>>It was the pink chrome bits that wouldn't compute.
>>>
>>
>>Pink shiny. metallic.
>
>Ugh. Tasteless, vulgar and *cheap*.
>
Cheap? Nah I can assure you of one thing its not cheap. I've not
actually had the bottle to do all my nails in it.
Mogga
No.
I don't understand you asking that.
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:48:17 +0000, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:46:43 +0000, Mogga
>><di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Or have you all see a newer one?
>>You Carribean?
>
>
>No.
>I don't understand you asking that.
Just wondered what language you were trying to write in.
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>>
>>Ugh. Tasteless, vulgar and *cheap*.
>>
>
>Cheap? Nah I can assure you of one thing its not cheap. I've not
>actually had the bottle to do all my nails in it.
<charm>Cheap as in "sluttish", not as in "inexpensive".</charm>
Mogga
Its costly stuff. I imagine it'd look best with shoulder pad type
outfit.... not the sort of stuff I'd wear.
Mogga
>>>>Or have you all see a newer one?
>>>You Carribean?
>>
>>
>>No.
>>I don't understand you asking that.
>
>Just wondered what language you were trying to write in.
>
You were right the other day I think when you say I had erm.......
some issues with spelling.
I do have a newer pic of myself but sans big hair.
Mogga
>Mogga scribbled .....
>
>
>> I do have a newer pic of myself but sans big hair.
>
>
>Where ??
Erm....... offhand I'm not sure.
Mogga
>Mogga scribbled .....
>
>
>> Is that pic of the hair still knocking about? Or have you all see a
>> newer one?
>>
>
>I do remember the old young Mogga. Great Wallpaper - kept my daughter
>off my computer for ages ....
>
LOL
scary ...
>Do you have a pink rinse in the new pic ?
Nooooooooooo
Its got very long again... oh that probably doesn't make sense to
anyone who doesn't know I had it cut short (Sold some to a wigmaker
lol - but again thats a long story... )
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>Its got very long again... oh that probably doesn't make sense to
>anyone who doesn't know I had it cut short
<yawn>My shoulder length hair is now a #1 cut.
Mogga
Eeek. Scary.
is it all lovely to stroke?
;-p
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:17:58 +0000, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:40:50 +0000, Mogga
>><di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Its got very long again... oh that probably doesn't make sense to
>>>anyone who doesn't know I had it cut short
>>
>><yawn>My shoulder length hair is now a #1 cut.
>
>Eeek. Scary.
>is it all lovely to stroke?
Depends who's doing it. I'm at the age now where "young" means "under
40" :( but I draw the line at old bats patting me on the head...
Oh - you meant lovely *for the stroker* didn't you? Well, they come
back for more so I guess it does something for them :/ Makes me feel
like a cat in a loved-up rave.
DP
>DP scribbled .....
>
>
>> <yawn>My shoulder length hair is now a #1 cut.
>
>
>Was it Dave Allan who said, he had got to the age when the hair
>growing out of his ears was longer than that on his head.
Prolly. So far the tweezers (my best electronic pliers actually) have
dealt with that problem, but the nose-hair is left to grow rampant
'coz it hurts to pull it out.
Mogga
>>><yawn>My shoulder length hair is now a #1 cut.
>>
>>Eeek. Scary.
>>is it all lovely to stroke?
>
>Depends who's doing it. I'm at the age now where "young" means "under
>40" :( but I draw the line at old bats patting me on the head...
>
LOL
I don't picture you as old for some reason.
>Oh - you meant lovely *for the stroker* didn't you? Well, they come
>back for more so I guess it does something for them :/ Makes me feel
>like a cat in a loved-up rave.
>
Oh indeed. Do you get kids sticking velcro to it?
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:10:18 +0000, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>><yawn>My shoulder length hair is now a #1 cut.
>>>
>>>Eeek. Scary.
>>>is it all lovely to stroke?
>>
>>Depends who's doing it. I'm at the age now where "young" means "under
>>40" :( but I draw the line at old bats patting me on the head...
>>
>LOL
>I don't picture you as old for some reason.
That's strange. Somehow I picture you as *very* old :P
>>Oh - you meant lovely *for the stroker* didn't you? Well, they come
>>back for more so I guess it does something for them :/ Makes me feel
>>like a cat in a loved-up rave.
>
>Oh indeed. Do you get kids sticking velcro to it?
I don't think velcro would work, no hooks on the end. But in any case,
I have all the kids I know well trained. I just talk to them once
about luminous flesh-eating worms that come out of the walls at night
and from then on they go squealing for Mum whenever they see me. Life
is so peaceful when you have it properly organized.
Mogga
>>>Depends who's doing it. I'm at the age now where "young" means "under
>>>40" :( but I draw the line at old bats patting me on the head...
>>>
>>LOL
>>I don't picture you as old for some reason.
>
>That's strange. Somehow I picture you as *very* old :P
>
*sobs*
but I'm not old. Really I'm not.
>>Oh indeed. Do you get kids sticking velcro to it?
>
>I don't think velcro would work, no hooks on the end. But in any case,
>I have all the kids I know well trained. I just talk to them once
>about luminous flesh-eating worms that come out of the walls at night
>and from then on they go squealing for Mum whenever they see me. Life
>is so peaceful when you have it properly organized.
>
>
V nice. You should give lessons.
DP
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>I've just proposed the green party's candidate for round here - I'm
>not standing this year. I suspect last year was a one off.
So, what made you go green? Was it when we accused you of being
responsible for global warming with your digestive emissions?
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>Its got very long again... oh that probably doesn't make sense to
>anyone who doesn't know I had it cut short (Sold some to a wigmaker
>lol - but again thats a long story... )
So, when was this taken?
http://www.refugees.plus.com/Top%20pics/Mogga_jpg.htm
Mogga
I'll cry if I want to ...
although its not my party.
Mogga
Thats not recent...
:)
Mogga
No.
It was sillier than your suggestion.
I don't agree with a lot of things the local lab lot do. They've got a
stranglehold on Manchester and I felt I should give some time to the
opposition.
So I emailed greeens and lib dems... to volunteer for leafleting
etc...
and decided I'd help whoever replied first...
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:43:59 +0000, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:40:50 +0000, Mogga
>><di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Its got very long again... oh that probably doesn't make sense to
>>>anyone who doesn't know I had it cut short (Sold some to a wigmaker
>>>lol - but again thats a long story... )
>>
>>So, when was this taken?
>>http://www.refugees.plus.com/Top%20pics/Mogga_jpg.htm
>>
>Thats not recent...
>:)
It's quite sexy though - looks like you might stay that
way for a bit :)
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>and decided I'd help whoever replied first...
Really strong convictions eh?
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:52:01 +0000, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:49:29 +0000, Mogga
>><di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>*sobs*
>>
>>shut up.
>
>I'll cry if I want to ...
>although its not my party.
Well, do it where I don't have to hear you.
Mogga
>>>>*sobs*
>>>
>>>shut up.
>>
>>I'll cry if I want to ...
>>although its not my party.
>
>Well, do it where I don't have to hear you.
Oh well I've stopped crying now.
;-)
*all cheery now but a bit tired*
Why can't I sleep in? Its far too early to get up.
;(
Mogga
>>>So, when was this taken?
>>>http://www.refugees.plus.com/Top%20pics/Mogga_jpg.htm
>>>
>>Thats not recent...
>>:)
>It's quite sexy though - looks like you might stay that
>way for a bit :)
I have a newer pic but its not on the net yet... not sure I should
either ... its not rude of owt... just def very me ;-)
Mogga
Name me 5 differences between greens and lib dems?
(well don't cos I don't know any! I was after rebelling and being seen
to be not supporting labour)
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:18:34 +0000, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:15:15 +0000, Mogga
>><di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>>
>>>and decided I'd help whoever replied first...
>>
>>Really strong convictions eh?
>
>
>Name me 5 differences between greens and lib dems?
>(well don't cos I don't know any! I was after rebelling and being seen
>to be not supporting labour)
Rebelling? Who against? The "younger generation"?
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:17:08 +0000, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>So, when was this taken?
>>>>http://www.refugees.plus.com/Top%20pics/Mogga_jpg.htm
>>>>
>>>Thats not recent...
>>>:)
>>It's quite sexy though - looks like you might stay that
>>way for a bit :)
>
>
>I have a newer pic but its not on the net yet... not sure I should
>either ... its not rude of owt... just def very me ;-)
Sounds ominous. Not rude you say? Wanna see a picture of my bottom?
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/derekpotter/caving/20_.jpg
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>Why can't I sleep in? Its far too early to get up.
Quarter past eleven is too early to get up?
You're right. What am I doing out and about? Feeding a friend's cats.
Mogga
>On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:12:06 +0000, Mogga
><di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>
>>Why can't I sleep in? Its far too early to get up.
>
>Quarter past eleven is too early to get up?
It was before then though not by much.
>
>You're right. What am I doing out and about? Feeding a friend's cats.
;-)
Ah how kind of you.
Feeding it to what?
Mogga
No some local tosspots who hadn't helped me when they should have done
and who now have enough egg on their face to make omlettes to feed the
3rd world.
Mogga
hehehehe
wicked.
is that waterfall climbing?
I used to climb, and not just out of people's bedroom windows
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>>
>>You're right. What am I doing out and about? Feeding a friend's cats.
>
>;-)
>Ah how kind of you.
>Feeding it to what?
I think they'd prolly eat each other if they had a chance. One stays
outside even in the depths of winter. I think it wants to make sure
the neighbours rottweilers don't stray into the garden. Other one is a
scrawny half-Siamese and stays indoors asleep even when it's eating.
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:15:18 +0000, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:12:48 +0000, Mogga
>><di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:17:08 +0000, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>So, when was this taken?
>>>>>>http://www.refugees.plus.com/Top%20pics/Mogga_jpg.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>Thats not recent...
>>>>>:)
>>>>It's quite sexy though - looks like you might stay that
>>>>way for a bit :)
>>>
>>>
>>>I have a newer pic but its not on the net yet... not sure I should
>>>either ... its not rude of owt... just def very me ;-)
>>
>>Sounds ominous. Not rude you say? Wanna see a picture of my bottom?
>>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/derekpotter/caving/20_.jpg
>
>hehehehe
>wicked.
>is that waterfall climbing?
>I used to climb, and not just out of people's bedroom windows
Just a bit of vertical caving using a wire ladder. I've never had
enough strength in my arms for climbing. Cavers NEVER exert themselves
unless they have to. Apart from lifting beer glasses of course. But
yes, that is a waterfall - in drought conditions. It's only 20 ft, but
not many people can climb it without a ladder as it's overhung
flowstone. I did find a novel route up - right underneath the water -
but I wouldn't recommend it without a lifeline. Couldn't do it these
days as I'm too fat. It gets more "interesting" when it rains.
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>No some local tosspots who hadn't helped me when they should have done
>and who now have enough egg on their face to make omlettes to feed the
>3rd world.
Not that you want to sound bitter or anything...
Mogga
>>;-)
>>Ah how kind of you.
>>Feeding it to what?
>
>I think they'd prolly eat each other if they had a chance. One stays
>outside even in the depths of winter. I think it wants to make sure
>the neighbours rottweilers don't stray into the garden. Other one is a
>scrawny half-Siamese and stays indoors asleep even when it's eating.
;-/
thats animals for you. Rosie wanted to go out just as we were heading
out this afternoon so I let her out the catflap and then relocked it.
When we got back she was all sad and meowing outside hehehe
They should know better.
Mogga
>Just a bit of vertical caving using a wire ladder. I've never had
>enough strength in my arms for climbing. Cavers NEVER exert themselves
>unless they have to. Apart from lifting beer glasses of course. But
>yes, that is a waterfall - in drought conditions. It's only 20 ft, but
>not many people can climb it without a ladder as it's overhung
>flowstone. I did find a novel route up - right underneath the water -
>but I wouldn't recommend it without a lifeline. Couldn't do it these
>days as I'm too fat. It gets more "interesting" when it rains.
Its as much legs as arm strength I think.
Climbed a waterfall in edale once (I think it was edale) it hadn't
rained for a while and we were probably being silly.
I wouldn't pothole if you paid me. I'd probably not climb anymore
either.
Mogga
Nah. not now I know I earn more than the bitch who supported my
arch-enemy.
;-)
I put all my angry energy into work and have achieved a fair bit I
think.
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>I wouldn't pothole if you paid me.
No risk of that.
It's unbelievably fascinating for the first year or so then it becomes
more of a personal-challenge-adventure thing for a while then it
becomes something you just do and thoroughly enjoy.
That's sex.
Mogga
hehehe
*blushes*
Climbing was something I probably should never have done. I don't like
heights ... but I found it a challenge.
Potholing just sounds crazy.
DP
Safer than climbing. Nice equable climate. Wonderful scenery. Stale
air, floods, rockfalls and getting bloody stuck. Plus grit in your
wetsuit. :/
Worst of all - losing your Mars bar down a crack.
That's potholing. Ahem.
Mogga
>Safer than climbing. Nice equable climate. Wonderful scenery. Stale
>air, floods, rockfalls and getting bloody stuck. Plus grit in your
>wetsuit. :/
>
>Worst of all - losing your Mars bar down a crack.
>
>That's potholing. Ahem.
>
>
hehhehe
Grit in your wetsuit sounds horrid.
I went in some cames at the blue john mines. but they're not like the
ones in father ted are they.
;-)
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 23:49:39 +0000, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Safer than climbing. Nice equable climate. Wonderful scenery. Stale
>>air, floods, rockfalls and getting bloody stuck. Plus grit in your
>>wetsuit. :/
>>
>>Worst of all - losing your Mars bar down a crack.
>>
>>That's potholing. Ahem.
>>
>>
>
>hehhehe
>Grit in your wetsuit sounds horrid.
Well, on a *good* trip you produce a nice protective layer of sloughed
skin, so a moderate amount of grit just gets absorbed into the paste.
However, when the way on happens to be a horizontal squeeze half
filled with mud, the wetsuit collar is liable to act as a scoop which
overwhelms the effect. Last time that happened to me was 150 feet
below a graveyard and the place was full of worms.
>I went in some cames at the blue john mines. but they're not like the
>ones in father ted are they.
I don't know anything Father Ted's anatomy and whether it includes
caves.
Mogga
>>hehhehe
>>Grit in your wetsuit sounds horrid.
>
>Well, on a *good* trip you produce a nice protective layer of sloughed
>skin, so a moderate amount of grit just gets absorbed into the paste.
>However, when the way on happens to be a horizontal squeeze half
>filled with mud, the wetsuit collar is liable to act as a scoop which
>overwhelms the effect. Last time that happened to me was 150 feet
>below a graveyard and the place was full of worms.
>
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Thats gross.
Were tehy big worms? Well fed? Liking the taste of human flesh?
>>I went in some cames at the blue john mines. but they're not like the
>>ones in father ted are they.
>
>I don't know anything Father Ted's anatomy and whether it includes
>caves.
Oh he's probably worm food by now.
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>Thats gross.
Yup.
>Were tehy big worms? Well fed? Liking the taste of human flesh?
They looked hungry tbh. Thin and pale. I didn't give them a chance to
find out if they fancied flesh.
Mogga
>On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:59:54 +0100, Mogga
><di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>
>>Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>Thats gross.
>
>Yup.
The few remaining green spaces round here are all ex-graveyard.
>
>>Were tehy big worms? Well fed? Liking the taste of human flesh?
>
>They looked hungry tbh. Thin and pale. I didn't give them a chance to
>find out if they fancied flesh.
don't blame ya.
kitty used to bring worms in when it rained. she's progressed to
caterpillers and woodlice now
:(
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>>They looked hungry tbh. Thin and pale. I didn't give them a chance to
>>find out if they fancied flesh.
>
>don't blame ya.
>kitty used to bring worms in when it rained. she's progressed to
>caterpillers and woodlice now
No hamsters?
Mogga
#
Nah they'd be too big. She's got a limit on what she'll catch.
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 14:42:23 +0100, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 13:34:24 +0100, Mogga
>><di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>They looked hungry tbh. Thin and pale. I didn't give them a chance to
>>>>find out if they fancied flesh.
>>>
>>>don't blame ya.
>>>kitty used to bring worms in when it rained. she's progressed to
>>>caterpillers and woodlice now
>>
>>No hamsters?
>#
>
>Nah they'd be too big. She's got a limit on what she'll catch.
BTi hamsters aren't very big.
Mogga
>>Nah they'd be too big. She's got a limit on what she'll catch.
>
>BTi hamsters aren't very big.
They'd hvae to be ... she is fab at catching blue bottles - if they
were about that size she'd do it,
DP
<di@noblinkingspamplease*mogga.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:54:48 +0100, DP <der...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Nah they'd be too big. She's got a limit on what she'll catch.
>>
>>BTi hamsters aren't very big.
>
>They'd hvae to be ... she is fab at catching blue bottles - if they
>were about that size she'd do it,
Bluebottle? "You dirty rotten swine, screams, you have deaded me,
shakes fist at Seagoon, dies, rolls about a bit"
She could practice on bats, they're sort of half-way.
Mogga
>>They'd hvae to be ... she is fab at catching blue bottles - if they
>>were about that size she'd do it,
>
>Bluebottle? "You dirty rotten swine, screams, you have deaded me,
>shakes fist at Seagoon, dies, rolls about a bit"
>
>She could practice on bats, they're sort of half-way.
:)
yes I'll suggest it to her.