Nellis/Groom scanner audio from May 2008
mi...@sushi.com
to be anonymous.
Ogg format files require winamp, videolan VLC player, or Irfanview.
http://www.videolan.org/
http://www.irfanview.com/
http://www.winamp.com/
With a bit of hacking, you can make itunes and quicktime play ogg, but
please don't clog up the newsgroup asking me how. Here is your clue:
http://www.xiph.org/
Now for the scanner audio. This is Groom Lake tower, approach/
departure, and ground all mixed in one file. The recording was done
5/14/2008. The callsign of the month was Raven. That is, the Janet
aircraft use the Janet callsign when under civilian ATC, but use the
Raven under military ATC. Slow movers are other Janets. Fast movers
are fighter type aircraft. Company traffic means another Janet
aircraft, generally the 737s
http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/janet/tower_approach_ground_05142008.ogg
This file is a combination of Nellis ATC, Groom Lake tower, and Groom
Lake approach/departure. The Beech Janets use the military callsign
plus a single digit that is the last number in the tail number. That
is, Raven 3 is N623RA. Southwest 7373 is a charter plane landing at
Nellis AFB.
http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/janet/tower_approach_nellis_05152008.ogg
The Southwest charter can be seen here:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA7373
This is Nellis weapons school audio. I skipped the air to air fighting
and limited the audio to just the ground action.
http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/weapons_school/weapons_school_05152008.ogg
There is a reference to "terror", which may be "Terrorist Canyon." I
created a Google KMZ overlay file that places the Nellis "Terrorist
Canyon" map over Google Earth.
http://www.lazygranch.com/google_earth/nellis/terrorist_canyon.kmz
This audio is of a non-janet aircraft (callsign sounds like Boke 11)
receiving the navigation fix SHOWW. SHOWW is a fix that is not
published, but reserved by Nellis AFB.
http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/via_showw.ogg
This audio is of Nellis weapons school. It verifies some new
frequencies including on using lowband FM.
http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/32p65_238p65.ogg
This audio is of a mystery plane that landed at both the Tonopah
civilian airport (KTPH) and Tonopah Test Range (KTNX):
http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/tonopah_civil.ogg
Hiram
I only really check in here for your posts.
mi...@sushi.com
> Thanks again for your efforts in getting all the scanner audio.
>
> I only really check in here for your posts.
Yes, alt.conspiracy.area51 is in sad shape. Too many spammers.
I post on two yahoogroups: black-triangles and hidesertscan. Also
abovetopsecret.com. Lots of flakes there, but ATS produces a
shockingly high number of hits, probably due to their radio
advertising.
mi...@sushi.com
> This scanner audio is courtesy from a Nellis range visitor that wishes
> to be anonymous.
>
> Ogg format files require winamp, videolan VLC player, or Irfanview.
>
>
> With a bit of hacking, you can make itunes and quicktime play ogg, but
> please don't clog up the newsgroup asking me how. Here is your clue:http://www.xiph.org/
>
> Now for the scanner audio. This is Groom Lake tower, approach/
> departure, and ground all mixed in one file. The recording was done
> 5/14/2008. The callsign of the month was Raven. That is, the Janet
> aircraft use the Janet callsign when under civilian ATC, but use the
> Raven under military ATC. Slow movers are other Janets. Fast movers
> are fighter type aircraft. Company traffic means another Janet
>
> This file is a combination of Nellis ATC, Groom Lake tower, and Groom
> Lake approach/departure. The Beech Janets use the military callsign
> plus a single digit that is the last number in the tail number. That
> is, Raven 3 is N623RA. Southwest 7373 is a charter plane landing at
>
> The Southwest charter can be seen here:http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA7373
>
> This is Nellis weapons school audio. I skipped the air to air fighting
>
> There is a reference to "terror", which may be "Terrorist Canyon." I
> created a Google KMZ overlay file that places the Nellis "Terrorist
>
> This audio is of a non-janet aircraft (callsign sounds like Boke 11)
> receiving the navigation fix SHOWW. SHOWW is a fix that is not
>
> This audio is of Nellis weapons school. It verifies some new
>
> This audio is of a mystery plane that landed at both the Tonopah
> civilian airport (KTPH) and Tonopah Test Range (KTNX):http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/tonopah_civil.ogg
http://www.379aew.afnews.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123048915
It has been suggested that this is the mystery plane at Tonopah.
Lumpy
mi...@sushi.com
Regarding terrorist canyon, I've driven out to the Stonewall area,
though I haven't done the hike. I think you could watch the terrorist
canyon get whacked, though the targets themselves would not be
visible. Still, it is quite a sight to see the AC-130 putting out a
stream of bullets, i.e. watch the tracers.
The gate is located here
N37 33 58.6 W117 05 49.4
To stay legit, you need to head towards this point
N37 32 30.9 W117 03 54.7
I think this is the only place where you can legally cross on their
side of the border.
Lumpy
> Regarding terrorist canyon, I've driven out to the Stonewall area,
> though I haven't done the hike...
That's exactly what I was thinking.
About 5 miles from the summit to
the targets.
Lumpy
You Played on Lawrence Welk?
Yes but no blue notes. Just blue hairs.
mi...@sushi.com
The problem with the hike is the footing was really soft after a
while. It was like walking on the beach. Easy on your feet, but each
step was really like 2/3 of a step when going uphill. Glenn indicated
it was 5 hours up and 2 down. That reflects the steepness and the
footing.
If you are not hauling much gear, you can just park near the spring.
Hiking the first mile is easy, i.e. all level. The road up to the peak
gets crappy fast. I groomed it quite a bit when I visited the area,
removing about 3/4 of the land mines (tire killing rocks).
I camped out on a hill near the spring. You wouldn't want to be right
next to the spring unless you enjoy hanging out with wildlife. All I
saw were wild horses, but I'm sure every critter in the area knows of
the spring.
I started a webpage on the trip:
http://www.lazygranch.com/stonewall_mountain.htm
If you look at photo with the vehicles that are traveling (as opposed
to being targets), there is traffic on that road most of the evening.
Since I was parked on a hill, I'm sure I was very visible to the road
traffic, but here you are dealing with Nellis rather than Groom Lake.
I don't think security cared much about my presence. Plus who is
stupid enough to enter a live fire range.
Lumpy
> Regarding terrorist canyon,
> I've driven out to the Stonewall area,
> though I haven't done the hike...
The directions I've read take you to the spring, then
generally head south toward the summit. Then somehow
direct you to "the saddle"
37 30.000n 117 02.866w
which is SOUTH of the summit and
inside the boundary. Seems odd.
The gate & the spring, seem (perhaps) dangerously
close to the toxic waste area.
I see a couple of "What's This" points in
that area.
37°31'18.49"N 117° 2'24.54"W
Looks like some kind of man made structure
with a road/path heading NE from there.
I believe that to be just inside the boundary.
Lumpy
You played on "The Love Boat"?
Yes. White tux, huge sideburns.
mi...@sushi.com
I don't see any markings on google earth. Follow my waypoints to the
spring. Then follow the road until you reach
N37 32 45.5 W117 03 12.2
The "white" road overlay is not correct on Google Earth, but if you
zoom in, you can see the actual road from the satellite image. That is
where I would suggest you stop driving a SUV. It is a place where at
least you could turn the vehicle around. However, you only saved a
mile, so you might be better off parking near the spring. [I hate
blocking any road, even if the odds of someone else using it are nill.
Some ass parked a grader on the road near Queen City Summit, forcing
people to drive on the brush.]]
http://www.lazygranch.com/google_earth/nellis/stonewall.kmz
This is my guess for the route. Remember, you don't climb the actual
peak since that is restricted.
Looking at my GPS trail, I quit the hike at this location
N37 32 17.0 W117 02 44.7
Then I climbed up to this hill to shoot some of the photographs
N37.5385 W117.044
That hike was pretty easy. The altitude is 6070ft, while the final
viewing location is 8038. You can see how the instructions indicate it
is a 5 hour hike.
That pretty much exhausts what I know of the area. I may do the hike,
but it won't be with the telescope in my backpack.
Lumpy
> ...Remember, you don't climb the actual
> peak since that is restricted.
Where's the real Stonewall peak?
I only see one listed on the couple
of maps I have and it's the one
south of the spring "Stonewall summit".
Craig
mi...@sushi.com
The topo map just calls it Stonewall
37.50003 -117.04023
Google Earth is off a bit here. My waypoint comes from an electronic
map (Expert GPS). I'm not sure if I would buy ExpertGPS today
considering the imagery is limited to the old USGS B&W data, but it
does come in handy if you want to view the old USGS topo maps in
detail. Of course, today, ExpertGPS costs less than a tank of
gasoline.
Lumpy
Lump:
> > Where's the real Stonewall peak?
> > I only see one listed on the couple
> > of maps I have and it's the one
> > south of the spring "Stonewall summit".
Miso:
> The topo map just calls it Stonewall
> 37.50003 -117.04023
> Google Earth is off a bit here...
That's where Glen described "The Saddle"
that you were supposed to hike to before
the final ascent to Stonewall summit
(presumably not the REAL but the observation point).
He goes on to describe the microwave tower visible
near (what is apparently) the real Stonewall.
His directions were kind of goofy.
I am similarly confused about the commonly
available directions to Mt Cury.
Lumpy
mi...@sushi.com
I made a map from ExpertGPS and uploaded it here
www.lazygranch.com/images/stonewall/stone_map.jp2
Irfanview will read a jp2 (jpeg2000) file.
Without seeing the whole map, it is a bit confusing as to where the
restrict region is located. The restricted region is at the top of the
image. That is, the waypoint STONE is in the restricted region. The
wayp[oint STOND is in the free territory, as are the waypoints seen
heading downward, terminating at STONSMIT
STONSPR is the parking area by the spring
STONG if I recall correctly is a parking area above the spring
The hike requires crossing the Nellis boundary a bit. I met with the
BLM, and they say this is legal, but you can't linger on their side of
the border.
37.50003 -117.04023 is what I labeled STONMNT. It is at the bottom of
the image, and it is not the saddle but the peak.
You have realize in those days, not everyone had a GPS, plus the SA
was still turned on., so I cut them (Glen and Tom) some slack on their
fuzzy directions. The Mount Stirling hike had even a worse description
than Stonewall.
Lumpy
> I made a map from ExpertGPS and uploaded it here
> www.lazygranch.com/images/stonewall/stone_map.jp2
Thanks!
Lumpy
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