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Bob Lazar and the 'boys" on Coast to Coast AM

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Desert Shadow

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:00:31 PM11/17/09
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Did anybody happen to listen to the George Knapp Coast to Coast AM
show this past Sunday. It featured Bob Lazar, John Lear, and Gene
Huff talking about Area 51. It was sort of a 20 year anniversary
show. It really sounded as if Bob Lazar wished he never came forward
with his story about working at Area 51. He said it gets in the way
of some of the deals he makes with his current business. I guess his
current business is going really well. He is about finished with his
Hydrogen fuel cell kit. John Lear is almost so "unbelievable" now
that it is hard to listen to him. Nothing new came out about Area
51. I guess I didn't really expect anything much from these guys, but
it was interesting to hear Lazar talk about how this has negatively
affected him over the past 20 years. Does anybody else feel like the
"stuff" he is selling should not be sold over the internet or is it
just me? I am a teacher and I guess some of the stuff could be used
in Science classes. The magnets and meteorites look pretty cool.

http://www.switch2hydrogen.com/

http://www.unitednuclear.com/

mi...@sushi.com

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:42:56 PM11/17/09
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Most of John's stuff was out there, but one thing I never heard him
say before was that he flew a Bronco over the NTS prior to a test
being performed. Clearly he saw Groom Lake close up.

One thing nobody talks about is how hydrogen causes metal to get
brittle.[I found material science to be one nasty course in college.
Hats off to those who do it for a living.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_embrittlement
So I believe you could make a car that runs on hydrogen, but I don't
know about the longevity of a converted vehicle.

Really, the development of a better battery is the path to follow. The
hydrogen fueled car still doesn't recover the braking energy like an
electric vehicle, so there would be a push for hybrid versions of the
car. Hybrid cars are really stupid when you think about them. A pure
electric car could be so simple that you would not need a transmission
or even differentials if you distributed the motors, i.e. two for 2wd
or 4 for 4wd. A hybrid takes something complicated and adds something
complicated, which is 2x complicated!

Lumpy

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Nov 17, 2009, 7:34:19 PM11/17/09
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mi...@sushi.com wrote:
> ...Hybrid cars are really stupid when you think about them. A pure

> electric car could be so simple that you would not need a transmission
> or even differentials if you distributed the motors, i.e. two for 2wd
> or 4 for 4wd. A hybrid takes something complicated and adds something
> complicated, which is 2x complicated!

I really don't know anything about current day Hybrids.
But I thought they were essentially electric cars with
a petrol powered generator. Like a dieselectric locomotive.

Does the gas engine drive hybrid cars? Trade off from the
elec motor?


Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke

www.n0eq.com


mi...@sushi.com

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Nov 18, 2009, 12:25:58 AM11/18/09
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On Nov 17, 4:34 pm, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote:

That would actually make sense.
<http://auto.howstuffworks.com/hybrid-car2.htm>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_vehicle_drivetrain>
These pages use series and parallel to explain the two methods. What
you are describing is series. As far as I can tell, no consumer
electric vehicles are the series type.

I had a contract at one of the companies that made the fets for diesel
locomotives, though that wasn't what I was consulting on. Anyway, all
the business was in Europe and Japan. These guys had electric motor
control under control. ;-) Lots of transistors that looked like hockey
pucks.

I'm assuming for a series hybrid car you would run the gas engine at
one speed where it is optimal, much like a turboprop airplane, and let
the electronics control the motor speed. If you had even 2wd with a
motor at each wheel, you would have some redundancy. It would make a
great "limp home" backup.


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