"Medical Update"
Anita Karczewski
Tuesday, February 24, 2004: Prior to Ray's release, both I
and my husband Raymond KarczewskiŠ were told by jail personnel that
due to lab results of his latest blood test, he would be taken to the
hospital for a medical evaluation and possibly kept for observation
due to his then 22-day-long hunger strike in the Josephine County
Adult Jail in Grants Pass, Oregon.
This hunger strike (his second hunger strike while
incarcerated at the jail), as was his 33-day hunger strike in 2002,
was in protest of his false arrest and false imprisonment by Josephine
County Circuit Court judges and District Attorney Clay E. Johnson who
have not proven jurisdicton nor answered his twenty-three (23) Proofs
of Claim (in other words -- they refuse to follow the law).
I was told by jail staff that Ray would then be released to
"Community Service," which was defined as "to take care of me"
during my own recuperation from my recent hospitalization. Our
daughter Lisa has quit her job, and temporarily left her home,
husband, and temporarily removed her son (6 years old) from school to
come to Oregon to care for me while her dad has been unlawfully
confined in jail.
At approximately 3:00PM Tuesday Ray had to phone home
"collect". He told Lisa that he had been driven to Three Rivers
Hospital in Grants Pass Oregon, was left at the door, and he needed a
ride home. Subsequently Ray told us that Lieutenant Brian Anderson
drove him from the jail to Three Rivers Hospital, stopped the patrol
vehicle in front of the Emergency Room doors, opened the patrol car
door and told Ray that he was on his own as far as seeking medical
evaluation and/or care for his physical condition. Ray told Lisa that
he needed to be picked up as he did not have the funds to pay for any
medical care needed (a result of his hunger strike in protest of the
courts' and the D.A.'s refusal to follow the law). A friend of ours
volunteered to pick Ray up since I did not have enough oxygen and am
too weak to do it myself. Our friend found Ray sitting on the floor
in the hospital lobby beneath the phone he had used to call home, and
brought Ray home.
When Ray arrived home, he was barely able to walk from our
friend's van to the house. His first night home he broke his 22-day-
long fast by having a cup of chicken broth and some soup Lisa had
made. Ray was very dizzy and unsteady on his feet and upon rising
from a chair, dizziness would cause him to fall back onto the chair.
He did not sleep well. Yesterday Ray had more broth and an omelet
Lisa had made. He went to bed early as he -- still dizzy and very
unsteady on his feet -- had pain in both feet.
Yesterday morning, I phoned the jail medical department and
told them I was outraged by the inhumane and cruel treatment of my
husband. As a result of Ray's lab test, the jail already knew that
his health was in serious jeopardy. To take someone in that condition
and drop them off, telling them they were on their own to seek the
medical evaluation they had indicated both to Ray and to me that he
would be taken to the hospital to receive, is unconscionable.
At about 4:00AM today (February 25, 2004) Ray called out to
Lisa to tell her that he was in great pain and was unable to walk. I
attempted to get medical care to come to our home, but was not
successful. Nobody in the medical community would come to our
home to check on him. At about 2PM this afternoon, I phoned for an
ambulance to take Ray to the hospital. By that time he was crying out
with the pain in his feet that had also begun creeping up into his
legs.
Ray is presently in Three Rivers Hospital in Grants Pass,
Oregon -- Room 304. The code to speak to him personally is 7002.
We are waiting for the results of his examination.
Today I telephoned various court and county officials, and
governor Ted Kulongoski's office regarding this outragious conduct by
the court and jail personnel. It seems that everyone and their staff
was unavailable to take or return my calls.
My husband is in no condition to take of me. The jail medical
and regular staff knew that when they took him to the door of Three
Rivers Hospital and left him to fend for himself.
The court's sudden concern for my welfare did not prevent them
from having Ray arrested on Jauary 30 and leaving me alone for five
days (until our daughter arrived from out of state) to fend for
myself, unable to get firewood from the wood shed to heat the house or
to get groceries. If you are as outraged as I am by this, phone the
numbers below and express your concern.
Anita Karczewski
Phone numbers to call:
Governor Ted Kulongoski: Telephone: 503-378-3111
Fax: 503-378-4863
Josephine County Presiding Judge Gerald C. Neufeld: (541) 476-2309
Josephine County Judge J Pat Wolke: (51) 476-2309
Snail mail address of Josephine County Judge Neufeld and Judge J
Pat Wolke:
500 NW 6th Street
Grants Pass, Oregon 97526
Governor Kulongoski
State of Oregon
900 Court Street NE
Salem, Oregon 97301-4047
bookman
"Anita Karczewski" <ney...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:403eff7f....@news.west.earthlink.net...
> UPDATE !! MEDICAL UPDATE !!
>
> Tuesday, February 24, 2004: Prior to Ray's release, both I
that
> due to lab results of his latest blood test, he would be taken to the
> hospital for a medical evaluation and possibly kept for observation
> due to his then 22-day-long hunger strike in the Josephine County
> Adult Jail in Grants Pass, Oregon.
>
> This hunger strike (his second hunger strike while
Why not stop lying to yourselves, Anita? bRay _chose_ all this.
If y'all find yourselves in massive medical debt, it is because
RAYMOND RONALD KARCZEWSKI CHOSE TO
STARVE HIMSELF! You cannot blame the jail - they offered
him food, but THE KAZOO REFUSED TO EAT! They even
appear to have given him what he was demanding, his early release,
despite bRAY'S JUVENILE TEMPER TANTRUM.
They even gave him a free ride to the hospital, rather than
dumping him out into the street. Generous of them - very
generous! So what do you folks do? You take the sick man
OUT OF THE HOSPITAL! How kooky can you get?
Now you are trying to get some sort of pressure from the
Internet. Why? Why, to STEAL heathcare from the citizens
of OR, what else?
I agree that people should call or write in, in order to encourage
the officials to take a stand against the this thievery. MAKE bRAY
PAY FOR HIS OWN ACTIONS! so here's your contact info:
<As posted by Anita>
Phone numbers to call:
Governor Ted Kulongoski: Telephone: 503-378-3111
Fax: 503-378-4863
Josephine County Presiding Judge Gerald C. Neufeld: (541) 476-2309
Josephine County Judge J Pat Wolke: (51) 476-2309
Snail mail address of Josephine County Judge Neufeld and Judge J
Pat Wolke:
500 NW 6th Street
Grants Pass, Oregon 97526
Governor Kulongoski
State of Oregon
900 Court Street NE
Salem, Oregon 97301-4047
<End quote>
Remember, the Kazoo MADE HIS BED, so now he should
have to LIE IN IT!
Hell, is it not? Indeed, a Hell of his own Satanic creation.
ESL!
--
Bookman
Kazoo Konspirator #668 (The Neighbor of the Beast)
We're not laughing _with_ bRay!
Clue-Bat Wrangler
Namer of the 10-gallon Creel
Agent Sir Ed
Anita Karczewski wrote:
> UPDATE !! MEDICAL UPDATE !!
Anita, your husband brought this on himself. HE chose
to starve himself to death, NOT the jail!
The jail staff OFFERED him food...he chose to not take it.
If he truly IS the "Sovereign Citizen" he claims to be,
let alone The Christ, then he has EVERY right in the
world to kill himself, and woe betide the one who stops
him from carrying out the Sovereign Citizen's expressed
will.
As the kazoo himself has stated thousands of times
throughout his eight-year long campaign of insults,
diatribes and invective against all who saw through his
claims of Christhood, KARMA always wins out...and your
husband built up a whole stinking, heaping pile of it.
He is now living the consequences of his foolish actions.
If he had but chosen to see the TRUTH about himself and
his foolish self-delusions, paid the traffic tickets
and stopped filing fraudulent liens against everyone he
disliked, including Jamie, why, then...he wouldn't be
in this mess, would he?
I hope for yours and his sake that he pulls through,
but he has NO RIGHT to expect the taxpayers to pay for it.
Besides which, the kazoo has always told people to STOP
paying their taxes...it would be hypocritical of Ray to
now demand those selfsame taxes that he wants people to
stop paying.
Karma is a bitch, sometimes...but I hope he pulls through.
Ed
svanier
> UPDATE !! MEDICAL UPDATE !!
>
> Tuesday, February 24, 2004: Prior to Ray's release, both I
> and my husband Raymond KarczewskiŠ were told by jail personnel that
> due to lab results of his latest blood test, he would be taken to the
> hospital for a medical evaluation and possibly kept for observation
> due to his then 22-day-long hunger strike in the Josephine County
> Adult Jail in Grants Pass, Oregon.
>
> This hunger strike (his second hunger strike while
> incarcerated at the jail), as was his 33-day hunger strike in 2002,
> was in protest of his false arrest and false imprisonment by Josephine
> County Circuit Court judges and District Attorney Clay E. Johnson who
> have not proven jurisdicton nor answered his twenty-three (23) Proofs
> of Claim (in other words -- they refuse to follow the law).
>
> I was told by jail staff that Ray would then be released to
> "Community Service," which was defined as "to take care of me"
> during my own recuperation from my recent hospitalization. Our
> daughter Lisa has quit her job, and temporarily left her home,
> husband, and temporarily removed her son (6 years old) from school to
> come to Oregon to care for me while her dad has been unlawfully
> confined in jail.
****************SPV.......Why does he say "unlawful"? Isn't denial strange?
**************************SPV.....Anita you expect someone to take care
of you. Where is your head at. Why should anyone take care of you.
You know what they did to me in California. Witho no money and nowhere
to go they let me out of the Richmond jail with a bus token at 1:30 Am
where there are no buses for 5 1/2 hours in the dead of winter and if I
didn't have a jacket with me when arrest that was tough.
The whole idea of jail is punishment. Ray is being punished for being
such a dumb ass. And dear woman you have nobody to blame but yourself.
You see now Ray is legally arrested for parole violation which is a
crime. Just because he doesn't understand the courts juri. over him
doesn't mean it is not there. Plus how can a cop who sent many people
to jail under this same law object now to follow this same law? Should
make an average intelligent person wonder what he was doing for 30 years
taking money for something he didn't believe in. So he was greedy. And
that is his gambling problem also. Ray is Greedy. And now he is Greedy
for attention.
Carl R. Osterwald
<sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote:
> Anita Karczewski wrote:
> > UPDATE !! MEDICAL UPDATE !!
[snip]
> ****************SPV.......Why does he say
Who let Veneer back inside?
-=-=-=-=-
Official AFA-B Bully, Pest, and Gummint Disinformation Agent
svanier
> In article <jsH%b.617$YG4....@news.uswest.net>, svanier
> <sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Anita Karczewski wrote:
>>
>>>UPDATE !! MEDICAL UPDATE !!
>
>
> [snip]
>
>
>>****************SPV.......Why does he say
>
>
> Who let Veneer back inside?
*&**************SPV......Do you people have a thing for spelling my name
wrong?
I give up on the wiseacres. All I care about is that Crime is dropping
which I am working and putting my heart and soul into. I wonder if the
cops appreciate the work I do? I wonder if their wives appreciate me
for making the entire deal safer? I wonder if the world can grasp the
power of God and his heirs.
You know Jesus said that his real Father was in Heaven while his parents
were still alive.
My real family is the State of Colorado who in my time of need provided
me with a nice place to live nearly for free. And a comfortable place
with repect. And then the State provided me with equipment and money to
start my business to help batter people of all races and sexes and
nationalities. And my parents are the STate of Colorado and the City of
Boulder and my real Father is in Heaven for leading the way and making
it so that it shall never happen again by telling us much about people
and their anger and jealousy and hatred toward the truly gifted in
Spiritual Being.
Anyway I just bought some $65 worth of food at Safeway and I got a value
pack of New York Steaks which was$10 a pound and cut into 1/2 pound
steaks like I like and there are five of them in bulk for $25. And I
bought some oyster sauce for cooking and some sesmed oil for cooking and
cheeses and stuff to drink like Gatoraide.
Then I pulled $130 out of the bank for Blake who is having lunch with me
today. I mean the kid spends a few hours horsing around because I want
him too so he should be paid. I'll take him to lunch and then out to
Comp USA for a new Video Game for entertainment so he got something to
relax with instead of studying all the time and to say thanks for not
drinking or drugging and getting straight A's.
I'll keep ten bucks for myself and I will invite him to dinner but he is
busy with his friends all the time so it will be a hollow jesture even
though I do have the steaks.
After the afternoon is over I will finish my work and screw around and
then I will have some dinner and go to bed because my big account is
coming back on line and there were 10 new serves in my box down in
Denver. That's $300 worth of business and if I could get one more
account like this I would drop my phone and yellow page ads and just
work for a hand full of accounts and not of this rookie crap.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
Karczewski) wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>
> Today I telephoned various court and county officials, and
>governor Ted Kulongoski's office regarding this outragious conduct by
>the court and jail personnel. It seems that everyone and their staff
>was unavailable to take or return my calls.
So, Ray's (alleged) self-imposed hunger strike endangered his own
health, and city/county/state is responsible for him being an insane
kook? I have to admit, I'd have never thought to approach it that
way, but KOOK ON!
>
> My husband is in no condition to take of me.
You husband is in no condition to take care of a teddy bear, much less
himself, or you.
--
V.G.
"People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it is easier to harrass
rich women than it is motorcycle gangs." - Bumper Sticker
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<sini...@concentric.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>X-No-Archive: Yes.
>On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:45:07 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <jsH%b.617$YG4....@news.uswest.net>, svanier
>><sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Anita Karczewski wrote:
>>> > UPDATE !! MEDICAL UPDATE !!
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>> ****************SPV.......Why does he say
>>
>>Who let Veneer back inside?
>>
>He came in the dog door.
My bad. I thought it was the dog, walking backwards for some reason.
Emmett Heinz Curley Bartlo
Hey, bitch, your husband claims to be a SOVERIEGN CITIZEN. What's
inhumane or cruel about letting him go back to his own "country"?
Did you want the citizens of *this* country, the USA, or the citizens of
Oregon to pay for his care?
The fucker REFUSED TO EAT! That's NOBODY'S fault but his.
Stop being sick fucking whackos, shut up, toe the line, get a job, pay
your taxes, and eat a shit sandwich like the rest of us!
Occasional AB Listener
regarding her husband Ray's medical condition, I felt compelled to
interject and put in my two Abe Lincolns.
Anita, I feel sorry for you and for your family members who are
suffering as a result of your husband's hunger strike resulting from his
situation with the Josephine County Courthouse. The fact is, however,
Ray's woe's are self-inflicted. Within the past nine years he chose to
turn several minor traffic violations into a series of felonies because
of his cavalier, irresponsible and messianic attitude. Now he is
falling down flat on his face as a result of his ego trip, or tripping
over his ego.
You and your husband always preach that the government should follow the
law. Indeed, that is what officials from the judicial system and law
enforcement are trying to do. For example, take a look at Section 811
of the Oregon Revised Statutes
(http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/811.html). There you will see the
penalties relating to traffic violations. By not dimming his highbeams
within 500 feet of oncoming traffic, Ray violated ORS 811.515(6)(a)(b),
which is considered a Class B traffic violation pursuant to ORS
811.515(3). Ray also drove his vehicle away during a traffic stop
without asking the police officer permission to leave. That offense is
considered "eluding a police officer" pursuant to ORS 811.540(1)(b)(A)
and is punishable as a Class C felony pursuant to ORS 811.540(3)(a).
Furthermore, by not appearing in court in order to face these
violations, Ray caused more trouble for himself. The judge has every
right to issue bench warrants against all no-shows.
To make matters worse, you and Ray decided to spam and flood the
newsgroups and bulletin boards with screeds about how you two were
"persecuted" by the justice system. When the regulars monitoring
alt.fan.art-bell and other newsgroups criticized and lampooned Ray's
messianic and extreme right-wing political diatribes, your husband filed
multimillion-dollar liens against his detractors, including Glen
Quarnstrom (deceased) and Dr. Postman. This offense is considered
"Simulation of Legal Process," a felony in the State of Oregon. He has
been convicted of at least seven such felony counts.
Now this never-ending saga, which is going on for nearly nine years, has
come to a breaking point. Ray decided to go on a hunger strike --
again, like he did previously -- thereby costing the taxpayers in your
municipality, county and state money for his self-inflicted medical
problems and incarceration. You yourself are ailing and in need of a
respirator. Numerous medical studies have proven that prolonged stress
not only contributes to high blood pressure, strokes and heart attacks,
but also breaks down your body's immune system. If you continue to
pursue this path, both you and your husband could die much sooner than
you think. This means you will never see your grandchildren graduate
from high school, go to college, marry and raise a family.
If you want to see the situation between you two improve, you must do
the following:
1. Stop spamming and flooding the newsgroups with screeds pertaining
to your problems at the Josephine County Courthouse, as stated
previously, these woes are self-inflicted;
2. Stop insulting and denigrating others as being "Satanic
Ignoramus Pipsqueaks" or "Government/Media Disinformation Agents,"
as neither Satan nor the agents from the CIA and other "spook"
agencies are involved or want to be involved in Ray's legal woes;
3. Stop contesting the decisions made by the judge. Ray's claims
have absolutely no legal merit whatsoever. He must comply with
the judge's orders by reporting to the probation officer and
by staying out of trouble;
4. Cease and desist any attempts to file liens against your
detractors and apologize to those who received such paperwork.
We here at AFA-B have a right, pursuant to the First Amendment
of the U.S. Constitution, to criticize Ray's reckless behavior
because he chose to publicize his actions here in these
newsgroups. Although some members here lampoon and ridicule
your husband's behavior, many others, such as Agent Sir Ed and
myself, attempted numerous times to give you two sound advice,
hoping that you would stray from your path to destruction.
So far you rejected our advice;
5. Acknowledge that you and your husband are not Jesus Christ,
a Christ or any other title of divinity. Like the rest of us,
you are mortal beings and sinners. When all of us die, we
will be meeting the *REAL* Christ (not your husband), who will
not only hold us accountable for all of our words, thoughts
and deeds, but will also reward us accordingly. I firmly
believe that when you die and move on to the afterlife, God
will hold such delusional ideology against you if you do not
repent immediately. And don't tell Him that we didn't warn
you, because your replies may fall on deaf ears.
6. Seek professional help. Consult a member of the clergy or a
counselor to help resolve some of the physical, spiritual
and psychological grief this situation has caused. It may
take months -- or possibly years -- for the situation to
show signs of improvement, but please seek help. Your
husband is in dire need of some medical and psychological
attention. Have him seek it now or it will be too late.
What it all boils down is that Ray should have paid his fines and moved
on like everybody else. He also could have legally contested the
citations if he believed the police officer erred in his judgement. He
could have enrolled in traffic school so that his driving record would
have been cleaned up. By doing so he would not have accrued a series of
felony convictions and you would have saved thousands of dollars in
wasted legal expenses.
Nobody is above the law, and Ray must remember that. Just imagine what
it would be like if you were seriously injured and your family members
were killed in an automobile accident because some reckless driver
possessing a messianic attitude thinks he or she is above the law and is
not held accountable to anyone. Would you sue that driver, or would you
support and defend that motorist for his or her reckless actions?
The rules of the road are universal. No matter where you go in the
world (unless you're living in Antarctica, where the continent is
covered with ice), you must obey the traffic laws. Failure to do so
will result in fines, arrests, or both. As a retired police sergeant,
your husband should know that, as he must have ticketed and arrested
thousands of motorists for the same offenses that he himself committed.
You are now at the crossroads, Anita. You can either take heed to my
advice and see a drastic improvement in your own well-being (as well as
those of your family members), or you can reject it and continue your
downward spiral until you crash and burn. It's time to pull the
throttle up and turn away from your reckless ways.
Occasional AB (Art Bell) Listener
"Yes, there are two paths you can go by,
But in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on."
--Lyrics from "Stairway to Heaven" (1970),
performed by Led Zeppelin
Ben Hiel
"Emmett Heinz Curley Bartlo" <eh...@kookhallofame.com> wrote in message
news:c1ofoe$8e1$0...@pita.alt.net...
> Anita Karczewski wrote:
>
> > UPDATE !! MEDICAL UPDATE !!
> Stop being sick fucking whackos, shut up, toe the line, get a job, pay
> your taxes, and eat a shit sandwich like the rest of us!
I am in agreement with this post.
Carl R. Osterwald
<iam...@aol.com> wrote:
[snip]
> You are now at the crossroads, Anita. You can either take heed to my
> advice and see a drastic improvement in your own well-being (as well as
> those of your family members), or you can reject it and continue your
> downward spiral until you crash and burn. It's time to pull the
> throttle up and turn away from your reckless ways.
Well said, unfortunately I fear it will fall on deaf ears.
svanier
******SPV........You want the truth? You are as goofey as Ray just the
other side of the coin. You and Ray make a pair. And he disobeys you
want to obey. You need mental help. Why not go with Ray to see a good
doctor?
Occasional AB Listener
>
> ******SPV........You want the truth? You are as goofey as Ray just the
> other side of the coin. You and Ray make a pair. And he disobeys you
> want to obey. You need mental help. Why not go with Ray to see a good
> doctor?
What is "goofey" about saying that Raymond Karczewski must obey the law
like the rest of us and that he is not Christ or a self-proclaimed
deity? What is "goofey" about saying that Ray's woes are self-inflicted
and that he has been costing himself and the taxpayers of Oregon
thousands (or possibly) millions of dollars in unnecessary medical and
legal expenses?
I believe everything I said here is concise, lucid and to the point --
not like Ray's rambling political and religious screeds.
When you make such accusations, back them up with clear, convincing
evidence or don't even respond at all.
Occasional AB Listener
>
> personality disorder. Hell, isn't it?
If criticizing Ray's delusional behavior makes me "manic,
obsessive-compulsive," then I guess so. And so would 99 percent of
society.
Occasional AB Listener
Carl R. Osterwald
<sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote:
> > You are now at the crossroads, Anita. You can either take heed to my
> > advice and see a drastic improvement in your own well-being (as well as
> > those of your family members), or you can reject it and continue your
> > downward spiral until you crash and burn. It's time to pull the
> > throttle up and turn away from your reckless ways.
> >
>
> ******SPV........You want the truth? You are as goofey as FLUSH
Stuff it, Veneer.
Occasional AB Listener
> Admit it and you'll feel better.
You don't have a case.
I feel better that I gave some sound advice to Anita Karczewski, Ray's
wife. I feel sorry that she is on a respirator and that she is
suffering tremendously. Whether she accepts or rejects my advice is
totally up to her.
bookman
"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message
news:56ev309b6fv5lh2cp...@4ax.com...
> On 27 Feb 2004 10:23:09 EST, House Widdershins
> <sini...@concentric.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>
> >X-No-Archive: Yes.
> >On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:45:07 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>In article <jsH%b.617$YG4....@news.uswest.net>, svanier
> >><sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Anita Karczewski wrote:
> >>> > UPDATE !! MEDICAL UPDATE !!
> >>
> >>[snip]
> >>
> >>> ****************SPV.......Why does he say
> >>
> >>Who let Veneer back inside?
> >>
> >He came in the dog door.
>
> My bad. I thought it was the dog, walking backwards for some reason.
Was it his bad breath that threw you off?
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~
> ******SPV........You want the truth? You are as goofey as Ray just the
> other side of the coin. You and Ray make a pair. And he disobeys you
> want to obey. You need mental help. Why not go with Ray to see a good
> doctor?
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
Go, Stpehen, "GO"!!! You see? I can teach an old dog NEW tricks... Although
in this instance it is clear that Stpehen is trying with all his might to
keep from having to marry bRay, in the rather "shotgun" manner in which I
have arranged, thus the attempted "match-making". But it will do no good,
the script isn't going that way, believe me. After all, this IS just a
fiction, right? Stpehen?
And yesterday the thought came to me, that the time you sued your mama, was
in some passing manner run by the "Judge Judy" TV Show, but it somehow got
nixed... Remember? Well, seeing as to how this is all a fiction, why not
have an episode where you sue your mama on Judge Judy?
I've been watching JJ enough to know her mannerism, and of course, being
your best "wrost" student, I know YOUR mannerism, and so the only blind side
to this is GrammaJean... I can see it all now-- This could get good!
And now Stpehen, I want to discuss with you something you said in another
post about me being in "love" with you... As everyone here will attest, if
I've told you once, I've told you a million times, that hitting on me with
these kind of overt "hints" will do you absolutely no good. I don't want no
trouble from your hubby bRay. But about my dealing with you consistently
over a period of a number of years, all that can REALLY be said about that
is that YOU should be proud&delighted that a person of MY quality would even
stoop to deal with someone like yourself. You haven't done the BEST job of
growing&advancing out of my teachings&urgings, but it hasn't been a total
waste... I got you working, driving, and generally doing much better than
when I found you. And if you think it hasn't been easy, well it hasn't.
And so here is that on which I want you to start working, because you really
NEED to do this for your own good...
For starters, I want you to get YOUR head out of MY pants.
Secondly, I want you to make sure that you have your head at its
softest&roundest, along with your rather "soft, womanish" body (again, don't
forget the KY Jelly), for your wedding night. And knowing how shy you are,
you might consider starting off by taking a shower with bRay, because you
never can tell, you might be able to show each other a "jail-house" trick or
two in the "soap-dropping" arena, which would be a great way to "break the
ice", if you get my drift.
And lastly here, Stpehen, I have noticed a marked improvement in your
coherence&attention span. When I first started influencing you, you were
writing stuff that dealt with only the first few lines of a post. And
everyone here came to understand that we could say all kinds of things that
we didn't want YOU to know about, so we would just put it in the second
paragraph, or even further on. But now, you seem to be reading more of the
posts, which is one of my greatest accomplishments as far as getting you to
advance&grow is concerned.
Anyway, what I need from you here in these last days of the campaign is for
you to be a little more k00k-y, and while they haven't said anything about
it... (yet)... I think the AFABers are one of three things about your
impending marriage to bRay... Either they don't want to rock the boat. OR
they are so stunned by the "rightness" of the concept (talk about
transmitting shack-te-puttt), OR they are just now recovering from the
shock&AW, and are prolly in a clandestine manner, preparing an attack on ME
by mounting an attack on YOU! But don't worry a single hair on your head...
We are at condition RED, the entire "reserve" sock brigade is on standby,
and we will fight them in the trenches&trees, in the air&sea, and we will
never give up till THEY understand that "our" beloved k00k is better than
their benighted k00k...
And just as an aside, did you see that rather measly song that they cobbled
together for bRay? Couldn't hold a candle to our Ballad of the Boulder
Buddha Billy.
Oh, and before I forget... You need to maybe crank up the old buddhafield a
notch or two when it comes to RAPE there at your rather quaint ivy covered
factory of education. I understand that they are trying to cultivate an
image of ruthless invincibility for their football team, and were thinking
about changing their name from the Buffalo to "The Predators"... And after
what they did to the girl who couldn't kick the "balls through the upright",
there isn't a kicker on any team in the league that wouldn't have the
jitters, if you know what I mean. I mean, if they'd do that to one of their
OWN kickers, imagine what they would do to an ENEMY kicker...
Well, I see that I have wasted more time than I prolly should have on YOU,
but you know how I am... I just want to be helpful. You know what I'm
saying? :)
Heh heh heh heh :)
bookman
"Occasional AB Listener" <iam...@aol.com> wrote in message news:404020...@aol.com...
She'll ignore it. You didn't kowtow to the Sacred Screed first, so
nothing you could say will be accepted by her/them.
It is now a waiting game, I suspect: Which one will die first?
It would be sad and tragic, except for the fact that every
choice that the Kazoo makes favors their demise.
svanier
> "Occasional AB Listener" <iam...@aol.com> wrote in message news:404020...@aol.com...
>
>>Jimmy Snibbler wrote:
>>
>>>Occasional AB Listener <iam...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jimmy Snibbler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Occasional AB Listener <iam...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I felt compelled to interject and put in my two Abe Lincolns.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, you do exhibit symptoms of a manic, obsessive-compulsive
>>>>>personality disorder. Hell, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If criticizing Ray's delusional behavior makes me "manic,
>>>>obsessive-compulsive," then I guess so. And so would 99 percent of
>>>>society.
>>>
>>>I rest my case. You are sitting at your computer, obsessed with this.
>>>Admit it and you'll feel better.
>>
*****SPV.....Oh, how true. I have been saying this for years. I am
obsessed with it because Ray claims Christ Consciousness and with his
behavior the masses might line up and follow him to some punch
stupidity. I want that to stop. I need to expose Ray for the safety of
the children. But others? What is their motivation for hanging on
Ray's every word? Why does Dr.Postman just dine on each and every word
that Ray writes. He did not stick up for me the last time. Before he
did but now I guess the story I am writing like Stephen King writes his
long horror stories where I write my religious stories in todays age is
too much for him.
>>
>>You don't have a case.
>>
>>I feel better that I gave some sound advice to Anita Karczewski, Ray's
>>wife. I feel sorry that she is on a respirator and that she is
>>suffering tremendously. Whether she accepts or rejects my advice is
>>totally up to her.
>
>
> She'll ignore it. You didn't kowtow to the Sacred Screed first, so
> nothing you could say will be accepted by her/them.
*****SPV....They are afraid of the truth. It is another reason that you
know Ray to be phoney. A phoney will ignore the hard questions. A real
Christ will answer all question even when he is wrong. A real Christ
can admit when he is wrong. A real Christ will be wrong more than a
regular person because he will admit to the truth.
>
> It is now a waiting game, I suspect: Which one will die first?
> It would be sad and tragic, except for the fact that every
> choice that the Kazoo makes favors their demise.
And because Ray is a phoney nobody will care that much and his death
will be like dust in the wind. Nobody will miss him and nobody will
care. And that I find sad.
>
svanier
> Jimmy Snibbler wrote:
>
>>Occasional AB Listener <iam...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Jimmy Snibbler wrote:
>>>
>>>>Occasional AB Listener <iam...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I felt compelled to interject and put in my two Abe Lincolns.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, you do exhibit symptoms of a manic, obsessive-compulsive
>>>>personality disorder. Hell, isn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>>If criticizing Ray's delusional behavior makes me "manic,
>>>obsessive-compulsive," then I guess so. And so would 99 percent of
>>>society.
>>
>>I rest my case. You are sitting at your computer, obsessed with this.
>>Admit it and you'll feel better.
>
>
>
> You don't have a case.
>
> I feel better that I gave some sound advice to Anita Karczewski, Ray's
> wife. I feel sorry that she is on a respirator and that she is
> suffering tremendously. Whether she accepts or rejects my advice is
> totally up to her.
>
****SPV.....You did all you can do. They will not listen. They only
read or can hear what they want to hear. Even a drug addict is more
aware then they are and that's plenty sad for them.
svanier
> I rest my case. You are sitting at your computer, obsessed with this.
> Admit it and you'll feel better.
>
> --
> Jimmy Snibbler
>
>
>
****SPV./......As you are obsessed with me! Snibbler the Skipper of
denial riding into the wind on the Oblivious.
svanier
> In article <SGT%b.773$YG4....@news.uswest.net>, svanier
> <sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote:
>
>
>>>You are now at the crossroads, Anita. You can either take heed to my
>>>advice and see a drastic improvement in your own well-being (as well as
>>>those of your family members), or you can reject it and continue your
>>>downward spiral until you crash and burn. It's time to pull the
>>>throttle up and turn away from your reckless ways.
>>>
>>
>>******SPV........You want the truth? You are as goofey as FLUSH
>
>
> Stuff it, Veneer.
************************SPV......You know what I love about being me?
One day you will come to the realization that you have been barking up
the wrong tree and you will want to cover your ass and you will come to
be moaning with an apology and then we will see what you are made of.
Because then will be the day I judge you.
svanier
********SPV.....I hear that all the time myself. Maybe they were
talking to me instead of you. Anyway I have been reading what you write
and I judge you to be sincere. You have done nothing wrong. Go in
peace with God.
svanier
> Occasional AB Listener <iam...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I felt compelled to interject and put in my two Abe Lincolns.
>
>
> Yes, you do exhibit symptoms of a manic, obsessive-compulsive
> personality disorder. Hell, isn't it?
****SPV....So says Skippy, the skipper on the sailboat Oblivion talking
about things over his head.
svanier
> svanier wrote:
>
>
>>******SPV........You want the truth? You are as goofey as Ray just the
>>other side of the coin. You and Ray make a pair. And he disobeys you
>>want to obey. You need mental help. Why not go with Ray to see a good
>>doctor?
>
>
>
> What is "goofey" about saying that Raymond Karczewski must obey the law
> like the rest of us and that he is not Christ or a self-proclaimed
> deity?
*****SPV.....Good question and because you asked I will answer and not
be like Ray who will not answer an honest question. Why would you think
he would listen is what is goofey about it.
That and the fact that you say he needs to do this and that and you give
him a list of things he needs to do. Why do you believe you know what
another goofey person needs to do if you were not goofey like him? You
see the trap you are in. When you gave his a list of things to do you
set yourself up for being on his level with him. How do you know what
you suggest is right unless you went through the same problems he as and
are not just like him? As Ray did this health thing to himself you also
placed yourself on his level and that is goofey. You guys should go
together. Does this make sense to you.
Personally I don't know what Ray needs to do to fix himself. Those are
his lessons and his problems. I have my own problems different in
nature. (You see this????)
What is "goofey" about saying that Ray's woes are self-inflicted
> and that he has been costing himself and the taxpayers of Oregon
> thousands (or possibly) millions of dollars in unnecessary medical and
> legal expenses?
*******SPV.....It is not what you say that is goofey but that you know
the answer to another man's problems is goofey.
>
> I believe everything I said here is concise, lucid and to the point --
> not like Ray's rambling political and religious screeds.
>
> When you make such accusations, back them up with clear, convincing
> evidence or don't even respond at all.
******I just did and you are found wanting and I stick to it. You are
claiming to know what will fix another man's problems up and that is
being just plain stupid. So if what I said hurts your feelings what
does that tell you? I hit a nerve? I am telling you the truth and you
know it but are trying to deny it? Why do I have so much power over you
if I am wrong. If I said, "Your eyes are red you would just say, "You
are crazy." But I said something that hit you close to home and your
wings got flustered. A caught bird always is flustered.
Face the facts, I hit the nail on the head and you are bothered by what
I said. I told you the truth and you don't want to hear it because of
your own denial.
How about that? Is it clear and concise spanking your butt for you?
Should I make it clearer? Pluck the beam from thy own eye before you
work on your neighbor's splinter.
Do you think this fellow can hear me? Do you think me telling him the
truth will get through to him.
I tell you what? Why not gracefully thank me for the lesson and show
Ray how to listen and to grow. Or will you ignore me like Ray is going
to ignore you? If you want Ray to listen to you then you will have to
show him how to listen and how to gracefully be wrong.
Show Ray how it is done when you see something you did not see before.
(Now watch. Will this fellow practice what he preches? Why should Ray
listen if this fellow will not listen to his own problems. And another
reason you are goofey is that why bother with Ray when you have your own
problems? Why aren't you working on you instead of working on Ray. And
this is mainly why you and Ray are the same. Neither one of you are
working on things you can fix which is yourselves.
Can you hear me?) And if you can. Welcome to the club and I invite you
to join our group. I am going to put you in the service of God bringing
down crime. Does that appeal to you?
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>
>"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message
>news:56ev309b6fv5lh2cp...@4ax.com...
>> On 27 Feb 2004 10:23:09 EST, House Widdershins
>> <sini...@concentric.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>>
>> >X-No-Archive: Yes.
>> >On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:45:07 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>In article <jsH%b.617$YG4....@news.uswest.net>, svanier
>> >><sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Anita Karczewski wrote:
>> >>> > UPDATE !! MEDICAL UPDATE !!
>> >>
>> >>[snip]
>> >>
>> >>> ****************SPV.......Why does he say
>> >>
>> >>Who let Veneer back inside?
>> >>
>> >He came in the dog door.
>>
>> My bad. I thought it was the dog, walking backwards for some reason.
>
>Was it his bad breath that threw you off?
>
>ESL!
That, and the dental work.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>In article <403FED...@aol.com>, Occasional AB Listener
><iam...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> You are now at the crossroads, Anita. You can either take heed to my
>> advice and see a drastic improvement in your own well-being (as well as
>> those of your family members), or you can reject it and continue your
>> downward spiral until you crash and burn. It's time to pull the
>> throttle up and turn away from your reckless ways.
>
>Well said, unfortunately I fear it will fall on deaf ears.
>
Subscribe.
>
>-=-=-=-=-
>
>Official AFA-B Bully, Pest, and Gummint Disinformation Agent
--
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>
>******SPV........You want the truth?
From you? That would be a novel experience.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>Occasional AB Listener wrote:
>
>> svanier wrote:
>>
>>
>>>******SPV........You want the truth? You are as goofey as Ray just the
>>>other side of the coin. You and Ray make a pair. And he disobeys you
>>>want to obey. You need mental help. Why not go with Ray to see a good
>>>doctor?
>>
>>
>>
>> What is "goofey" about saying that Raymond Karczewski must obey the law
>> like the rest of us and that he is not Christ or a self-proclaimed
>> deity?
>
>*****SPV.....Good question and because you asked I will answer and not
>be like Ray who will not answer an honest question. Why would you think
>he would listen is what is goofey about it.
>
>That and the fact that you say he needs to do this and that and you give
>him a list of things he needs to do.
Because it's OBVIOUS, Numbnuts.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<alli...@livingston.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>Secondly, I want you to make sure that you have your head at its
>softest&roundest, along with your rather "soft, womanish" body (again, don't
>forget the KY Jelly), for your wedding night. And knowing how shy you are,
>you might consider starting off by taking a shower with bRay, because you
>never can tell, you might be able to show each other a "jail-house" trick or
>two in the "soap-dropping" arena, which would be a great way to "break the
>ice", if you get my drift.
I was thinking of getting them a gift certificate for Victoria's Other
Secret, for that "special night".
>
>Oh, and before I forget... You need to maybe crank up the old buddhafield a
>notch or two when it comes to RAPE there at your rather quaint ivy covered
>factory of education. I understand that they are trying to cultivate an
>image of ruthless invincibility for their football team, and were thinking
>about changing their name from the Buffalo to "The Predators"... And after
>what they did to the girl who couldn't kick the "balls through the upright",
>there isn't a kicker on any team in the league that wouldn't have the
>jitters, if you know what I mean. I mean, if they'd do that to one of their
>OWN kickers, imagine what they would do to an ENEMY kicker...
Between the CU "Rapists", Kobe Bryant, and, sadly, even the USAF
Academy down in Colorado Springs, looks like the Gouda Field hasn't
been working too well. On the other hand, one could reasonably
conclude that ***YKW doesn't consider abusing women to be a crime.
Carl R. Osterwald
<sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote:
> bookman wrote:
>
> > "Occasional AB Listener" <iam...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:404020...@aol.com...
> >
> >>Jimmy Snibbler wrote:
> >>
> >>>Occasional AB Listener <iam...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Jimmy Snibbler wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Occasional AB Listener <iam...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I felt compelled to interject and put in my two Abe Lincolns.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Yes, you do exhibit symptoms of a manic, obsessive-compulsive
> >>>>>personality disorder. Hell, isn't it?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>If criticizing Ray's delusional behavior makes me "manic,
> >>>>obsessive-compulsive," then I guess so. And so would 99 percent of
> >>>>society.
> >>>
> >>>I rest my case. You are sitting at your computer, obsessed with this.
> >>>Admit it and you'll feel better.
> >>
>
> *****SPV.....Oh, how true. I have been saying this for years. I am
> obsessed with it because Ray claims Christ Consciousness and with his
> behavior the masses might line up and follow him to some punch
> stupidity. I want that to stop. I need to expose Ray for the safety of
> the children.
What pompous blather. The only reason you bother to go after Ray is
that he is your arch-rival in the fake messiah biz.
Carl R. Osterwald
<sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote:
Dream faster, fraud.
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~
> I was thinking of getting them a gift certificate for Victoria's Other
> Secret, for that "special night".
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
Well, if you are going to get them one of those big, Black vibrators, make
sure it isn't made of hard plastic... We wouldn't want Stpehen chipping his
teeth, now would we? WELL, WOULD WE?.
VG:
> Between the CU "Rapists", Kobe Bryant, and, sadly, even the USAF
> Academy down in Colorado Springs, looks like the Gouda Field hasn't
> been working too well. On the other hand, one could reasonably
> conclude that ***YKW doesn't consider abusing women to be a crime.
~~~AW~~~:
Yeah, what's up with THAT, I wonder.
Are you going to be able to make enough barbecue brisket for the reception?
snowline
VG...AW...could i help with the catering too ? ....i have a menu in mind that
would please the bride....and i could throw in a little luke warm chicken broth
for the groom.... :)
svanier
8
**********SPV......No that is not true. I have no rival. I am the real
thing and he is a joke. Because he claimsed something that wasn't true
got me interested and now I just expose him because he Phoney.
I'm going to go get a Rock Road Choclete Milk Shake. Shit they cost
like 5$ but it's worth it.
Then I am coming home to go to bed early because tomorrow I am going to
Colorado Springs and I got to work all day. Plus sitting with my new
friends.
Can you believe that Billy Bob? He must be getting wind that the Buddha
that lives in Boulder is courting his Ashram. And the gossip just
spreads like wild fire and he must be hearing about it.
Otherwise why dress in Black and come to across from where I live twice
in Two days.
And what do you think? What's he going to think when he says, "That guy
is deluded you should see what the people say to him on the web." And
the people go, "Man can't you see the Halo. Yeah, he's on the web but
he's telling the truth and everyone else is just jealous. Can't you see
how obvious it is. They are jealous. Why don't you like him? Can't
you see the Aura the Halo? The Buddhafield?" And he is there going, "Oh."
Carl R. Osterwald
<sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote:
You are as real as a three-bill, Veneer.
svanier
****SPV....And you are dumb as a box of rocks.
The Nine
"The Nine" <iotaF...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d_90c.15422$TT5.10032@lakeread06...
> In message <403eff7f....@news.west.earthlink.net>,
ney...@earthlink.net
> (Anita Karczewski) wrote:
> >
> >
> > UPDATE !! MEDICAL UPDATE !!
>
> Now you're upset because you're getting exactly what you deserve? Gosh
Golly
> Gee Anita, I'm sorry your life didn't work out the way you wanted it to.
> I'm equally sorry that your sorry ass excuse for a husband's megalomania
> prevets him from taking
> care you, his dying wife. I'm sorry the two you have disrupted the lives
> of family members because of the hole you've dug for yourself. Maybe if
you
> had used that cranium for something other than a place to hold an oxygen
mask,
> you might not now be in this situation.
>
> Your choices, your problems. At the risk of offending you by way of the
cold
> hard truth...the only thing you and your fucked up hubby have man?
You know what, I'm really sorry about that, Anita. Sometimes the Pocket PC
hiccups, and I just want to make sure you and your brainless, spineless,
gutless, and nutless husband get the full "malicious debased spirit of the
present day american male." about the best thing Ray ever said, actually.
As I was saying, it's apparently obvious that none of that oxygen you
apparently need to live is making anywhere near your brain. If it were,
chances are you wouldn't be wallowing in the shitpile you now find yourself
in. The only thing that you and Ray have managed to do in the 8 plus years
you've been shoveling excrement here, is prove the only "human debris"
around here is the two of you. I continue to be shocked that the law of
Natural Selection didn't take the two of you out long ago. Society must go
a ridiculously long way to protect the brain dead in your neck of the woods.
I see other people in this thread who are sorry about your condition. I
have no compunction telling you that I am not. As vicious as you and your
husband have been to others--some of them dead and not able to defend
themselves--you earned this karma check, bitch. I will enjoy hearing about
every chunk taken out of your collective and considerable ass.
It's your hell, You made it. Now, why don't you examples of why Darwin was
right go find a nice cozy spot in the corner and burn in it together?
Fuck your dumbass deluded husband, fuck your stupid twig and berry munching
bigoted militia bullshit, fuck your oh so glaring hypocrisy, and by all
means, go fuck yourself. But, wash up first. Not even YOU know where's
it's been all these years.
Oh. Yeah. God Bless You.
Fuckhead.
The Nine
http://locnetwork.com
svanier
******SPV.................You know I must agree with you. And remember
what Ray used to say? "Hell isn't it." And boy did he find himself in
his own man made hell. Isn't it funny how he expected people to revolt
to protect him. No way man. They let Jesus rot up on the cross and
they didn't do anything for Socrates or Osho and they didn't help
Gurdjieff and they certain didn't do anything to help me.
They are not Masters of History so it caught them flat footed.
Just shows you they don't know the truth and they are dumb as a box of
rocks.
Emmett Heinz Curley Bartlo
I am subscribing to this so hard it broke off my keycaps! 8%(0)
The Nine
"Jimmy Snibbler" <m...@my.forest> wrote in message
news:soq240du7bgked31v...@4ax.com...
> God or your father.
Hell Snibbler, I was cursed with a bad hair life.
To borrow a quote, "It's not God I have problem with. Some of the members
of his fan club, on the other hand..."
The Nine
http://locnetwork.com
svanier
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:06:40 -0500, "The Nine" <iotaF...@hotmail.com>
> observed:
>
>
>
>>Hell Snibbler, I was cursed with a bad hair life.
>>
>>To borrow a quote, "It's not God I have problem with. Some of the members
>>of his fan club, on the other hand..."
>
>
> I agree with this poast.
*****SPV.......You see all these links that Ray K. writes too? I just
wanted you to know that Crime is down over 50% since I got Enlightened
and it sure looks like I am the Messiah. I tell you why.
When I was in California back in 1995 I said my Buddhafield would draw
down the negativity from everyone's ego and crime will drop. The
negativity energy of anger mixed with too much sexual energy causes
rape. If someone were to absorb that energy from people then he would
cause crime to drop.
So then years later crime is down over 50% and I moved to Colorado and
now Denver is going into the lead and crime in California is now not
going down as fast as it was when I was there. In other words it goes
down the fastest where I am living.
The next reason for me to be the Messiah is that it is time at the year
2000 for the Messiah to show up.
The third reason is that I came a white American with a University
Education from Berekeley during the late 1969 and early seventies during
the riots, and I was there then, and I am here now.
The third reason is when I get around any Ashram my aura is so profound
and pronounced that everyone just takes one look and it is all over. As
Jesus said, "Those with eyes should see and those with ears should hear."
And just hanging around I am the Guru to Osho's People. And they better
start to act right or shit will hit the fan. I am the Guru to Siddha
Yoga and Gurumayi should watch her ass or someone is going to own it. I
am the Guru to Yogananada's Ashrams in LA. I am Guru to a hole bunch of
Hollywood starts, BUT ONLY THE MEN AND WOMAN THAT CAN HANDLE THE REAL
THING. OR AS JACK SAID, "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH."
I am the heir to Jesus Christ in the United States where there is a
Church on each and every corner of each and every block.
You see I am the most successful Guru of all time and I am only 51.
Plus the government and I have bonded and many of the best and highest
agencies of the United States Government have bonded. I don't do
anything without consulting them and I don't do anything without them
consulting me. And on top of all of that, my wisdom is the most
profound and intelligent wisdom, meaning it is the most real and current
with the happenings of today than anything out there.
So now you guys should watch how crime goes down to about 10% of 1992
levels and that is how the country will know that the Messiah has come.
When it is 90% of the level of 1992 which of you will say, "Oh, I have
read his stuff, he is full of shit."
And then we are going to have this party.
Oh, come here come here. Did I ever tell you how this ends? Ok, listen
to me. Bush you got to do something to prove you were with me. I will
tell you why. This is the truth and I will stand by this because I had
this vision and I saw how it will be at the end. So take the Heed.
At the end there will be like 65% of the American Public knowing the
truth and there will be 35% that are oblivious. The oblivious like, who
is the guy with the haircut who's girl got killed in Washington and his
career got ruined and he didn't do a thing? They will be like that guy
that just fucked me over out of being square and stupidity and he got so
fucked he has to get up in the morning and kick himself in the ass.
You see he knew about me and he didn't believe the truth put right in
front of him and he told me to go fuck myself and he went and fucked
himself. He was laughing with his fiends and he said, "Messiah, Guru?
You tell him to go fuck himself." He found out I said, "OK, so you give
so shall you receive." And he fucked himself with that little ugly
piece of shit. His wife had to say, "Couldn't you at least get a good
looking girl. You're a fucking dog fucker like Clinton."
Caught, caught, caught.
So at the end there will be 70% that knows the truth because I have been
doing this and watching people bit the big one for ten years now and we
all laugh and watch. And we will watch them eat it and we will laugh
and say, "He thought he knew the deal and to shit on Jesus was really a
fucking mistake because the "Right Hand of God" is here and he digs Jesus."
And they bite the big one, just one after the other and we are laughing
and laughing.
It's like Judi, she is going to be washing clothes for a living. Just
taking in laundry for a living with her kid in jail and we will be
laughing at the woman who said, "I don't care who you are. I don't care
if I am playing the role of Judas just as long as I can hurt you."
And she will be washing clothes and reading letters from her son in jail
watching her daughter die from a bad heart.
What can I do when the karma is there. Just like Ray she brought it on
herself. Ray is dying to be a martyr and yet he doesn't have anything
to maryr for? He got no point to his insanity.
Anyway just watch because down the line I get to watch all of them come
to apologize because the karma is too strong to ignore.
And isn't that how life should be. When they fuck you shouldn't they
have to come to beg for forgiveness or lose their loved ones?
They should because they ruined me so should they not be ruined but
10,000 fold as the spiritual law decrees?
So just watch....And this is my Sunday Sermon.
Bush you got to do something. You got to say something. You got to
take a stance. Otherwise it is another bullshit story. You are
religious but when real religion shows itself you are nowhere to be
found. You got to make a statement. In or out.
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
Yeah, OK, whatever...
Stpehen, now that you got that out of your system, and are through with all
the bullshit stuff, let's get on to something REALLY important...
I'm getting ready to clean my coffee maker. And what I wanted to know is:
"In your opinion, should I run some vinegar through it, or should I just
wipe it down with a damp rag.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<alli...@livingston.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>Vanilla Gorilla wrote:
Oh, yes. In fact, I made a couple of them just yesterday, for
'practice'.
--
V.G.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
Emmett Heinz Curley Bartlo
> BaronLurk wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:06:40 -0500, "The Nine" <iotaF...@hotmail.com>
>> observed:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hell Snibbler, I was cursed with a bad hair life.
>>>
>>> To borrow a quote, "It's not God I have problem with. Some of the
>>> members
>>> of his fan club, on the other hand..."
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with this poast.
>
> *****SPV.......You see all these links that Ray K. writes too? I just
> wanted you to know that Crime is down over 50% since I got Enlightened
> and it sure looks like I am the Messiah. I tell you why.
>
> When I was in California back in 1995 I said my Buddhafield would draw
> down the negativity from everyone's ego and crime will drop. The
> negativity energy of anger mixed with too much sexual energy causes
> rape. If someone were to absorb that energy from people then he would
> cause crime to drop.
>
> So then years later crime is down over 50%
Oh really. I have a special lollipop that keep rhinoceroces away, you
fucking kook. All I have to do is wave it at the four points of the
compass, and PRESTO! no herds of rhinocerii stampeding down the streets.
svanier
*****SPV.....Ask your boyfriend he's got to be worth more than just
packing your Hersey Highway.
svanier
> BaronLurk <n...@home.now> wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:06:40 -0500, "The Nine" <iotaF...@hotmail.com>
>>observed:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hell Snibbler, I was cursed with a bad hair life.
>>>
>>>To borrow a quote, "It's not God I have problem with. Some of the members
>>>of his fan club, on the other hand..."
>>
>>I agree with this poast.
>
>
> Let's see. Nine said he hopes that bad things happen to his enemies,
> Ray and Anita. Contrast that with how Stephen of the New Testament
> prayed to God to forgive the people who were stoning him to death.
> Then, Nine concludes by saying "God Bless You. Fuckhead."
>
> Nine was mocking God. Nine feels quite safe in that activity, mocking
> God and wishing harm to his enemies. Nine has a lot to learn. Nine
> is a liar, he does indeed have a problem with God or he wouldn't have
> mocked Him and defied His Word by wishing more harm to befall Ray and
> Anita, to his own obvious pleasure.
*******SPV...Boy are you looking in the mirror Snibbler. YOu mock me
and I am a God compared to you. Your karma is at an all time low.
Snibbler, if you can say this what happens if I am the Second Coming.
How much karma trouble will you be in then? I mean you can't believe
how you have just fucked yourself. All of you guys are going to be like
Ray. You just fucked me by your own words and I am the real thing so
you and all the rest that took me at a whim are in the same spot as Ray.
He was just the dumbest and the worst of the bunch. Now watch the
rest including yourself eat the big one after ruinning your karma on my
tough hide. Just wait and we will be laughing at your shortly. And
will you tell us as the bad news assaults you? Are you going to admit
the truth as the karma eats you alive?
>
> That is why Nine will probably continue to be cursed and feeling angry
> about the Hell he has made of his life.
>
> Which part is confusing about this, my friend?
>
> By agreeing with his poast, you are choosing to associate with him. I
> choose not to do that, nor do I want to kick a man/wife when they are
> down. I'm sick of that at this point.
>
> Heck, maybe I'll even call Ray at the hospital today and wish him
> well.
********SPV....Why bother I am here and you have insulted the Messiah,
the son of God and the Second Coming of Christ and you are karmically
really fucked up. YOu better call me and apologize if you know what is
good for you. But you don't and the longer it goes the more deadly it
gets. If you notice the karma is taking people completely out of the
game. I mean Gurumayi may shit on me but she comes to me regularly to
makes things better. She is always thinking of me and coming to me and
I mean it. Shit she found a new toy because she know which side to
butter the bread on. You on the other hand a just screwed. Are you not
listening. Amma is so scared she pulled all her pictures off the web.
Every last on of them. What does Gurumayi think of that? She couldn't
handle it. She thinks having some fun and sex is evil and she doesn't
know how to say she is sorry to a Krishna. Her karma will be something
to watch. She has rejected me totally.
I mean why not stab yourself in the heart?
Right Patricia? Am I so bad? Patricia am I that bad of guy?
>
> --
> Jimmy Snibbler
svanier
*****SPV.......Why do you make fun? Crime is down. The proof is right
there. Crime is going to zero. It is dropping each and every year.
The second coming is here somewhere. All we have to do is find them.
They/It is/are right here/there somewhere in the Mid-west. Now the
proof is in the dropping crime rate so you make fund but I am looking
for the Messiah. You know somehow history is repreating itself and the
tree wise men is a grand role. I am going to be one of the Three Wise
Men and take the Baby Christ something of jewels and money or whatever
he wants. I am going to find the Messiah and shower gifts on him to
insure that God loves me also and bring up my karma to a point where it
is showing pleasantries on me like the Cornicopia.
svanier
kiss those that claim to be Enlightened and the son of God's ass just
out of respect for God? One day the real Messiah will come and you will
be slitting your own throat because of some petty minor jealousy.
IN India they do it the other way around because they know what I am
going to do is just show you as they all eat the big one this time just
to show you how not to fuck up again. The karma is 10,000 time normal.
If I am the real thing Frank and Ellen and Piph and all the rest are
going to suck egg the rest of their life. It's not worth the gamble.
Are you guys so sure I am not the Messiah? Unless you are positive I
would not risk that gamble.
Emmett Heinz Curley Bartlo
No, it isn't, you stupid fucking dipshit. Are you aware of the
relationship between cause and effect? Your supposed "Buddhafield" has
nothing to do with crime, except that it is a crime to be a fraud.
Emmett Heinz Curley Bartlo
Not as stupid as some moron who claims that crime is down because he's
got a big "Buddhafield".
Reverend Al
Rocky Road, or Hershey Highway?
Emmett Heinz Curley Bartlo
svanier likes his with corn in it.
Reverend Al
That was me. You have nothing to do with the crime drop. It was me. You are
trying to take the credit, but you have no bona fides.
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~
> Ask your boyfriend he's got to be worth more than just packing your Hersey
Highway.
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
Poor child, talking about himself and projecting it onto me.
1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - OUT!
WINNER AND STILL HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPEEN OF THE WORLD...
~~~ALLISONNNNNNN WONNNNNDERLAND~~~!!!!!
BaronLurk
<eh...@kookhallofame.com> observed:
>svanier wrote:
>
>> *****SPV.......You see all these links that Ray K. writes too? I just
>> wanted you to know that Crime is down over 50% since I got Enlightened
>> and it sure looks like I am the Messiah. I tell you why.
>>
>> When I was in California back in 1995 I said my Buddhafield would draw
>> down the negativity from everyone's ego and crime will drop. The
>> negativity energy of anger mixed with too much sexual energy causes
>> rape. If someone were to absorb that energy from people then he would
>> cause crime to drop.
>>
>> So then years later crime is down over 50%
>
>
>Oh really. I have a special lollipop that keep rhinoceroces away, you
>fucking kook. All I have to do is wave it at the four points of the
>compass, and PRESTO! no herds of rhinocerii stampeding down the streets.
Ah, You have the rhinoceroses lollipop! I have the root beer barrels that
keep elephants at bay, and Postie has the BBQ sauce that keeps wild wombats
in the southern hemisphere.
Now, if only we could find the cure for blatant kookism.......
svanier
******SPV.........Yes and while you are at it find the one for obvious
stupidity and take an extra helping for yourself.
OK then wiseacre you tell us why Crime is down over 50% in each and ever
catagory across the USA and why they don't talk about it in the news???
Then when you see that it is true answer the question of how it got that
way. I want to hear how someone as dumb as you gets out of this one.
svanier
*********SPV..........Neither did Buddha or Jesus. They were not bona
fide either. And the church has no bona fides with me? So everyone has
no bona fides.
svanier
*****SPV.......Why shouldn't I? Do you know why crime is down or do you
just know that it is not the Buddhafield? How do you know?>
svanier
****SPV........Yes I have explained to cause and effect. Tell us how
you know it is not the Buddhafield? And look at your jealous anger.
You are obviously crazy. If you know something share it with us. Tell
how you know for a fact that crime is not down because of the
Buddhafield. I have explained it to the last detail and I am much more
believeable than your hollow claims. So stop being so shallow and give
your proof.
Emmett Heinz Curley Bartlo
It isn't, you ignorant twat.
Emmett Heinz Curley Bartlo
> Emmett Heinz Curley Bartlo wrote:
>
>
>>> ****SPV.,....You guys are really stupid.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not as stupid as some moron who claims that crime is down because he's
>> got a big "Buddhafield".
>>
>
> *****SPV.......Why shouldn't I? Do you know why crime is down
Yes. It's a combination of preventive measures, increased security,
increased penalties, and the like. Your "Buddhafield" is in your head,
you deluded dipshit.
Emmett Heinz Curley Bartlo
> Emmett Heinz Curley Bartlo wrote:
>
>
>>
>> No, it isn't, you stupid fucking dipshit. Are you aware of the
>> relationship between cause and effect? Your supposed "Buddhafield" has
>> nothing to do with crime, except that it is a crime to be a fraud.
>>
> ****SPV........Yes I have explained to cause and effect. Tell us how
> you know it is not the Buddhafield?
Because the "Buddhafield" is a made-up bullshit term that means
absolutely fucking nothing, you nutcase.
The Nine
"Jimmy Snibbler" <m...@my.forest> wrote in message
> BaronLurk <n...@home.now> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:06:40 -0500, "The Nine" <iotaF...@hotmail.com>
> >observed:
> >
> >
> >>
> >>To borrow a quote, "It's not God I have problem with. Some of the
members
> >>of his fan club, on the other hand..."
> >
>
> Ray and Anita.
Damn Straight. They are the cause of their own problems, they deserve every
little disaster that drops on their lap.
> Contrast that with how Stephen of the New Testament
> prayed to God to forgive the people who were stoning him to death.
> Then, Nine concludes by saying "God Bless You. Fuckhead."
Have I offended yet ANOTHER Christian's tender sensabilities? Damn. And I
was having such a good day....
Snibbler, how much of this is because I'm just an evil bastard where Ray and
Anita is concerned, and how much of this is because I dared
use the words God and Fucktard in the same sentence? I ask merely for
informational purposes.
>
> Nine was mocking God. Nine feels quite safe in that activity, mocking
> God and wishing harm to his enemies. Nine has a lot to learn. Nine
> is a liar, he does indeed have a problem with God or he wouldn't have
> mocked Him and defied His Word by wishing more harm to befall Ray and
> Anita, to his own obvious pleasure.
About the only thing you've got right here is that I have lots to learn.
Would you have felt a little less offended if I had said
"Have a nice day. Fucktard."? I am constantly amazed how the use of one
word can send all the little puritans into a frenzy.
I'm an athiest. I don't believe in God. I don't mock or have problems with
God. I simply don't believe he exists. If I mock anything,
it's folks who assume that I share anything resembling their own morals and
customs, and other assorted hangups. And yes, THAT I get some pleasure
from,
from time to time.
Arguing whether or not I wish the Kazoos "More harm" is like arguing that
"She was only a little pregnant." They have been harmed by their own
actions. It is their continued actions that will
decide if more harm befalls them.
>
> That is why Nine will probably continue to be cursed and feeling angry
> about the Hell he has made of his life.
And you are an expert on my life based on...?
Dude, the path to my own personal happiness isn't the same as yours. Why
not attend to your own personal Heaven or Hell, instead of projecting it on
me, mmkay?
>
> Which part is confusing about this, my friend?
The fact that you give two squirts of warm piss? That's a great starting
point.
>
> By agreeing with his poast, you are choosing to associate with him. I
> choose not to do that, nor do I want to kick a man/wife when they are
> down. I'm sick of that at this point.
Good for you, man. Live how you gotta live, man. I'll do the same, if it's
all the same to you? Thanks.
>
> Heck, maybe I'll even call Ray at the hospital today and wish him
> well.
Your dime. I think it will fall on deaf ears. But I don't fancy myself an
arbiter of taste and character. Apparently, you do. I'll leave you to it.
The Nine
http://locnetwork.com
Reverend Al
Oh yes they did! Go back and read your dogmas, Veneer.
> And the church has no bona fides with me? So everyone has
> no bona fides.
No bona fides, no license to practice religion. Sorry.
No bona fides, no flock. Is there anything more obvious?
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
HAY Emmett (may I call you Emmett?), you are going to have to excuse our
beloved GooRoo. He isn't quite ALL there, if you know what I mean. He has
this delusion that crime is somehow down, even though "each day the paper
boy brings more" (PinkFloyd). I just figure that with having so little to
make him happy, that ***YKW is entitled that little comfy illusion that
crime is somehow falling due to his unconscious efforts.
But just let me say this... If unconscious effort would lower crime, that
Stpehen WOULD be the best bet to be the one unconscious enough for it to
come true... Such is his sleep.
And just in closing, I wouldn't worry too much about Stpehen... He's
harmless, ineffectual, and for the most part just a little, ugly, queer,
bald-headed P-R-I-C-K! His father (whomever HE is), was prolly the same way!
I'll tell you the secret to living with a disease like ***GooRooMooPoo, and
that's to daily make up a little song about him... It's as good a method to
keep him away from you as the RhinosaurusLollipop, or any of those other
esoteric means to keep elephants, and other strange creatures from
stampeeding. Like we here in Texas have learned that the way you keep a bull
from stampeeding is to cut off his stampeeder! :) I wonder if that would
keep ***YKW from running amok? Whether or not it really would is
unimportant. The important thing is to cut him ANY WHICH WAY YOU CAN!
So here is today's song:
(to the tune of "The Ballad of Davy Crockett")
Born in a dumpster behind the li-brar-eeee,
Stole himself a stereo when he was only three,
Raised on titty milk and his daddy's cum
Which explains to everyone why he is so dum(b).
Master, Master Moosepoop,
King of the stupid retort...
Heh heh heh heh :)
Now, Emmett... If you will sing this song just once today, it will keep
Stpehen away till tomorrow's song.
masterbaiter
to all 'idiots' and perpetuators of vanity and egoic megalomania.
buzzards got to eat, just like a worm.
The Nine wrote in message <_rz0c.19440$TT5.2266@lakeread06>...
The Nine
"masterbaiter" <mb1@bite_me.com> wrote in message
news:4043c...@news.iglou.com...
> bored you two?
Yes, I think you have.
The Nine
http://locnetwork.com
English. Look into it.
masterbaiter
The Nine wrote in message ...
>
>"masterbaiter" <mb1@bite_me.com> wrote in message
>news:4043c...@news.iglou.com...
>> bored you two?
>
>Yes, I think you have.
that's nice, maybe you need a new belly button to play with...
The Nine
"masterbaiter" <mb1@bite_me.com> wrote in message
news:4043c...@news.iglou.com...
>
> The Nine wrote in message ...
> >
> >"masterbaiter" <mb1@bite_me.com> wrote in message
> >news:4043c...@news.iglou.com...
> >> bored you two?
> >
> >Yes, I think you have.
>
> that's nice, maybe you need a new belly button to play with...
>
Nah. I like mine. It's shiny.
The Nine
http://locnetwork.com
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~
> bored you two?
> to all 'idiots' and perpetuators of vanity and egoic megalomania.
> buzzards got to eat, just like a worm.
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
And so does The Mighty Birdtribe and my long lost fren ~woRm~!
Anyway: "Idiots"? "Perpetuators of Vanity"? (and by extrapolation)
"Perpetuators of Egoic Megalomania"?
I love the categories you used...
But as I stilled my mind, bringing to it quiescence&stillness, it became
clear to me as I was contemplating YOUR somewhat cryptic statement, that
rather than: Trying to see WHO fits into each category, it would prolly be
easier to list the WHOMEVER, and then see if He/She deserves to be CREDITED
with one, two, or maybe all three of the categories.
You see, there are some that fit into only one of the categories, and then
there are some who even score in two of these three categories. But if
you're good, I mean REALLY good, you can qualify for all the categories and
you know what THAT means!!!
Of course there are some who fit into none of the categories, but I haven't
seen any of THEM around here recently, except for me and of course, Gordon.
And Myraide is showing promise, but it's too soon to really tell. I mean,
RENO? "Porache"? "Timex"? And she can still her mind for three minutes right
out of the box? Is it any wonder that I find her so fetching? So... so...
so... Oh... Back to what I was saying... Being able to keep one's mind from
wandering will keep you from becoming categorized in any of YOUR
categories...
I mean, alright, OK? There's me, and Gordon, and maybe Myraide, and then
there's YOU of course, and don't forget Reverend Al. And anyone who's
entered the Brotherhood of the Spoon competition is exempt from YOUR
categories... Anyway, who else IS there? Maybe Barbee? Or Rev. Helen
Hiwater? Naaaaaaaaaa, it's obvious that RHHDD is definitely at least a two
category girl... Oh, and anyone from <alt.solipsism> is also exempt, except
for Mahja-urana.
Well, in the progression of consideration YOU knew that sooner or later, the
wondering about how many categories does our favorite vain, egotistical,
megalomanic, idiot get? You know, "The one, the onl....
NO! I'm not going to do it... Where is Gnaustica when we NEED him?
Hope this finds you doing well...
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<alli...@livingston.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>svanier wrote:
>> You see all these links that Ray K. writes too? I just
>> wanted you to know that Crime is down over 50% since I got Enlightened
>> and it sure looks like I am the Messiah. I tell you why.
>>
>> When I was in California back in 1995 I said my Buddhafield would draw
>> down the negativity from everyone's ego and crime will drop. The
>> negativity energy of anger mixed with too much sexual energy causes
>> rape. If someone were to absorb that energy from people then he would
>> cause crime to drop.
>>
>> So then years later crime is down over 50% and I moved to Colorado and
>> now Denver is going into the lead and crime in California is now not
>> going down as fast as it was when I was there. In other words it goes
>> down the fastest where I am living.
>>
>> The next reason for me to be the Messiah is that it is time at the year
>> 2000 for the Messiah to show up.
>>
>> The third reason is that I came a white American with a University
>> Education from Berekeley during the late 1969 and early seventies during
>> the riots, and I was there then, and I am here now.
>>
>> The third reason is when I get around any Ashram my aura is so profound
>> and pronounced that everyone just takes one look and it is all over. As
>> Jesus said, "Those with eyes should see and those with ears should hear."
>>
>> And just hanging around I am the Guru to Osho's People. And they better
>> start to act right or shit will hit the fan. I am the Guru to Siddha
>> Yoga and Gurumayi should watch her ass or someone is going to own it. I
>> am the Guru to Yogananada's Ashrams in LA. I am Guru to a hole bunch of
>> Hollywood starts, BUT ONLY THE MEN AND WOMAN THAT CAN HANDLE THE REAL
>> THING. OR AS JACK SAID, "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH."
>>
>> I am the heir to Jesus Christ in the United States where there is a
>> Church on each and every corner of each and every block.
>>
>> You see I am the most successful Guru of all time and I am only 51.
>>
>> Plus the government and I have bonded and many of the best and highest
>> agencies of the United States Government have bonded. I don't do
>> anything without consulting them and I don't do anything without them
>> consulting me. And on top of all of that, my wisdom is the most
>> profound and intelligent wisdom, meaning it is the most real and current
>> with the happenings of today than anything out there.
>>
>> So now you guys should watch how crime goes down to about 10% of 1992
>> levels and that is how the country will know that the Messiah has come.
>> When it is 90% of the level of 1992 which of you will say, "Oh, I have
>> read his stuff, he is full of shit."
>>
>> And then we are going to have this party.
>>
>> Oh, come here come here. Did I ever tell you how this ends? Ok, listen
>> to me. Bush you got to do something to prove you were with me. I will
>> tell you why. This is the truth and I will stand by this because I had
>> this vision and I saw how it will be at the end. So take the Heed.
>>
>> At the end there will be like 65% of the American Public knowing the
>> truth and there will be 35% that are oblivious. The oblivious like, who
>> is the guy with the haircut who's girl got killed in Washington and his
>> career got ruined and he didn't do a thing? They will be like that guy
>> that just fucked me over out of being square and stupidity and he got so
>> fucked he has to get up in the morning and kick himself in the ass.
>>
>> You see he knew about me and he didn't believe the truth put right in
>> front of him and he told me to go fuck myself and he went and fucked
>> himself. He was laughing with his fiends and he said, "Messiah, Guru?
>> You tell him to go fuck himself." He found out I said, "OK, so you give
>> so shall you receive." And he fucked himself with that little ugly
>> piece of shit. His wife had to say, "Couldn't you at least get a good
>> looking girl. You're a fucking dog fucker like Clinton."
>>
>> Caught, caught, caught.
>>
>> So at the end there will be 70% that knows the truth because I have been
>> doing this and watching people bit the big one for ten years now and we
>> all laugh and watch. And we will watch them eat it and we will laugh
>> and say, "He thought he knew the deal and to shit on Jesus was really a
>> fucking mistake because the "Right Hand of God" is here and he digs
>Jesus."
>>
>> And they bite the big one, just one after the other and we are laughing
>> and laughing.
>>
>> It's like Judi, she is going to be washing clothes for a living. Just
>> taking in laundry for a living with her kid in jail and we will be
>> laughing at the woman who said, "I don't care who you are. I don't care
>> if I am playing the role of Judas just as long as I can hurt you."
>>
>> And she will be washing clothes and reading letters from her son in jail
>> watching her daughter die from a bad heart.
>>
>> What can I do when the karma is there. Just like Ray she brought it on
>> herself. Ray is dying to be a martyr and yet he doesn't have anything
>> to maryr for? He got no point to his insanity.
>>
>> Anyway just watch because down the line I get to watch all of them come
>> to apologize because the karma is too strong to ignore.
>>
>> And isn't that how life should be. When they fuck you shouldn't they
>> have to come to beg for forgiveness or lose their loved ones?
>>
>> They should because they ruined me so should they not be ruined but
>> 10,000 fold as the spiritual law decrees?
>>
>> So just watch....And this is my Sunday Sermon.
>>
>> Bush you got to do something. You got to say something. You got to
>> take a stance. Otherwise it is another bullshit story. You are
>> religious but when real religion shows itself you are nowhere to be
>> found. You got to make a statement. In or out.
>
>~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
>Yeah, OK, whatever...
>
>Stpehen, now that you got that out of your system, and are through with all
>the bullshit stuff, let's get on to something REALLY important...
>
>I'm getting ready to clean my coffee maker. And what I wanted to know is:
>"In your opinion, should I run some vinegar through it, or should I just
>wipe it down with a damp rag.
>
>Heh heh heh heh :)
>
>
>
If it's been more than six months since you did it the last time, you
should go with the vinegar, Dude. I would even recommend not using
any that has already had pickles in it. But that's just me.
--
V.G.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
"People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it is easier to harrass
rich women than it is motorcycle gangs." - Bumper Sticker
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>
>*******SPV...Boy are you looking in the mirror Snibbler. YOu mock me
Everyone mocks you, and for good reason. The fact that you still
can't figure out why casts even more doubt on your alleged
'enlightenment'.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
>svanier wrote:
>
>> BaronLurk wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:06:40 -0500, "The Nine" <iotaF...@hotmail.com>
>>> observed:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hell Snibbler, I was cursed with a bad hair life.
>>>>
>>>> To borrow a quote, "It's not God I have problem with. Some of the
>>>> members
>>>> of his fan club, on the other hand..."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with this poast.
>>
>> *****SPV.......You see all these links that Ray K. writes too? I just
>> wanted you to know that Crime is down over 50% since I got Enlightened
>> and it sure looks like I am the Messiah. I tell you why.
>>
>> When I was in California back in 1995 I said my Buddhafield would draw
>> down the negativity from everyone's ego and crime will drop. The
>> negativity energy of anger mixed with too much sexual energy causes
>> rape. If someone were to absorb that energy from people then he would
>> cause crime to drop.
>>
>> So then years later crime is down over 50%
>
>
>Oh really. I have a special lollipop that keep rhinoceroces away, you
>fucking kook. All I have to do is wave it at the four points of the
>compass, and PRESTO! no herds of rhinocerii stampeding down the streets.
YOU THEIVING WHORE!! I was wondering what happened to that.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>>
>*****SPV.......Why do you make fun?
Because you're a retard.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<eh...@kookhallofame.com> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>> *****SPV.......Why do you make fun? Crime is down. The proof is right
>> there.
>
>No, it isn't, you stupid fucking dipshit. Are you aware of the
>relationship between cause and effect? Your supposed "Buddhafield" has
>nothing to do with crime, except that it is a crime to be a fraud.
Even his attempt at fraud is so inept, I'm not sure it's technically
illegal.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<eh...@kookhallofame.com> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>svanier wrote:
OK, besides that?
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<eh...@kookhallofame.com> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>Not as stupid as some moron who claims that crime is down because he's
>got a big "Buddhafield".
I've explained it to him, over and over. It's his "Goudafield", i.e.,
he stinks like cheese.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<alli...@livingston.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>So here is today's song:
>(to the tune of "The Ballad of Davy Crockett")
>
>Born in a dumpster behind the li-brar-eeee,
>Stole himself a stereo when he was only three,
>Raised on titty milk and his daddy's cum
>Which explains to everyone why he is so dum(b).
>Master, Master Moosepoop,
>King of the stupid retort...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<eh...@kookhallofame.com> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>>>
>>>I'm going to go get a Rock Road Choclete Milk Shake. Shit they cost
>>>like 5$ but it's worth it.
>>
>>
>> Rocky Road, or Hershey Highway?
>>
>>
>svanier likes his with corn in it.
And peanuts!
Sineater
"The Nine" <iotaF...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BAQ0c.19926$TT5.6396@lakeread06...
Now I have no belly button. Sutures from an umbilical hernia took care of
that. I have nothing to contemplate upon. No place for stomach fuzz to
collect and be retrieved . I'm neither inny, nor outty.
Sineater
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
VanGo, I want you to straighten up, you hear me? :)
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~
> Even his attempt at fraud is so inept, I'm not sure it's technically
> illegal.
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
Kind of like ripping off a million dollars in counterfeit money?
Anyway VanGo, I got up this morning to a computer room full of little, ugly,
queer, bald-headed G-O-A-T-S !!! It was apa-a-a-a-a-a-ling! And I also
noticed that they all look like they have been molested, if you get my
drift! Poor little old things, seemed so happy to be here where they are
safe and there's lots of grass to eat and LOTS of water to drink.
Anyway VG, do you have a good recipe for Cabrito?
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~
> If it's been more than six months since you did it the last time, you
> should go with the vinegar, Dude. I would even recommend not using
> any that has already had pickles in it. But that's just me.
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
I figured as much. It is running a little slow, but I don't use it for
coffee. I use it to heat water for the cat's breakfast. I'll go put the
vinegar in it right now...
You hang in there, you hear?
svanier
****SPV.....What a bunch of stupid queer fucks. Did you see the picture
Frank put up when we were all putting up our pictures? Frank has his
shirt off and there was a mirror in the background and if you looked in
it you saw the picture of his boyfriend with his shirt off playing grab
ass stink finger at Franks place. Fucking queers love to roam around
with their shirts off and rubbing up against each other. His picture
looked like it came from some San Francisco bar. Guys dancing with
their tops off.
He Frank, do you really think you are smart as I am? Hahahahahahaha.
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~
> What a bunch of stupid queer fucks.
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
Poor child, talking about his multiple personalities, and projecting it onto
us!
s:
> Did you see the picture
> Frank put up when we were all putting up our pictures? Frank has his
> shirt off and there was a mirror in the background and if you looked in
> it you saw the picture of his boyfriend with his shirt off playing grab
> ass stink finger at Franks place. Fucking queers love to roam around
> with their shirts off and rubbing up against each other. His picture
> looked like it came from some San Francisco bar. Guys dancing with
> their tops off.
~~~AW~~~:
Well, you may know about stuff like that, but I don't.
s:
> He Frank, do you really think you are smart as I am? Hahahahahahaha.
~~~AW~~~:
No doubt about it.
Anyway Stpehen, Have you gotten the KY Jelly yet? bRay wants to know...
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<alli...@livingston.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>Vanilla Gorilla wrote:
>> Even his attempt at fraud is so inept, I'm not sure it's technically
>> illegal.
>
>~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
>Kind of like ripping off a million dollars in counterfeit money?
Yeah, like shooting someone who was already dead.
>
>Anyway VanGo, I got up this morning to a computer room full of little, ugly,
>queer, bald-headed G-O-A-T-S !!! It was apa-a-a-a-a-a-ling! And I also
>noticed that they all look like they have been molested, if you get my
>drift! Poor little old things, seemed so happy to be here where they are
>safe and there's lots of grass to eat and LOTS of water to drink.
>
>Anyway VG, do you have a good recipe for Cabrito?
>
>Heh heh heh heh :)
Vegetable oil, salt, and ten hours in hickory smoke. Same as for
everything else, except fish.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<alli...@livingston.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>Vanilla Gorilla wrote:
If I were any straighter, I'd would have to start bending in the other
direction, and that ain't gonna happen.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>~~~AllisonWonderland~~~ wrote:
Pssst - your homo obsessions are showing, again.
svanier
> On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 13:03:15 -0700, svanier
> <sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>
>
>>~~~AllisonWonderland~~~ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Vanilla Gorilla wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it's been more than six months since you did it the last time, you
>>>>should go with the vinegar, Dude. I would even recommend not using
>>>>any that has already had pickles in it. But that's just me.
>>>
>>>
>>>~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
>>>I figured as much. It is running a little slow, but I don't use it for
>>>coffee. I use it to heat water for the cat's breakfast. I'll go put the
>>>vinegar in it right now...
>>>
>>>You hang in there, you hear?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>****SPV.....What a bunch of stupid queer fucks. Did you see the picture
>>Frank put up when we were all putting up our pictures? Frank has his
>>shirt off and there was a mirror in the background and if you looked in
>>it you saw the picture of his boyfriend with his shirt off playing grab
>>ass stink finger at Franks place. Fucking queers love to roam around
>>with their shirts off and rubbing up against each other. His picture
>>looked like it came from some San Francisco bar. Guys dancing with
>>their tops off.
>>
>>He Frank, do you really think you are smart as I am? Hahahahahahaha.
>
>
> Pssst - your homo obsessions are showing, again.
*****SPV......Right everything is my fault? YOu should get some sand
paper and you boyfriend will be happy.
svanier
> On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:12:48 -0700, svanier
> <sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>
>
>>******SPV........You want the truth?
>
>
> From you? That would be a novel experience.
*******SPV......Look Monkey Boy just because you are jealous doesn't
make me not knowing the truth. Tell me something, why do you hate me so
much? What is your bitch?
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
Tell us how that works, again. Can it be applied by hand, or does one
*have* to use an orbital sander?
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:12:48 -0700, svanier
>> <sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>>
>>
>>>******SPV........You want the truth?
>>
>>
>> From you? That would be a novel experience.
>
>*******SPV......Look Monkey Boy just because you are jealous doesn't
>make me not knowing the truth. Tell me something, why do you hate me so
>much? What is your bitch?
I don't hate you, any more than I hated the spider that was in my
bathroom this morning. I squashed it with a piece of TP, and flushed
it down the john. That's what I do with vermin. If you'd mind your
own fucking business and stay out of alt.fan.art-bell and
alt.solipsism, you could drown in a well and I'd never even know it,
or ever stop to wonder what happened to you. The only reason I keep
fucking with you is because you're a fucking kook and you insist on
staying in my line of fire.
"Problems" like you are eventually self-correcting, and not worth
getting worked up about.
That should be simple enough that even you can understand it.
John Griffin
Brody
"John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote in message
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KACHINGGGG!!!!!!!!
revlove
"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message
news:mbha409ejb0r0ohd1...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 06:07:49 -0600, "~~~AllisonWonderland~~~"
> <alli...@livingston.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>
> >Vanilla Gorilla wrote:
> >> Even his attempt at fraud is so inept, I'm not sure it's technically
> >> illegal.
> >
> >~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
> >Kind of like ripping off a million dollars in counterfeit money?
>
> Yeah, like shooting someone who was already dead.
>
> >
> >Anyway VanGo, I got up this morning to a computer room full of little,
ugly,
> >queer, bald-headed G-O-A-T-S !!! It was apa-a-a-a-a-a-ling! And I also
> >noticed that they all look like they have been molested, if you get my
> >drift! Poor little old things, seemed so happy to be here where they are
> >safe and there's lots of grass to eat and LOTS of water to drink.
> >
> >Anyway VG, do you have a good recipe for Cabrito?
> >
> >Heh heh heh heh :)
>
> Vegetable oil, salt, and ten hours in hickory smoke. Same as for
> everything else, except fish.
> --
> V.G.
How about for chupacabra chili? Non-vegan, nat.
~rev
revlove
>
> buzzards got to eat, just like a worm.
"Hell with them fellas. Buzzards gotta eat, same as the worm." -- Josey
Wales
Hth,
~rev
Carl R. Osterwald
<vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 08:10:50 -0700, svanier
> <sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>
> >Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:12:48 -0700, svanier
> >> <sva...@americanprocess.org> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
> >>
> >>
> >>>******SPV........You want the truth?
> >>
> >>
> >> From you? That would be a novel experience.
> >
> >*******SPV......Look Monkey Boy just because you are jealous doesn't
> >make me not knowing the truth. Tell me something, why do you hate me so
> >much? What is your bitch?
>
> I don't hate you, any more than I hated the spider that was in my
> bathroom this morning. I squashed it with a piece of TP, and flushed
> it down the john. That's what I do with vermin. If you'd mind your
> own fucking business and stay out of alt.fan.art-bell and
> alt.solipsism, you could drown in a well and I'd never even know it,
> or ever stop to wonder what happened to you. The only reason I keep
> fucking with you is because you're a fucking kook and you insist on
> staying in my line of fire.
>
> "Problems" like you are eventually self-correcting, and not worth
> getting worked up about.
>
> That should be simple enough that even you can understand it.
I am in agreeing with the contents of this poast.
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