Re: Did JoCounty find more money? -- Anytime It wants!!
Raymond Karczewski
By Raymond Ronald KarczewskiŠ
Note: This Contribution which I made to the "I Love Grants Pass
Forum" yesterday May 15th, 2008 was PLUCKED from the center of a
lengthy Forum Thread made in response to JOCO Sheriff Gil Gilbertson's
comments on the same day while all other helpless, impotent,
circular, political meanderings were left intact. People, Be Wary of
where you acquire your world view. Understand that mind control comes
at all levels. Ray
In the mid 1990's, the State of Oregon, Inc., entered into a
commercial enterprise with all of the other State of Oregon public
corporations, such as the Oregon State Police, the Department of
Transportation, SOSCF, etc. in which the retirement accounts/programs
known as the Public Employee Retirement System, (PERS), were combined
and invested in the stock market in a for-profit commercial
enterprise. As a result: (A) The State of Oregon is no longer
operating in its lawfully mandated role as a non-profit public
corporation. (B) The State of Oregon judges and the State of Oregon
District Attorneys, court administrators, clerks, etc. all have an
interest in maintaining the same retirement account.
Furthermore:
A percentage of every fine levied in Oregon, by a State of Oregon
court, goes directly into the PERS account. As a result, the District
Attorneys office and all of the State of Oregon judges, every Oregon
State Police officer, SOSCF worker, etc., have a vested interest in
assessing fines and using the State of Oregon's private corporate
courts for finding people guilty, as they each acquire personal gain
from every conviction.
And Finally:
A percentage of all fines go into the State of Oregon, Inc.
general fund upon which the state plans its operating budget, and
also, certain administrative agencies, such as the Oregon State
Police, get a certain percentage of all fines placed directly into
their operating budget.
Therefore:
The State of Oregon is involved in using its courts and jails as
tools for an extremely unlawful revenue collection and an undisclosed
taxation system.
Where do you look for the real income Sheriff Gilbertson? Why not
tell your constituents about County of Josephine's second set of
books called the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report. (CAFR) i.e.,
tha actual monies gained by the county via it financial speculations
in the Stock Market, and/or other sundry investments.
Ray
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mankind, including JESUS CHRIST, has directly
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Frank
> Re: Did JoCounty find more money?
Had to pay another fine, didja?
--
"Sieg Heil" - Hagar the Lamer
Edgar Wolphe
Karczewski) wrote:
>Re: Did JoCounty find more money? -- Anytime It wants!!
>
> By Raymond Ronald KarczewskiŠ
>
>Note: This Contribution which I made to the "I Love Grants Pass
>Forum" yesterday May 15th, 2008 was PLUCKED from the center of a
>lengthy Forum Thread made in response to JOCO Sheriff Gil Gilbertson's
>comments on the same day while all other helpless, impotent,
>circular, political meanderings were left intact.
Of course, the reason for the "plucking" had nothing to do with
egotistic bombast, false information, and illogical reasoning in your
post, right Ray?
>People, Be Wary of
>where you acquire your world view.
Be especially wary of "world view" opinions expressed by convicted
felons, and opnions from the Court of Ray.
> In the mid 1990's, the State of Oregon, Inc., entered into a
>commercial enterprise with all of the other State of Oregon public
>corporations, such as the Oregon State Police, the Department of
>Transportation, SOSCF, etc. in which the retirement accounts/programs
>known as the Public Employee Retirement System, (PERS), were combined
>and invested in the stock market in a for-profit commercial
>enterprise. As a result: (A) The State of Oregon is no longer
>operating in its lawfully mandated role as a non-profit public
>corporation. (B) The State of Oregon judges and the State of Oregon
>District Attorneys, court administrators, clerks, etc. all have an
>interest in maintaining the same retirement account.
Of course, the salent fact that PERS is a non-profit MANAGER of the
retirement funds for the employees of the State of Oregon has nothing
to do with your lack of logic, right Ray?
Forgetting the fact that prior to PERS, most government retirement
funds were managed by professional, For-Profit institutions (banks,
insurance companies, etc), your logic is far more corrupt that the
actions you accuse the government of.
Oregon readers might be interested (in the spirit of full disclosure
that Ray seems to advocate, but not practice) in the fact that Ray,
despite his critical comments about "Corporate" Oregon, gets the bulk
of his income from two GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTS, Social Security (Yes
campers- Ray DOES have a Social Security number!) and ...... a PERS
account!
So, while Ray is claiming that the whole PERS lashup is illegal and a
scam, Ray is cashing monthly checks form the same system!!!!
Typical Ray hypocrisy in action!
>Furthermore:
> A percentage of every fine levied in Oregon, by a State of Oregon
>court, goes directly into the PERS account.
Of COURSE it does, dimwit. All government budgets include salary and
benefits items... and one of the benefits is a retirement account. Or
is it your position that actually paying state employees is part of
the New World Order's secret agenda.
>Therefore:
> The State of Oregon is involved in using its courts and jails as
>tools for an extremely unlawful revenue collection and an undisclosed
>taxation system.
Or, and more accurately, revenue generated by Oregon's law enforcement
agencies help offset the high cost of maintaining the peace, so
illogical sofflaws such as yourself can continue to spout stupid shit
like the above.
> Where do you look for the real income Sheriff Gilbertson? Why not
>tell your constituents about County of Josephine's second set of
>books called the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report. (CAFR) i.e.,
You mean the CAFR that is freely available from the Josphine County's
web site! Jeeze Ray! You really, REALLY need to get a grip, here.
Your paranoia is getting a little out of hand here!
EW
No one in history, since the beginning of recorded time, has
written directly, based on first hand understanding, as I have,
including Jesus of Nazareth.
--Raymond Ronald Karczewski
Lobby Dosser
> Furiously scratching in the sand, ark...@earthlink.net (Raymond
> Karczewski) wrote:
Say, anyone else remember the Great Ray Fart Saga?
raymondkarczewski
> Furiously scratching in the sand, arke...@earthlink.net (Raymond
>
> Karczewski) wrote:
> >Re: Did JoCounty find more money? -- Anytime It wants!!
>
rk: One only has to check out your profile in Google to see that your
sole purpose for writing on Usenet is Raymond Ronald Karczewski© Go
ahead, check any of the months you'll see the pattern of a government/
media disinformation agent at work.
Raymond Ronald
Karczewski©
Frank
I see you have elected to attack Edgar rather than his message.
Frank
Holy Flatulence, Batman!!!
Edgar Wolphe
>raymondkarczewski mumbled:
>>
>> rk: One only has to check out your profile in Google to see that your
>> sole purpose for writing on Usenet is Raymond Ronald Karczewski© Go
>> ahead, check any of the months you'll see the pattern of a government/
>> media disinformation agent at work.
>
>I see you have elected to attack Edgar rather than his message.
Poor Ray- He fails to appreciate the enormous entertainment value that
his posts contain, thus giving purpose to Edgar's posts.
That- and the big fat check us g/m/d agents (tana) get for laughing
at all of Ray's lies, hypocrisies, bullshit, and egotistical wet
dreams.
EW
Laughter is a refuge for cowards, idiots, and morons
who are laughing on the outside while crying on
the inside.
----Raymond Ronald Karczewski
Lobby Dosser
> Lobby Dosser mumbled:
>
>> Spam...@spamcop.com (Edgar Wolphe) wrote:
>>
>>> Furiously scratching in the sand, ark...@earthlink.net (Raymond
>>> Karczewski) wrote:
>>
>> Say, anyone else remember the Great Ray Fart Saga?
>
> Holy Flatulence, Batman!!!
>
He was reputedly thrown out of restaurants because of the Evil Odor.
Frank
*Guffaw!!!*
Just for fun I threw some searches at Google's Usenet archive. Got the
following hit with his name, fart, and restaurant.
So this guy wanders into the joint right before closing time,
intentionally orders a meal that will keep employees on the clock past
their shift, starts farting so much his ass begins to bleed, and blames
it all on CIA trucks.
Just my opinion, his crazy posts are probably the result of oxygen
deprivation and methane inhalation.
Note to Ray: Please stay off your medication. Whatever you do, hide
from the men with butterfly nets. You are an Internet treasure, just the
way you are!!!!!!!!!
Frank
> Frank <nos...@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
>>raymondkarczewski mumbled:
>
>
>>> rk: One only has to check out your profile in Google to see that your
>>> sole purpose for writing on Usenet is Raymond Ronald Karczewski© Go
>>> ahead, check any of the months you'll see the pattern of a government/
>>> media disinformation agent at work.
>>
>>I see you have elected to attack Edgar rather than his message.
>
> Poor Ray- He fails to appreciate the enormous entertainment value that
> his posts contain, thus giving purpose to Edgar's posts.
I give credit where it's due and Ray deserves a pat on the back for
increasing the entertainment value of Usenet. It is my sincerest hope
that he never seeks help for whatever is wrong with him!
Burgess Krell
> Re: Did JoCounty find more money? -- Anytime It wants!!
>
> By Raymond Ronald KarczewskiŠ
>
> Note: This Contribution which I made to the "I Love Grants Pass
> Forum" yesterday May 15th, 2008 was PLUCKED from the center of a
> lengthy Forum Thread made in response to JOCO Sheriff Gil Gilbertson's
> comments on the same day while all other helpless, impotent,
> circular, political meanderings were left intact. People, Be Wary of
> where you acquire your world view. Understand that mind control comes
> at all levels. Ray
So what you are really saying is that you are helpless and impotent to
circumvent the moderation of your comment which makes your subsequent
commentary circular, political meandering.
> In the mid 1990's, the State of Oregon, Inc., entered into a
> commercial enterprise with all of the other State of Oregon public
> corporations, such as the Oregon State Police, the Department of
> Transportation, SOSCF, etc. in which the retirement accounts/programs
> known as the Public Employee Retirement System, (PERS), were combined
> and invested in the stock market in a for-profit commercial
> enterprise. As a result: (A) The State of Oregon is no longer
> operating in its lawfully mandated role as a non-profit public
> corporation. (B) The State of Oregon judges and the State of Oregon
> District Attorneys, court administrators, clerks, etc. all have an
> interest in maintaining the same retirement account.
So do the taxpayers (including the people paying fines). Please see my
summary at the end of this post.
> Furthermore:
> A percentage of every fine levied in Oregon, by a State of Oregon
> court, goes directly into the PERS account. As a result, the District
> Attorneys office and all of the State of Oregon judges, every Oregon
> State Police officer, SOSCF worker, etc., have a vested interest in
> assessing fines and using the State of Oregon's private corporate
> courts for finding people guilty, as they each acquire personal gain
> from every conviction.
Putting idle money to work is good for the economy and can benefit the
taxpayers as explained in my post summary.
> And Finally:
> A percentage of all fines go into the State of Oregon, Inc.
> general fund upon which the state plans its operating budget, and
> also, certain administrative agencies, such as the Oregon State
> Police, get a certain percentage of all fines placed directly into
> their operating budget.
>
> Therefore:
> The State of Oregon is involved in using its courts and jails as
> tools for an extremely unlawful revenue collection and an undisclosed
> taxation system.
>
> Where do you look for the real income Sheriff Gilbertson? Why not
> tell your constituents about County of Josephine's second set of
> books called the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report. (CAFR) i.e.,
> tha actual monies gained by the county via it financial speculations
> in the Stock Market, and/or other sundry investments.
>
> Ray
Congratulations, Mr. Karczewski. You discovered what most public
employees know at the time of hire; that proceeds from everything from
fines to pension withholdings are diverted into accounts that forwarded
for are investment in stocks, bonds, and mutual funds as a method of
boosting revenues. Not only is this perfectly legal and ethical, it is
wise and beneficial as it can preempt calls for increases in tax rates by
providing additional funding to meet budget requirements.
If you feel you can facilitate a better return, rather than complain,
offer a solution.
--
Obviously, my reply to domain is not moc.liamg.
Lobby Dosser
Yep!! Unfortunately my ISP has a different opinion and blocks him. Yeah,
I know I could google news but he's not That entertaining.
FXDL
> Lobby committed <JF2Zj.2297$aJ1.1928@trndny03> to alt.consciousness.4th-way
>
> <snip>
>
>>>>>> Say, anyone else remember the Great Ray Fart Saga?
>>>>> Holy Flatulence, Batman!!!
>>>>>
>>>> He was reputedly thrown out of restaurants because of the Evil Odor.
>>> *Guffaw!!!*
>>>
>>> Just for fun I threw some searches at Google's Usenet archive. Got
>>> the following hit with his name, fart, and restaurant.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/5fcknt
>>>
>>> So this guy wanders into the joint right before closing time,
>>> intentionally orders a meal that will keep employees on the clock past
>>> their shift, starts farting so much his ass begins to bleed, and
>>> blames it all on CIA trucks.
>>>
>>> Just my opinion, his crazy posts are probably the result of oxygen
>>> deprivation and methane inhalation.
>>>
>>> Note to Ray: Please stay off your medication. Whatever you do, hide
>>> from the men with butterfly nets. You are an Internet treasure, just
>>> the way you are!!!!!!!!!
>> Yep!! Unfortunately my ISP has a different opinion and blocks him. Yeah,
>> I know I could google news but he's not That entertaining.
>
> different countries block him. That spammer tattoo he so noisily denies
> is globally recognized :-)
>
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