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Raleigh_F...@yahoo.com
Jun 27, 2007, 7:00:59 PM6/27/07
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On Jun 27, 1:13 am, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <u...@man.jp> wrote:
> Between puffs, smokers grumbling over $2 tax
> Ed Stannard , Register Metro Editor
>
> The way Robin Francis sees it, she and her business are major pillars
> holding up the Connecticut economy.
>
> If the state cigarette tax hits $2 a pack, which it looks like it's going to
> do, Cigarette Express, the store she manages on Captain Thomas Boulevard in
> West Haven, will be an essential cog in keeping the state running.
>
> "Without my money, where would they get their money?" she asked Thursday,
> with only a bit of irony.
>
> But what's even worse, from a cigarette dealer's point of view, is that, as
> the price of a pack keeps rising, she becomes more vulnerable.
>
> Focusing her anger on Republican Gov. M. Jodi Rell, Francis said, "Now she's
> making cigarette stores more of a target for robberies. ... It's more
> lucrative for people to steal the cigarettes than to get the money."
>
> In fact, a couple of years ago, a masked man hit her store during a delivery
> and made off with $500 worth of cigarettes. The black market doesn't charge
> taxes, she pointed out.
>
> The 2007-08 state budget being worked out by Rell and the
> Democratic-controlled General Assembly calls for a 49-cent increase in the
> state cigarette tax, up about a third from its current rate of $1.51. It's
> the only tax legislators are planning to change.
>
> Suggesting that more of the financial load is being borne by a shrinking
> population of smokers, Francis said, "I thought that the tax burden was
> supposed to be carried by the majority. Now we're considered a minority.
> It's discrimination."
>
> In fact, the $86.4 million the cigarette tax would raise is less than 0.5
> percent of the state budget, which will be higher than Rell's original
> proposal of $17.5 billion. But to a smoker who pays $4.50 to $6 a pack, it's
> a big blow.
>
> "It's bad enough that they keep going up on gas," said Gary Liston, who
> works at Cafe 9 in New Haven and has been smoking since he was 17. "It's my
> one enjoyment, a smoke and a beer. ... They're going to tax me till I'm
> dead."
>
> While tobacco is a known health threat, it's not the only one. "I think they
> should tax the alcohol and leave the cigarettes alone," said Ray Marcell of
> East Haven who, at 51, has been smoking 30 years.
>
> How high would the price of smokes have to go before people would conquer
> their addiction? Several people said $10 would do it for them, but one woman
> from Wallingford, who wouldn't give her name, refused to admit that she'd
> quit at even $15.
>
> "I said I was going to quit when it hit $3," she said while puffing outside
> Union Station in New Haven.
>
> "I think cigarette smokers are an easy target," said Brian Lima of New
> Haven. "I think anything above $7 a pack is going to force a cigarette black
> market."
>
> At $2 a pack, Connecticut would be one of eight states to charge at least
> that much, according to the Federation of Tax Administrators. The highest?
> New Jersey, at $2.57½.
>
> But Lou Davitt of Stratford said the tax increase won't affect him. He's
> wearing a nicotine patch and plans to quit after 44 years of smoking. He has
> to, he said. He has chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
>
> "I started at three packs (a day). I'm down to four or five cigarettes a
> day." Smoking is "just a habit; I don't enjoy it," Davitt said.
>
> Ed Martinez of New Haven isn't concerned about the cigarette tax either. He
> rolls his own with Drum Halfzware Shag, a loose tobacco. "I can buy an
> ounce-and-a-half for $3. It'll last me about three days," Martinez said. "If
> you can get around it, get around it," he said of the state tax.
>
> While Connecticut's cigarette tax increase is a big jump, pity the smokers
> in Arkansas. The tax there is scheduled to hit $2 also on July 1 - up from
> 59 cents.
> Between puffs, smokers grumbling over $2 tax
> Ed Stannard , Register Metro Editor
>
> The way Robin Francis sees it, she and her business are major pillars
> holding up the Connecticut economy.
>
> If the state cigarette tax hits $2 a pack, which it looks like it's going to
> do, Cigarette Express, the store she manages on Captain Thomas Boulevard in
> West Haven, will be an essential cog in keeping the state running.
>
> "Without my money, where would they get their money?" she asked Thursday,
> with only a bit of irony.
>
> But what's even worse, from a cigarette dealer's point of view, is that, as
> the price of a pack keeps rising, she becomes more vulnerable.
>
> Focusing her anger on Republican Gov. M. Jodi Rell, Francis said, "Now she's
> making cigarette stores more of a target for robberies. ... It's more
> lucrative for people to steal the cigarettes than to get the money."
>
> In fact, a couple of years ago, a masked man hit her store during a delivery
> and made off with $500 worth of cigarettes. The black market doesn't charge
> taxes, she pointed out.
>
> The 2007-08 state budget being worked out by Rell and the
> Democratic-controlled General Assembly calls for a 49-cent increase in the
> state cigarette tax, up about a third from its current rate of $1.51. It's
> the only tax legislators are planning to change.
>
> Suggesting that more of the financial load is being borne by a shrinking
> population of smokers, Francis said, "I thought that the tax burden was
> supposed to be carried by the majority. Now we're considered a minority.
> It's discrimination."
>
> In fact, the $86.4 million the cigarette tax would raise is less than 0.5
> percent of the state budget, which will be higher than Rell's original
> proposal of $17.5 billion. But to a smoker who pays $4.50 to $6 a pack, it's
> a big blow.
>
> "It's bad enough that they keep going up on gas," said Gary Liston, who
> works at Cafe 9 in New Haven and has been smoking since he was 17. "It's my
> one enjoyment, a smoke and a beer. ... They're going to tax me till I'm
> dead."
>
> While tobacco is a known health threat, it's not the only one. "I think they
> should tax the alcohol and leave the cigarettes alone," said Ray Marcell of
> East Haven who, at 51, has been smoking 30 years.
>
> How high would the price of smokes have to go before people would conquer
> their addiction? Several people said $10 would do it for them, but one woman
> from Wallingford, who wouldn't give her name, refused to admit that she'd
> quit at even $15.
>
> "I said I was going to quit when it hit $3," she said while puffing outside
> Union Station in New Haven.
>
> "I think cigarette smokers are an easy target," said Brian Lima of New
> Haven. "I think anything above $7 a pack is going to force a cigarette black
> market."
>
> At $2 a pack, Connecticut would be one of eight states to charge at least
> that much, according to the Federation of Tax Administrators. The highest?
> New Jersey, at $2.57½.
>
> But Lou Davitt of Stratford said the tax increase won't affect him. He's
> wearing a nicotine patch and plans to quit after 44 years of smoking. He has
> to, he said. He has chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
>
> "I started at three packs (a day). I'm down to four or five cigarettes a
> day." Smoking is "just a habit; I don't enjoy it," Davitt said.
>
> Ed Martinez of New Haven isn't concerned about the cigarette tax either. He
> rolls his own with Drum Halfzware Shag, a loose tobacco. "I can buy an
> ounce-and-a-half for $3. It'll last me about three days," Martinez said. "If
> you can get around it, get around it," he said of the state tax.
>
> While Connecticut's cigarette tax increase is a big jump, pity the smokers
> in Arkansas. The tax there is scheduled to hit $2 also on July 1 - up from
> 59 cents.
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The beauracracy has not posted any earnings so far
Why?
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Jun 27, 2007, 7:40:11 PM6/27/07
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Jun 27, 2007, 8:03:04 PM6/27/07
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I'm a smoker who doe's not mind non-smokers but these neurotic anti-smokers
think they are social engineers. As to ordering online be very careful that
your State doe's not get a hold of your record of purchase's. Then you are
responsible to pay your States tax plus penalty.
freddy
Jul 16, 2007, 11:57:41 AM7/16/07
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On Jun 27, 7:00 pm, Raleigh_Filter_K...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jun 27, 1:13 am, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <u...@man.jp> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Between puffs, smokers grumbling over$2tax
> > Ed Stannard , Register Metro Editor
>
> > The way Robin Francis sees it, she and her business are major pillars
> > holding up theConnecticuteconomy.
>
> > If the statecigarettetax hits$2a pack, which it looks like it's going to>
>
>
>
>
> > Between puffs, smokers grumbling over$2tax
> > Ed Stannard , Register Metro Editor
>
> > The way Robin Francis sees it, she and her business are major pillars
> > holding up theConnecticuteconomy.
>
> > do,CigaretteExpress, the store she manages on Captain Thomas Boulevard in
> > West Haven, will be an essential cog in keeping the state running.
>
> > "Without my money, where would they get their money?" she asked Thursday,
> > with only a bit of irony.
>
> > the price of a pack keeps rising, she becomes more vulnerable.
>
> > Focusing her anger on Republican Gov. M. Jodi Rell, Francis said, "Now she's
> > lucrative for people to steal the cigarettes than to get the money."
>
> > In fact, a couple of years ago, a masked man hit her store during a delivery
> > and made off with $500 worth of cigarettes. The black market doesn't charge
> >taxes, she pointed out.
>
> > The 2007-08 state budget being worked out by Rell and the
> > Democratic-controlled General Assembly calls for a 49-cent increase in the
> > the only tax legislators are planning to change.
>
> > Suggesting that more of the financial load is being borne by a shrinking
> > population of smokers, Francis said, "I thought that the tax burden was
> > supposed to be carried by the majority. Now we're considered a minority.
> > It's discrimination."
>
> > percent of the state budget, which will be higher than Rell's original
> > proposal of $17.5 billion. But to a smoker who pays $4.50 to $6 a pack, it's
> > a big blow.
>
> > "It's bad enough that they keep going up on gas," said Gary Liston, who
> > works at Cafe 9 in New Haven and has been smoking since he was 17. "It's my
> > one enjoyment, a smoke and a beer. ... They're going to tax me till I'm
> > dead."
>
> > While tobacco is a known health threat, it's not the only one. "I think they
> > should tax the alcohol and leave the cigarettes alone," said Ray Marcell of
> > East Haven who, at 51, has been smoking 30 years.
>
> > How high would the price of smokes have to go before people would conquer
> > their addiction? Several people said $10 would do it for them, but one woman
> > from Wallingford, who wouldn't give her name, refused to admit that she'd
> > quit at even $15.
>
> > "I said I was going to quit when it hit $3," she said while puffing outside
> > Union Station in New Haven.
>
> > Haven. "I think anything above $7 a pack is going to force acigaretteblack
> > market."
>
> > that much, according to the Federation of Tax Administrators. The highest?
> > New Jersey, at $2.57½.
>
> > But Lou Davitt of Stratford said the tax increase won't affect him. He's
> > wearing a nicotine patch and plans to quit after 44 years of smoking. He has
> > to, he said. He has chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
>
> > "I started at three packs (a day). I'm down to four or five cigarettes a
> > day." Smoking is "just a habit; I don't enjoy it," Davitt said.
>
> > rolls his own with Drum Halfzware Shag, a loose tobacco. "I can buy an
> > ounce-and-a-half for $3. It'll last me about three days," Martinez said. "If
> > you can get around it, get around it," he said of the state tax.
>
> > in Arkansas. The tax there is scheduled to hit$2also on July 1 - up from
> > 59 cents.
>
> Let the non~smokers pay their own way !
> The beauracracy has not posted any earnings so far
> Why?
>
> RFK recommends:
> Smokers:
> Bank out of state on the internet.
> Buy out of state on the internet.
> Use Citi Bank 5% online!
>
> Thanks be to Sir Robert & others for the study.
>
>
> For good taste and smoking pleasure remember
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I wouldn't buy from any of those, you WILL get a bill eventually from
the state. Buy from a sovereign Indian tribe (Seneca's or the like)
or, if you must smoke premium brands, from Eastern Europe.
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