P: Tim - Real coding skill

[Gremlin]

Hi Tim!

You thought we were on the same page with regard to programming skill, based
on what you've seen me share. Or, something to that effect, right? Let's put
that misunderstanding on your end with some source code that's slightly
above crayon level, to out of the fucking ball park, not crayon level.
You clearly have issues with your bruised ego, and I don't know what I wrote
that set you off towards me, or made you decide to work with snit in calling
me a know it all, along with some follow up choice bullshit the two of you
have been writing about me. I have no control over the bullshit you write,
but, I am like SC and I'd say most people in telling you that it's my
option, my choice to ignore it and let you prance on, or, I can do what I've
done in this post instead. Share some source code, that actually is source
code in two different actual programming languages. I will defend myself,
Tim. I won't always remain silent or turn the other direction when you
assume things and go off based on those assumptions.

Now, for some not so crayon level code that I authored. This should put any
idea that you and I are on the same page concerning code, into the fucking
grave. We are not on the same page. You're still learning to color while you
practce staying in the lines.


First, a couple of links to software I've written that for various reasons
I'm not going to publish the source to.

https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/toadie.shtml
https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/irok.shtml

Here's one of my legit programs:
https://tinyapps.org/blog/200609140715_bughunter.html
http://mail.completelyfreesoftware.com/reviews/du_w31_BUGHUN.html

here's a couple of links to my mostly technical videos:

https://tinyurl.com/gremlinslab
https://www.tiktok.com/@gremlinhhi

And here's some source code to cmoscon. I've shared this before I think, but
I'll do so again.
rem Before we get any information, We need to define the legal"
rem keys. Define them like so: legal1 one value lower then
rem the lowest ASCII character allowed. legal2 one value higher then the one
rem want set as the highest allowable character.

main_start:
exitsys=1
while exitsys=1
gosub credits:
gosub main_menu:
legal1=64
legal2=70
gosub key_view:
if chose$="A" then
gosub cmos_copy:
endif
if chose$="B" then
gosub cmos_res:
endif
if chose$="C" then
gosub cmos_del:
endif
if chose$="D" then
gosub view_cmos:
gosub any_key:
endif
if chose$="E" then
exitsys=0
endif
wend

beep
gosub credits:
print"This program is distributed under the ShareWare concept."
print"If you use this program for more then 7 days, you are"
print"required to register. Please view CMOSCON.DOC for"
print"more information. This Program is not free software -"
print"Registration is required for continued use!"
beep
end

credits:
cls
print"CMOSCON - CMOS Data Deletion/Recovery Utility - Version 1.0"
print"Copyright 1997 by Dustin Cook. All Rights Reserved!"
print""
return

main_menu:
print"MAIN MENU:"
print""
print"[A] - Copy the CMOS information to a file"
print"[B] - Restore the CMOS information from a file"
print"[C] - Erase the information currently contained in the CMOS"
print"[D] - View the CMOS information as it currently is in memory"
print"[E] - Exit this program and return to your operating system"
print""
return

key_view:
print"Please select your choice by entering the corresponding letter shown"
print"in [], At the following prompt:";
exitflag=0
while exitflag=0
a$=inkey$
a$=ucase$(a$)
a=asc(a$)

if a>legal1 then
if a<legal2 then
exitflag=1
chose$=a$
endif
endif
wend
return

view_cmos:
print""
print""
print"CMOS contents listed below:"
print" "
for i=0 to 127
out &hex70,i
a=inp(&hex71)
a$=chr$(a)
if a$="" then
print " ";
else
print a$;
endif
next i
print""
return

any_key:
print""
print"Pressing ENTER now will return you to the Main Menu"
exitflag=0
while exitflag=0
a$=inkey$
a=asc(a$)
if a=13 then
exitflag=1
endif
wend
return

warning:
print""
print"[A] Yes - I want to continue and modify or erase my CMOS."
print"[B] No - I have changed my mind, I do not want to modify my CMOS."
print""
legal1=64
legal2=67
gosub key_view:
print""
return

cmos_del:
gosub credits:
print"WARNING: You are about to erase the contents of your CMOS memory."
print"doing so will cause your computer to forget about some or all"
print"of the hardware inside it. Such as, Your Hard Disk(s), Floppy Drives"
print"BIOS password(s) and various other setup information."
print""
print"If you have not copied your CMOS information to floppy disk, It is"
print"strongly recommended that you do so *BEFORE* erasing it. Should you"
print"decide you did not want the CMOS erased, you can Restore it from the"
print"file you previously created."
print""
gosub warning:
if chose$="A" then
rem Ok, proceed to erase the CMOS via this little routine:
for i=0 to 255
out &hex70,i
out &hex71,0
next i
print"The information contained in the CMOS has been erased."
endif
gosub any_key:
return

cmos_copy:
gosub credits:
print""
print"CMOS COPY:"
print""
print"Please enter the location and the filename for the CMOS information"
print"to be copied into. For example, to copy the information contained in"
print"the CMOS to a floppy disk (we are using drive A: as an example) with"
print"the filename of CMOS.BAK, Type the following: A:\CMOS.BAK and press"
print"your enter or return key at the prompt below."
print""
print">";
input temp$;
open"o",1,temp$
for i=0 to 127
out &hex70,i
a=inp(&hex71)
a$=chr$(a)
if a$="" then
print #1,a$
else
print #1,a$ NONULL
endif
next i
close 1
if error=0 then
print"The CMOS information has been copied as ";
print temp$;
print""
else
print"There was an error saving the CMOS information."
print"It is not recommended that you restore from this CMOS copy."
gosub any_key:
return

cmos_res:
gosub credits:
print""
print"CMOS RESTORE:"
print""
print"WARNING: You should only restore the CMOS information that was
previously"
print"created for this computer. Restoring the CMOS information from
another"
print"computer may corrupt the CMOS information for this one, Resulting in"
print"hardware mis-configuration and possibly being locked out of your
computer"
gosub warning:
if chose$="A" then
print""
print"Please enter the location and name of the file where you have
previously"
print"copied the CMOS information at the prompt shown below."
print""
print">";
input temp$;
open"i",1,temp$
for i=0 to 127
input #1,a$ BYTE
a=asc(a$)
out &hex70,i
out &hex71,a
next i
close 1
if error=0 then
print"CMOS information has been restored."
else
print"There was an error in reading the saved CMOS information."
endif
gosub any_key:
endif
endif
return



It's directly addressing hardware under the native OS it was written for,
too Tim. Specifically the cmos configuration storage.

Now, I mentioned writing a crypto app that used hash tables. Since you seem
to think I can't write a simple as fuck by comparison crypto quotes solving
assistance tool, rofl..not only does this use hash tables, it also uses
direct file io calls; I completely bypassed the languages built in file
routines and opted to talk to the OS myself to do it. Also, this language
doesn't have an xor function, so I talked to the cpu! yes, Tim the cpu
itself, os bypass to do the xor for me.

As I've written before about an important difference between a programmer
and a coder. A coder (that
's me) 0wns the language, the os, and the fuckin
hardware (as these sources all show you), a programmer and down does not.



dim hash1(4095)
dim work_buffer(8196)
call sub "Criterrhandler"
print"CRYPTX - Data Encryption Utility - Version 1.3"
print"Copyright 1996-2014 by Dustin Cook. All Rights Reserved!"
print" "
print"[E]ncrypt - [D]ecrypt: ";
while a$=""
a$=inkey$
a$=ucase$(a$)
if a$="E" then
i=2
stat$="Encrypting..."
print stat$
endif
if a$="D" then
i=2
stat$="Decrypting..."
print stat$
endif
if a$="" then
print"[ESC] pressed. program terminated."
end
endif
if i<>2 then
a$=""
endif
wend
print"Name of source file..: ";
input srcfile$;
print""
print"Name of target file..: ";
input dstfile$;
print""
print"Enter PassPhrase.....: ";
gosub get_pass:
pass1$=passget$
if pass1$="" then seya:
print""
print"Again to Verify......: ";
gosub get_pass:
pass2$=passget$
if pass1$<>pass2$ then
gosub done:
print""
print" "
beep
print"PassPhrases do not match! - For your safety, both passphrases must"
print"be an exact match for either encryption or decryption to continue."
end
endif
if srcfile$="" then seya:
if dstfile$="" then seya:
if srcfile$=dstfile$ then
gosub done:
beep
print" "
print" "
print"Source FileName cannot be the same as the Target FileName!"
end
endif
a$=b$
print""
call sub "CrcGen1" pass1$,b&,c&
ax=b&
bx=c&
gosub xor:
gosub init_hash:
oldvalue&=157
a$=""
y=0
print stat$;
row=csrlin
col=pos(0)
if c&<1 then badend:
if b&<1 then badend:

filename$=dstfile$
bytesize=4096
a&=filelen(srcfile$)
a&=abs(a&)
if a&<bytesize then
bytesize=a&
endif
if bytesize>0 then
gosub create_file:
gosub write_file:
gosub close_file:
else
err_write=1
endif
if file_handle<5 then
err_write=1
endif
if err_write=1 then
print"Stop!"
print"CRYPTX was unable to create the target file."
gosub done:
end
endif
readfile=1
gosub open_file:
dsthand=file_handle

rem --* At this point, source filename has been created; And data
rem --* can be written to it.

filename$=srcfile$
readfile=0
bytesize=4096
a&=filelen(srcfile$)
a&=abs(a&)
if a&<bytesize then
bytesize=a&
endif
if bytesize>0 then
gosub open_file:
gosub read_file:
gosub close_file:
else
err_read=1
endif
if file_handle<5 then
err_read=1
endif
if err_read=1 then
print"Stop!"
print"CRYPTX was unable to open the source file for reading."
file_handle=dsthand
gosub close_file:
gosub done:
kill dstfile$
end
else
gosub open_file:
srchand=file_handle
endif
rem Now the actual copy process...
rem Point DX to our work_space memory,
rem We deal with 16k of data at a time.
copy_done&=0&
srclength&=filelen(srcfile$)
rem Now we know how big this sucker is. :P

exitflag=0
while exitflag=0
bytesize=16384
file_handle=srchand
gosub read_file:
if err_read=1 then
exitflag=1
bytesize=bytesread
endif
file_handle=dsthand
gosub process_data:
gosub write_file:
if err_write=1 then
exitflag=1
endif
total&=byteswritten
copY_done&=copy_done&+total&
temp1@=copy_done&*100&
temp2@=temp1@/srclength&
locate row,col
star$=str$(temp2@)
star$=ltrim$(star$)
star$=rtrim$(star$)
period=instr(star$,".")
period=period-1
star$=left$(star$,period)
star$=star$+"%"
if oldstar$<>star$ then
print star$;
locate row,col
endif
oldstar$=star$
if exitflag=1 then
file_handle=dsthand
gosub close_file:
file_handle=srchand
gosub close_file:
endif
wend

if copy_done&=srclength& then
print"Done!"
else
gosub critmsg:
endif
end

xor:
SETREGS (AX,BX,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA)
CODE &HEX31, &HEXD8
GETREGS (AX,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA)
return


adjust_hash_table:
for x=0 to 4095
a=rnd(0)
a=a mod oldvalue&
hash1(x)=a
next x
y=0
return

init_hash:
rem Initially sets up values for 1st hash table.
for x=0 to 4095
a=rnd(0)
a=a mod ax
hash1(x)=a
next x
return

rem ***Create/Open/Read/Write/Close

create_file:
rem Create filename specified in filename$, with normal attribute.
ax=&hex3c00
cx=0
dx=varptr(filename$)
int86(&hex21,ax,na,cx,dx,na,na,na,na,na)
file_handle=ax
return


rem open_file chart!
rem ax=&hex3d00
rem read-only
rem ax=&hex3d01
rem write only
rem ax=&hex3d02
rem read/write

open_file:
rem See chart for access mode used.
rem modification insert [08-13-01]
rem Routine specifies which mode to open the file
rem in. This should allow for an error condition to occur
rem should all of the requested data not be commited to the file.
if readfile=1 then
ax=&hex3d01
endif
if readfile=0 then
ax=&hex3d00
endif
DX = VARPTR(Filename$)
INT86(&HEX21,AX,NA,na,DX,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA)
file_handle=ax
return

write_file:
rem Writes bytes directly from memory (usually an array) to disk.
rem define dx register before calling this routine to point to the
rem memory address of the buffer area you want to write from. like so:
rem dx=varptr(buffer(0))
rem cx is how many bytes to write :)
if file_handle>4 then
err_write=0
ax=&hex4000
bx=file_handle
cx=bytesize
dx=varptr(work_buffer(0))
int86(&hex21,ax,bx,cx,dx,na,na,na,na,na)
byteswritten=ax
if bytesize<>byteswritten then
err_write=1
endif
endif
return

read_file:
rem as the name implies, it reads bytes into a buffer. :-)
rem as with write_file, you need to predefine the dx register for the
rem buffer where you want the info stored. Like so: dx=varptr(buffer(0))
rem if you don't, this routine will not work, or will overwrite some
rem other section of memory. cx register is how many bytes to read :)
if file_handle>4 then
err_read=0
ax=&hex3f00
bx=file_handle
cx=bytesize
dx=varptr(work_buffer(0))
int86(&hex21,ax,bx,cx,dx,na,na,na,na,na)
bytesread=ax
if bytesread<>bytesize then
err_read=1
endif
endif
return

close_file:
rem Close the file handle. If the file handle is less then 4, then
rem this routine will simply exit.
if file_handle>4 then
ax=&hex3e00
bx=file_handle
int86(&hex21,ax,bx,na,na,na,na,na,na,na)
endif
return

process_data:
data_start=varptr(work_buffer(0))
data_end=data_start+16384
for data_process=data_start to data_end
if y>4095 then
gosub adjust_hash_table:
rem It's time to change the table. :-)
endif
a=peek(data_process)
x&=rnd(0)
x&=x& mod b&
y&=rnd(0)
y&=y& mod c&
a&=a
if stat$="Encrypting..." then
ax=a&
bx=hash1(y)
gosub xor:
a&=ax
a&=a&+y&
a&=a&+x&
else
a&=a&-x&
a&=a&-y&
ax=a&
bx=hash1(y)
gosub xor:
a&=ax
endif
a$=chr$(a&)
a=asc(a$)
poke data_process,a
ax=oldvalue&
bx=c&+b&
gosub xor:
oldvalue&=oldvalue&+ax
y=y+1
next data_process
return

seya:
print""
print""
print"No filename(s) and/or Passphrase entered."
end


get_pass:
rem *** PASSPHRASE EXTRACTION CODE! ***
passget$=""
x=0
while x=0
a$=inkey$
a=asc(a$)
if a=13 then
a$=""
x=1
endif
if a<>0 then
PASSget$=PASSget$+a$
endif
wend
return


done:
c&=0
b&=0
x&=0
y&=0
a$=""
pass1$=""
pass2$=""
passget$=""
for x=0 to 4095
hash1(x)=0
next x
for x=0 to 8196
work_buffer(x)=0
next x
file_handle=srcfile
gosub close_file:
file_handle=dstfile
gosub close_file:
return

critmsg:
gosub done:
print"Stop!"
print""
print"Unable to continue processing your file. Do you have enough free
drive"
print"space for the target file? Is the media your source and target files
on"
print"free from defects (bad sectors)? If the file is over 2.1 gigabytes in"
print"size, You may ignore this error. Verification that the target file"
print"exists and is of the same size as the source file is recommended."
print""
print"FYI: CRYPTX failed to complete a ";
if err_write=1 then
print"write";
endif
if err_read=1 then
print"read";
endif
print" request."
return

badend:
gosub done:
print"Passphrase specified has caused invalid values for number sequence"
print"generation. Please enter another passphrase."
end

sub "Crcgen1" a$,b&,c&
b&=0&
c&=0&
rem Extract full calculation code!
masklen&=len(a$)
masklen&=masklen&+1&
num&=1&
print" "
while num&<masklen&
b$=mid$(a$,num&,1)
i=asc(b$)
a&=i
d&=d&+a&
d&=d&+oldvalue&
d&=d&+turn&
c&=c&+turn&
ax=d&
bx=c&
gosub xor:
d&=ax
c&=c&+a&
ax=c&
bx=a&
gosub xor:
c&=ax
c&=c&+oldvalue&
b&=b&+oldvalue&
ax=c&
bx=b&
gosub xor:
c&=ax
b&=b&+turn&
ax=c&
bx=b&
gosub xor:
b&=b&+a&
ax=b&
bx=turn&
gosub xor:
b&=ax
turn&=turn&+1&
oldvalue&=b&
num&=num&+1&
wend
ax=c&
bx=b&
gosub xor:
c&=ax
ax=b&
bx=d&
gosub xor:
b&=ax
ax=b&
bx=15738
gosub xor:
b&=ax
ax=c&
bx=29817
gosub xor:
c&=ax
IF b&<0& THEN
b&=65536&+b&
ENDIF
if c&<0& then
c&=65536&+c&
endif
a$=""
endsub a$,b&,c&
xor:
rem XOR AX, BX - result in AX
SETREGS (AX,BX,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA)
CODE &HEX31, &HEXD8
GETREGS (AX,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA,NA)
return

Okay, so that's some asic source. Not complex enough right? I got you.
Here's a little pure assembly. It's nasm native syntax.

segment code

start:
mov ax,data
mov ds,ax
mov ax,stack
mov ss,ax
mov sp,stacktop

mov dx,hello
mov ah,9
int 0x21

mov ah,0x3c
mov cx,0
mov dx,files
int 0x21

mov [filehnd],ax

mov ah,0x40
mov bx, filehnd
mov cx,[msglength]
mov dx,hello
int 0x21

mov ah,0x3e
mov bx,filehnd
int 0x21

mov ax,0x4c00
int 0x21

segment data

hello: db 'Hi! Ray How did I get created Today?',13,10,'$'
files db 'ray.txt', 0
filehnd dw 1
msglength dw 38


segment stack stack
resb 64
stacktop:

**** end of source codes shared...

I wrote that assembler source years ago for ray lopez in alt.comp.virus off
the top of my head in notepad,
I was trying to teach him how code works at the lower levels. Yes, I tested
it by assembling and linking it. It works as I expected it to. That's pure
16bit assembler.

Like you and snit, the dude was writing pure bullshit about me, and for the
same reason as you did. He, just like you, had an inferiority complex from
hell, and like snit, claimed i was bsing about my programming skills. So, I
wrote the above in pure assembly to show him how wrong he actually was. When
I told you, long before I invited you to ask Apd to confirm, that I could
help you with your issues, I wasn't bsing you. I wrote that because I can.
You and I are not, even remotely, close, with regard to our ability to
program.

I'm not even sure at this point that your knowledge of electronics is
superior or otherwise, more complete than my own. I have no real way of
knowing at this point in time, since you opted to pull a snit and run from
the electrical motor conversation. Using the excuse that an electric motor
is a mystery to most people doesn't really make much sense to me. There's no
mystery about them. They can be complex, and sometimes, very difficult to
perform any sort of repair or modification, but the underlying principles
are still pretty much the same as they were nearly one hundred or so years
ago.

I was looking forward to a discussion on the controller options. I'm always
looking for ways to make my 'home made' as you put them once, circuits more
energy efficient. I can't very well do that though if your electronics
knowledge is actually that of a hobbyist? Serious and valid question at this
point time, when I wrote about the Hbridge control method for brushed DC
motors, did you understand what I was writing about? And by understand, I
mean, without using google. Also, did you understand what I meant by PWM
control for DC brushless? If you do, what's the typical frequency the
controllers run the attached motor at so they don't make an annoying sound
when you aren't actively using them, but the PWM controller does have power
and is waiting on you to hit the throttle? It's an almost magical number,
and you want to be as close to it for most motors as you can be; for what
specific reason, Tim?

To be clear, I am asking you specifically about DC brushed and brushless
motors.

In the meantime, enjoy the old source codes I've shared here. If you have
anything superior, feel free to share it for a discussion?

Maybe next time you opt to become a snarky wiseass, you'll pick better
targets for it. Ones perhaps that actually are below you? You know, so that
you have a fighting chance of scoring a win. Maybe you should spend more
time reading the room before you start running off at the mouth as you did
towards me in the future? I'm not the fucking idiot end user as you've
learned from Apds reply to my query concerning what I could/couldn't do for
you in terms of HA/ESP.

You've lane drifted so much with your shit talk, you're actually heading
towards oncoming traffic.

Did you know that when snit told you that I come up if you google
functionally illiterate fraud - he left out the part where he created the
label for me, in this very newsgroup and took advantage of the floodbot to
repeat it enough for google seeding. Snit is funny like that, omitting
details. Some consider that to be a dishonest move, but, others are fine
with it. I suspect you're in the latter camp? You seem to eat up everything
he writes about other posters without so much as a single question. There's
gullible, and then, there's you.

--
My entire life can be summed up in one sentence...
"Well, that didn't fucking go as planned."

[T i m]

On 17/02/2024 07:45, Gremlin wrote:
> Hi Tim!

Hi <whateveryourrealnameis>!

>
> You thought we were on the same page with regard to programming skill, based
> on what you've seen me share. Or, something to that effect, right?

Nope.

Sorry you are still hurting under your misunderstanding.

<so snip the rest unread>

Cheers, T i m

p.s. Have you learned how to properly lubricate a sintered bearing yet?

[Snit]

On Feb 17, 2024 at 12:45:52 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11B1C...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> Hi Tim!
>
> You thought we were on the same page with regard to programming skill, based
> on what you've seen me share. Or, something to that effect, right? Let's put
> that misunderstanding on your end with some source code that's slightly
> above crayon level, to out of the fucking ball park, not crayon level.

What do you think leads you to need such pissing contests? From an outsider
perspective it comes across as coming from deep insecurity.

> You clearly have issues with your bruised ego,

And yet here you are showing challenges with YOUR ego.

> and I don't know what I wrote
> that set you off towards me, or made you decide to work with snit in calling
> me a know it all

Work with me? Huh? This shows you have been manipulated by Carroll.

> , along with some follow up choice bullshit the two of you
> have been writing about me. I have no control over the bullshit you write,
> but, I am like SC

You are heavily influenced and manipulated by him.

What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have seen, is
the same level of understanding and coding skills I have shown -- which is to
say not offering ANY real advice of value. If there is more you did show I
would like to see it.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

[Snit]

On Feb 17, 2024 at 1:17:59 AM MST, "T i m" wrote
<uqpq3o$aqfc$1...@dont-email.me>:

> On 17/02/2024 07:45, Gremlin wrote:
>> Hi Tim!
>
> Hi <whateveryourrealnameis>!
>>
>> You thought we were on the same page with regard to programming skill, based
>> on what you've seen me share. Or, something to that effect, right?
>
> Nope.
>
> Sorry you are still hurting under your misunderstanding.

As often as this happens makes me wonder if on some level he actively
misunderstands to be offended.

>
> <so snip the rest unread>
>
> Cheers, T i m
>
> p.s. Have you learned how to properly lubricate a sintered bearing yet?

LOL!

[T i m]

On 17/02/2024 14:41, Snit wrote:
> On Feb 17, 2024 at 12:45:52 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote

<snip>

> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have seen, is
> the same level of understanding and coding skills I have shown -- which is to
> say not offering ANY real advice of value.

Bingo. Apd has very obviously and interactively dealt with my requests
and actually helped.

SC has said he could help but chooses not to (so I have no idea if he
could help or not (nor care etc)).

Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing to
support that in practice (and again, all I care about).

Both seem to have taken my comments or reaction like I have stated they
have tiny cocks. Whilst I don't know they have tiny cocks, they are
acting like people who have so ...

> If there is more you did show I
> would like to see it.
>

There wasn't.

Cheers, T i m

[Snit]

On Feb 17, 2024 at 2:22:59 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
<uqr83l$jqcn$2...@dont-email.me>:

> On 17/02/2024 14:41, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 17, 2024 at 12:45:52 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>
> <snip>
>
>> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have seen, is
>> the same level of understanding and coding skills I have shown -- which is to
>> say not offering ANY real advice of value.
>
> Bingo. Apd has very obviously and interactively dealt with my requests
> and actually helped.

I have not followed along, but yes, he has been helpful and not engaged in
idiotic games.

Gremlin likes to brag but does not SHOW skills in terms of actual discussions
on ongoing challenges.

> SC has said he could help but chooses not to (so I have no idea if he
> could help or not (nor care etc)).

He likely could -- but wants attention over helping.

> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing to
> support that in practice (and again, all I care about).

He is deeply insecure and wants to be seen as having knowledge. He DOES have
some knowledge, but you cannot trust him to say where his skills actually are.
His ego gets in the way.

>
> Both seem to have taken my comments or reaction like I have stated they
> have tiny cocks. Whilst I don't know they have tiny cocks, they are
> acting like people who have so ...

They both take much of what they read as some sort of personal attack. That is
on them.

>
>> If there is more you did show I
>> would like to see it.
>>
> There wasn't.

Would be surprised if there was.

And not putting him down for that -- *I* have no offered much if anything to
help you. If anything You helped me to even understand the needs. But I am not
pretending I did things I did not.
>
> Cheers, T i m

[FromTheRafters]

T i m formulated the question :

> On 17/02/2024 14:41, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 17, 2024 at 12:45:52 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>
> <snip>
>
>> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have seen,
>> is
>> the same level of understanding and coding skills I have shown -- which is
>> to
>> say not offering ANY real advice of value.
>
> Bingo. Apd has very obviously and interactively dealt with my requests and
> actually helped.
>
> SC has said he could help but chooses not to (so I have no idea if he could
> help or not (nor care etc)).

I read recently that the ESP32 boards can be programmed via JavaScript.
This leads me to believe that SC could adapt from the HTML DOM he has
demonstrated his adeptness with to the new objects being manipulated
here.

> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing to
> support that in practice (and again, all I care about).

I suppose he would think that, especially as he would likely know how
to flash a homegrown binary directly to the board's chip.

> Both seem to have taken my comments or reaction like I have stated they have
> tiny cocks. Whilst I don't know they have tiny cocks, they are acting like
> people who have so ...

Great, more schoolyard 'crayon level' taunting. :D

[T i m]

On 17/02/2024 22:28, FromTheRafters wrote:
<snip>

>> SC has said he could help but chooses not to (so I have no idea if he
>> could help or not (nor care etc)).
>
> I read recently that the ESP32 boards can be programmed via JavaScript.

Ok. I have use the Arduino IDE for some projects and there are Web apps
that work also.

https://web.esphome.io/

> This leads me to believe that SC could adapt from the HTML DOM he has
> demonstrated his adeptness with to the new objects being manipulated here.

He could well do, but until he *actually* helps me, it's all irrelevant.

>
>> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing
>> to support that in practice (and again, all I care about).
>
> I suppose he would think that, especially as he would likely know how to
> flash a homegrown binary directly to the board's chip.

Again, until he demonstrates he can help me the way Apd is then that's
all irrelevant.

>
>> Both seem to have taken my comments or reaction like I have stated
>> they have tiny cocks. Whilst I don't know they have tiny cocks, they
>> are acting like people who have so ...
>
> Great, more schoolyard 'crayon level' taunting. :D

Hehe ... and that's all either of them deserve after throwing their toys
out of the pram. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-17, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
> On 17/02/2024 14:41, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 17, 2024 at 12:45:52 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>
><snip>
>
>> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have seen, is
>> the same level of understanding and coding skills I have shown -- which is to
>> say not offering ANY real advice of value.
>
> Bingo. Apd has very obviously and interactively dealt with my requests
> and actually helped.
>
> SC has said he could help but chooses not to

Apparently, you're *so* out of touch with reality you think people can
just 'pause' their life activities to help you to the extent Apd has
been able to. I wouldn't been able to have done so even *if* you were
willing to meet me halfway by showing you were interested in learning,
too.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-17, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 17, 2024 at 2:22:59 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
><uqr83l$jqcn$2...@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 17/02/2024 14:41, Snit wrote:
>>> On Feb 17, 2024 at 12:45:52 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have seen, is
>>> the same level of understanding and coding skills I have shown -- which is to
>>> say not offering ANY real advice of value.
>>
>> Bingo. Apd has very obviously and interactively dealt with my requests
>> and actually helped.
>
> I have not followed along, but yes, he has been helpful and not engaged in
> idiotic games.

Why weren't you "helpful", Mr. Hypocrite? Why have you instead chosen to
'engage in idiotic games'? Did you think no one noticed?

[Snit]

On Feb 18, 2024 at 9:49:22 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<uqtcei$1ak1o$6...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2024-02-17, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>> On 17/02/2024 14:41, Snit wrote:
>>> On Feb 17, 2024 at 12:45:52 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have seen, is
>>> the same level of understanding and coding skills I have shown -- which is to
>>> say not offering ANY real advice of value.
>>
>> Bingo. Apd has very obviously and interactively dealt with my requests
>> and actually helped.
>>
>> SC has said he could help but chooses not to
>
> Apparently, you're *so* out of touch with reality you think people can
> just 'pause' their life activities

You did that when you wanted me to travel back to my house to work on the
computer. Funny how you project your own issues onto others so often.

Nobody asked you to pause anything but your trolling and mocking. The whole
"character replacement" nonsense, for example. You found trolling to be far
more important than helping... then you mocked me for not helping when I made
it clear I was not in a place to do so. You again wanted me to pause
everything.

Why can't you gain even a slight level of self awareness.

Prediction: your response will include you snipping and making up stories
about me projecting. You used to be a lot more creative with your trolling.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-18, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 18, 2024 at 9:49:22 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><uqtcei$1ak1o$6...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2024-02-17, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>> On 17/02/2024 14:41, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Feb 17, 2024 at 12:45:52 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have seen, is
>>>> the same level of understanding and coding skills I have shown -- which is to
>>>> say not offering ANY real advice of value.
>>>
>>> Bingo. Apd has very obviously and interactively dealt with my requests
>>> and actually helped.
>>>
>>> SC has said he could help but chooses not to
>>
>> Apparently, you're *so* out of touch with reality you think people can
>> just 'pause' their life activities
>
> You did that

Tim did that when he stated his goofy, Glasser-like entitled position.

But why are you talking as if you did a single thing WRT the topic when
anyone can see all you did is what you accused me of, Mr. Hypocrite?

(snip lies and projections)

[T i m]

On 18/02/2024 18:13, Snit wrote:
<snip>

> Nobody asked you to pause anything but your trolling and mocking.

I didn't even ask for that (as it doesn't bother me).

> The whole
> "character replacement" nonsense, for example. You found trolling to be far
> more important than helping...

And likely spent more time trying to insist I did what he wanted than
even trying to provide some working code.

I never asked him specifically for help, I asked the group for help and
was quite ready to recieve none (and so didn't feel entitled to anything).

As you say, all mirrors and projection from him (sadly).

Cheers, T i m

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:aT4AN.438222$p%Mb.1...@fx15.iad
Sat, 17 Feb 2024 16:09:42 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On Feb 17, 2024 at 1:17:59â\u20acŻAM MST, "T i m" wrote
> <uqpq3o$aqfc$1...@dont-email.me>:

>> p.s. Have you learned how to properly lubricate a sintered bearing yet?
>
> LOL!

Why LOL? Do you even understand what the two of us having been going back and
forth about? No? :)

I realize you've gotta support the guy, but, this is ridiculous, even for you,
snit.



--
I don't need no Dr. All I need...is my lawyer.

[Gremlin]

T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:uqpq3o$aqfc$1...@dont-email.me Sat, 17 Feb

2024 08:17:59 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On 17/02/2024 07:45, Gremlin wrote:
>> Hi Tim!
>
> Hi <whateveryourrealnameis>!

It's Dustin. My real name isn't a secret, Tim...

>>
>> You thought we were on the same page with regard to programming skill,
>> based on what you've seen me share. Or, something to that effect,
>> right?
>
> Nope.

Hmm...

> Sorry you are still hurting under your misunderstanding.

I'm not hurting, Tim.

> <so snip the rest unread>

That's okay, snit. Uhh, I mean Tim. I realize it's painful for you to come
here thinking you were actually an expert, only to get schooled, by
someone who's a little younger than yourself.

It's happened to me too. :) The author of KLEZ (RiP Dude), could walk the
dog on me with his assembler skills, anyday of the fucking week. He was
probably one of the best fucking coders I've ever had the honor to meet
online or in person. Serious assembler dude. Low level hardware access,
API hijacking with stealth, fuck. He was good dude, real good. So I know
what it's like. <G> But, unlike you, I didn't decide he was someone I
couldn't interact with. Frak no, leech as much knowledge as he was willing
to share is what I did. I'd have been a fucking fool not to do so.

Did you act like a bitch when you couldn't handle the programming classes
for your employer, too?

And, I'm very curious to know, Tim, how datasheets and schematics aren't a
problem or an issue for you, but, the configuration files and a few
if/then statement plain text 'programming' files seem to elude you so
easily? I really am having a hard time understanding that issue you seem
to have. Datasheets aren't for end users...

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:JA3AN.98122$m4d....@fx43.iad Sat,

17 Feb 2024 14:41:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have
> seen, is the same level of understanding and coding skills I have shown

Nope. You think that, because like Tim, you have no actual understanding of
programming or coding. Neither of you know enough about the subject to be
able to determine good coding skill, or any at all, being shown. It's quite
obvious that I have not only shown with actual code I authored advanced
knowledge of the subject, I've also written about code in many posts that
has been peer reviewed and has been supported (That means they agreed with
what I wrote, Snit) by the majority who post here who actually do have the
required knowledge to be able to determine coding skill.

There is a reason why FTR wrote this:
Message-ID: <uqrbul$kird$1...@dont-email.me>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=170845404800

> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing to
> support that in practice (and again, all I care about).

I suppose he would think that, especially as he would likely know how
to flash a homegrown binary directly to the board's chip.

***

Btw, he's right. I do know how to do that. [g] So, no, we haven't shown the
same coding skills or understanding of such. What's been shown is that I can
*easily* school the two of you without actually putting any effort into it.
That's how far behind the two of you actually are with knowledge of the
subject of writing code.
Your hardware knowledge is a fucking joke, too, snit. You demonstrated that
for us with your fine troubleshooting skills, rather, lack of any.

Evidently, I caught Tim by surprise with the LDR circuit he suggested;
because I actually have an old video of the circuit he described that's been
on my tiktok page for a good while longer than I've even known of him.
Wasn't it interesting when I suggested the usage of an opamp to ensure
transistor saturation to prevent an unwanted potential circuit lockup
condition; That I actually demonstrate on the same video - he's no longer
interested in discussing electronics with me. Hmm. What should I make of
that, snit?

I think he assumed too much about me, and what he thought I do or don't
know; and that little LDR discussion was a test. I think he's a hobbyist
level electronics tinkering fellow; but, I accept I could be wrong. Perhaps
he has an associates degree or better in electronics? Either way, it's a
shame we can't discuss something we both are interested in. I also think he
assumed I'm a know it all because I told him I can roll my own - He
corrected himself in a followup post, but initially stated he didn't think I
could do that. But, I can, and the majority who post here actually do know
that, Snit. <G> It's not something worth bragging about though, because at
the end of the day, it's really not that fucking difficult if you have the
right components, some time, and the interest in writing a bit of code for a
micro controller. IF, you want to take the micro controller and user
configuration/tweaking route as HA has done. It can be done without using a
single micro controller, the old school way - with some drawbacks as a
result. But, even those can be over come, if you wanted to take the really
long way about it.

> -- which is to say not offering ANY real advice of value. If there is
> more you did show I would like to see it.
>
>



--

[Gremlin]

FromTheRafters <F...@nomail.afraid.org> news:uqrbul$kird$1...@dont-email.me

Sat, 17 Feb 2024 22:28:23 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> T i m formulated the question :

>> SC has said he could help but chooses not to (so I have no idea if he
>> could help or not (nor care etc)).
>
> I read recently that the ESP32 boards can be programmed via JavaScript.
> This leads me to believe that SC could adapt from the HTML DOM he has
> demonstrated his adeptness with to the new objects being manipulated
> here.

:)

>> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing to
>> support that in practice (and again, all I care about).
>
> I suppose he would think that, especially as he would likely know how
> to flash a homegrown binary directly to the board's chip.

Yes, I do. <G> And, I wasn't boasting (there's nothing to boast about here).
What Tim can't do, that Apd has had to do it all basically for him, is
crayon level 'programming' and it kills me to actually call the bulk of it
programming as in actually writing code sense. It's mostly configuration
files.

>> Both seem to have taken my comments or reaction like I have stated they
>> have tiny cocks. Whilst I don't know they have tiny cocks, they are
>> acting like people who have so ...
>
> Great, more schoolyard 'crayon level' taunting. :D

It's all the dudes got left, really. He's like snit on several levels.

[Gremlin]

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2024 22:43:26 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

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> On 17/02/2024 22:28, FromTheRafters wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>> SC has said he could help but chooses not to (so I have no idea if he
>>> could help or not (nor care etc)).
>>
>> I read recently that the ESP32 boards can be programmed via JavaScript.
>
> Ok. I have use the Arduino IDE for some projects and there are Web apps
> that work also.
>
> https://web.esphome.io/
>
>> This leads me to believe that SC could adapt from the HTML DOM he has
>> demonstrated his adeptness with to the new objects being manipulated
>> here.
>
> He could well do, but until he *actually* helps me, it's all irrelevant.
>>
>>> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing
>>> to support that in practice (and again, all I care about).
>>
>> I suppose he would think that, especially as he would likely know how
>> to flash a homegrown binary directly to the board's chip.
>
> Again, until he demonstrates he can help me the way Apd is then that's
> all irrelevant.

ROFL! Yea, because, uhh, writing at best, script, but mostly configuration
files is along the same lines of writing your own binary and flashing it
yourself to the chip, as FTR said. Tim, All you're doing here is showing
*all of us who can read/write code* that you don't really know your ass from
a hole in the ground on the subject. You aren't even on par with snit
concerning it. You have David Brooks level of understanding of the subject.

> Hehe ... and that's all either of them deserve after throwing their toys
> out of the pram. ;-)

Well, in my own defense, I don't need Apd to babysit me and do everything
for me to setup an HA system. I'm capable of doing it myself. You can't even
manage to tweak the GUI to your liking, without having him do all that for
you as well. Do you ever plan to learn to fish, or are you like snit, always
going to need someone to do it for you? You're weak, Tim. Maybe you should
consume some tasty meat with protein?

[Gremlin]

Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
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>
> On 2024-02-17, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>> On 17/02/2024 14:41, Snit wrote:

>>> On Feb 17, 2024 at 12:45:52â\u20acŻAM MST, "Gremlin" wrote

>>
>><snip>
>>
>>> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have
>>> seen, is the same level of understanding and coding skills I have
>>> shown -- which is to say not offering ANY real advice of value.
>>
>> Bingo. Apd has very obviously and interactively dealt with my requests
>> and actually helped.
>>
>> SC has said he could help but chooses not to
>
> Apparently, you're *so* out of touch with reality you think people can
> just 'pause' their life activities to help you to the extent Apd has
> been able to. I wouldn't been able to have done so even *if* you were
> willing to meet me halfway by showing you were interested in learning,
> too.

He has no interest in learning it, no. His desire is to tell someone his
needs/wants and they do the work for him. Which is what he's done here with
Apd.

What I've actually shown on the subject, that you and others have pointed
out, is actual advanced knowledge and understanding of it; supported with
code I authored. Snit and Tim aren't even capable of understanding what I've
shared already. Let alone able to determine who can/can't write code well.
FTR told him why I consider what APds having to do for him to be crayon
level; because I could (I have) write my own bin and flash it to the damn
chip myself; they are versatile micro controllers; you don't have to do any
of it thru any of the IDEs you're using if you don't want to. And tims
response to that is to claim it's not relevant because I haven't helped him
with anything. <G> That's how far out of touch these people are concerning
this, SC.

They have more in common with each other, And David Brooks, than they do
anyone else here.

[Gremlin]

T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:uqr83l$jqcn$2...@dont-email.me Sat, 17 Feb

2024 21:22:59 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing to
> support that in practice (and again, all I care about).

I wasn't boasting. But, what you're having Apd do for you, because for some
reason, you're not capable of doing for yourself is crayon level.

Especially when compared to actual code. Even a tiny example like below
shows how crayon level it is. No boasting, tim. Just a truth you aren't
comfortable with.

See now Tim? actual Code above. the shit you're having Apd do for you, ehh,
it's mostly configuration files; very little programming involved, and the
little that is is script. it's fucking script dude; it's holding your hand
for you. See the difference now? Nothing to boast about dude. What you need
Apd to do for you, is crayon level, compared to writing actual code of any
real sort. It doesn't even need to be assembler. It's still crayon level.
Like it or not, it's reality. And that's practically self documented
assembler as far as asm goes. Nasm syntax is awesome. It's more human
readable friendly.

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:49 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

What does have to do with his coding question? Nothing I can see.

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:42 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:aT4AN.438222$p%Mb.1...@fx15.iad
> Sat, 17 Feb 2024 16:09:42 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>> On Feb 17, 2024 at 1:17:59â\u20acŻAM MST, "T i m" wrote
>> <uqpq3o$aqfc$1...@dont-email.me>:
>>> p.s. Have you learned how to properly lubricate a sintered bearing yet?
>>
>> LOL!
>
> Why LOL?

Your ego is being called out and I think it is funny.

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:42 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:JA3AN.98122$m4d....@fx43.iad Sat,
> 17 Feb 2024 14:41:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have
>> seen, is the same level of understanding and coding skills I have shown
>
> Nope.

By all means point to where you helped Tim by providing code relevant to his
challenges.

My guess: you will fail. You are again lying.

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:41 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:uqpq3o$aqfc$1...@dont-email.me Sat, 17 Feb
> 2024 08:17:59 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>> On 17/02/2024 07:45, Gremlin wrote:
>>> Hi Tim!
>>
>> Hi <whateveryourrealnameis>!
>
> It's Dustin. My real name isn't a secret, Tim...

But you did blur out your house on Google Maps. I get it... that should be
private info. But you also told me in public writing I could share your number
-- and then freaked out when I did.

>
>>>
>>> You thought we were on the same page with regard to programming skill,
>>> based on what you've seen me share. Or, something to that effect,
>>> right?
>>
>> Nope.
>
> Hmm...
>
>> Sorry you are still hurting under your misunderstanding.
>
> I'm not hurting, Tim.
>
>> <so snip the rest unread>
>
> That's okay, snit. Uhh, I mean Tim.

You get confused easily.

> I realize it's painful

Projection.

> for you to come
> here thinking you were actually an expert, only to get schooled, by
> someone who's a little younger than yourself.

Where did he say he was an expert? You are the one who repeatedly says you are
and pretends you are not a peer of others... your ego.

[T i m]

On 20/02/2024 19:55, Snit wrote:
> On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:42 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
> <XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>
>> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:JA3AN.98122$m4d....@fx43.iad Sat,
>> 17 Feb 2024 14:41:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>
>>> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have
>>> seen, is the same level of understanding and coding skills I have shown
>>
>> Nope.
>
> By all means point to where you helped Tim by providing code relevant to his
> challenges.

Why is he still replying to me?

I *honestly* have opened up his last little bursts of tantrums, skimmed
the first few words, felt sorry for him and closed it.

He actually seems to think referencing me makes what he says more
important or relevant ... when it's just noise afaic.
>
He's lost the plot, I just feel pity for him, I'm guessing he can't help
himself. ;-(

Cheers, T i m

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 1:24:48 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
<ur31qg$2m1re$1...@dont-email.me>:

> On 20/02/2024 19:55, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:42 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>> <XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>
>>> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:JA3AN.98122$m4d....@fx43.iad Sat,
>>> 17 Feb 2024 14:41:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>
>>>> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have
>>>> seen, is the same level of understanding and coding skills I have shown
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>
>> By all means point to where you helped Tim by providing code relevant to his
>> challenges.
>
> Why is he still replying to me?

He wants to convince people that his utter lack of examples of relevant code
was somehow more than Carroll's actual examples, all while ignoring that Apd
is the one who offered the only truly valuable support.

>
> I *honestly* have opened up his last little bursts of tantrums, skimmed
> the first few words, felt sorry for him and closed it.

A wise response.

>
> He actually seems to think referencing me makes what he says more
> important or relevant ... when it's just noise afaic.

It is exactly that.

>>
> He's lost the plot, I just feel pity for him, I'm guessing he can't help
> himself. ;-(

He cannot. And some use his challenges for their own gain. I feel bad for him.
>
> Cheers, T i m

[Steve Carroll]

>>>> On Feb 17, 2024 at 12:45:52â\u20ac¯AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote

>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>> What you have shown on the topic of his challenges, from what I have
>>>> seen, is the same level of understanding and coding skills I have
>>>> shown -- which is to say not offering ANY real advice of value.
>>>
>>> Bingo. Apd has very obviously and interactively dealt with my requests
>>> and actually helped.
>>>
>>> SC has said he could help but chooses not to
>>
>> Apparently, you're *so* out of touch with reality you think people can
>> just 'pause' their life activities to help you to the extent Apd has
>> been able to. I wouldn't been able to have done so even *if* you were
>> willing to meet me halfway by showing you were interested in learning,
>> too.
>
> He has no interest in learning it, no. His desire is to tell someone his
> needs/wants and they do the work for him. Which is what he's done here with
> Apd.

Are you suggesting Tim's real "hobby" is getting "others" to do things
for him? ;)

> What I've actually shown on the subject, that you and others have pointed
> out, is actual advanced knowledge and understanding of it; supported with
> code I authored. Snit and Tim aren't even capable of understanding what I've
> shared already. Let alone able to determine who can/can't write code well.
> FTR told him why I consider what APds having to do for him to be crayon
> level; because I could (I have) write my own bin and flash it to the damn
> chip myself; they are versatile micro controllers; you don't have to do any
> of it thru any of the IDEs you're using if you don't want to. And tims
> response to that is to claim it's not relevant because I haven't helped him
> with anything. <G>

I don't know where his weird sense of entitlement comes from <shrug>.

> That's how far out of touch these people are concerning this, SC.

I'm aware. What baffles me is *how* unaware Tim is (Glasser is just
writing from his ass, 'doing what he does').

> They have more in common with each other, And David Brooks, than they do
> anyone else here.

I admit it's spooky the degree to which Tim is like Glasser. That said,
I don't believe he's nearly as clueless on a number of levels. Unless
Tim is also just as big a liar, it appears he's actually done things in
the real world, Glasser is a self-admitted shut-in who has little real
world experience; when he goes out into it, he's gets in trouble with
the law, no doubt because he's so far detached from reality.

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 1:56:06 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<ur33l6$2mcf4$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> <div id="editor" contenteditable="false">>> Apparently, you're *so* out of

> touch with reality you think people can
>>> just 'pause' their life activities to help you to the extent Apd has
>>> been able to. I wouldn't been able to have done so even *if* you were
>>> willing to meet me halfway by showing you were interested in learning,
>>> too.
>>
>> He has no interest in learning it, no. His desire is to tell someone his
>> needs/wants and they do the work for him. Which is what he's done here with
>> Apd.
>
> Are you suggesting Tim's real "hobby" is getting "others" to do things
> for him? ;)

You failed to help and now want to blame him.

>
>> What I've actually shown on the subject, that you and others have pointed
>> out, is actual advanced knowledge and understanding of it; supported with
>> code I authored. Snit and Tim aren't even capable of understanding what I've
>> shared already. Let alone able to determine who can/can't write code well.
>> FTR told him why I consider what APds having to do for him to be crayon
>> level; because I could (I have) write my own bin and flash it to the damn
>> chip myself; they are versatile micro controllers; you don't have to do any
>> of it thru any of the IDEs you're using if you don't want to. And tims
>> response to that is to claim it's not relevant because I haven't helped him
>> with anything. <G>
>
> I don't know where his weird sense of entitlement comes from <shrug>.

Where did yours come from? Tim showed NONE. I offered no real help... he was
fine with that.

>
>> That's how far out of touch these people are concerning this, SC.
>
> I'm aware. What baffles me is *how* unaware Tim is (Glasser is just
> writing from his ass, 'doing what he does').

See how you lash out.

>
>> They have more in common with each other, And David Brooks, than they do
>> anyone else here.
>
> I admit it's spooky the degree to which Tim is like Glasser.

He often is honest and understanding... but we have many differences.

> That said,
> I don't believe he's nearly as clueless on a number of levels. Unless
> Tim is also just as big a liar, it appears he's actually done things in
> the real world, Glasser is a self-admitted shut-in who has little real
> world experience; when he goes out into it, he's gets in trouble with
> the law, no doubt because he's so far detached from reality.

Last week you whined about my travels because it did fit your entitled world
view. You forget your trolling from day to day.

[T i m]

On 20/02/2024 20:51, Snit wrote:
<snip>

>> Why is he still replying to me?
>
> He wants to convince people that his utter lack of examples of relevant code
> was somehow more than Carroll's actual examples, all while ignoring that Apd
> is the one who offered the only truly valuable support.

But where does that get him? To me he's just howling at the moon?

>
>>
>> I *honestly* have opened up his last little bursts of tantrums, skimmed
>> the first few words, felt sorry for him and closed it.
>
> A wise response.

It's sad in a way that he feels sufficiently affected by little me to
put so much effort into trying to prove I don't know what? That he knows
how to code better than me? That would hardly be any sort of boast!

>
>>
>> He actually seems to think referencing me makes what he says more
>> important or relevant ... when it's just noise afaic.
>
> It is exactly that.

That he thinks that by putting my name into most of his posts is going
to somehow force me to counter him or try to defend his bizarre
accusations and misconceptions? I just think it's sad to watch him
fighting ghosts. ;-(

>
>>>
>> He's lost the plot, I just feel pity for him, I'm guessing he can't help
>> himself. ;-(
>
> He cannot. And some use his challenges for their own gain. I feel bad for him.

Me too, not something he would be likely to take the right way though. ;-(

If he actually thought I was attacking him, I wonder how he would react
if I actually was! ;-(

Cheers, T i m

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 2:47:38 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
<ur36lt$2n35q$1...@dont-email.me>:

> On 20/02/2024 20:51, Snit wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>> Why is he still replying to me?
>>
>> He wants to convince people that his utter lack of examples of relevant code
>> was somehow more than Carroll's actual examples, all while ignoring that Apd
>> is the one who offered the only truly valuable support.
>
> But where does that get him? To me he's just howling at the moon?

He likes the sound of his (virtual) voice. And he does it to please Carroll.

>>> I *honestly* have opened up his last little bursts of tantrums, skimmed
>>> the first few words, felt sorry for him and closed it.
>>
>> A wise response.
>
> It's sad in a way that he feels sufficiently affected by little me to
> put so much effort into trying to prove I don't know what? That he knows
> how to code better than me? That would hardly be any sort of boast!

I describe myself as a "shitty scripter". He and Carroll spend massive amounts
of time trying to prove they are better than that. What is sad is how they
have failed in some areas. I admit I rub their nose in it sometimes when they
attack.

>>> He actually seems to think referencing me makes what he says more
>>> important or relevant ... when it's just noise afaic.
>>
>> It is exactly that.
>
> That he thinks that by putting my name into most of his posts is going
> to somehow force me to counter him or try to defend his bizarre
> accusations and misconceptions? I just think it's sad to watch him
> fighting ghosts. ;-(

I have trained him that way. Good to see you NOT do it. You do realize he will
see it as a "win" -- In his mind he must be right and you ran away. It is sad.

>>
>>>>
>>> He's lost the plot, I just feel pity for him, I'm guessing he can't help
>>> himself. ;-(
>>
>> He cannot. And some use his challenges for their own gain. I feel bad for him.
>
> Me too, not something he would be likely to take the right way though. ;-(

Agreed. I did see him be more open and vulnerable for a post or two. He does
have that in him.

>
> If he actually thought I was attacking him, I wonder how he would react
> if I actually was! ;-(

Same here. He and Carroll for some reason want to be victims. It is sad.

[T i m]

On 20/02/2024 21:03, Snit wrote:
<snip>

>> Are you suggesting Tim's real "hobby" is getting "others" to do things
>> for him? ;)
>
> You failed to help and now want to blame him.

I really don't understand why both of them are still digging? I mean,
how feeble / pathetic would one have to be to think I could force anyone
to do anything they didn't want to on Usenet!
>
<snip>

>>
>> I don't know where his weird sense of entitlement comes from <shrug>.
>
> Where did yours come from?

From his inferiority complex I'm guessing, tat or I've put his nose out
of joint somehow?

> Tim showed NONE.

Quite, why would I, I was *asking* for help as I can do no more than that?

> I offered no real help... he was
> fine with that.

Of course, I was equally happy with SC's reply where he said he could
help but didn't want to (then changed that to 'not having the time to'
then 'I have my own life to lead ...')?

He's like one of those people who feel the need to state things like 'I
hate being stuck in traffic' like the rest of us love it.

>>
>>> That's how far out of touch these people are concerning this, SC.
>>
>> I'm aware. What baffles me is *how* unaware Tim is (Glasser is just
>> writing from his ass, 'doing what he does').
>
> See how you lash out.

And the irony was that from my very post I STATED just how little I knew
about coding! It's like the penny has finally dropped with them!

>

>> I admit it's spooky the degree to which Tim is like Glasser.
>
> He often is honest

I am *always* honest. It's very much 'me'. Reason, my memory isn't good
enough for anything else.

> and understanding...

I try to be.

> but we have many differences.

And some pretty big ones at that!
>
The stupid thing is, Dustin and I seem to have quite a lot in common.
One of the biggest things we don't seem to share is our levels of
mindful / self awareness, ego and proportion?

ALL of *this*, given everything that is going on in my life and even the
world right now is insignificant. The only reason I'm replying to you
now is that I hope the crazy twins read it and get on with something
more wholesome and productive. ;-)


Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

On 20/02/2024 21:53, Snit wrote:
<snip>

>>>> He's lost the plot, I just feel pity for him, I'm guessing he can't help
>>>> himself. ;-(
>>>
>>> He cannot. And some use his challenges for their own gain. I feel bad for him.
>>
>> Me too, not something he would be likely to take the right way though. ;-(
>
> Agreed. I did see him be more open and vulnerable for a post or two. He does
> have that in him.

Yeah, I read a couple of replies where I thought he was being quite
reasonable and actually open to trying to understand better, then he
goes back into one! ;-(

Cheers, T i m

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-20, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:

>> I offered no real help... he was fine with that.
>
> Of course, I was equally happy with SC's reply

Right... anyone could see that <eyeroll>.

The usenet archive shows what it shows, neither of you can change that.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-20, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I describe myself as a "shitty scripter".

I describe you as a pathological liar, as do many "others"... at least,
when they're being nice about it... when they're not, well, you've seen.

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 2:53:56 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
<Ub9BN.400431$7sbb....@fx16.iad>:

> On Feb 20, 2024 at 2:47:38 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
> <ur36lt$2n35q$1...@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 20/02/2024 20:51, Snit wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> Why is he still replying to me?
>>>
>>> He wants to convince people that his utter lack of examples of relevant code
>>> was somehow more than Carroll's actual examples, all while ignoring that Apd
>>> is the one who offered the only truly valuable support.
>>
>> But where does that get him? To me he's just howling at the moon?
>
> He likes the sound of his (virtual) voice. And he does it to please Carroll.
>
>>>> I *honestly* have opened up his last little bursts of tantrums, skimmed
>>>> the first few words, felt sorry for him and closed it.
>>>
>>> A wise response.
>>
>> It's sad in a way that he feels sufficiently affected by little me to
>> put so much effort into trying to prove I don't know what? That he knows
>> how to code better than me? That would hardly be any sort of boast!
>
> I describe myself as a "shitty scripter". He and Carroll spend massive amounts
> of time trying to prove they are better than that. What is sad is how they
> have failed in some areas. I admit I rub their nose in it sometimes when they
> attack.

Carroll responded with attacks and lies. He cannot face who he is.

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 4:08:47 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<ur3bdv$2nv25$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

You cannot stop lying and making every conversation about your psychological
problems.

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 3:25:42 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
<ur38t8$2nhpo$1...@dont-email.me>:

> On 20/02/2024 21:03, Snit wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>> Are you suggesting Tim's real "hobby" is getting "others" to do things
>>> for him? ;)
>>
>> You failed to help and now want to blame him.
>
> I really don't understand why both of them are still digging? I mean,
> how feeble / pathetic would one have to be to think I could force anyone
> to do anything they didn't want to on Usenet!

Carroll has spent the last 20 years of his life trying to find dirt on me and
FAILING. I went 5 years not replying to his posts. He could not stop himself.
He even reached out to my employers, clients, family and more. One of my
clients got the police involved. His family reached out to me as a part of an
intervention they had for him. He really is a very sick man.

>>
> <snip>
>>>
>>> I don't know where his weird sense of entitlement comes from <shrug>.
>>
>> Where did yours come from?
>
> From his inferiority complex I'm guessing, tat or I've put his nose out
> of joint somehow?

It is not you... he sees himself as a victim. Always.

>
>> Tim showed NONE.
>
> Quite, why would I, I was *asking* for help as I can do no more than that?

You did show some... I meant Gremlin. Sorry for the error.

>
>> I offered no real help... he was
>> fine with that.
>
> Of course, I was equally happy with SC's reply where he said he could
> help but didn't want to (then changed that to 'not having the time to'
> then 'I have my own life to lead ...')?

This was during the same time he was attacking me for not spending more time
working with Gremlin -- on a physical system I had no access to when I was out
of town.

And shortly after he was telling me to replace a 2010 Mac Book Air with a
Studio (made no sense) then saying a 2017 Intel MacBook would serve as well --
for a PORTABLE system. He does not even try to be consistent with his trolling
crap.

>
> He's like one of those people who feel the need to state things like 'I
> hate being stuck in traffic' like the rest of us love it.

But he says it when he is not, and blames others for it.

>>>
>>>> That's how far out of touch these people are concerning this, SC.
>>>
>>> I'm aware. What baffles me is *how* unaware Tim is (Glasser is just
>>> writing from his ass, 'doing what he does').
>>
>> See how you lash out.
>
> And the irony was that from my very post I STATED just how little I knew
> about coding! It's like the penny has finally dropped with them!

Right. They go on and on and on... as if others want to join their pissing
contests.

>>
>
>>> I admit it's spooky the degree to which Tim is like Glasser.
>>
>> He often is honest
>
> I am *always* honest. It's very much 'me'. Reason, my memory isn't good
> enough for anything else.

Fair enough.

>
>> and understanding...
>
> I try to be.

We have butted heads... but both of us are mature enough to not focus on that.

>
>> but we have many differences.
>
> And some pretty big ones at that!
>>
> The stupid thing is, Dustin and I seem to have quite a lot in common.
> One of the biggest things we don't seem to share is our levels of
> mindful / self awareness, ego and proportion?

Agreed.

>
> ALL of *this*, given everything that is going on in my life and even the
> world right now is insignificant. The only reason I'm replying to you
> now is that I hope the crazy twins read it and get on with something
> more wholesome and productive. ;-)

They will use it as an avenue of attack. Count on it.
>
>
> Cheers, T i m

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 3:29:16 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
<ur393s$2nhpo$2...@dont-email.me>:

Yeah... and Carroll pushes him to be the "bad" version of himself.

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:Dy7BN.251052$yEgf....@fx09.iad
Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:39 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:41槙u20ac烈M MST, "Gremlin" wrote

> <XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>
>> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:uqpq3o$aqfc$1...@dont-email.me Sat, 17
>> Feb 2024 08:17:59 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>
>>> On 17/02/2024 07:45, Gremlin wrote:
>>>> Hi Tim!
>>>
>>> Hi <whateveryourrealnameis>!
>>
>> It's Dustin. My real name isn't a secret, Tim...
>
> But you did blur out your house on Google Maps.

Taking Davids word for anything is just as stupid as taking yours for
anything at face value, snit. The home owner has to be the one to contact
the great and powerful google, according to the process. That I had to
lookup, because, I've never done it before? so I didn't even know how you'd
go about doing it in the first place. And, I am not that individual. Not for
that address, anyway. :)

> But you also told me in public writing I could share
> your number -- and then freaked out when I did.

What I specifically told you that you could share was your caller ID log,
snit. At no time did I give you permission to share the 'number' I *gave you
over voice during the course of our conversation* - Why do you use such
oddball/odd duck terms on usenet? freak out, ran away, lost it, etc? Do you
really think you're convincing anyone who can think in a logical manner that
you are something, anything really at this point right?, other than what
you've already shown yourself to be here and elsewhere?

>>> <so snip the rest unread>
>>
>> That's okay, snit. Uhh, I mean Tim.
>
> You get confused easily.

ROFL. You need to learn to read for comprehension. I didn't make any
mistakes there. It was an intentional reference to your well known and
documented behavior. Tim, the poor sod, seems to have some of the same
issues as yourself.

> Projection.

Nope. You're the fucking king of that, Snit.

> Where did he say he was an expert?

:) If I'm not mistaken, he does have a few certs under his belt. I do
believe he's a CompTIA Instructor, if I'm not mistaken. Well, we have
something in common there. I've had my Comptia A+ certification (which is
still active status AND grandfathered) for 24 years? I think it is now, this
coming June.

> You are the one who repeatedly says
> you are and pretends you are not a peer of others... your ego.

In the specific context that I've been using the word, Snit, you and I are
not peers; But Apd, Ftr, and myself, are. I know, that irks you to no end;
but it's the truth. It has nothing to do with any ego on my end, it's a
simple fact that you aren't a peer of mine in the technical field. For
whatever reason, you had just enough interest in tech to make a living?
teaching? those who know and understand even less about it than you do.
Basically, you're on par with Tim. He's a peer of yours, but, I'm not. He
obviously needs Apds assistance and there's no issue with that, but, I
don't.

I really don't understand how either of you actually taught others, though.
I really don't. How do you teach others material that you yourself, do not,
understand? Please, explain to me how that is done. I really do not know how
either of you did it. I can only go by what the two of you have written here
to myself and others.

Tim mentioned ripping cds into mp3s I think? Would be an interesting
discussion. I'd be curious what software he used to rip, and the specific
codec he selected to do the encoding. Such little details do matter, if your
goal is to get the most accurate sound as you possibly can from the mp3. The
original wav has to be mint for example. It's easy to think you got a good
rip, only to have cracks, pops, missing audio, due to poor actual ripping.
How did he deal with the audio cds which had been modified to prevent
ripping? Some had trouble playing at all in cdroms (they were multi session,
but done with invalid track data layout or a bad index table, intended to
fuck with, confuse, and eventually cause a computer desktop cdrom to abort
with cd read failure). What did he do with the Sony cds, if he ripped any,
that actually had a windows friendly (fucking rootkit!) on them? Just get
his gear jacked and taken over?

You've both been around a long time, there's no way neither of you know
anything about what I shared. Not if you've been in tech of any sort for as
long as you want everyone here to think, anyway.

[Gremlin]

Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>

news:ur33l6$2mcf4$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Tue, 20 Feb 2024

20:56:06 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On 2024-02-20, Gremlin <nob...@haph.org> wrote:
>>> On 2024-02-17, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> SC has said he could help but chooses not to
>>>
>>> Apparently, you're *so* out of touch with reality you think people can
>>> just 'pause' their life activities to help you to the extent Apd has
>>> been able to. I wouldn't been able to have done so even *if* you were
>>> willing to meet me halfway by showing you were interested in learning,
>>> too.
>>
>> He has no interest in learning it, no. His desire is to tell someone
>> his needs/wants and they do the work for him. Which is what he's done
>> here with Apd.
>
> Are you suggesting Tim's real "hobby" is getting "others" to do things
> for him? ;)

I haven't wasted any time searching for posts from him in other newsgroups,
so, I couldn't tell you. Apd seems fine with it, and it's probably because
he has the time (obviously), and is probably enjoying the mental stimulation
that remote assistance can offer. I'm sure he's aware of what Tims about and
has chosen to ignore it. He's written on the subject where it concerned me
already, I don't expect he'll be repeating what he's already stated.

>> What I've actually shown on the subject, that you and others have
>> pointed out, is actual advanced knowledge and understanding of it;
>> supported with code I authored. Snit and Tim aren't even capable of
>> understanding what I've shared already. Let alone able to determine who
>> can/can't write code well. FTR told him why I consider what APds having
>> to do for him to be crayon level; because I could (I have) write my own
>> bin and flash it to the damn chip myself; they are versatile micro
>> controllers; you don't have to do any of it thru any of the IDEs you're
>> using if you don't want to. And tims response to that is to claim it's
>> not relevant because I haven't helped him with anything. <G>
>
> I don't know where his weird sense of entitlement comes from <shrug>.

He decided I was some kind of problem when he stated that I couldn't do what
the HA kit is doing with my own gear. His immediate response was to assume
that I couldn't; that somehow, having the bits, the coding skill and
knowledge required, and the necessary time, that I couldn't roll my own
'smart' system. WTF? Hell, you found that odd enough to ask him the same
question as I did. :)

>> That's how far out of touch these people are concerning this, SC.
>
> I'm aware. What baffles me is *how* unaware Tim is (Glasser is just
> writing from his ass, 'doing what he does').

And Tim is lapping it up, and asking for more, like a good...little doggy.

>> They have more in common with each other, And David Brooks, than they
>> do anyone else here.
>
> I admit it's spooky the degree to which Tim is like Glasser.

Downright to some of the same writing mannerisms and usage of english. They
are from different fucking countries; how is it even possible they could be
so umm, much alike in some respects? Someones mom or dad take a plane to the
others country and have some fun did they? Are they fucking related?

> That said, I don't believe he's nearly as clueless on a number of levels.

Doesn't seem to be. Meat puppet didn't really either, though. <G> It's
amazing what you can use a search engine or AI for, and then pass yourself
off as the one who knew the information. Atleast, at first. You do get
caught, usually by one of us with actual 1st hand knowledge of the subject.
:)

> Unless Tim is also just as big a liar, it appears he's actually done
things in
> the real world

I don't know him outside of here, and very little of him since he's been
here. I didn't even know the dude had a problem with me, until I read his
label for me. I thought I was getting along fine with the dude. Until he
decided I was a 'know it all' - that took me by surprise. I'm not the best
judge of what someones actual opinion of me might be, obviously. :) I blame
this on too much screen time, too little social interaction.

> Glasser is a self-admitted shut-in who has little real
> world experience; when he goes out into it, he's gets in trouble with
> the law, no doubt because he's so far detached from reality.

Well stated, but, I do believe you've under stated how detached he actually
is. For example, how many grown ass adults in their fifties carry around a
stuffed animal in their pocket for emotional support? Serious question.

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 7:26:16 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11EDA...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
> news:ur33l6$2mcf4$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Tue, 20 Feb 2024
> 20:56:06 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>> On 2024-02-20, Gremlin <nob...@haph.org> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-02-17, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>> SC has said he could help but chooses not to
>>>>
>>>> Apparently, you're *so* out of touch with reality you think people can
>>>> just 'pause' their life activities to help you to the extent Apd has
>>>> been able to. I wouldn't been able to have done so even *if* you were
>>>> willing to meet me halfway by showing you were interested in learning,
>>>> too.
>>>
>>> He has no interest in learning it, no. His desire is to tell someone
>>> his needs/wants and they do the work for him. Which is what he's done
>>> here with Apd.
>>
>> Are you suggesting Tim's real "hobby" is getting "others" to do things
>> for him? ;)
>
> I haven't wasted any time searching for posts from him in other newsgroups,
> so, I couldn't tell you.

But you can continue to mindlessly follow whatever Carroll tells you to
believe.

> Apd seems fine with it, and it's probably because
> he has the time (obviously), and is probably enjoying the mental stimulation
> that remote assistance can offer.

He is being a decent human being... unlike you and Carroll.

> I'm sure he's aware of what Tims about and
> has chosen to ignore it.

Unlike you and Carroll he is not obsessing over petty squabbles. But notice
how fast you went to mindlessly trusting Carroll... even with no evidence.

> He's written on the subject where it concerned me
> already, I don't expect he'll be repeating what he's already stated.
>
>
>>> What I've actually shown on the subject, that you and others have
>>> pointed out, is actual advanced knowledge and understanding of it;
>>> supported with code I authored. Snit and Tim aren't even capable of
>>> understanding what I've shared already. Let alone able to determine who
>>> can/can't write code well. FTR told him why I consider what APds having
>>> to do for him to be crayon level; because I could (I have) write my own
>>> bin and flash it to the damn chip myself; they are versatile micro
>>> controllers; you don't have to do any of it thru any of the IDEs you're
>>> using if you don't want to. And tims response to that is to claim it's
>>> not relevant because I haven't helped him with anything. <G>
>>
>> I don't know where his weird sense of entitlement comes from <shrug>.
>
> He decided I was some kind of problem

You presented yourself as such.

> when he stated that I couldn't do what
> the HA kit is doing with my own gear. His immediate response was to assume
> that I couldn't; that somehow, having the bits, the coding skill and
> knowledge required, and the necessary time, that I couldn't roll my own
> 'smart' system. WTF? Hell, you found that odd enough to ask him the same
> question as I did. :)

Carroll showed more skill than you did. Apd even more. You and I showed no
real skill here. We did not help Tim.

>
>>> That's how far out of touch these people are concerning this, SC.
>>
>> I'm aware. What baffles me is *how* unaware Tim is (Glasser is just
>> writing from his ass, 'doing what he does').
>
> And Tim is lapping it up, and asking for more, like a good...little doggy.

Tim is well aware you offered no help and Carroll trolled him.

>
>>> They have more in common with each other, And David Brooks, than they
>>> do anyone else here.
>>
>> I admit it's spooky the degree to which Tim is like Glasser.
>
> Downright to some of the same writing mannerisms and usage of english.

How dare he use English! LOL!

> They
> are from different fucking countries; how is it even possible they could be
> so umm, much alike in some respects? Someones mom or dad take a plane to the
> others country and have some fun did they? Are they fucking related?

You cannot stand when people call you out. Most people just wonder away, as he
is doing. You and Carroll both pretend that means you are right to troll and
lie and attack.

>
>> That said, I don't believe he's nearly as clueless on a number of levels.
>
> Doesn't seem to be. Meat puppet didn't really either, though. <G> It's
> amazing what you can use a search engine or AI for, and then pass yourself
> off as the one who knew the information. Atleast, at first. You do get
> caught, usually by one of us with actual 1st hand knowledge of the subject.
> :)

How does it feel when you are caught?

>
>> Unless Tim is also just as big a liar, it appears he's actually done
> things in
>> the real world
>
> I don't know him outside of here, and very little of him since he's been
> here. I didn't even know the dude had a problem with me, until I read his
> label for me.

He has a problem with your poor behavior. You play victim over that.

> I thought I was getting along fine with the dude. Until he
> decided I was a 'know it all'

You do present yourself as such. And you LOVE your pissing contests.

> - that took me by surprise. I'm not the best
> judge of what someones actual opinion of me might be, obviously. :) I blame
> this on too much screen time, too little social interaction.

Thanks for the admission. Sincerely.

>
>> Glasser is a self-admitted shut-in who has little real
>> world experience; when he goes out into it, he's gets in trouble with
>> the law, no doubt because he's so far detached from reality.
>
> Well stated,

You think his lies are "well stated". Again, you suck up his trolling
mindlessly. Thanks for proving it. Again.

> but, I do believe you've under stated how detached he actually
> is. For example, how many grown ass adults in their fifties carry around a
> stuffed animal in their pocket for emotional support? Serious question.

See: you suck up his trolling. You cannot help yourself.

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 7:26:14 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11EDA...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:Dy7BN.251052$yEgf....@fx09.iad
> Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:39 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>

>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:41â\u20acŻPM MST, "Gremlin" wrote

>> <XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>
>>> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:uqpq3o$aqfc$1...@dont-email.me Sat, 17
>>> Feb 2024 08:17:59 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 17/02/2024 07:45, Gremlin wrote:
>>>>> Hi Tim!
>>>>
>>>> Hi <whateveryourrealnameis>!
>>>
>>> It's Dustin. My real name isn't a secret, Tim...
>>
>> But you did blur out your house on Google Maps.

You ignored this to talk about someone who is not relevant.

>
>> But you also told me in public writing I could share
>> your number -- and then freaked out when I did.
>
> What I specifically told you that you could share was your caller ID log,

My provider's log. Which I did. And then you had a tantrum. You are still
having it.

>> Projection.
>
> Nope. You're the fucking king of that, Snit.

I quoted an example of you doing so. You are just blindly repeating Carroll's
trolling.

>
>> Where did he say he was an expert?
>
> :) If I'm not mistaken, he does have a few certs under his belt. I do
> believe he's a CompTIA Instructor, if I'm not mistaken. Well, we have
> something in common there. I've had my Comptia A+ certification (which is
> still active status AND grandfathered) for 24 years? I think it is now, this
> coming June.

But no place he said he was an expert on what was being discussed.

>
>> You are the one who repeatedly says
>> you are and pretends you are not a peer of others... your ego.
>
> In the specific context that I've been using the word, Snit, you and I are
> not peers;

Your ego is not going to be matched by many.

> But Apd, Ftr, and myself, are. I know, that irks you to no end;

This is a fine example of your projection. Where did you even come up with the
idea of my being "irked"?

>
> I really don't understand how either of you actually taught others, though.

Just one of your many weaknesses -- but glad you can admit to it.

> Tim mentioned ripping cds into mp3s I think? Would be an interesting
> discussion.

It is easy to do.

> You've both been around a long time, there's no way neither of you know
> anything about what I shared.

You have shared how big your ego is.

[%]

Gremlin wrote:
> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:Dy7BN.251052$yEgf....@fx09.iad
> Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:39 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>

>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:41â\u20ac¯PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote

[T i m]

On 21/02/2024 02:35, Snit wrote:
> On Feb 20, 2024 at 7:26:16 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
> <XnsB11EDA...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

>> - that took me by surprise. I'm not the best
>> judge of what someones actual opinion of me might be, obviously. :) I blame
>> this on too much screen time, too little social interaction.
>
> Thanks for the admission. Sincerely.

Yup, and I really believe this is the crux of the matter.

Dustin *thought / thinks* I attacked him *because* I questioned the
realism of him:

1) Understanding how to correctly (re) lubricate a sintered bearing

and

2) That he could (realistically) duplicate the features of the MASSIVE
project that is Home Assistant with it's permanent team of dev and
hundreds of ad-hoc ones, especially with a dew components from his
bits-box and his code.

He then compounded the obvious lack of knowledge re the lubrication by
doing an SC, changing the goalposts to 'it's working fine' to 'he was
mentored' to 'it's just a cheap fan heater' and 'it's not worth doing'
and all the 'I've rebuilt fucking 1000's of motors fucking dude you are
probably fucking protein deficient fucking <rant spittle fume>'.

Literally spitting his dummy over *nothing*. Well, nothing a *normal*
person would have reacted like that over ... ;-(

And it's obvious he's still trying to counter my suggestion that he
couldn't *realistically*, (well not in his remaining lifetime) duplicate
Home Assistant and it's ludicrous that he thinks he could?

I'm more than happy to believe he might be able to do some of it, but so
far, I've had no proof that he could. I'm NOT saying he couldn't (I had
to state that as he / SC would pick up the shitty end up the stick
AGAIN), I'm saying I have no proof that he could, very different to Apd
who has proved over and over that he can (because he has).

And if SC/ Dustin think that posting loads of random code is going to
prove anything to me other than they can copy / paste ...

But it's obvious that I'm now / still a thorn in Dustins side but there
is little I can do about that, short of lying to say that I was actually
trying to attack him (when I wasn't). If I'm just some 'crayon level
coder' (and I am) why is he even bothered with *anything* I have to say
about coding, given he's told us he's a coding goD?

I really think he should un-barracade his bunker door, go out and get
some sunshine and talk to real people again.

Or, if he wants to get a very fast lesson in social interaction, react
as he did with me in a bar and see how he gets on. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 10:49:53 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
<ur42u4$2vfj3$1...@dont-email.me>:

> On 21/02/2024 02:35, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 7:26:16 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>> <XnsB11EDA...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>
>>> - that took me by surprise. I'm not the best
>>> judge of what someones actual opinion of me might be, obviously. :) I blame
>>> this on too much screen time, too little social interaction.
>>
>> Thanks for the admission. Sincerely.
>
> Yup, and I really believe this is the crux of the matter.
>
> Dustin *thought / thinks* I attacked him *because* I questioned the
> realism of him:
>
> 1) Understanding how to correctly (re) lubricate a sintered bearing
>
> and
>
> 2) That he could (realistically) duplicate the features of the MASSIVE
> project that is Home Assistant with it's permanent team of dev and
> hundreds of ad-hoc ones, especially with a dew components from his
> bits-box and his code.
>
> He then compounded the obvious lack of knowledge re the lubrication by
> doing an SC, changing the goalposts to 'it's working fine' to 'he was
> mentored' to 'it's just a cheap fan heater' and 'it's not worth doing'
> and all the 'I've rebuilt fucking 1000's of motors fucking dude you are
> probably fucking protein deficient fucking <rant spittle fume>'.

Good summary of what they do. They are ego focused, and they move goalposts
and play victim when they back themselves into corners.

> Literally spitting his dummy over *nothing*. Well, nothing a *normal*
> person would have reacted like that over ... ;-(

Right. And they both fail to see how much help they need.

>
> And it's obvious he's still trying to counter my suggestion that he
> couldn't *realistically*, (well not in his remaining lifetime) duplicate
> Home Assistant and it's ludicrous that he thinks he could?

He makes all sorts of claims. Heck, forget a ton of developers... *I* made a
product he and Carroll said they could best. They both went on and on. Carroll
has finally admitted his change of topic was, well, not on topic. Neither can
make a chat both which offers as "human-like" of responses. Now, of course, if
you get a team with modern AI I am sure my efforts would be shredded (they
have been with Turing Test competitions).

> I'm more than happy to believe he might be able to do some of it, but so
> far, I've had no proof that he could. I'm NOT saying he couldn't (I had
> to state that as he / SC would pick up the shitty end up the stick
> AGAIN), I'm saying I have no proof that he could, very different to Apd
> who has proved over and over that he can (because he has).

RIGHT! I have gone round and round with Gremlin noting I have not seen proof
he can do what he says... nor do I really care. He speaks of harming people
with malware... a claim I cannot imagine why he would be proud of... but he
claims it. Maybe it is true. Maybe not. His evidence fits with him taking the
blame (and credit). People in that world tend to be very private and NOT want
to be caught. Sorta part of the point. He claims he was caught, or allowed
himself to be, and now brags repeatedly. It is very much what would would
expect for a fallguy -- someone being manipulated by the real players. We can
see him being easily manipulated by Carroll. We can see he is not very open or
(presumably) capable in any discussion of coding (your discussion is a fine
example). Does this mean he *IS* a fallguy? No. Of course not. But it fits
with the evidence. He twists that to say I am saying he MUST be a fallguy. He
is not very good at understanding relatively simple concepts.

>
> And if SC/ Dustin think that posting loads of random code is going to
> prove anything to me other than they can copy / paste ...

RIGHT! I show my code... they insist it is not mine. He posts code that might
or might not be his... and they insist it is proof. I could get someone saying
one cannot know if my code is mine -- but they push the lie it is not. They
are hypocrites.

>
> But it's obvious that I'm now / still a thorn in Dustins side but there
> is little I can do about that, short of lying to say that I was actually
> trying to attack him (when I wasn't).

Gremlin has repeatedly demanded I lie for him... as a sign of good faith and,
ironically, honesty. He is poor with logic -- which seems contrary to his
claims of being a good programmer.

> If I'm just some 'crayon level
> coder' (and I am) why is he even bothered with *anything* I have to say
> about coding, given he's told us he's a coding goD?

He ego is very fragile. He does the same with me and soldering, even though I
do not solder.

>
> I really think he should un-barracade his bunker door, go out and get
> some sunshine and talk to real people again.

Agreed. Same with Carroll.

>
> Or, if he wants to get a very fast lesson in social interaction, react
> as he did with me in a bar and see how he gets on. ;-)

I suspect he has been given such lessons a number of times.
>
> Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

On 21/02/2024 02:26, Gremlin wrote:

<A glimpse of the Gremlin I thought knew here>

>
> Tim mentioned ripping cds into mp3s I think?

I did.

> Would be an interesting
> discussion.

And one we could still have, if you have calmed down?

> I'd be curious what software he used to rip,

Typically Windows Media Player as I'm generally on a Windows PC but also
iTunes (Win / Mac) and I'm sure I've done it on Linux (Audacity?).

> and the specific
> codec he selected to do the encoding.

Pass, I would generally just leave it at the defaults, as long as it
produced an .mp3.

> Such little details do matter,

To you probably, others less so.

> if your
> goal is to get the most accurate sound as you possibly can from the mp3.

It wasn't, because the 'best sound' also often means 'the biggest file
size' and the early .mp3 players I was playing with weren't very big
capacity.

Also, unless you are listening to the recordings in an anechoic chamber
with the best quality reproduction equipment, perfection isn't really
realistic goal for me.

> The
> original wav has to be mint for example. It's easy to think you got a good
> rip, only to have cracks, pops, missing audio, due to poor actual ripping.

GIGO.

> How did he deal with the audio cds which had been modified to prevent
> ripping?

Not sure I ever came across one? Pupped the CD in and they all just
autoripped?

> Some had trouble playing at all in cdroms

I certainly did with my first PC CDROM drive. It was an external
Goldstar X1 speed using, came complete with a small ISA I/O card
(probably SCSI) and that struggled to 'play' many audio CDs. I bought it
because a PC Mag I bought at the time came with a CD ROM stuck to the
front that boasted 'Over 500MB of games and utilities' and I didn't know
anyone with a CD drive on their PC at that time. I think the drive cost
me over 200 GBP at the time!

> (they were multi session,
> but done with invalid track data layout or a bad index table, intended to
> fuck with, confuse, and eventually cause a computer desktop cdrom to abort
> with cd read failure).

Certainly the case with most (all?) Playstation games and why I
'chipped' about 20 PS1's for people.

> What did he do with the Sony cds, if he ripped any,
> that actually had a windows friendly (fucking rootkit!) on them?

Pass, I can't remember any of the brands, just put them in a ripped them?

> Just get
> his gear jacked and taken over?

Not that I ever noticed. I do remember it was fun playing around with
MSCDEX. ;-)

>
> You've both been around a long time, there's no way neither of you know
> anything about what I shared.

About what, the above. Get over yerself mate.

> Not if you've been in tech of any sort for as
> long as you want everyone here to think, anyway.

You know with your pissing contest ... because of your insular / strange
POV you still win when you piss all over yourself (so 'well done, you
win!') ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

On 21/02/2024 02:40, Snit wrote:

<snip>

>>> Where did he say he was an expert?
>>
>> :) If I'm not mistaken, he does have a few certs under his belt. I do
>> believe he's a CompTIA Instructor, if I'm not mistaken. Well, we have
>> something in common there. I've had my Comptia A+ certification (which is
>> still active status AND grandfathered) for 24 years? I think it is now, this
>> coming June.
>
> But no place he said he was an expert on what was being discussed.

More accurately, in nearly every place I stated I *wasn't* a coding
expert, far from. WHF would I be asking about some .yaml scripting if I
was? He really is fighting his own shadow on this.

And yup, A+ / CompTIA Certified Instructor (for 5 years), Novell
Certified Instructor for 7 years and Microsoft Certified Trainer for 7
years.

The main one was the Novell CHI. You had to sped two days at the UK
Novel HQ in Bracknell where you were put though the IPE (Instructor
Performance Evaluation). You were given a day to prep to present a
module of their choice and then had to present it the next day in front
of 'their people' and the other instructors-to-be. They played the role
of delegates and asked unscripted questions and that was supposed to
show the evaluators how you might respond under those conditions.

You also had to hit the optimal presentation time, say an hours
presentation +_ 5 mins, to make sure you could present the entire course
in time etc.

They looked for 'content accuracy' and 'presentation skills' and you
were marked out of a score of 5 for both. I think a pass was a total of
5 with a minimum of 2 in each. I think I got the 5.

It was both expensive and stressful and many of my fellow instructors to
be were suffering stomach issues and were actually being sick etc.

I went and stayed with a mate locally and he prepped a whiteboard and
was ready to take me though it all as he had some presentation work
before. I politely turned him down, working on the basis that if it was
to be then it would be, so we had a beer and a Chinese instead. ;-)

Both Microsoft and CompTIA recognised and respected the IPE / CNE and as
long as you passed their respective tests (to instructor level) you
could carry the MCT and A+CT roles. You also had to pass the tests for
any module you were going to present at instructor level.

My speciality with MS was MS Mail. I had actually installed MS Mail at
work, with Dial-In for the techs who worked from home and we became the
defacto mail hub (Dial-up at the time) for all the offices round the
world with then also installing MS Mail themselves. ;-)

I ended up speaking to 1st line support at MS over a bug in the MS Mail
to Lotus CC Mail gateway.

I got a distinction when I took my Radio Amateur exam (G7ICW) and the
Mrs was happy with a Pass (G7ICX). Being 8 months pregnant didn't make
it easier for her. ;-)

Out side of those and 3 'O' levels, the rest is just experience, 25
years in IT support / Field Service as a Datacomms Tech, including
building all the PC's and running all the network in a small office (35
people) whilst running our product Help Desk.

It was great because it gave me the opportunity to 'play' with all this
kit and be paid well at the same time (I'd paid for my house when I was
40). ;-)

Along with introducing a network to the Co (Sneakernet when I joined and
golfball typewriters) the next most productive thing I provided (because
I thought it would be a good idea) was an MS Mail to Fax gateway. A big
problem with Fax's was people putting the papers in back to front or
they would get stuck or the transmission would fail for some reason.

With the FAX gateway they simply 'printed' the document to the Fax
Server (over the LAN) and gave it a priority (send immediately or in the
cheap rate etc) and it would try 5 times and if it failed, it would
notify the sender. The resultant fax was always clean, the right way
round and in the right order and they didn't need to faff about in
reception on the fax machine. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[pothead]

On 2024-02-21, Gremlin <nob...@haph.org> wrote:
> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:Dy7BN.251052$yEgf....@fx09.iad
> Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:39 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>

>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:41â\u20ac¯PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote

snit rip a CD?
I doubt that snit could even figure out how to play an audio CD.
He would insert it upside down and when it didn't work he would attempt to return it as defective
to the place from where it was purchased.


--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 6:40:20 AM MST, "pothead" wrote
<ur4ug4$35sm4$1...@dont-email.me>:

You two tech geniuses getting excited you might be able to rip a CD. LOL!

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 11:52:37 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
<ur46jn$3039e$1...@dont-email.me>:

> On 21/02/2024 02:40, Snit wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>>> Where did he say he was an expert?
>>>
>>> :) If I'm not mistaken, he does have a few certs under his belt. I do
>>> believe he's a CompTIA Instructor, if I'm not mistaken. Well, we have
>>> something in common there. I've had my Comptia A+ certification (which is
>>> still active status AND grandfathered) for 24 years? I think it is now, this
>>> coming June.
>>
>> But no place he said he was an expert on what was being discussed.
>
> More accurately, in nearly every place I stated I *wasn't* a coding
> expert, far from. WHF would I be asking about some .yaml scripting if I
> was? He really is fighting his own shadow on this.

He does the same thing with me with electronics. It is sad.

>
> And yup, A+ / CompTIA Certified Instructor (for 5 years), Novell
> Certified Instructor for 7 years and Microsoft Certified Trainer for 7
> years.

Which you note but do not brag about.

>
> The main one was the Novell CHI. You had to sped two days at the UK
> Novel HQ in Bracknell where you were put though the IPE (Instructor
> Performance Evaluation). You were given a day to prep to present a
> module of their choice and then had to present it the next day in front
> of 'their people' and the other instructors-to-be. They played the role
> of delegates and asked unscripted questions and that was supposed to
> show the evaluators how you might respond under those conditions.
>
> You also had to hit the optimal presentation time, say an hours
> presentation +_ 5 mins, to make sure you could present the entire course
> in time etc.
>
> They looked for 'content accuracy' and 'presentation skills' and you
> were marked out of a score of 5 for both. I think a pass was a total of
> 5 with a minimum of 2 in each. I think I got the 5.

OK.

>
> It was both expensive and stressful and many of my fellow instructors to
> be were suffering stomach issues and were actually being sick etc.

I am going through training right now getting over the flu. Not fun.

I am doing very well in my class right now... but with my POTS and flu it is a
push.
>
> Cheers, T i m

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 11:17:52 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
<ur44ij$2vom3$1...@dont-email.me>:

> On 21/02/2024 02:26, Gremlin wrote:
>
> <A glimpse of the Gremlin I thought knew here>
>>
>> Tim mentioned ripping cds into mp3s I think?
>
> I did.
>
>> Would be an interesting
>> discussion.
>
> And one we could still have, if you have calmed down?
>
>> I'd be curious what software he used to rip,
>
> Typically Windows Media Player as I'm generally on a Windows PC but also
> iTunes (Win / Mac) and I'm sure I've done it on Linux (Audacity?).
>
>> and the specific
>> codec he selected to do the encoding.
>
> Pass, I would generally just leave it at the defaults, as long as it
> produced an .mp3.

Been a while since I have done one, but I usually look at the defaults and go
with the higher quality pre-sets. Works well enough.

EXACTLY!

He cannot get others are not into such pissing contests.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 20, 2024 at 4:08:47 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><ur3bdv$2nv25$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2024-02-20, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> I offered no real help... he was fine with that.
>>>
>>> Of course, I was equally happy with SC's reply
>>
>> Right... anyone could see that <eyeroll>.
>>
>> The usenet archive shows what it shows, neither of you can change that.
>
> You cannot stop lying

No lie, the archive shows what both of you have written, and trying to
'shine the light elsewhere' won't make it disappear.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 20, 2024 at 3:25:42 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
><ur38t8$2nhpo$1...@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 20/02/2024 21:03, Snit wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> Are you suggesting Tim's real "hobby" is getting "others" to do things
>>>> for him? ;)
>>>
>>> You failed to help and now want to blame him.
>>
>> I really don't understand why both of them are still digging?

Stop the drama queen crap, Tim... I just quoted your words, there was no
"digging" involved.

>> I mean, how feeble / pathetic would one have to be to think I could
>> force anyone to do anything they didn't want to on Usenet!

How "feeble / pathetic would one have to be to think" the usenet archive
disappears due to a "feeble / pathetic" attempt at 'shining the light
elsewhere'.

> Carroll has spent the last 20 years of his life trying to find dirt on me

There is no 'finding' process necessary as you leave a trail of your
"dirt" for everyone to see. Sober up, Goofy.

>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know where his weird sense of entitlement comes from <shrug>.
>>>
>>> Where did yours come from?
>>
>> From his inferiority complex I'm guessing, tat or I've put his nose out
>> of joint somehow?
>
> It is not you... he sees himself as a victim. Always.
>>
>>> Tim showed NONE.
>>
>> Quite, why would I, I was *asking* for help as I can do no more than that?

You did enough to show you weren't forthcoming, no amount of spinning
can erase that fact.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 20, 2024 at 7:26:14 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
><XnsB11EDA...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>
>> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:Dy7BN.251052$yEgf....@fx09.iad
>> Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:39 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:41â\u20acŻPM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>>> <XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>>
>>>> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:uqpq3o$aqfc$1...@dont-email.me Sat, 17
>>>> Feb 2024 08:17:59 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 17/02/2024 07:45, Gremlin wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Tim!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi <whateveryourrealnameis>!
>>>>
>>>> It's Dustin. My real name isn't a secret, Tim...
>>>
>>> But you did blur out your house on Google Maps.
>
> You ignored this to talk about someone who is not relevant.

LOL! You mention my name every other sentence and you believe you're a
'judge' on what's "relevant". Dry out for a bit, control freak.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:19:49 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<ur57r5$386c7$6...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 3:25:42 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
>> <ur38t8$2nhpo$1...@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> On 20/02/2024 21:03, Snit wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> Are you suggesting Tim's real "hobby" is getting "others" to do things
>>>>> for him? ;)
>>>>
>>>> You failed to help and now want to blame him.
>>>
>>> I really don't understand why both of them are still digging?
>
> Stop the drama queen crap, Tim... I just quoted your words, there was no
> "digging" involved.

You are the one pushing drama. You are digging for attention. It is what you
do.

>>> I mean, how feeble / pathetic would one have to be to think I could
>>> force anyone to do anything they didn't want to on Usenet!
>
> How "feeble / pathetic would one have to be to think" the usenet archive
> disappears due to a "feeble / pathetic" attempt at 'shining the light
> elsewhere'.

Who said any such thing disappears? That is one of your favorite lies.

>
>> Carroll has spent the last 20 years of his life trying to find dirt on me
>
> There is no 'finding' process necessary as you leave a trail of your
> "dirt" for everyone to see. Sober up, Goofy.

You have tried and failed... hence your testament to your failure.

>
>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know where his weird sense of entitlement comes from <shrug>.
>>>>
>>>> Where did yours come from?
>>>
>>> From his inferiority complex I'm guessing, tat or I've put his nose out
>>> of joint somehow?
>>
>> It is not you... he sees himself as a victim. Always.
>>>
>>>> Tim showed NONE.
>>>
>>> Quite, why would I, I was *asking* for help as I can do no more than that?
>
> You did enough to show you weren't forthcoming, no amount of spinning
> can erase that fact.

He was fine... you trolled and attacked. As you do.

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 7:40:14 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
<iodBN.400441$7sbb....@fx16.iad>:

Carroll jumped in to try to defend Gremlin... and failed.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, Gremlin <nob...@haph.org> wrote:

> Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
> news:ur33l6$2mcf4$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Tue, 20 Feb 2024
> 20:56:06 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>> On 2024-02-20, Gremlin <nob...@haph.org> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-02-17, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>> SC has said he could help but chooses not to
>>>>
>>>> Apparently, you're *so* out of touch with reality you think people can
>>>> just 'pause' their life activities to help you to the extent Apd has
>>>> been able to. I wouldn't been able to have done so even *if* you were
>>>> willing to meet me halfway by showing you were interested in learning,
>>>> too.
>>>
>>> He has no interest in learning it, no. His desire is to tell someone
>>> his needs/wants and they do the work for him. Which is what he's done
>>> here with Apd.
>>
>> Are you suggesting Tim's real "hobby" is getting "others" to do things
>> for him? ;)
>
> I haven't wasted any time searching for posts from him in other newsgroups,
> so, I couldn't tell you.

It was a joke (though, maybe it's not?).

> Apd seems fine with it, and it's probably because he has the time
> (obviously), and is probably enjoying the mental stimulation that
> remote assistance can offer.

Apd likes puzzles and coding, I suspect this is sort of a 'combo pack'
for him (seems the biggest part of the puzzle is in finding the f*cking
documentation).

I've noticed.

> They are from different fucking countries; how is it even possible
> they could be so umm, much alike in some respects? Someones mom or dad
> take a plane to the others country and have some fun did they? Are
> they fucking related?
>
>> That said, I don't believe he's nearly as clueless on a number of levels.
>
> Doesn't seem to be. Meat puppet didn't really either, though. <G> It's
> amazing what you can use a search engine or AI for, and then pass yourself
> off as the one who knew the information. Atleast, at first. You do get
> caught, usually by one of us with actual 1st hand knowledge of the subject.
>:)

That's often the case and the way you know what kind of person they are
is how they respond. Some try to use 'psychology', usually by 'table
turning' and/or 'shining the light elsewhere'. As you seen, these kinds
of 'tools' are also employed in an attempt to 'run' from other things
such a person has posted, usually contradictory to what they'd written
previously. Some seem to believe they can hide these things, which is
bizarre as done in an archived text medium <shrug>.

>> Unless Tim is also just as big a liar, it appears he's actually done
> things in
>> the real world
>
> I don't know him outside of here, and very little of him since he's been
> here. I didn't even know the dude had a problem with me, until I read his
> label for me. I thought I was getting along fine with the dude. Until he
> decided I was a 'know it all' - that took me by surprise. I'm not the best
> judge of what someones actual opinion of me might be, obviously. :) I blame
> this on too much screen time, too little social interaction.
>
>> Glasser is a self-admitted shut-in who has little real
>> world experience; when he goes out into it, he's gets in trouble with
>> the law, no doubt because he's so far detached from reality.
>
> Well stated, but, I do believe you've under stated how detached he actually
> is. For example, how many grown ass adults in their fifties carry around a
> stuffed animal in their pocket for emotional support? Serious question.

I find his recent denial of his criminal record to be one of the best
examples of his lack of emotional/mental stability.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> He then compounded the obvious lack of knowledge re the lubrication by
> doing an SC

He shoved your own contradictory statements in your face? Or did he
point out how you whined about it in a "feeble / pathetic" to 'make it
all go away'?

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:47:49 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<ur59fl$38pft$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> Some try to use 'psychology', usually by 'table
> turning' and/or 'shining the light elsewhere'.

What can you do to stop yourself?

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:50:17 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<ur59k9$38pft$2...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

You twist on the rare occasion you quote. Stop lying and trolling.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> He was fine... you trolled and attacked.

I posted Tim's words, his contradictory words.

If he's so "fine", why is he running from what he wrote?

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:50:17 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><ur59k9$38pft$2...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2024-02-21, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> He then compounded the obvious lack of knowledge re the lubrication by
>>> doing an SC
>>
>> He shoved your own contradictory statements in your face? Or did he
>> point out how you whined about it in a "feeble / pathetic" to 'make it
>> all go away'?
>
> You twist on the rare occasion you quote.

I quoted Tim and he whined. You do it every day of your life and have
for decades. The archive shows what it shows.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:05:16 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<ur5agc$38pft$5...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> He was fine... you trolled and attacked.
>
> I posted Tim's words, his contradictory words.

Unlikely. You lie nonstop and twist.

>
> If he's so "fine", why is he running from what he wrote?

Why can't you stop begging for attention? Why not post these words you want me
to pretend you are right about?

You are trolling. Period.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:07:51 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<ur5al7$38pft$6...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

You say you quoted him but cannot now. I do not believe you are doing anything
other than your normal trolling and lying and hair splitting and other such
nonsense. You love your pissing contests. And you ignore your own poor
behavior. You act 100% worse than your victims... then whine when you are not
taken seriously.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:05:16 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><ur5agc$38pft$5...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> He was fine... you trolled and attacked.
>>
>> I posted Tim's words, his contradictory words.
>
> Unlikely.

Nope, it's a fact... and you are well aware of it, as made clear by your
attempts to 'shine the light elsewhere'.

>> If he's so "fine", why is he running from what he wrote?
>
> Why can't you

Case in point... AGAIN!

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:15:57 AM MST, "Snit" wrote
<hdqBN.410223$7sbb....@fx16.iad>:

> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:05:16 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
> <ur5agc$38pft$5...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> He was fine... you trolled and attacked.
>>
>> I posted Tim's words, his contradictory words.
>
> Unlikely. You lie nonstop and twist.
>
>>
>> If he's so "fine", why is he running from what he wrote?
>
> Why can't you stop begging for attention? Why not post these words you want me
> to pretend you are right about?
>
> You are trolling. Period.

You offered no quote and just begged for more attention.

It is what you do.

You prove me right time and time again.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:07:51 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><ur5al7$38pft$6...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:50:17 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>> <ur59k9$38pft$2...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-02-21, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> He then compounded the obvious lack of knowledge re the lubrication by
>>>>> doing an SC
>>>>
>>>> He shoved your own contradictory statements in your face? Or did he
>>>> point out how you whined about it in a "feeble / pathetic" to 'make it
>>>> all go away'?
>>>
>>> You twist on the rare occasion you quote.
>>
>> I quoted Tim and he whined. You do it every day of your life and have
>> for decades. The archive shows what it shows.
>
> You say you quoted him but cannot now.

No need, he knows what he wrote, so you do, so does anyone who watched
me quote him.

Quit trying to 'support' him, you can't, he wrote what he wrote.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:17:50 AM MST, "Snit" wrote
<2fqBN.414701$xHn7....@fx14.iad>:

> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:07:51 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
> <ur5al7$38pft$6...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:50:17 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>> <ur59k9$38pft$2...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-02-21, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> He then compounded the obvious lack of knowledge re the lubrication by
>>>>> doing an SC
>>>>
>>>> He shoved your own contradictory statements in your face? Or did he
>>>> point out how you whined about it in a "feeble / pathetic" to 'make it
>>>> all go away'?
>>>
>>> You twist on the rare occasion you quote.
>>
>> I quoted Tim and he whined. You do it every day of your life and have
>> for decades. The archive shows what it shows.
>
> You say you quoted him but cannot now. I do not believe you are doing anything
> other than your normal trolling and lying and hair splitting and other such
> nonsense. You love your pissing contests. And you ignore your own poor
> behavior. You act 100% worse than your victims... then whine when you are not
> taken seriously.

Carroll ran. Again. As he does.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:21:50 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<ur5bfe$397ck$2...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:07:51 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <ur5al7$38pft$6...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:50:17 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>> <ur59k9$38pft$2...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-02-21, T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> He then compounded the obvious lack of knowledge re the lubrication by
>>>>>> doing an SC
>>>>>
>>>>> He shoved your own contradictory statements in your face? Or did he
>>>>> point out how you whined about it in a "feeble / pathetic" to 'make it
>>>>> all go away'?
>>>>
>>>> You twist on the rare occasion you quote.
>>>
>>> I quoted Tim and he whined. You do it every day of your life and have
>>> for decades. The archive shows what it shows.
>>

>> You say you quoted him but cannot now. I do not believe you are doing anything
>> other than your normal trolling and lying and hair splitting and other such
>> nonsense. You love your pissing contests. And you ignore your own poor
>> behavior. You act 100% worse than your victims... then whine when you are not
>> taken seriously.

> No need, he knows what he wrote, so you do, so does anyone who watched
> me quote him.
>
> Quit trying to 'support' him, you can't, he wrote what he wrote.

Support him from what? Your mindless vague attacks where you have no quotes
and expect others to care about your petty squabbles as much as you do. Your
mindless pissing contests where you nit pick and attack matter to you... but
to others we do not care. We know you went into your crap about replacing
character nonsense.

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:iodBN.400441$7sbb....@fx16.iad
Wed, 21 Feb 2024 02:40:14 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On Feb 20, 2024 at 7:26:14鈂u20ac疨M MST, "Gremlin" wrote

> <XnsB11EDA...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>
>> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:Dy7BN.251052$yEgf....@fx09.iad
>> Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:39 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>

>>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:41芒\u20ac呕PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote

>>> <XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>>
>>>> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:uqpq3o$aqfc$1...@dont-email.me Sat, 17
>>>> Feb 2024 08:17:59 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 17/02/2024 07:45, Gremlin wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Tim!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi <whateveryourrealnameis>!
>>>>
>>>> It's Dustin. My real name isn't a secret, Tim...
>>>
>>> But you did blur out your house on Google Maps.
>
> You ignored this to talk about someone who is not relevant.

No, actually, I didn't ignore anything. I responded in full detail calling
out yet another lie you've written about me.

"Taking Davids word for anything is just as stupid as taking yours for
anything at face value, snit. The home owner has to be the one to contact
the great and powerful google, according to the process. That I had to
lookup, because, I've never done it before? so I didn't even know how you'd
go about doing it in the first place. And, I am not that individual. Not for
that address, anyway. :)"

Is what I wrote.

>> In the specific context that I've been using the word, Snit, you and I
>> are not peers;
>
> Your ego is not going to be matched by many.

What I've been writing about peers has nothing to do with ego snit. It's
about skillsets and knowledge and only that.

>> But Apd, Ftr, and myself, are. I know, that irks you to no end;
>
> This is a fine example of your projection.

I'm not the one who has an established and well documented track record of
doing that, snit. Nice try though.

>> I really don't understand how either of you actually taught others,
>> though.
>
> Just one of your many weaknesses -- but glad you can admit to it.

Talk about an ego.. and some arrogance thrown in for good measure.
Evidently, your self awareness is lacking, snit.

>> Tim mentioned ripping cds into mp3s I think? Would be an interesting
>> discussion.
>
> It is easy to do.

Sure, if you want napster quality results. Some are fine with that, some
prefer higher quality. If you're going to take the time to do it, why not do
a good job?

>> You've both been around a long time, there's no way neither of you know
>> anything about what I shared.
>
> You have shared how big your ego is.

Nope. Nothing I've been writing has fuckall to do with an ego, snit. I've
told you, many times, to hire a reading tutor.



--
I don't need no Dr. All I need...is my lawyer.

[Gremlin]

T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:ur46jn$3039e$1...@dont-email.me Wed, 21 Feb

2024 06:52:37 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> More accurately, in nearly every place I stated I *wasn't* a coding
> expert, far from.

Yet, you somehow think you're able to judge who is and who isn't an expert
with coding based on whether or not they write mostly configuration files
for your HA system? How does that work when using logic, exactly?

> WHF would I be asking about some .yaml scripting if I
> was? He really is fighting his own shadow on this.

No, I'm not. Like, SC, I have issues with some of what you write. It's
mostly due to the assumptions you make when you clearly aren't in a position
knowledgewise to be able to make them.

> And yup, A+ / CompTIA Certified Instructor (for 5 years), Novell
> Certified Instructor for 7 years and Microsoft Certified Trainer for 7
> years.

oh...I see. I'm sure snit will come after me for an nonsense ego remark, yet
again, but I assumed (my bad) that you had a bit more cert time under your
belt. It's news to me that none of them have hit the ten year mark yet.
Which makes this entire discussion that much worse, actually. I've got certs
and copyrights to legit software that have some considerable time on them
compared to yours here...FFS, My CompTIA one alone has nineteen years on
you. My Novell one oh god, I feel like trex old now...I've had several MS
certs along with awards over the years too. And they're old as frak compared
to yours too. Damn.

Shit tim, I thought I might have been conversing with a technician of some
sort. A real one, but, by the looks of things, you started getting certs a
bit late in the game. Tell me you just didn't bother to get the papers until
much later, but, you'd already gained the 1st hand experience for the most
part? Especially with the A+ one... yea?

> The main one was the Novell CHI. You had to sped two days at the UK
> Novel HQ in Bracknell where you were put though the IPE (Instructor
> Performance Evaluation). You were given a day to prep to present a
> module of their choice and then had to present it the next day in front
> of 'their people' and the other instructors-to-be. They played the role
> of delegates and asked unscripted questions and that was supposed to
> show the evaluators how you might respond under those conditions.

Sad. Confession time, I'd already learned how to gain admin rights to the HS
school Novell powered network, before I actually became certified with it.
I'd acquired a copy of the novell install floppies you see, and had a small
mock network at my grandmothers I was using to teach myself Novell. Our
vocational school network mostly had 386SX series machines with a NIC card
and no hard drive. They'd use an eeprom on the nic to boot into novell, when
given the proper login; Novell would then provide the Windows 3.11 for
networking boot image and bring the machine online. It was originally token
ring. I spent most of my 11th grade year converting the vocational schools
network over to cat5. Which required changing out a lot of cards and
reconfiguring their EEPROMS. I was able to get some older machines finally
out of service by replacing them with faster 486DX4100 and 120s. A few 1st
gen Pentiums as well. Now, I will actually boast a little; I won the BEAM
award twice in a row. <G> It was a regional test (I didn't know this the
first time around). 100 questions about computers and components related to
them. And you were timed. You were graded on accuracy and time. My
instructor submitted my test results and it was compared with over 30k of
others who also took the same test from many of the states that form the
upper northeast of the USA. They tricked me with the test and when they
presented the award.

I was one of the few students who didn't have to remain in 'data
processing'; I could roam the entire building as I pleased. I could even
come to your class and take you with me to go fix computers, if you wanted
to go. your instructor didn't even have a say in the matter. The first week
I was in school there, I got sent home with a note that I didn't open and
read before hand. When I got home, they used my full middle and last names;
so I assumed i was in some deep shit (I'd been trying to breech the login
from day 1, so I figured I got caught somehow) but that wasn't it. The note
said, I knew more than the instructor did; I could teach the fucking class,
I didn't have to attend anymore, He'd go ahead and give me an A for the
year. I opted to continue going, I was having fun; I was getting to do
something I loved to do! So I went around a 3 story tall vocational building
and fixed broken computers from all of the classes. Electrical/ automotive,
welding, hospice, didn't matter. They had contracts with actual computer
repair shops, but, I was usually quicker getting to the machine and having
it back online and working before the 'tech' got there to take a look at it.

I did sadly, embarrass the hell out of myself once there, though. My senior
year. I went to a classroom to get a video to play on their computer for
them. A girl I knew from the sending school was in that class. I'd known her
since 8th grade and she knew how much I liked her. <G> I got the video
player working, and told the instructor just hit play whenever you want, if
you have a problem, call data processing and i'll come back. but, it should
work fine for you. Well, the instructor wasn't okay with my efforts to
depart; she insisted I stick around and watch the video with her class.
Okay, fine. No biggie. Well, nobody told me in advance that the video was
going to be of a medical nature. As in, a prego girl, in stirrups, popping
out a kiddo. Needless to say, My happy ass eyes rolled back and I fell
backwards, chair and all, right to the fucking floor; in front of that girl
and everyone else in that class.

> It was both expensive and stressful and many of my fellow instructors to
> be were suffering stomach issues and were actually being sick etc.

My instructors/employers have paid for my certifications. And they'd all
tell you I didn't want the funds wasted on me, or made to get the certs.
It's worthless paper to me, good for company advertising and little else. My
opinion, especially after meeting so many various certified people in
several different trades has not changed for the most part. Some people
actually do know what the fuck they're doing; and others, are good at taking
and passing exams; but, somehow, don't actually know what the fuck they are
doing when you get them out in the field.

> My speciality with MS was MS Mail. I had actually installed MS Mail at
> work, with Dial-In for the techs who worked from home and we became the
> defacto mail hub (Dial-up at the time) for all the offices round the
> world with then also installing MS Mail themselves. ;-)

Super vulnerable package. And you had a lot of machines setup using it? You
likely contributed to some VX careers.

> I got a distinction when I took my Radio Amateur exam (G7ICW) and the
> Mrs was happy with a Pass (G7ICX). Being 8 months pregnant didn't make
> it easier for her. ;-)

WTF!? So, lemme get this straight. You're a licensed HAM? Dude, seriously,
why are you having any trouble, at all, with configuring HA?

> Out side of those and 3 'O' levels, the rest is just experience, 25
> years in IT support / Field Service as a Datacomms Tech, including
> building all the PC's and running all the network in a small office (35
> people) whilst running our product Help Desk.
>
> It was great because it gave me the opportunity to 'play' with all this
> kit and be paid well at the same time (I'd paid for my house when I was
> 40). ;-)

Hahaha. It's not the jobs I've enjoyed as much as it is the neat tools and
gear I've gotten to play with. :)

[Gremlin]

T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:ur44ij$2vom3$1...@dont-email.me Wed, 21 Feb

2024 06:17:52 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> And one we could still have, if you have calmed down?

I'm not the one drinking all of snits koolaid here and asking for more.

>> I'd be curious what software he used to rip,
>
> Typically Windows Media Player as I'm generally on a Windows PC but also
> iTunes (Win / Mac) and I'm sure I've done it on Linux (Audacity?).

Yikes...

>> and the specific
>> codec he selected to do the encoding.
>
> Pass, I would generally just leave it at the defaults, as long as it
> produced an .mp3.

I see.

>> Such little details do matter,
>
> To you probably, others less so.

I'm a co founder of a ripping group, so, yea. Some others, less so.

>> if your
>> goal is to get the most accurate sound as you possibly can from the mp3.
>
> It wasn't, because the 'best sound' also often means 'the biggest file
> size' and the early .mp3 players I was playing with weren't very big
> capacity.

Not necessarily. A properly encoded VBR is along the same size as a CBR at
192k sample rate. But the difference in sound is well worth the small
increase of size.

> Also, unless you are listening to the recordings in an anechoic chamber
> with the best quality reproduction equipment, perfection isn't really
> realistic goal for me.

So, napster grade works for you. Nothing wrong with that, I suppose.

>> The
>> original wav has to be mint for example. It's easy to think you got a
good
>> rip, only to have cracks, pops, missing audio, due to poor actual
ripping.
>
> GIGO.

Yes, but, when using the apps you did, you wouldn't know if they fucked up a
track during ripping; they could still pass it as clean even if they ran
into trouble. You'd have to manually sample your resulting wavs to check for
problems doing it that way. If you cared enough about the final result, that
is. It doesn't seem like you did though.

>> How did he deal with the audio cds which had been modified to prevent
>> ripping?
>
> Not sure I ever came across one? Pupped the CD in and they all just
> autoripped?

I see. So, did you just rip your own personal collection or something along
those lines?

>> Some had trouble playing at all in cdroms
>
> I certainly did with my first PC CDROM drive. It was an external
> Goldstar X1 speed using, came complete with a small ISA I/O card
> (probably SCSI)

Hmm. Possible, but, more likely it was a proprietary interface. Not quite
PATA (IDE), not quite true SCSI either.

> because a PC Mag I bought at the time came with a CD ROM stuck to the
> front that boasted 'Over 500MB of games and utilities' and I didn't know
> anyone with a CD drive on their PC at that time. I think the drive cost
> me over 200 GBP at the time!

Ahh. Some of my old freeware/shareware along with many other authors was
featured on those discs. Along with the simtel offerings, etc.

>> (they were multi session,
>> but done with invalid track data layout or a bad index table, intended to
>> fuck with, confuse, and eventually cause a computer desktop cdrom to
abort
>> with cd read failure).
>
> Certainly the case with most (all?) Playstation games and why I
> 'chipped' about 20 PS1's for people.

You could ISO playstation cds all day, ps1 anyway. they wouldn't prevent you
from reading them on a normal cdrom, the issue cropped up (which required
the chip you added) when it would see the difference in color of the disc.
they weren't colored black just because sony liked to stand out. It's how
the copy protection BS worked. But, you could! also start the ps1 (if it was
the top loader style) with an actual black authentic disc, and if you were
fast and got the timing right, once it booted past the self check, you could
swap it for a burned cdr and it would play your game without the chip mod.

You could also use one of the memory slots to chip it, if you didn't want to
go thru with actual chip install. And some later games would search for
versions of that chip and refuse to load if they detected it; so to prevent
that, I installed a very small toggle switch and a momentary contact one
that would let you take the chip out of circuit so the games wouldn't see
it. Then you could put it right back (it was timing) and your copied game
would play.

I've made alot of 'mad money' doing mods for people over the years. Side
work is what I call it. :) That and a shitload of recapping 'vintage'
stereos. I dunno if it's something in the air, but, I'm getting a lot of
work for vintage stereo systems. Most of the time, it's a cap issue; but I
check to see if any service bulletins were released. A specific yamaha had
one that suggested you changeout the factory 1/2watt resistors for 1watt
ones, but keep the same values. And I could see why looking at the boards.
<G> They were running a little, shall we say hot. Even with the spacing;
they didn't have any actually resting on the pcb, they still browned the
boards in spots. I didn't find any that were actually out of range or
seriously discolored, but while I was in that radio recapping it I went
ahead and changed the resistors out too. I thought I might have to changeout
one of the finals, but, after getting the safety interlock circuit running
again they were stable on the scope and not running hot; so I left them as
they were. I did verify the bias was still good - I'd expected to see a
little POT drift but was pleasantly surprised to see they held up well over
time and didn't drift noticably.

I told the ch that if they had an issue give me a call and I'd changeout the
finals for component cost, no labor fee; because I want to roll with the
ones it has and not change them if it's not necessary. Basically, I didn't
want to charge the ch for additional components I wasn't sure it needed.

>> What did he do with the Sony cds, if he ripped any,
>> that actually had a windows friendly (fucking rootkit!) on them?
>
> Pass, I can't remember any of the brands, just put them in a ripped them?

No worries. Sony got in some shit over it. If you'd encountered one and had
autorun enabled, it was actually a multi session cd with a working data
track that had a nasty surprise for any Windows based computer. Wasn't very
kind to Apple machines either, they'd often have problems with the disc and
refuse to give it back. If the machine lacked a physical eject button, you'd
be tearing into the damn thing to recover the bastard. For Windows
computers, it ran malware. A real, actual rootkit. it also hijacked your
cdrom drivers; replacing them for it's own. Which not only prevented you
from ripping their cds going forward, you wouldn't be ripping anyone elses
either. Because the damn thing was a real rootkit and made an effort to
protect every single file associated with it, including a hidden folder;
some of my peers in the VX scene took advantage of that and the sony rootkit
could be used to hide your viral code; and it would help to protect your
code from being seen, or deleted, by resident av; even if the av knew the
virus your computer had.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal>

> Not that I ever noticed. I do remember it was fun playing around with
> MSCDEX. ;-)

By playing around, are you talking about having to make sure its
configuration matched that of your controller card and cdrom itself? :) Did
you attempt to reserve as much conventional ram as you could by loading the
MSCDEX TSR into high memory? I only ask what might seem like a silly
question to you because i've serviced systems that for some reason, weren't
trying to save conventional ram and load it high. So, in some cases, they
couldn't run the rabbit game or doom1 that were popular at the time; not
enough conventional ram available. Even if you had 1meg or more, if you
didn't have enough of the first 640k left over, the additional ram you had
wasn't useful.

>> You've both been around a long time, there's no way neither of you know
>> anything about what I shared.
>

> About what, the above. Get over yerself mate.

WTF? Tim, you've clearly got me all wrong dude. Listening to snit isn't
going to help with that.

>> Not if you've been in tech of any sort for as
>> long as you want everyone here to think, anyway.
>
> You know with your pissing contest

It's not my pissing contest. It's all of your own doing. You took issue with
some things I've written about HA and how crayon level the configuration and
scripts are from a programming aspect. I really don't understand why that's
complex to you, but, datasheets for electronic components isn't? Now you've
told me that you're also a HAM, or you have been a HAM at some point, so,
I'm really having trouble understanding how you could become a licensed HAM
(You had to be able to read and understand the material, AND demonstrate
competency!) , be able to read and understand datasheets for components, but
- you can't figure out HA script/configuration files well enough to do what
you've asked Apd to do for you, on your own? Can you help me make that make
sense?

And you incorrectly chastised me as boasting when I wrote about it being
crayon level, you tried to sell the idea that typos make it not crayon level
somehow? I wasn't boasting. I was writing the truth. For anyone even halfway
decent in programming, the scripts/configuration files Apd has been writing
for you, are childsplay. It's crayon level 'code', if you even want to call
it 'code'.

I had no issues with you, and, wasn't aware you decided you had one with me
until I read your know it all comment that you weren't even adult enough to
address to me. No, instead, like a kid in grade school, you go and talk
about me like that to someone who's well known as a dishonest as fuck,
usenet troll. And you want people to think I'm the one who started this bs?
Or that I'm the one with the problem here? Uhh, no, Tim.

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:NLoBN.377022$Wp_8....@fx17.iad
Wed, 21 Feb 2024 15:36:13 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On Feb 21, 2024 at 6:40:20â\u20acŻAM MST, "pothead" wrote
> <ur4ug4$35sm4$1...@dont-email.me>:

>
>> snit rip a CD?
>> I doubt that snit could even figure out how to play an audio CD.
>> He would insert it upside down and when it didn't work he would attempt
>> to return it as defective
>> to the place from where it was purchased.
>
> You two tech geniuses getting excited you might be able to rip a CD.
> LOL!

I've ripped thousands personally, to scene rip standards, snit. Tim and
yourself are fine with napster grade mp3s. I prefer to have the kinds that
require you to be an audiophile with excellent hearing to even know it's not
a wav or flac, but is actually a lossy mp3. And even then, with a double
blind test, you still might mistakenly choose the mp3 source as the
original; the quality is that good, snit. If done right. What you and Tim
have described is the end user way. It results in napster quality, garbage
mp3s. It's the shit that makes everyone assume all mp3s sound like shit. Go
snit! Be proud of enforcing that wrong theory because you don't know what
the fuck you're doing and opt for shit quality results.

Have no fear though, snit. You have completely conned Tim. Outright, He's
swallowing everything you write about me and SC without question. Evidently
he has something in common with the Lemmings video game, and, by in common,
I don't mean having played the game. :)

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:Vj7BN.307736$Ama9....@fx12.iad
Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:45:57 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:49槙u20ac烈M MST, "Gremlin" wrote
> <XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>
>> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:uqr83l$jqcn$2...@dont-email.me Sat, 17
>> Feb 2024 21:22:59 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>
>>> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing
>>> to support that in practice (and again, all I care about).
>>
>> I wasn't boasting. But, what you're having Apd do for you, because for
>> some reason, you're not capable of doing for yourself is crayon level.
>>
>> Especially when compared to actual code. Even a tiny example like below
>> shows how crayon level it is. No boasting, tim. Just a truth you aren't
>> comfortable with.
>>
>> segment code
>>
>> start:
>> mov ax,data
>> mov ds,ax
>> mov ax,stack
>> mov ss,ax
>> mov sp,stacktop
>>
>> mov dx,hello
>> mov ah,9
>> int 0x21
>>
>> mov ah,0x3c
>> mov cx,0
>> mov dx,files
>> int 0x21
>>
>> mov [filehnd],ax
>>
>> mov ah,0x40
>> mov bx, filehnd
>> mov cx,[msglength]
>> mov dx,hello
>> int 0x21
>>
>> mov ah,0x3e
>> mov bx,filehnd
>> int 0x21
>>
>> mov ax,0x4c00
>> int 0x21
>>
>> segment data
>>
>> hello: db 'Hi! Ray How did I get created Today?',13,10,'$'
>> files db 'ray.txt', 0
>> filehnd dw 1
>> msglength dw 38
>>
>>
>> segment stack stack
>> resb 64
>> stacktop:
>>
>>
>> See now Tim? actual Code above. the shit you're having Apd do for you,
>> ehh, it's mostly configuration files; very little programming involved,
>> and the little that is is script. it's fucking script dude; it's
>> holding your hand for you. See the difference now? Nothing to boast
>> about dude. What you need Apd to do for you, is crayon level, compared
>> to writing actual code of any real sort. It doesn't even need to be
>> assembler. It's still crayon level. Like it or not, it's reality. And
>> that's practically self documented assembler as far as asm goes. Nasm
>> syntax is awesome. It's more human readable friendly.
>
> What does have to do with his coding question? Nothing I can see.

That's actually my point. It's nothing either of you can see, because
neither of you understand the subject well enough to know what you're
looking at. The two of you don't even realize that the code I shared
*already* supports what I wrote about the crayon level coding. And neither
of you even realize that because you don't understand programming. The two
of you have been doing nothing more than talking shit about it, and
dismissing everyone who has responded that didn't agree with you. You've
both tried the 'well it's not relevant' excuse. Uhh, yes, it is. What Tim
can't seem to grasp to do on his own, is crayon level by comparison to
putting a home grown binary on the chip.

The work Tim is having Apd do for him, compared to *any of the code samples
shown above* is crayon level. That was the whole point in sharing them. A
point that continues to sail over your heads, without issue. And you think
others don't notice it. :)

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:I2cBN.367658$Wp_8....@fx17.iad
Wed, 21 Feb 2024 01:08:56 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> Carroll responded with attacks and lies. He cannot face who he is.

He responded with the truth.

<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>

A person named: Michael Glasser -- "Prescott Computer Guy" --
calls himself "Snit" in Usenet. He seems to be severely offended by anyone
who disagrees with the official government conspiracy theory about 9-11, and
he also greatly favors Mac computers and discourages people from using
Linux. Apparently in order to pick fights about these matters, he has
invaded COLA and posts more there than anyone else. Previously, he spent
years disrupting the newsgroup comp.sys.mac.advocacy.
Snit Michael Glasser exhibits extensive psychopathic behavior -- lying,
targeting, scapegoating, stalking, attacking, copious repetition, severe
irrationality, and always more lying. Some have called him "the biggest liar
in Usenet history", the most "universally hated" person in Usenet, "a liar
and a forger", etc.

Psychopath Snit Michael Glasser's Techniques For Lying

1. Lies by simply making things up.

2. Lies by omission.

3. Lies by intentionally misunderstanding or misinterpreting.

4. Lies by exaggeration.

5. Lies by quoting out of context.

6. Lies by misquoting.

7. Lies by ignoring refutations of his lies and other bad
behavior. This enables him to always claim that he "won"
the debate. It is the height of dishonesty.

8. Lies by introducing nonsense, e.g., "Marshmallow Men".

9. Lies by invalid generalization.

10. Lies by reversing implication, e.g., "Firetrucks are red,
this apple is red, therefore this apple is a firetruck."

11. Lies by "straw man" -- falsely attributing a bogus (often
exaggerated) claim to the person he's attacking, then refuting it.

12. Lies by claiming the person he's attacking "changed his story"
or "moved the goalposts" whenever the person clarified what he
said in order to refute Snit's previous lie about it.

13. Lies by claiming the person he's attacking "whines" or "babbles".
He never says that about his anti-Linux propaganda partners.

14. Lies by claiming the person he's attacking "ran away" if they
don't obey his commands and meet his demands exactly.

15. Lies by claiming that the person he's attacking is a member of
"the herd" and therefore is not capable of independent thought
and should not be listened to. Snit uses this attack only
against Linux users.

16. Lies by refusing to make common-sense connections among facts
that he's given. In that way he stalls or kills the discussion.
He ignores facts without explicitly refuting them, which allows
him to kill the discussion without looking bad.

17. Lies by introducing personal attacks and nonsense arguments
and claims into the discussion, in order to motivate the person
he's attacking to withdraw from the discussion. Glasser then
claims victory.

18. Lies by refusing to believe anything remembered by the person he's
attacking, and saying that it's irrelevant, when it isn't. Example:
"some recollection of what you think you remember from 10 years ago
is not on topic or of interest".

19. Lies by claiming that the person he's attacking is mentally ill.
He repeatedly offers to find the person help in overcoming his
alleged "illness". Snit Michael Glasser is a psychopath who
pretends to be a psychologist.

20. Lies by falsely attributing negative emotions to the person
he's attacking, when they haven't displayed any at all.

Examples: "shows rage", "got really, really angry. Furious",
"absolute *rage*", "freaks out", "lashes out", "lash out
with anger", "major hate-spewing", "really hates learning",
"pisses the herd off", "lash out with *extreme* hatred and anger",
"*major* attack mode", "humiliating", "getting pissed off",
"Such hatred and anger from you", "you are just freaking out.
Enraged. Completely unable to control yourself.", "freak out mode",
"You are on a hate-filled rampage", "Filled with rage and obvious
hatred", "hate-filled, enraged lies, attacks, insults, name calling",
"lash out with such fury", "you freaked out", "has you pissed off",
"spewing such hate-filled lies and attacks", "you are so upset
recently", "Amazing how little self control you have",
"hate-filled attack mode", "freak out and go into major attack
mode", "hate-filled, fear-filled attacks", "hate-and-fear-filled
attacks", "you run away spewing hate-filled attacks", "fearful",
"hate-filled dishonest attack rants", "Completely irrational,
hate-filled nonsense", "run and whine and attack...fear",
"get angry and lash out", "runs away crying", "hate-filled spree
of attacks", "freaked out even more! Holy cow!", "massive
hate-filled irrational rage", "irrational hate filled attacks",
"hatred and feelings of persecution", "enraged... unable to focus
or think. He is in a massive hate-filled irrational rage where all
he can do is lash out", "lashes out with hate-filled rants",
"You are enraged... beside yourself with anger. Unable to control
yourself", "obvious hatred", "You have a strong persecution complex",
"Holy cow! You lost it! You became enraged and increased your name
calling and accusations and insults. You just could not stop yourself
- you were out of control!", "This was too much for you. Wow. You
just completely lost it", "you just attack, attack, attack. ...
Wow... you really have lost it. I wish you the best!",
"threw a toddler tantrum", "cannot stop himself from posting
outrageous hate-filled attacks and insults and lies",
"clearly very frustrated", "you lash out with insults, attacks,
and your ever-present view of your persecution", "pretty much
belittles anyone", "special form of arrogance and conceit",
"put others down", "calm down", "amazingly bent out of shape",
"you are so filled with hatred and anger and the inescapable need
to call people names", "You are a very, very angry person!",
"so angry and out of control"

Tim is a fucking idiot to have assumed you were honest with him about
yourself, or anyone else! here
And he's not quite as honest as he's attempting to portray himself here as,
either. He, like you, made assumptions when the two of you without having
the necessary knowledge, tried to determine what you think I can/can't do.
The only bruised egos people have seen recently are from the two of you.

[Gremlin]

T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:ur38t8$2nhpo$1...@dont-email.me Tue, 20 Feb

2024 22:25:42 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On 20/02/2024 21:03, Snit wrote:
> <snip>
>

>>> Are you suggesting Tim's real "hobby" is getting "others" to do things
>>> for him? ;)
>>

>> You failed to help and now want to blame him.
>

> I really don't understand why both of them are still digging? I mean,

> how feeble / pathetic would one have to be to think I could force anyone
> to do anything they didn't want to on Usenet!

Has snit attached at your nose, or is it a collar around your neck, Tim? I'm
just curious.

> From his inferiority complex I'm guessing, tat or I've put his nose out
> of joint somehow?

Uhh. Inferiority complex? Dude, you've shown that is an issue with you
already.

> Quite, why would I, I was *asking* for help as I can do no more than that?

Asking for help is one thing, sure. But, that's not what you've been doing.
Apd has pretty much been doing it all for you; you aren't even trying to
learn how to do it for yourself.

> And the irony was that from my very post I STATED just how little I knew
> about coding! It's like the penny has finally dropped with them!

Which is why, for us, and several others, it makes little sense that you
think you're able to determine who can/can't actually help you with HA. You
don't know enough about the subject matter to be able to make any
determinations. FFS, you completedly missed what FTR replied to you with on
the subject. Writing my own, home grown binary directly to the chip on the
board should (if you knew anything about the subject) have made it very
clear for you that I could assist you with the script/configuration work APd
has been doing for you. They've both told you I'm perfectly capable of doing
the crayon level work you've requested. And, they've explained why I called
it crayon level, and have agreed, that it is for the most part. Very little
is actual programming of any kind. Most of it is actually configuration
text. You took that personally, along with my comment about being able to
roll my own. for some reason, you have an issue with that. And I think the
issue you have is because you can't do it, under any conditions, on your
own, because you lack the ability to program. An ability you could acquire;
stop with the bullshit excuses; you have a HAM license, you have various
instructor certs, you do have some electronics knowledge at the component
level; atleast enough to get by for FFS, just going by what you've talked
with me about.

As for the comment that a single person can't do what hundreds of others can
when it comes to writing code, etc, but, that's not really true. There's a
lot of variables you have to take into consideration. There is still such a
thing as solo contract gig programming.

> I am *always* honest.

Heh. Maybe you are, maybe you aren't. It's been my experience that those who
claim to be, often aren't. Snit is a perfect example of that.

> The stupid thing is, Dustin and I seem to have quite a lot in common.
> One of the biggest things we don't seem to share is our levels of
> mindful / self awareness, ego and proportion?

No. One of us hasn't been drinking snits koolaid. One of us knows what the
little pissant is about.

As far as your bar invite, you do understand that I've also been what some
call a 'rough neck' for the last fifteen or so years - along with several
years of private one on one instructor time to learn mixed martial arts? On
the rare occasion I've had to have a discussion like you suggest on the
jobsite, well, let's just say that this little sparky has put some
older/larger grown ass men in the back of an ambulance for a ride to the
emergency room. As with your assumptions concerning my ability to write
software, you'd be making another, bad assumption- assuming you could put
your paws on me and do whatever you pleased. You'd learn a very hard lesson
about assuming things about people you don't know, Tim. A painful one in
that case.

We probably shouldn't ever meet in person. No doubt you'd try to backup what
you wrote, and you'd leave me no choice but to seriously fucking hurt you or
worse, as a result, over nothing. I'm one person that irl, in person, that
sort of shit talking and efforts to back it up on your part won't end well
for you. Sorry, but, I don't play when it comes to that shit. I take it very
seriously.

[Snit]

On Feb 20, 2024 at 6:08:56 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
<I2cBN.367658$Wp_8....@fx17.iad>:

> On Feb 20, 2024 at 2:53:56 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
> <Ub9BN.400431$7sbb....@fx16.iad>:
>
>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 2:47:38 PM MST, "T i m" wrote
>> <ur36lt$2n35q$1...@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> On 20/02/2024 20:51, Snit wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> Why is he still replying to me?
>>>>
>>>> He wants to convince people that his utter lack of examples of relevant code
>>>> was somehow more than Carroll's actual examples, all while ignoring that Apd
>>>> is the one who offered the only truly valuable support.
>>>
>>> But where does that get him? To me he's just howling at the moon?
>>
>> He likes the sound of his (virtual) voice. And he does it to please Carroll.
>>
>>>>> I *honestly* have opened up his last little bursts of tantrums, skimmed
>>>>> the first few words, felt sorry for him and closed it.
>>>>
>>>> A wise response.
>>>
>>> It's sad in a way that he feels sufficiently affected by little me to
>>> put so much effort into trying to prove I don't know what? That he knows
>>> how to code better than me? That would hardly be any sort of boast!
>>
>> I describe myself as a "shitty scripter". He and Carroll spend massive amounts
>> of time trying to prove they are better than that. What is sad is how they
>> have failed in some areas. I admit I rub their nose in it sometimes when they
>> attack.

>
> Carroll responded with attacks and lies. He cannot face who he is.

Then Gremlin responded with one of his tantrums.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:17:29 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11F87...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:Vj7BN.307736$Ama9....@fx12.iad
> Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:45:57 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>

>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:49â\u20acŻPM MST, "Gremlin" wrote

Your point is you cannot stay on topic... and offered nothing on topic. LOL!
OK.

> It's nothing either of you can see,

We do not care one whit about your off topic nonsense.

> because
> neither of you understand the subject well enough

The subject was his question. You admit your comments are off topic.

> to know what you're
> looking at. The two of you don't even realize that the code I shared
> *already* supports what I wrote about the crayon level coding.

Ah, you wanted to brag you could do something similar, not actually focus. Got
it. More of your nonsense.

> And neither
> of you even realize that because you don't understand programming.

Did either of us even look at your off topic crap?

> The two
> of you have been doing nothing more than talking shit about it, and
> dismissing everyone who has responded that didn't agree with you.

I have not looked at or talked about your off topic crap. Why would anyone
care about your pissing contests?

> You've
> both tried the 'well it's not relevant' excuse.

You just admitted it is not relevant.

> Uhh, yes, it is. What Tim
> can't seem to grasp to do on his own, is crayon level by comparison to
> putting a home grown binary on the chip.

Why not help Tim. Apd was able to. Even Carroll showed some capability...
though he wanted to troll instead. You and I showed nothing to help him.

>
> The work Tim is having Apd do for him, compared to *any of the code samples
> shown above* is crayon level.

Why cares? Seriously, your code is not relevant in any way.

> That was the whole point in sharing them.

You actively avoided the topic and showed no ability to help.

> A
> point that continues to sail over your heads, without issue. And you think
> others don't notice it. :)

We get you care about your pissing contest and lack of focus. That is a YOU
issue.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:15:57 AM MST, "Snit" wrote
><hdqBN.410223$7sbb....@fx16.iad>:
>
>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:05:16 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <ur5agc$38pft$5...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> He was fine... you trolled and attacked.
>>>
>>> I posted Tim's words, his contradictory words.
>>
>> Unlikely. You lie nonstop and twist.
>>
>>>
>>> If he's so "fine", why is he running from what he wrote?
>>
>> Why can't you stop begging for attention? Why not post these words you want me
>> to pretend you are right about?
>>
>> You are trolling. Period.
>
> You offered no quote

Stop lying, I've quoted Tim's odd statements multiple times, here's
another:

"Of course, I was equally happy with SC's reply where he said he could
help but didn't want to (then changed that to 'not having the time to'
then 'I have my own life to lead ...')?" - Tim

I changed nothing, the overly entitled Tim assumed that, because I could
help him, I *should* help him.

FACT: Tim *knew* how much work it'd be, which is why he kept trying to
get someone to load up the software.

It didn't occur to him, or he just doesn't care, that I don't have the
time to 'help' him the way he wants to be 'helped'.

[Steve Carroll]

From whatever goofy thing you have in your goofy mind. He's written what
he has and there's not a med in your cabinet that can change it.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:17:29 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11F87...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:NLoBN.377022$Wp_8....@fx17.iad
> Wed, 21 Feb 2024 15:36:13 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 6:40:20â\u20acŻAM MST, "pothead" wrote
>> <ur4ug4$35sm4$1...@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> snit rip a CD?
>>> I doubt that snit could even figure out how to play an audio CD.
>>> He would insert it upside down and when it didn't work he would attempt
>>> to return it as defective
>>> to the place from where it was purchased.
>>
>> You two tech geniuses getting excited you might be able to rip a CD.
>> LOL!
>
> I've ripped thousands personally,

Yet here you are pretending it is difficult. It is funny to see you go back
and forth.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:17:28 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11F87...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:ur44ij$2vom3$1...@dont-email.me Wed, 21 Feb
> 2024 06:17:52 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>> And one we could still have, if you have calmed down?
>
> I'm not the one drinking all of snits koolaid here and asking for more.

You did not answer: have you calmed down?

>
>>> I'd be curious what software he used to rip,
>>
>> Typically Windows Media Player as I'm generally on a Windows PC but also
>> iTunes (Win / Mac) and I'm sure I've done it on Linux (Audacity?).
>
> Yikes...

Why were you pretending ripping to MP3 is so hard?

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:17:27 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11F87...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:ur46jn$3039e$1...@dont-email.me Wed, 21 Feb
> 2024 06:52:37 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>> More accurately, in nearly every place I stated I *wasn't* a coding
>> expert, far from.
>
> Yet, you somehow think you're able to judge who is and who isn't an expert
> with coding based on whether or not they write mostly configuration files
> for your HA system? How does that work when using logic, exactly?

Key word: SHOW.

Your reading comprehension is poor.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:17:27 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11F87...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:iodBN.400441$7sbb....@fx16.iad
> Wed, 21 Feb 2024 02:40:14 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>

>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 7:26:14โ\u20acฏPM MST, "Gremlin" wrote

>> <XnsB11EDA...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>
>>> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:Dy7BN.251052$yEgf....@fx09.iad
>>> Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:39 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>

>>>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:41รข\u20acลปPM MST, "Gremlin" wrote

>>>> <XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>>>
>>>>> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:uqpq3o$aqfc$1...@dont-email.me Sat, 17
>>>>> Feb 2024 08:17:59 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/02/2024 07:45, Gremlin wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Tim!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi <whateveryourrealnameis>!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's Dustin. My real name isn't a secret, Tim...
>>>>
>>>> But you did blur out your house on Google Maps.
>>
>> You ignored this to talk about someone who is not relevant.
>
> No,

Quote what you said about it. Not lies NOT about it. About your blurring of
the house.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:17:30 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB11F87...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:ur38t8$2nhpo$1...@dont-email.me Tue, 20 Feb
> 2024 22:25:42 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>> On 20/02/2024 21:03, Snit wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> Are you suggesting Tim's real "hobby" is getting "others" to do things
>>>> for him? ;)
>>>
>>> You failed to help and now want to blame him.
>>
>> I really don't understand why both of them are still digging? I mean,
>> how feeble / pathetic would one have to be to think I could force anyone
>> to do anything they didn't want to on Usenet!
>
> Has snit attached at your nose, or is it a collar around your neck, Tim? I'm
> just curious.

He and I are not like you and Carroll.

>
>> From his inferiority complex I'm guessing, tat or I've put his nose out
>> of joint somehow?
>
> Uhh. Inferiority complex? Dude, you've shown that is an issue with you
> already.

You show it nonstop.

>
>> Quite, why would I, I was *asking* for help as I can do no more than that?
>
> Asking for help is one thing, sure. But, that's not what you've been doing.
> Apd has pretty much been doing it all for you; you aren't even trying to
> learn how to do it for yourself.

Apd helped. You and I did not. Carroll showed he could but then opted to
troll.

>
>> And the irony was that from my very post I STATED just how little I knew
>> about coding! It's like the penny has finally dropped with them!
>
> Which is why, for us, and several others, it makes little sense that you
> think you're able to determine who can/can't actually help you with HA.

You tried that idiocy before. You failed to help. Apd did help. Carroll showed
he could but opted to troll instead.

It is not complex.

You have crap social skills and pretend you can judge those... how are you not
guilty of your own attacks?

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:46:42 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<ur5geh$3a8g0$2...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

>> Support him from what? Your mindless vague attacks where you have no quotes
>> and expect others to care about your petty squabbles as much as you do. Your
>> mindless pissing contests where you nit pick and attack matter to you... but
>> to others we do not care. We know you went into your crap about replacing
>> character nonsense.

You ignored this to troll.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:41:09 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<ur5g45$3a8g0$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:15:57 AM MST, "Snit" wrote
>> <hdqBN.410223$7sbb....@fx16.iad>:
>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:05:16 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>> <ur5agc$38pft$5...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> He was fine... you trolled and attacked.
>>>>
>>>> I posted Tim's words, his contradictory words.
>>>
>>> Unlikely. You lie nonstop and twist.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If he's so "fine", why is he running from what he wrote?
>>>
>>> Why can't you stop begging for attention? Why not post these words you want me
>>> to pretend you are right about?
>>>
>>> You are trolling. Period.
>>
>>

>> You offered no quote and just begged for more attention.

>> It is what you do.

>> You prove me right time and time again.

> I've quoted Tim's odd statements multiple times, here's
> another:
>
> "Of course, I was equally happy with SC's reply where he said he could
> help but didn't want to (then changed that to 'not having the time to'
> then 'I have my own life to lead ...')?" - Tim

I did not see those specific quotes but I saw your trolling nonsense. The
idiotic "replace characters" or whatever. Just trolling crap.

> I changed nothing, the overly entitled Tim assumed that, because I could
> help him, I *should* help him.

You pretended you were helping but instead made it about you and your poor
behavior.

>
> FACT: Tim *knew* how much work it'd be, which is why he kept trying to
> get someone to load up the software.

He asked for help. Apd helped him. You showed you could but opted to troll.
Gremlin and I offered no help.

Nothing complex here.

>
> It didn't occur to him, or he just doesn't care, that I don't have the
> time to 'help' him the way he wants to be 'helped'.

I did not help. He had no issue with that. You and Gremlin both let your ego
and your need to make things about you become the only topics you would
discuss.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:17:27 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
><XnsB11F87...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>
>> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:ur46jn$3039e$1...@dont-email.me Wed, 21 Feb
>> 2024 06:52:37 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>
>>> More accurately, in nearly every place I stated I *wasn't* a coding
>>> expert, far from.
>>
>> Yet, you somehow think you're able to judge who is and who isn't an expert
>> with coding based on whether or not they write mostly configuration files
>> for your HA system? How does that work when using logic, exactly?
>
> Key word: SHOW.

No, Goofy, the key word is "coding", as in "Real coding skill".

> Your reading comprehension is poor.

Projected the hypocritical idiot who believes 'showing' *more* code
means more "skill" has been 'shown'.

The same idiot once wrote:

"Carroll shows far more coding skills than you do". - Judge Gasser

And that idiocy 'morphed' into this lie, where the word "skills" has
been totally abandoned because the idiot thought no one would notice:

"No skills is needed to understand you SHOW more code than Gremlin does
(and it is not like it is close so you show some mediocre code and he
shows some great code... in past comments I am sure I left that crack
open for you to exploit with your trolling)." - Liar Glasser

Stop pretending you can read/think, it's goofy.

[Snit]

On Feb 21, 2024 at 12:01:56 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<ur5hb4$3ak81$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:17:27 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>> <XnsB11F87...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>
>>> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:ur46jn$3039e$1...@dont-email.me Wed, 21 Feb
>>> 2024 06:52:37 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>
>>>> More accurately, in nearly every place I stated I *wasn't* a coding
>>>> expert, far from.
>>>
>>> Yet, you somehow think you're able to judge who is and who isn't an expert
>>> with coding based on whether or not they write mostly configuration files
>>> for your HA system? How does that work when using logic, exactly?
>>
>> Key word: SHOW.
>
> No

Yes. This is about what people have shown. Once again you showed some -- but
opted to troll -- and Gremlin and I showed none. Apd, of course, is the star
of the show.

But you and Gremlin want to make this about you and your challenges... not
about the tech question.

And you both demand repetition and refuse to move forward. Gremlin is even
showing irrelevant code and pretending people owe him looking at it. All abut
him. Just stupid.

> "Carroll shows far more coding skills than you do".

This is another example where you have. You showed RELEVANT code. Gremlin did
not. Nor did I.

Apd îs the star -- but you want to make this about you and your shill.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:41:09 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><ur5g45$3a8g0$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:15:57 AM MST, "Snit" wrote
>>> <hdqBN.410223$7sbb....@fx16.iad>:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:05:16 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>> <ur5agc$38pft$5...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> He was fine... you trolled and attacked.
>>>>>

>>>>> If he's so "fine", why is he running from what he wrote?
>>>>
>>>> Why can't you stop begging for attention?

His running isn't about me.

>>> You offered no quote and just begged for more attention.
>
>>> It is what you do.
>
>>> You prove me right time and time again.
>
>> I've quoted Tim's odd statements multiple times, here's
>> another:
>>
>> "Of course, I was equally happy with SC's reply where he said he could
>> help but didn't want to (then changed that to 'not having the time to'
>> then 'I have my own life to lead ...')?" - Tim
>
> I did not see those specific quotes

That's your problem.

>> I changed nothing, the overly entitled Tim assumed that, because I could
>> help him, I *should* help him.
>
> You pretended you were helping

I pretended nothing.

FACT: I even wrote something that'd make it easier for him to do what he
kept falsely claiming he couldn't do and Apd suggested he try it. That
he didn't need to use it is proof he didn't need it... and it turns out
that was only the 'tip of the iceberg' regarding how forthcoming Tim
*wasn't*.

>> FACT: Tim *knew* how much work it'd be, which is why he kept trying to
>> get someone to load up the software.
>
> He asked for help.

He asked people to load up software environments in order to get that
'help', environments where the docs were lacking (and Tim knew that,
too).

Now you can answer why Tim should've expected me to help him.

> Apd helped him. You showed you could but opted to troll.

Where "troll" was to point out how Tim wasn't forthcoming, you know, the
reality you and he are trying to pretend doesn't exist.

>> It didn't occur to him, or he just doesn't care, that I don't have the
>> time to 'help' him the way he wants to be 'helped'.
>
> I did not help. He had no issue with that.

I doubt Tim believed you could help but feel free to prove otherwise.

Do I need to go get some of the 'nice' things he'd written about you to
"support" my suggestion here?

[Steve Carroll]

On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2024 at 12:01:56 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><ur5hb4$3ak81$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:17:27 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>>> <XnsB11F87...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>>
>>>> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:ur46jn$3039e$1...@dont-email.me Wed, 21 Feb
>>>> 2024 06:52:37 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> More accurately, in nearly every place I stated I *wasn't* a coding
>>>>> expert, far from.
>>>>
>>>> Yet, you somehow think you're able to judge who is and who isn't an expert
>>>> with coding based on whether or not they write mostly configuration files
>>>> for your HA system? How does that work when using logic, exactly?
>>>
>>> Key word: SHOW.
>>
>> No
>
> Yes.

"Subject: Re: P: Tim - Real coding skill"

No.

> This is about what people have shown.

This is about idiot(s) who erroneously believe they possess the ability
to 'judge' "what people have shown" WRT "coding skills".

>> The same idiot once wrote:
>>

>> "Carroll shows far more coding skills than you do".
>
> This is another example where you have

... pointed out that you have no ability to 'judge' what you tried to
judge.

>> And that idiocy 'morphed' into this lie, where the word "skills" has
>> been totally abandoned because the idiot thought no one would notice:
>>
>> "No skills is needed to understand you SHOW more code than Gremlin
>> does (and it is not like it is close so you show some mediocre code
>> and he shows some great code... in past comments I am sure I left
>> that crack open for you to exploit with your trolling)." - Liar
>> Glasser
>>
>> Stop pretending you can read/think, it's goofy.

[T i m]

On 21/02/2024 18:17, Gremlin wrote:
> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:ur46jn$3039e$1...@dont-email.me Wed, 21 Feb
> 2024 06:52:37 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>> More accurately, in nearly every place I stated I *wasn't* a coding
>> expert, far from.
>
> Yet, you somehow think you're able to judge who is and who isn't an expert
> with coding based on whether or not they write mostly configuration files
> for your HA system?

Nope, you read it all wrong.

> How does that work when using logic, exactly?

Probably just like I said it, if you can follow logic and not jump to
massive conclusions.

>
>
>> WHF would I be asking about some .yaml scripting if I
>> was? He really is fighting his own shadow on this.
>
> No, I'm not.

Oh yes you are.

> Like, SC,

No, not really. ;-)

> I have issues with some of what you write.

No shit Sherlock!

> It's
> mostly due to the assumptions you make when you clearly aren't in a position
> knowledgewise to be able to make them.

Is it now? THere is no way you could have picked up the shitty end of
the stick then? You are right and I am wrong, because you say so?

>
>> And yup, A+ / CompTIA Certified Instructor (for 5 years), Novell
>> Certified Instructor for 7 years and Microsoft Certified Trainer for 7
>> years.
>
> oh...I see. I'm sure snit will come after me for an nonsense ego remark, yet
> again, but I assumed (my bad) that you had a bit more cert time under your
> belt.

Yup, you know what assumptions make.

> It's news to me that none of them have hit the ten year mark yet.

What?

> Which makes this entire discussion that much worse, actually. I've got certs
> and copyrights to legit software that have some considerable time on them
> compared to yours here...FFS,

There you go, pissing all over yourself again!!!

Where did I do a Gremlin and say 'Yeah, and my Qualifications piss all
over yours you fucking ....' Answer, I didn't, I just stated fact and
*once again*, you flip out!

You *REALLY* do have some sort of inferiority complex don't you?

> My CompTIA one alone has nineteen years on
> you.

Well done you. Do you feel happy with piss all down one leg?

> My Novell one oh god, I feel like trex old now...I've had several MS
> certs along with awards over the years too. And they're old as frak compared
> to yours too. Damn.

And now you piss down the other leg as well!

>
> Shit tim, I thought I might have been conversing with a technician of some
> sort. A real one, but, by the looks of things, you started getting certs a
> bit late in the game.

And now you piss your pants?

> Tell me you just didn't bother to get the papers until
> much later, but, you'd already gained the 1st hand experience for the most
> part? Especially with the A+ one... yea?

What's the point telling you anything, you take it all the wrong way
(and then piss all over yourself).

>
>> The main one was the Novell CHI. You had to sped two days at the UK
>> Novel HQ in Bracknell where you were put though the IPE (Instructor
>> Performance Evaluation). You were given a day to prep to present a
>> module of their choice and then had to present it the next day in front
>> of 'their people' and the other instructors-to-be. They played the role
>> of delegates and asked unscripted questions and that was supposed to
>> show the evaluators how you might respond under those conditions.
>

<snip the rest unread as it looks like more of you pissing all over
yourself and it's way too sad>.

I thought I'd give you another chance .... but I don't want to get near
you all covered in piss.

CHeers, T i m

[Gremlin]

Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
news:ur5i83$3aqap$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Wed, 21 Feb 2024

19:17:23 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:41:09â\u20acŻAM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote

>><ur5g45$3a8g0$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:15:57â\u20acŻAM MST, "Snit" wrote
>>>> <hdqBN.410223$7sbb....@fx16.iad>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:05:16â\u20acŻAM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote

>>>>> <ur5agc$38pft$5...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-02-21, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He was fine... you trolled and attacked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If he's so "fine", why is he running from what he wrote?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why can't you stop begging for attention?
>
> His running isn't about me.

Tim has run just as quick from the motor discussion as soon as I started
getting more detailed. I don't think he expected me to understand what he
was writing about when he mentioned an LDR controller circuit. I would have
liked to have been a fly on the wall when he reviewed that video showing off
the same circuit he described, along with the problem in those circuits as
is. Which is why I suggested the use of an opamp. Did you see how fast he
wanted nothing more to do with the discussion?
I suspect the question as actually a mini test of my 'so called' electronics
knowledge. He probably thought I was bsing about that too.

Even though various people here who have interacted with me that have
backgrounds with electronics have all vouched for me. I've got some
electronics vids on my tiktok page too; but I must be faking it all or
something. Right? :)

Oh, that's not all. At first, he was cracking on me for motor knowledge. So,
I shared some. He proceeded to ride my ass about the way in which I oiled a
bearing in something that it's manufacturer expected I would toss in the
trash, not service. His response to that was where did the manufacturer
suggest I should do that. Umm, hello, dude, I'm not an end user; I'm a
service technician. Those 'keep the fuck out, I might burn or kill you if
you open me up' aren't for me, or people like me. Those are for people like
him, and snit for sure. He proceeds to claim electrical motors are complex,
almost a mystery and most don't know fuck all about how they function. Umm,
okay. So I ask about various controllers; I get crickets in response, even
to an easy one; PWM DC brushed motor control with an HBRIDGE. I asked a
common question, actually. What was the frequency his controller should be
running at; not only to eliminate the whining noise from the motor when the
controller is on, but isn't sending go instructions yet; it is sending
pulsed power, and if it's not at the right frequency, you will hear it, and
it can also damage the motor windings, because, again, it is getting pulses
but not enough to cause rotor unlock and rotation. it's 'idle' :)

He didn't even try responding. I also noticed a Snit like reading/reply
issue when I theorized about his window shades; He responded after my first
line and suggested I guess again; ignoring the rest of my comment where I
indicated one way it could have been done was with limit switches; much like
a rockola jukebox.

So, at that point, I noticed he was snit like if you didn't respond the way
he wanted.

> FACT: I even wrote something that'd make it easier for him to do what he
> kept falsely claiming he couldn't do and Apd suggested he try it. That
> he didn't need to use it is proof he didn't need it... and it turns out
> that was only the 'tip of the iceberg' regarding how forthcoming Tim
> *wasn't*.

Ayep. Tim knew full well how involved the project already is, and can easily
become if you don't really know what the fuck you're doing; as is the case
with him in so far as writing crayon level script with very little actual
programming involved. FFS, the damn thing is supposed to make it easier to
setup and config for those without serious programming knowledge. Now do you
see what can go wrong when you try to hand hold and don't explain how it
works? You get, a Tim! :)

> He asked people to load up software environments in order to get that
> 'help', environments where the docs were lacking (and Tim knew that,
> too).

And by help, he actually meant that he's going to tell you what he'd like
for it to do, and you are going to write all of the configuration to do it
for him. He's not going to put forth any real effort to do any of it on his
own. He's going to milk you for as much free time and effort as you're
willing to provide him. When he's exhausted you as an option, he'll move
onto another source to continue with the kind of help he's in search of. All
at no cost to him, of course. :) I actually respect the game in the way he's
playing it. It's a smart move. The only problem is that this newsgroup has
people who aren't all about doing all the fishing for you, we'd prefer to
teach you to fish so you can feed yourself, without us having to do it all
for you. Tim doesn't seem to do as well in those environments.

And I don't know why he suggested a bar interaction; it wouldn't go as he'd
hoped if he put his hands on me, or took a swing at me. He'd be repeating
American/British history; I just wouldn't have a musket when I did it. :)
Ballsy, and oh so stupid on his part. What the fuck does he think
resi/comm/industrial sparkies do all day while we're working? Fucking around
on the ground? Playing with our cell phones? Uhh, no. My happy ass is up on
a ladder or a skyjack routing 2alt or larger cabling. Sometimes, on a good
day, I get to run 12ga or 14ga, or do terminations or make up work. But
otherwise, I'm drilling lots of big ass holes with a 60volt Dewalt monster
that probably weighs a good 30lbs or so, over my head, all fucking day long.
then, I'm muscling large ass wire thru those holes, sometimes thru conduit,
90degree bends etc. I'm not what you'd call out of shape, and, I do have
some professional training in MMA; I know how to protect myself. He'd get
his ears beat up around his head so damn fast, the other patrons would stop
what they were doing to see what the fuck just happened and wanting to know
why their regular? was on the floor, stone cold lights out to the world
around him. A serious case of FAFO.

FFS, when I'm doing parking lot lights and having to deal with the older HID
versions, I'm pulling out a transformer than can weigh upto 40lbs or so, by
itself, with one hand as I climb back down the fucking ladder to put it on
the ground, without making a mess of the pavement or possibly damaging the
core. We strip them when we get them back to the shop - blown transformers
are money. Yea, come and put your fucking hands on me in a hostile manner
and see what happens to you and your hands.

He doesn't seem to comprehend what it means to be a rough neck. He'd learn,
though. That's one check his ass couldn't cover in person with me. I'm the
same online as I am in real life. There's no alter ego, there's just me.

> Now you can answer why Tim should've expected me to help him.

Good luck with an actual answer, from either of them.

>> Apd helped him. You showed you could but opted to troll.
>
> Where "troll" was to point out how Tim wasn't forthcoming, you know, the
> reality you and he are trying to pretend doesn't exist.

Which is funny; considering this is usenet. You'd think by now, they'd
understand how it works.

>>> It didn't occur to him, or he just doesn't care, that I don't have the
>>> time to 'help' him the way he wants to be 'helped'.
>>
>> I did not help. He had no issue with that.
>
> I doubt Tim believed you could help but feel free to prove otherwise.

:) We both know Snit couldn't help him. The question is, does Tim realize
it, and would he actually speak up? I mean, snit is like his best friend
here, other than Apd who's doing all the work for him.

> Do I need to go get some of the 'nice' things he'd written about you to
> "support" my suggestion here?

Tim won't want to read them. <G> He's practicing intentional ignorance.

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:3JrBN.88191$SyNd....@fx33.iad Wed,

21 Feb 2024 18:58:07 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> I did not help. He had no issue with that. You and Gremlin both let your
> ego and your need to make things about you become the only topics you
> would discuss.

Not true, Snit. I've made the decision not to provide Tim assistance,
because I believe in teaching you to fish, not doing it all for you. Tim is
lazy and I don't work well with lazy.

As far as my actual ability to help him. Well, this is from two others in
this newsgroup. Enjoy what they've written, Snit. I know I do. :)
Message-ID: <uq3rrj$28bd1$1...@apd.eternal-september.org>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=170854338400

It was Gremlin who said "crayon level" and some of it is. However,
some requires more thought. I'm not offended by anything Gremlin
or Tim has said.

**

Message-ID: <uq7mre$358ib$1...@apd.eternal-september.org>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=170854341300

> For the benefit of Tims knowledge update concerning me though, Would
> you let him know that I can also provide HA and ESP assistance, as
> you're doing for him?

You could know more about HA and ESPHome than I do, I don't know. I
know enough to get some values from HA in order to program the ESP
display which is most of what I'm doing. How's your C++? It's not as
if any advanced features of the language are being used. I expect
you'd have no problem with it.

> MID: <uq3qq4$27vhu$1...@dont-email.me>
>> Further, only Apd has actually demonstrated the DO have the skills I
>> lack so I'm yet to see you have any greater skills than me.
>
> He mistakenly thinks he and I are on the same page or something here,
> as well.

You might be with respect to some hardware. Obviously he's nowhere
near the level of you or me regarding programming, and has said it's
not his bag.

> Sorry to even ask you, but, he won't grow a pair and ask, just wants
> to make comments like that instead. Thanks in advance for making that
> clear, atleast, to him.

To be fair, he may not have seen any of your code so he wouldn't know
about your skill in that area. Maybe that's his way of asking,
considering the current vibe between you both.

**

Message-ID: <uqrbul$kird$1...@dont-email.me>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=170845404800
> SC has said he could help but chooses not to (so I have no idea if he could
> help or not (nor care etc)).

I read recently that the ESP32 boards can be programmed via JavaScript.
This leads me to believe that SC could adapt from the HTML DOM he has
demonstrated his adeptness with to the new objects being manipulated
here.

> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing to
> support that in practice (and again, all I care about).

I suppose he would think that, especially as he would likely know how
to flash a homegrown binary directly to the board's chip.

***


Now, Snit, why do you suppose the two of them wrote what they did about my
coding abilities and knowledge of the subject? Do you think I've snowed them
into believing it, without proving it at some point? Is that what you really
think took place, Snit? They've both also confirmed that I am Raid, and I
have done the things I told you I'd done, that I am also a former blackhat,
vxer. Known as Raid. You tend to dismiss them though when they bluntly
correct you or someone else and tell you or them how it actually is; as FTR
did above with Tim in response to my crayon level comment. He's right too,
it is crayon level. Apd even agrees for the most part, snit. My comment
stands, and i've more than proven I can back it up. Regardless of what you,
or, Tim, assumes.

You and Tim claim to use and follow logic, right? So, thinking logically;
why would they have written what they did? Could it be, because, oh, I
dunno, they actually have known me for a long time, and have seen some of
the code I've written in action? Could that have something to do with it?
Maybe it's the years worth of sometimes technical conversations we've had
that leads them to form those conclusions concerning me, and, my ability to
assist Tim with HA?

Do you know the difference yet, snit, between can't do something, and
'won't' do something? I had the software loaded on this machine to begin
assisting tim, so I wasn't flying completely blind with it. I opted not to
proceed any further, or even (until now) let anyone know I did what Apd did;
load some software up. if i hadn't of read the know it all comment, I
wouldn't have realized he already formed an opinion of me; I was going to be
dedicating hours of otherwise billable (as in making money) time to help the
guy out, but then, I noticed that post he wrote. Full Stop. The fuck. I'm
not going to spend hours of time with a shite set of instructions (and
that's putting it very nicely) as well as having to pull teeth from Tim to
get the information needed to help. Not when the dude has already formed an
opinion concerning me, and has opted to try and troll me with you, in this
newsgroup. Might have actually worked, if I was a n00b here as he first
assumed. He didn't know I've been here for years, and know most of the
regulars; I've known several of them for decades.

Besides, Apd was already beginning to assist; and like Apd, I know what
happens on such subjects if multiple people all try to offer their 'advice'.
It just turns into a shitshow. Like your repair thread was turning into with
David and others suggesting this or that, wasting your time essentially;
instead of just focusing on the important things, the tests I wanted you to
run that wasn't wasting your time and was actually providing
useful/productive information.

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:fFrBN.93250$GX69....@fx46.iad Wed,
21 Feb 2024 18:54:03 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:17:30â\u20acŻAM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
> <XnsB11F87...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

>
>> Has snit attached at your nose, or is it a collar around your neck,
>> Tim? I'm just curious.
>
> He and I are not like you and Carroll.

Nope, that's true. Neither of you are anything like any of the others who
post here. Most of the others who post here don't require another to hold
their hands, they're capable of doing their own fishing; they might require
guidance to know where the fish are, but they don't need us to string the
lines, or show them how to use a fishing rod. Or, do the fishing for them.

The fact is, you are kissing his ass, and he's giving you a solid reach
around for it.

>> Asking for help is one thing, sure. But, that's not what you've been
>> doing. Apd has pretty much been doing it all for you; you aren't even
>> trying to learn how to do it for yourself.
>
> Apd helped. You and I did not. Carroll showed he could but then opted to
> troll.

You couldn't. I can, SC can, Apd has. Apd had this to say about it, too:

Message-ID: <uq7mre$358ib$1...@apd.eternal-september.org>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=170854341300

> For the benefit of Tims knowledge update concerning me though, Would
> you let him know that I can also provide HA and ESP assistance, as
> you're doing for him?

You could know more about HA and ESPHome than I do, I don't know. I
know enough to get some values from HA in order to program the ESP
display which is most of what I'm doing. How's your C++? It's not as
if any advanced features of the language are being used. I expect
you'd have no problem with it.

> MID: <uq3qq4$27vhu$1...@dont-email.me>
>> Further, only Apd has actually demonstrated the DO have the skills I
>> lack so I'm yet to see you have any greater skills than me.
>
> He mistakenly thinks he and I are on the same page or something here,
> as well.

You might be with respect to some hardware. Obviously he's nowhere
near the level of you or me regarding programming, and has said it's
not his bag.

> Sorry to even ask you, but, he won't grow a pair and ask, just wants
> to make comments like that instead. Thanks in advance for making that
> clear, atleast, to him.

To be fair, he may not have seen any of your code so he wouldn't know
about your skill in that area. Maybe that's his way of asking,
considering the current vibe between you both.

***

Do you think Apd wrote all that about me from a knowledgeable point of view,
or was he just pulling it from his ass to 'defend' me as you often claim SC
or myself does for the other?

>>> And the irony was that from my very post I STATED just how little I
>>> knew about coding! It's like the penny has finally dropped with them!
>>
>> Which is why, for us, and several others, it makes little sense that
>> you think you're able to determine who can/can't actually help you with
>> HA.
>
> You tried that idiocy before.

Nothing idiocy about it.

> You failed to help.

I chose not to help, there's a difference.

> Apd did help.

And as you can see, he confirmed I could have as well. :)

> It is not complex.

Snit, don't bother. You didn't provide any help because you don't have the
technical abilities to do so. I chose not to help him, but, I do have the
technical knowledge required to help him. :)

> You have crap social skills

In some respects, Yes, I do. I have a very low tolerance for stupidity for
example. I'm bad for not letting stupid comments/remarks go. I might call
you out on it, when I shouldn't, in public in front of your friends. That's
what I meant by my social skills lacking snit. I'm not very good at the ass
kissing, or brown nosing, or 'keeping my mouth shut' when I know for an
absolute fact you are talking straight up bullshit. I'm not a team player in
that sense.

> and pretend you can judge those.

I'm not pretending anything.

[Gremlin]

Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>

news:ur59fl$38pft$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Wed, 21 Feb 2024
16:47:49 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On 2024-02-21, Gremlin <nob...@haph.org> wrote:
>> I haven't wasted any time searching for posts from him in other
>> newsgroups, so, I couldn't tell you.
>
> It was a joke (though, maybe it's not?).

I wasn't joking. :)

>> Apd seems fine with it, and it's probably because he has the time
>> (obviously), and is probably enjoying the mental stimulation that
>> remote assistance can offer.
>
> Apd likes puzzles and coding, I suspect this is sort of a 'combo pack'
> for him (seems the biggest part of the puzzle is in finding the f*cking
> documentation).

Yep! The docs are shite, it's always been shite though. Any aspect of
arduino, esp, etc, shite docs, on a good gay.

>> Downright to some of the same writing mannerisms and usage of english.
>
> I've noticed.

You don't find that strange? Even a little bit? I've been on usenet for
decades, IRC for even longer, BBSes too. I've met two people so far in my
entire life who write as they do, with those particular mannerisms.

> That's often the case and the way you know what kind of person they are
> is how they respond. Some try to use 'psychology', usually by 'table
> turning' and/or 'shining the light elsewhere'. As you seen, these kinds
> of 'tools' are also employed in an attempt to 'run' from other things
> such a person has posted, usually contradictory to what they'd written
> previously. Some seem to believe they can hide these things, which is
> bizarre as done in an archived text medium <shrug>.

Yep. As I said, Tim's issue with me seems to have started when I told him (I
wasn't bragging either) about being able to roll my own. I thought until
then, we were fine? That's my bad.

> I find his recent denial of his criminal record to be one of the best
> examples of his lack of emotional/mental stability.

That one was pretty good. I don't think it's a subject Tim wants to touch
though; because it shows without any possible misunderstanding that his new
bestie Snit is far from the honest and honorable person he wants people,
especially Tim, to think he is. :)

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:yArBN.393444$Wp_8....@fx17.iad
Wed, 21 Feb 2024 18:49:02 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:17:27â\u20acŻAM MST, "Gremlin" wrote

> <XnsB11F87...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>
>> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:ur46jn$3039e$1...@dont-email.me Wed, 21
Feb
>> 2024 06:52:37 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>
>>> More accurately, in nearly every place I stated I *wasn't* a coding
>>> expert, far from.
>>
>> Yet, you somehow think you're able to judge who is and who isn't an
expert
>> with coding based on whether or not they write mostly configuration
files
>> for your HA system? How does that work when using logic, exactly?
>
> Key word: SHOW.

No, doofus. The key word is code.

> Your reading comprehension is poor.

No, it's not.

Message-ID: <uq3rrj$28bd1$1...@apd.eternal-september.org>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=170854338400

It was Gremlin who said "crayon level" and some of it is. However,
some requires more thought. I'm not offended by anything Gremlin
or Tim has said.

**

Message-ID: <uq7mre$358ib$1...@apd.eternal-september.org>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=170854341300

> For the benefit of Tims knowledge update concerning me though, Would
> you let him know that I can also provide HA and ESP assistance, as
> you're doing for him?

You could know more about HA and ESPHome than I do, I don't know. I
know enough to get some values from HA in order to program the ESP
display which is most of what I'm doing. How's your C++? It's not as
if any advanced features of the language are being used. I expect
you'd have no problem with it.

> MID: <uq3qq4$27vhu$1...@dont-email.me>
>> Further, only Apd has actually demonstrated the DO have the skills I
>> lack so I'm yet to see you have any greater skills than me.
>
> He mistakenly thinks he and I are on the same page or something here,
> as well.

You might be with respect to some hardware. Obviously he's nowhere
near the level of you or me regarding programming, and has said it's
not his bag.

> Sorry to even ask you, but, he won't grow a pair and ask, just wants
> to make comments like that instead. Thanks in advance for making that
> clear, atleast, to him.

To be fair, he may not have seen any of your code so he wouldn't know
about your skill in that area. Maybe that's his way of asking,
considering the current vibe between you both.

**

Message-ID: <uqrbul$kird$1...@dont-email.me>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=170845404800
> SC has said he could help but chooses not to (so I have no idea if he
could
> help or not (nor care etc)).

I read recently that the ESP32 boards can be programmed via JavaScript.
This leads me to believe that SC could adapt from the HTML DOM he has
demonstrated his adeptness with to the new objects being manipulated
here.

> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing to
> support that in practice (and again, all I care about).

I suppose he would think that, especially as he would likely know how
to flash a homegrown binary directly to the board's chip.

***

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:_drBN.519228$p%Mb.2...@fx15.iad
Wed, 21 Feb 2024 18:24:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On Feb 21, 2024 at 11:17:29â\u20acŻAM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
> <XnsB11F87...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>

>> That's actually my point.
>
> Your point is you cannot stay on topic... and offered nothing on topic.
> LOL! OK.

The topic is real code, snit. I've remained on topic.

> We do not care one whit about your off topic nonsense.

Are you Tims official spokes person now?

>> because
>> neither of you understand the subject well enough
>
> The subject was his question. You admit your comments are off topic.

The subject is real code. My comments are completely on topic. please do not
put words in my mouth in the future. it's not something an honest and
honorable person should be doing.

>> You've
>> both tried the 'well it's not relevant' excuse.
>
> You just admitted it is not relevant.

Stop putting words in my mouth. It's crystal clear I've written nothing like
what you're claiming here, snit.

> Why not help Tim.

I don't like his attitude towards me.

> Apd was able to. Even Carroll showed some
> capability... though he wanted to troll instead. You and I showed
> nothing to help him.

I chose not to help. I do have the ability to do so, however. You do not.
There's a difference.

>>
>> The work Tim is having Apd do for him, compared to *any of the code
>> samples shown above* is crayon level.
>
> Why cares? Seriously, your code is not relevant in any way.

The code I shared is relevant, it's real code, an example of actual coding
skill. It's not something you or Tim seems to be able to understand, though.

>> That was the whole point in sharing them.
>
> You actively avoided the topic and showed no ability to help.

Nope. Here's what FTR and Apd have said about this concerning me:

> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing to
> support that in practice (and again, all I care about).

I suppose he would think that, especially as he would likely know how
to flash a homegrown binary directly to the board's chip.

***

Why do you suppose they've written what they did Snit?
Take your time as you try to formulate a reasonable response to my question.

>> A
>> point that continues to sail over your heads, without issue. And you
>> think others don't notice it. :)
>
> We get you care about your pissing contest and lack of focus. That is a
> YOU issue.

Who's "we"? There's no pissing contest here, snit. Tim and yourself bring
nothing to the table. You've both run your mouths about me, in error.

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:_SrBN.268589$yEgf....@fx09.iad

Wed, 21 Feb 2024 19:08:42 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> Yes. This is about what people have shown. Once again you showed some --
> but opted to troll -- and Gremlin and I showed none. Apd, of course, is
> the star of the show.

Apd is the Star right? Well, he had this to say about me in relation to this
subject:

Now, going by what Apd wrote about me, you know, the 'Star' here as you put
it; I can help Tim, I'm choose not to do so. You don't even have the ability
to help him. :) There's a huge difference between us there, Snit.

> But you and Gremlin want to make this about you and your challenges...
> not about the tech question.

Message-ID: <uqrbul$kird$1...@dont-email.me>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=170845404800
> SC has said he could help but chooses not to (so I have no idea if he could
> help or not (nor care etc)).

I read recently that the ESP32 boards can be programmed via JavaScript.
This leads me to believe that SC could adapt from the HTML DOM he has
demonstrated his adeptness with to the new objects being manipulated
here.

> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing to
> support that in practice (and again, all I care about).

I suppose he would think that, especially as he would likely know how
to flash a homegrown binary directly to the board's chip.

***

> And you both demand repetition and refuse to move forward. Gremlin is
> even showing irrelevant code and pretending people owe him looking at
> it. All abut him. Just stupid.
>
>> "Carroll shows far more coding skills than you do".
>
> This is another example where you have.

It's actually another example of you not knowing what the fuck you're even
writing about.

> Gremlin did not.

I chose not to. As you can see though, according to the Star himself, I can.

> Nor did I.

You can't. You don't even know where to begin.

> Apd îs the star -- but you want to make this about you and your shill.

Yep, He had this to say about me and this subject:

You and Tim need some new material. You're both pretty well sunk on this
one.

[Gremlin]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:3spBN.414699$xHn7....@fx14.iad
Wed, 21 Feb 2024 16:23:27 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On Feb 20, 2024 at 7:40:14鈂u20ac疨M MST, "Snit" wrote
> <iodBN.400441$7sbb....@fx16.iad>:
>
>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 7:26:14鈂u20ac疨M MST, "Gremlin" wrote

>> <XnsB11EDA...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>
>>> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> news:Dy7BN.251052$yEgf....@fx09.iad
>>> Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:39 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>

>>>> On Feb 20, 2024 at 12:20:41芒\u20ac呕PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote

>>>> <XnsB11E91...@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>>>
>>>>> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> news:uqpq3o$aqfc$1...@dont-email.me Sat,
>>>>> 17 Feb 2024 08:17:59 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/02/2024 07:45, Gremlin wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Tim!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi <whateveryourrealnameis>!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's Dustin. My real name isn't a secret, Tim...
>>>>
>>>> But you did blur out your house on Google Maps.
>>
>> You ignored this to talk about someone who is not relevant.
>>>

>>>> But you also told me in public writing I could share
>>>> your number -- and then freaked out when I did.
>>>
>>> What I specifically told you that you could share was your caller ID
>>> log,
>>
>> My provider's log. Which I did. And then you had a tantrum. You are
>> still having it.
>>
>>>> Projection.
>>>
>>> Nope. You're the fucking king of that, Snit.
>>
>> I quoted an example of you doing so. You are just blindly repeating
>> Carroll's trolling.
>>
>>>
>>>> Where did he say he was an expert?
>>>
>>> :) If I'm not mistaken, he does have a few certs under his belt. I do
>>> believe he's a CompTIA Instructor, if I'm not mistaken. Well, we have
>>> something in common there. I've had my Comptia A+ certification (which
>>> is still active status AND grandfathered) for 24 years? I think it is
>>> now, this coming June.
>>
>> But no place he said he was an expert on what was being discussed.
>>
>>>
>>>> You are the one who repeatedly says
>>>> you are and pretends you are not a peer of others... your ego.
>>>
>>> In the specific context that I've been using the word, Snit, you and I
>>> are not peers;
>>
>> Your ego is not going to be matched by many.
>>
>>> But Apd, Ftr, and myself, are. I know, that irks you to no end;
>>
>> This is a fine example of your projection. Where did you even come up
>> with the idea of my being "irked"?
>>>
>>> I really don't understand how either of you actually taught others,
>>> though.
>>
>> Just one of your many weaknesses -- but glad you can admit to it.
>>
>>> Tim mentioned ripping cds into mp3s I think? Would be an interesting
>>> discussion.
>>
>> It is easy to do.
>>
>>> You've both been around a long time, there's no way neither of you
>>> know anything about what I shared.
>>
>> You have shared how big your ego is.
>
> Carroll jumped in to try to defend Gremlin... and failed.

Heh, going by your lack of logic here, did Apd and FTR also jump in to
defend me (and SC) when they wrote this:

Message-ID: <uqrbul$kird$1...@dont-email.me>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=170845404800
> SC has said he could help but chooses not to (so I have no idea if he could
> help or not (nor care etc)).

I read recently that the ESP32 boards can be programmed via JavaScript.
This leads me to believe that SC could adapt from the HTML DOM he has
demonstrated his adeptness with to the new objects being manipulated
here.

> Gremlin has boasted that it's 'crayon level' and also posted nothing to
> support that in practice (and again, all I care about).

I suppose he would think that, especially as he would likely know how
to flash a homegrown binary directly to the board's chip.

***

You and Tim are well done, cooked, on this subject, dumbass.