Re: Puzzle corner

[Mike Easter]

Mike Easter wrote:
> The story behind how .fr and Ferdinand de Lesseps got involved in
> Panama because the (otherwise incompetent in this canal regard) FdL
> was successful in building the Suez C. was even more fascinating to
> me than the YF problem.

As I was saying the last 3rd of Sep, FdL was successful in building the
Suez Canal, which was a piece of cake compared to the situation in
Panama. Well, the geography of the Suez came into my view today as I
was orienting myself around the Red Sea geography.

The Suez goes from the Med to a Suez Gulf, an arm of the Red Sea. The
RS occupies the space between 'northeastern' (not a legitimate .af
subregion) .af and W. Saudi Arabia and Yemen, which NE .af is the E of
Egypt, Sudan, & Eritrea, then the RS connects to the Indian Ocean at the
Gulf of Aden.

This focus is on a Red Sea situation, namely a rotting dead ship filled
w/ a *million* (that is a very lot) gallons of oil.

Here's the story in the current New Yorker

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/10/11/the-ship-that-became-a-bomb
> Stranded in Yemen’s war zone, a decaying supertanker has more than a
> million barrels of oil aboard. If—or when—it explodes or sinks,
> thousands may die.


--
Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

Mike Easter wrote:
> then the RS connects to the Indian Ocean at the
> Gulf of Aden.

I should play the geography game by stricter rules.

There is an organization which defines the boundaries of various bodies
of water; the International Hydrographic Organization ie IHO. By doing
that, one can imagine a 'fence' or boundary line, and I left out a
'property', namely the Arabian Sea which is an extension of the Indian
Ocean. So, the seas in this issue are: Red Sea, a strait, Gulf of Aden,
Arabian Sea, Indian Ocean.

Until I read the article about the derelict supertanker threat, I didn't
realize the natural beauty and eco-diversity of the RS; that it has
extensive coral reefs and even atolls and flora and fauna associated w/
that that appear nowhere else in the world.

The wp RS article talks about the significance of its shipping lanes and
the numerous authorities which therefore oversee 'behavior' in the RS,
but all of that bureaucratic muscle is apparently powerless to deal w/
the tanker problem.

The article suggests, after mentioning numerous strategies including a
totally inept and helpless UN, that one concept is a 'commercial' ie
monetary one. The idea being; the oil has value, the derelict has scrap
value; ideally the oil could be off-loaded to other tanker/s and then
the derelict taken away and scrapped. The big part of the problem is
that those who are 'running' Yemen at this time are 'recalcitrant'.

Yemen is a disaster. Those in charge are the Houthi, religiously a
sub-minority of a minority of the country, but I won't bore us w/ the
religious demographics of Yemen.

--
Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

Today's CQ:

I've made it a point never to learn my social security number because
I'm a person, not a number.
H. Ross Perot

Solving: 'I've' 'a' 'never' 'it' 'to' 'point' 'learn'

Reading the HRP wp article is a reminder of *why* ...

> Although he failed to carry a single state in either election, both
> campaigns were among the strongest presidential showings by a third
> party or independent candidate in U.S. history.

It seems that the/his concept of a balanced budget is completely
unthinkable to either of our current major parties.

--
Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

Mike Easter wrote:
> Yemen is a disaster.

The Brits may be interested in the history of Brit protectorates in Arabia.

Federation of the Emirates of the South: an organization of states
within the British Aden Protectorate

> The Federation of six states was inaugurated in the British Colony of
> Aden on 11 February 1959, and the Federation and Britain signed a
> “Treaty of Friendship and Protection,” which detailed plans for
> British financial and military assistance.[1] It subsequently added
> nine states and, on 4 April 1962, became known as the Federation of
> South Arabia. This was joined by the Aden Colony on 18 January 1963.

... which Aden Colony

> a British Crown colony from 1937 to 1963 located in the south of
> contemporary Yemen.

... which came about due to British India

> On 18 January 1839, the British East India Company landed Royal
> Marines at Aden. Their aims were to establish a supply port and stop
> attacks by Arab pirates against British shipping to India. The
> British Government thereafter considered Aden to be an important
> settlement due to its location, as the Royal Navy could easily access
> the port for resupply and repairs.[1] Later, British influence
> extended progressively into the hinterland, both west and east,
> leading to the establishment of the Aden Protectorate.

I need to fill in some gaps in my history from the 19th century to the
Arab Spring in the 21st century; naturally there are a couple of
important world wars plus 'lesser' regional wars all mixed in there.
Fortunately the wp article on the peninsula covers its history in just a
few screenfuls.

> 3.4 Modern history
> 3.4.1 Late Ottoman rule and the Hejaz Railway
> 3.4.2 The Arab Revolt and the foundation of Saudi Arabia
> 3.4.3 Oil reserves
> 3.4.4 Civil war in Yemen
> 3.4.5 Gulf War
> 3.4.6 Yemen Arab Spring




--
Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

Sunday cryptoquip:

If notable 'Science Guy' Bill owned a trio of pet poodles, do you
suppose he would be three-dog Nye?

Solving: 'if' 'do you suppose he would be'

I found some interesting facets of the Bill Nye story; for example, his mom.

BN's mom was a class of 1942 'Goucher Girl' (Goucher College, Towson MD)
which became part of a larger group, 'Code Girls', smart young women
recruited to become an integral part of the wartime decoding operation.

Amazon book link w/ rave reviews:

https://www.amazon.com/Code-Girls-Untold-American-Breakers/dp/0316439894
> Code Girls: The Untold Story of the American Women Code Breakers of
> World War II

> Code Girls reveals a hidden army of female cryptographers, whose
> work played a crucial role in ending World War II. With clarity and
> insight, Mundy exposes the intertwined narratives of the women who
> broke codes and the burgeoning field of military intelligence in the
> 1940s. I cannot overstate the importance of this book; Mundy has
> rescued a piece of forgotten history, and given these American
> heroes the recognition they deserve.

Goucher Girls
https://blogs.goucher.edu/magazine/gouchers-secret-code-girls-helped-end-wwii/

> In 1942, in a locked room at the top of a building in downtown
> Baltimore, 10 young women learned cryptology

BN's own story is one of school to mechanical engineer from Cornell,
productive engineering job at Boeing for 9 years while his comedy career
was taking off, then full-time entertainer.



--
Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

Mike Easter wrote:
> I need to fill in some gaps in my history from the 19th century to the
> Arab Spring in the 21st century; naturally there are a couple of
> important world wars plus 'lesser' regional wars all mixed in there.
> Fortunately the wp article on the peninsula covers its history in just a
> few screenfuls.

However, a much more difficult wp table is from the article List of
modern conflicts in the Middle East. I didn't realize there were so
many ME deaths in WW I.

> Ottoman Empire deaths including civilians:
> 2,825,000[3][4][5]–5,000,000[6]
> Allied killed, wounded, captured or missing:
> 1,000,000–1,500,000[citation needed]
> Persians died by famine or disease, excluding influenza:
> 2,000,000[7][8][9]

... whereas the table says the dead of WW II there were ~ 16,000

If I only focus on events during my 'cognizance' which would be from the
50s, as I wasn't paying attention before that, I would still have my
hands full.

There is also a wp article on British foreign policy in the Middle East
from Napoleon to the Suez Crisis of '56, but we have seen earlier that
.uk involvement went on beyond that. There is a separate article about
.uk 'East of Suez'.

--
Mike Easter

[STALKING_TARGET_52]

LOL! How did Peeler get SO conceited he concludes everything is about
his comments??

Seriously, what lie? There's a few options to choose from in so far
as top bottom.

Peeler is far too ignorant to write a complex script. The only scripting
he's ever shown he can do is click, click, drool, drool. I think the
point is not really to get Snit to listen to him. The point is likely
to piss me off for flooding outside groups he knows I frequent. BTW,
I've already pointed out that his use of "cult-like" to describe Snit
is slander, since he's likening them to Mac users. These posts are clearly
not automated, they are made by Peeler who is a pill popping loser with
a sick agenda who has way too much time on his hands.

--
My Snoring Solution!
https://youtu.be/hYQ4Tg0r0g0
https://www.perkinscoie.com/en/professionals/michael-glaser.html
Dustin Cook the Fraud

[Apd]

"Mike Easter" wrote:
> Sunday cryptoquip:

Unlike:
https://www.arkansasonline.com/puzzles/quote/
which doesn't do a Sunday one, I can only get this from:
https://www.cecildaily.com/diversions/cryptoquip/
and then only if I use a proxy because it doesn't like the EU's GDPR.

What a load of hooey. Why should a US local newspaper give a shit
about EU directives?

> If notable 'Science Guy' Bill owned a trio of pet poodles, do you
> suppose he would be three-dog Nye?

June Fairchild -

"For several years, she lived with boyfriend Danny Hutton, a lead
singer for the rock group Three Dog Night. She is said to have
suggested the group's name after reading that Australian aborigines
gauged the coldness of a night by the number of dogs they had to curl
up with to stay warm" - LA Times obit.

I never knew that.

[Mike Easter]

Apd wrote:
> "Mike Easter" wrote:
>> Sunday cryptoquip:
>
> Unlike: https://www.arkansasonline.com/puzzles/quote/ which doesn't
> do a Sunday one, I can only get this from:
> https://www.cecildaily.com/diversions/cryptoquip/ and then only if I
> use a proxy because it doesn't like the EU's GDPR.
>
> What a load of hooey. Why should a US local newspaper give a shit
> about EU directives?
>

I dunno. To save server freight?

>> If notable 'Science Guy' Bill owned a trio of pet poodles, do you
>> suppose he would be three-dog Nye?
>
> June Fairchild -
>
> "For several years, she lived with boyfriend Danny Hutton, a lead
> singer for the rock group Three Dog Night. She is said to have
> suggested the group's name after reading that Australian aborigines
> gauged the coldness of a night by the number of dogs they had to
> curl up with to stay warm" - LA Times obit.
>
> I never knew that.
>

Yeah... I think I heard that somewhere.

I liked their It Ain't Easy single of the same-name album.

Interesting tidbit about the album cover...

> According to lead singer Chuck Negron's book Three Dog Nightmare, the
> album's working title was The Wizards of Orange, with a cover
> featuring the band's members wearing orange make-up and posing in the
> nude. The band's record company, ABC/Dunhill, rejected the original
> album title and cover art, although some configurations of their
> first "greatest hits" album, 1971's Golden Bisquits, would later be
> packaged using It Ain't Easy's original cover photo.

... and a wp contributor went to the trouble to fetch an original to
illustrate.

(No higher resolution available.) Not as racy as one might think.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/ThreeDogNight_ItAin%27tEasy_OriginaNakedCover.jpg


--
Mike Easter

[Kelly Phillips]

I think it was Rolling Stone, back in the '78-'80 timeframe, that first
clued me in to what a "three dog night" was, in an article about the group.
I thought it was cool because when I was a kid we'd bring the
normally-outdoor cats inside the house and put them in bed with us to help
keep us warm on super cold nights. I still remember my mother using a broom
handle to break the ice in the toilet on some of the colder mornings.

[Apd]

"Mike Easter" wrote:

> Apd wrote:
>> What a load of hooey. Why should a US local newspaper give a shit about
>> EU directives?
>
> I dunno. To save server freight?

In which case their "legal reason" is just a lame excuse.

>> June Fairchild -
[...]

>> I never knew that.
>
> Yeah... I think I heard that somewhere.

Disputed that it came from her, apparently.

> I liked their It Ain't Easy single of the same-name album.

I'd not heard their version. I remember them for "Mama Told Me Not to
Come" but didn't know it was written by Randy Newman.

> Interesting tidbit about the album cover...

[...]

> ... and a wp contributor went to the trouble to fetch an original to
> illustrate.
>
> (No higher resolution available.) Not as racy as one might think.
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/ThreeDogNight_ItAin%27tEasy_OriginaNakedCover.jpg

Not even slightly!

[Apd]

"Kelly Phillips" wrote:
> I think it was Rolling Stone, back in the '78-'80 timeframe, that first
> clued me in to what a "three dog night" was, in an article about the
> group. I thought it was cool because when I was a kid we'd bring the
> normally-outdoor cats inside the house and put them in bed with us to
> help keep us warm on super cold nights.

When I had a cat it was difficult to keep it out of the bed. Very good
as a foot-warmer at the bottom of the duvet.

> I still remember my mother using a broom handle to break the ice in the
> toilet on some of the colder mornings.

We weren't that cold but I remember the frost patterns in the morning
on the single-glazed steel-framed windows.

[Dustin Kook]

I do not grasp that. Denseness is denseness and there are many who are
okay with it. Some are even programmers.

Those who know my posts knows the flood bot is not written in the nature
Snit is thinking, and most of them are clearly hand written.

Carroll's essentially fooling Snit to keep feeding him by trying to 'build
circuits', specifically, his poor code and Snit's efforts to help him become
a better engineer. He needs debate, and as long as you are willing to continue
do his bidding, he will remain.

I believe we have two different perspectives for a good reason.


--
Curious how these posts are made? Email: fretw...@gmail.com

[Apd]

"Apd" wrote:
> "Mike Easter" wrote:
>> Sunday cryptoquip:
>
> Unlike:
> https://www.arkansasonline.com/puzzles/quote/

Which today has stopped working. Looks like you need an account.

> which doesn't do a Sunday one, I can only get this from:
> https://www.cecildaily.com/diversions/cryptoquip/

Their daily ones are different.

>> If notable 'Science Guy' Bill owned a trio of pet poodles, do you
>> suppose he would be three-dog Nye?

Pooches, not poodles.

[Mike Easter]

Today's CQ:

PQ ATSJSBL FI RYHRTYH.
QIN TYH RYHRTYSBL
FI ATSJ.   -  PHBOTDSB
AYTBWJSB

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By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail.
Benjamin Franklin

Solving: '-ing' 'by' 'to' 'you' 'fail' 'benjamin franklin' solved.


--
Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

Yeah; I 'saw' poodles before I had the 'c' in 'science). That's what I
get for seeing word patterns 'poo??es' before making careful letter
replacements.

Actually, neither 'pooches' nor 'poodles' is a good word for
quasi-domesticated dingos, 'tho pooches is much better. The wp article
on the 'status' of dingo domestication is 'complex'. Some believe the
dingo shouldn't be domesticated or considered a 'breed' by those who
recognize breeds of domesticated dogs.



--
Mike Easter

[Stephen Petruzzellis - fretwizer 0259]

"Missed it by that much" said Snit Michael Glasser's husband. What I know
is, when I have come across people calling themselves "conservatives" while
surfing, they were not the usual ninny sort that likes to complain about
this and that. Why are such herds seemingly never peaceful. Does it make
you sick?

That's what Snit Michael Glasser does when he gets cornered. He quickly
creates a new identity, starts a thread so he can claim he didn't do it.
Don't blame me it was my left hand... and then Snit Michael Glasser babbles
to himself with his right hand. Snit Michael Glasser is often seen saying
"GOOGLE HAS NOTHING" when it comes to information on the web where info
is easy to find... but Snit Michael Glasser is just too pea-brained or
too in over your head to interpret any instruction.


--
What Every Entrepreneur Must Know!
https://www.google.com/search?q=Steve%20Petruzzellis%20narcissistic%20bigot
https://swisscows.com/web?query=dustin%20cook%20%22functionally%20illiterate%20fraud%22
Narcissistic Bigot Steve Carroll

[Apd]

"Mike Easter" wrote:
> Apd wrote:

>>> https://www.arkansasonline.com/puzzles/quote/
>>
>> Which today has stopped working. Looks like you need an account.

Thanks for posting the OCR.

>> Pooches, not poodles.
>
> Yeah; I 'saw' poodles before I had the 'c' in 'science). That's what I
> get for seeing word patterns 'poo??es' before making careful letter
> replacements.
>
> Actually, neither 'pooches' nor 'poodles' is a good word for
> quasi-domesticated dingos, 'tho pooches is much better. The wp article
> on the 'status' of dingo domestication is 'complex'. Some believe the
> dingo shouldn't be domesticated or considered a 'breed' by those who
> recognize breeds of domesticated dogs.

It might depend on how many generations they're removed from the wild
and how much they've changed in other/physical ways. If all dogs are
descended from a wolf ancestor, it's amazing how much difference there
is between breeds compared to, say, domestic cats.

[Mike Easter]

Apd wrote:
> it's amazing how much difference there
> is between breeds compared to, say, domestic cats.

Yes; (all) domestic cats are just 'one step' away from being feral,
whereas dog breeds have become 'institutionalized'.

Dogs are different about how they 'companionate' than cats, who are
comfortable functioning in isolation when in a comfortable atmosphere,
but 'float' between solitary and 'pack' when feral. Particularly if the
pack is generations of a family.

Wolves are different from coyotes are different from dingos are
different from domestic dogs as to 'native' behavior in the wild, so it
is hard to characterize the canine wild behavior. It is pretty easy to
observe and study how groups of feral (alleged domestic) cats work
together and separately. And then we have lions and tigers and cheetahs.

And then there is the crazy world of hyenas, not canine nor feline, but
remotely kin to felines or civets.

--
Mike Easter

[Apd]

> "Apd" wrote:
>> https://www.arkansasonline.com/puzzles/quote/
>
> Which today has stopped working. Looks like you need an account.

And now it's back to how it was. I wonder if it'll last?


KUSSPCD LZRUZCU ACZB
STMS NZW CUUI TUKF PL M
SGWU LTZB ZX LSGUCDST.
- RUVVM BZZIL


Getting the first name of the author was a little challenge.

[Dustic Cook the Fucntionally Illiterate Fraud]

Michael Glasser Snit will be overwhelmed once the trolls overpopulate.
That and there will always be a conniption fit or more in an unmoderated
group. The impossibility of taming a shrew aside, we have all seen who
frequently gets enraged when he doesn't get anyone to shill for him.

Idiot.

When I was being honest, I wanted to be fair and impartial. I gave Steve
Carroll the Narcissistic Bigot more than a credible person should. What
were you doing? Just harebrained trolling. And I am giving attention
to that trolling. THAT is what the "Steve Carroll the Narcissistic Bigot
circus" is. Michael Glasser Snit created at least twenty virtual machines
in the last year or so. I bet nobody else has ever done that. Anyway,
it does not matter because the name on a post does not matter, it's the
content that counts. The content clearly is a bunch of rambling bullshit.
Which means...

--
I Left My Husband & Daughter At Home And THIS happened!
https://www.google.com/search?q=Dustin%20Cook%20functional%20illiterate%20fraud
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=steve+carroll+narcissistic+bigot
Steve Petruzzellis the Narcissistic Bigot

[Snit]

Was not familiar with the author so I had to look up what the V was, but
the rest was not too hard.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

[Mike Easter]

Apd wrote:
>> "Apd" wrote:
>>> https://www.arkansasonline.com/puzzles/quote/
>>
>> Which today has stopped working. Looks like you need an account.
>
> And now it's back to how it was. I wonder if it'll last?
>

Yeah; it still has a paywall port depending on how you enter the parent
site, but the access to the *actual* puzzle/s flipped to negative the
other day.

>
> KUSSPCD LZRUZCU ACZB
> STMS NZW CUUI TUKF PL M
> SGWU LTZB ZX LSGUCDST.
> - RUVVM BZZIL
>
>
> Getting the first name of the author was a little challenge.
>

The way I *attempt* to do that is to line up all of the unused letters
and guess at which one I think it is, then I search on the solved CQ +
the name I guessed. In this case I made a bizarre choice for some
reason, Bejja, which turned out to be wrong. The Becca Woods business
is a total unknown from a search perspective as it only turns up various
social media personalities and the CQ solution, so I still don't know
'which' Becca Woods made the CQ nor do I care. All kinds of people have
made similar quotes, so whoever Becca is didn't say anything new.

That is the kind of thing that quote master site likes to dig up.



--
Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

Oh, wait; this is all wrong. I was mixed up about what I did and what
the result was.

Mike Easter wrote:
> The way I *attempt* to do that is to line up all of the unused
> letters and guess at which one I think it is, then I search on the
> solved CQ + the name I guessed.

The first letter of the first name is M not B; but I searched on Mejja,
but it was 'negative' so I searched on the quote and found a quote
answer that was Becca; but THAT is wrong.

The person is Mecca Woods.

https://www.thestar.com/authors.woods_mecca.html
> Mecca Woods is a New York City-based astrologer and author who works
> to help others create a life they truly want using their natural-born
> gifts. Her writing and astro-guidance have appeared in places like
> Bustle, Essence, Cosmopolitan, TLC and now, Toronto Star. Her book
> “Astrology for Happiness and Success” is out now. Her forthcoming
> book, “The Astrology Journal” is due August 2021.

CQ:
https://www.thestar.com/life/horoscope/2021/09/26/horoscope-for-sunday-sept-26-2021.html
(Sagittarius)



--
Mike Easter

[Apd]

"Mike Easter" wrote:
> Oh, wait; this is all wrong. I was mixed up about what I did and what
> the result was.
>
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> The way I *attempt* to do that is to line up all of the unused
>> letters and guess at which one I think it is, then I search on the
>> solved CQ + the name I guessed.

That's exactly what I did and the unused letters can be found by my
substitution program. Parameters are all letters so far as one string
with spaces removed (duplicate letters don't matter) and a line of
dots or dashes the same length as the first string. Input is the
alphabet and output is the unused letters.

$> caesar [all found letters] [line of dots]
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
.bc......j......q....v.x.z
$>

> The first letter of the first name is M not B; but I searched on Mejja,
> but it was 'negative' so I searched on the quote and found a quote
> answer that was Becca; but THAT is wrong.

I had "me??a" already so the only letter to make sense was 'c'.

> The person is Mecca Woods.

When I searched on the quote, all I got was horroscopes which I
discounted. When I searched on the full name I found she wrote same!

> https://www.thestar.com/authors.woods_mecca.html
>> Mecca Woods is a New York City-based astrologer and author who works
>> to help others create a life they truly want using their natural-born
>> gifts.

I expect she means well and I don't doubt she's helped people despite
astrology being a lot of nonesense (that's why I couldn't believe what
searches were turning up).

[Mike Easter]

Apd wrote:
> I expect she means well and I don't doubt she's helped people
> despite astrology being a lot of nonesense (that's why I couldn't
> believe what searches were turning up).

The business of the historical relationship between astrology and actual
science is a fascinating one.

wp attempted to succinctly put it into one sentence which is impossible.

> Throughout most of its history, astrology was considered a scholarly
> tradition and was common in academic circles, often in close relation
> with astronomy, alchemy, meteorology, and medicine.



--
Mike Easter

[Apd]

Until (some) people knew better. Now, it's a pseudoscience or, being
faith based, perhaps a religion. If it works in helping people it
might be considered a placebo.

[Mike Easter]

Apd wrote:
> Until (some) people knew better. Now, it's a pseudoscience or, being
> faith based, perhaps a religion. If it works in helping people it
> might be considered a placebo.

I was listening to a talk show interview; I think the -ee was some kind
of clinical psychologist or such. In any case, he found 'astrology-ism'
to be useful to him in his patient communications. That's hard for me
to imagine, but I also hear 'nutritional supplement-ists' carry on w/
their patients (or talk show guests) as if they were going to solve all
of their medical problems w/ nutrients.

--
Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

Mike Easter wrote:
>
> I was listening to a talk show interview; I think the -ee was some kind
> of clinical psychologist or such.  In any case, he found 'astrology-ism'
> to be useful to him in his patient communications.  That's hard for me
> to imagine, but I also hear 'nutritional supplement-ists' carry on w/
> their patients (or talk show guests) as if they were going to solve all
> of their medical problems w/ nutrients.
>

I was trying to go back and figure out who that was and what his
clinical qualifications were and I'm now thinking that it wasn't
astrology he was using to communicate, but tarot cards.

> Dr. Arthur Rosengarten is a licensed clinical psychologist with over 40 years of experience as a therapist.

PhD, psychotherapist



--
Mike Easter

[HHI the imaginary friend]

Only Steven Petruzzellis repeatedly shows videos scripting Google
Groups.

Only Steven Petruzzellis repeatedly lied about what I say can be
done with AppleScript.

Only Steven Petruzzellis spoke of the bot changing names shortly
before it started to rapidly do so.

Only Steven Petruzzellis spoke of the bot changing how it wraps
shortly before it started doing so.

Only Steven Petruzzellis spoke of a GG plugin to block it even after
the name changes, something you later denied you could do, and as far
as has been speculated can only be done by the person running the bot.

Only Steven Petruzzellis said ALL of your "code demoes" were tied
to one or more bots.

Only Steven Petruzzellis admitted telling lies about scripting of
Google Groups.

Only Steven Petruzzellis (of those of us in this group) posted about
x10 suspending your 'net access for inappropriate bot usage.

Only Steven Petruzzellis (of those of us in this group) complained
about Comcast and their "Bot" harassment and their comments of the bot
on your Mac.

Only Steven Petruzzellis spoke of not just of how little programming
the bot *might* need, but how little it actually has. How would you know?

Only Steven Petruzzellis spoke of *posting* in response to emulating
a mouse click (do shell script "usr/local/bin/cliclick c:250,300").

Add to that you repeatedly insist the content of the bot posts serves
your stated goal perfectly of pointing away from you and toward the one
you have admitted you want to blame. How odd is that!

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[Steve Carroll]

Calls it "attacking" him, even though he proceeds to elicit that exact criterium.

Translation of -hh speak: -hh's superb "debugging abilities" made it so
he could not find an add-on he wants that can be quickly Googled for AppleScript.
The only thing defective here is -hh. If you have 'b.pdf' open in an application
such as Atom and -hh wants to change its name to 'c.txt' via a hot key, DBD's
method might be useful, if only to build a set of script tools.

-hh proved himself to be a bigot by claiming he would not rebut DBD by means
of veraciously trumpeting PLONK and then bombarding him repeatedly by means
of a 3rd party. The encryption is real, its presence at any point in time
being on your Linux installer is a false positive. DBD has been over this,
in exquisite detail previously, -hh. These posts are clearly NOT automated,
they are made by -hh who is a glue sniffing loser with a sick agenda who
has way too much time on his hands (and possibly has other trolls helping
him).


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[Apd]

"Mike Easter" wrote:
> Apd wrote:
>> Until (some) people knew better. Now, it's a pseudoscience or, being
>> faith based, perhaps a religion. If it works in helping people it
>> might be considered a placebo.
>
> I was listening to a talk show interview; I think the -ee was some kind
> of clinical psychologist or such. In any case, he found 'astrology-ism'
> to be useful to him in his patient communications. That's hard for me
> to imagine,

Psychology deals with the mind so it could be relevant that the
patient's faith-based practces (I saw your mention of tarot) are
somehow brought into play. However, doctors might want to be careful
lest they be acccused of quackery.

> but I also hear 'nutritional supplement-ists' carry on w/ their
> patients (or talk show guests) as if they were going to solve all of
> their medical problems w/ nutrients.

The placebo effect is strong with some people. They feel they are
being looked after and they are going to get better so they do; faith
healing, if you will. Chemical reactions may have been set off by
expectations to overcome any symptoms like pain but are they really
cured? The underlying condition may still exist.

Regarding holistic or "new age" medicine, a comic once said: "If I'm
in a serious car accident I want to hear sirens, not wind chimes".

(Today's CQ is still ok)

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-12, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:
> "Mike Easter" wrote:
>> Oh, wait; this is all wrong. I was mixed up about what I did and what
>> the result was.
>>
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>> The way I *attempt* to do that is to line up all of the unused
>>> letters and guess at which one I think it is, then I search on the
>>> solved CQ + the name I guessed.
>
> That's exactly what I did and the unused letters can be found by my
> substitution program.

Isn't that cheating (searching on the solved CQ)?

> Parameters are all letters so far as one string
> with spaces removed (duplicate letters don't matter) and a line of
> dots or dashes the same length as the first string. Input is the
> alphabet and output is the unused letters.
>
> $> caesar [all found letters] [line of dots]
> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
> .bc......j......q....v.x.z
> $>

I don't understand the 'unused letter guessing' aspect as compared to
'frequency guessing'. In any event, I did start to do what I was talking
about but I ran a layout problem:

<https://i.ibb.co/30GBf6C/cq.gif>

This looks OK but I carefully sized the window to hide the fact that it
wraps in the middle of words. I may need to redo the element structure
if I'm going to continue messing with it. I did get a rudimentary letter
replacement thing going, though, it'd take more work to get it happening
in any kind of decent fashion.

[Apd]

"Steve Carroll" wrote:

> On 2021-10-12, Apd wrote:
>>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>>> The way I *attempt* to do that is to line up all of the unused
>>>> letters and guess at which one I think it is, then I search on the
>>>> solved CQ + the name I guessed.
>>
>> That's exactly what I did and the unused letters can be found by my
>> substitution program.
>
> Isn't that cheating (searching on the solved CQ)?

No, I'm only looking for unused letters of the alphabet - same as ME
is doing with pencil and paper.

>> Parameters are all letters so far as one string
>> with spaces removed (duplicate letters don't matter) and a line of
>> dots or dashes the same length as the first string. Input is the
>> alphabet and output is the unused letters.
>>
>> $> caesar [all found letters] [line of dots]
>> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
>> .bc......j......q....v.x.z
>> $>
>
> I don't understand the 'unused letter guessing' aspect as compared to
> 'frequency guessing'.

I'm simply looking for letters not yet used. I've already found the
quote but not all the author's name. So I tell the program to
substitute every letter found for the same symbol (a dot), then I give
it the alphabet and all un-found letters are shown because no
substitution took place for them.

> In any event, I did start to do what I was talking about but I ran a
> layout problem:
>
> <https://i.ibb.co/30GBf6C/cq.gif>
>
> This looks OK but I carefully sized the window to hide the fact that it
> wraps in the middle of words. I may need to redo the element structure
> if I'm going to continue messing with it. I did get a rudimentary letter
> replacement thing going, though, it'd take more work to get it happening
> in any kind of decent fashion.

It's looking good. I take it the layout is generated automatically
when the quoute entered.

[Mike Easter]

Today's CQ:

https://www.arkansasonline.com/puzzles/quote/

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Put your heart, mind and soul into even your smallest task. This is the
secret of success.
Swami Sivananda

Solving: while experimenting 'mentally' I spotted 'success' because of
its repeaters and then 'this is the secret of success. The solo 'P' was
slowest of the first sentence until I recognized the nature of the
'instruction'.

SS (1887-1963) has been called "Swami Propagandananda" by his detractors
for his vigorous promotion of his yoga and Divine Life Society in the '50s.


--
Mike Easter

[Steven]

Usenet is an uncontrollable non-organization based on an honor system that
Vallor lacks.

Obviously, since Just Wondering and more can call Vallor out (repeatedly),
he's lied; otherwise everyone else must be lying be about him, and I don't
think Vallor's willing to go for mass attack of himself and demand that's
even possible. Just look at the effort Just Wondering once again had to spend
to get Vallor able to pull messages from an email server via scripting. Just
Wondering once again, took mistreatment from Vallor, instead of a great thanks,
much appreciated, response - that I know Just Wondering was owed for the
trouble and time he spent on the issue. He is unmistakably dishonest, he
got caught and he's doing the standard tricks covered in trolling 101 as
he endeavors to retain his story... but it will fail. Time to blame the herd!

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Dustin Cook the functional illiterate fraud

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Dustin Cook the functionally illiterate fraud

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-13, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:

(snip)

>> I don't understand the 'unused letter guessing' aspect as compared to
>> 'frequency guessing'.
>
> I'm simply looking for letters not yet used. I've already found the
> quote but not all the author's name.

I guess I posted too early this morning, I missed the "solved" part of
"solved CQ" ;)

> So I tell the program to
> substitute every letter found for the same symbol (a dot), then I give
> it the alphabet and all un-found letters are shown because no
> substitution took place for them.
>
>> In any event, I did start to do what I was talking about but I ran a
>> layout problem:
>>
>> <https://i.ibb.co/30GBf6C/cq.gif>
>>
>> This looks OK but I carefully sized the window to hide the fact that it
>> wraps in the middle of words. I may need to redo the element structure
>> if I'm going to continue messing with it. I did get a rudimentary letter
>> replacement thing going, though, it'd take more work to get it happening
>> in any kind of decent fashion.
>
> It's looking good. I take it the layout is generated automatically
> when the quoute entered.

Yes, and I fixed the wrapping issue. Unfortunately, in doing that, I
trashed the autocomplete (that was only 'sorta' working anyway) so it's
currently only a 'dumb' pad (it may never move past this stage):

<https://youtu.be/wZDbiHzz_eM>

It might actually be worth using if I get around to adding the
autocomplete in (and get it working properly).

[Ann Glaser]

He is a pinhead; advocates have kill filed his auto-posts. What he really
needs to figure out is a script that keeps switching names, then bot
posts have a shot at being half as replied to as he is. John Gohde doesn't
have any concept of what he is sobbing about.

Snit shared a specific series of signature lines several times now,
and invited John Gohde to show which ones aren't true and provide the
evidence to back his claim. Not one single time has John Gohde done so.
I am a complete fan of ChromeOS, because that's where all the compelling
modernization is happening.

That's what John Gohde does when he gets cornered. He immediately creates
a flood, starts a thread so he can claim it was Snit. Hey it was my left
hand... and then he responds to his own post with his right hand. The
guy is as well liked as a fart in a spacesuit -- and with good cause.



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[STALKING_TARGET_52]

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 2:16:30 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:

What did Michael Glasser AKA Snit hope for from the lying imbecile? That
Vallor bonehead has nothing to squander but time. He has nothing else, especially
not a caring family. The link to another one of Vallor's faked accounts,
no doubt. At some point Michael Glasser AKA Snit will realize his 'companion'
is not what he says. I generally go comment by comment unless someone has
a habit of especially drastic irrationality. With Vallor, I already know
what his approach is, all he craves is to 'win' and, regrettably, he'll do
*anything* to get it. His favorite routine is to play 'shill' but reality
shows it's all of usenet who are his targets. Vallor is trying "really hard"
to project their MO onto Michael Glasser AKA Snit. For over a decade Vallor
has bulldozed the belief that Michael Glasser AKA Snit needs 'backing' to
point out all his slander. The fact is that nobody needs any support to do
that. So Vallor pulls this goofy insulting garbage in a weak attempt to 'peddle'
the idea that Michael Glasser AKA Snit is like he is. Vallor says I'm not
'allowed' to call out their lies, and they aren't going to admit to any prior
bullshit they caused. Rather, I'm expected to forgive it all, and let them
start from scratch so they can just restart the attacks all over again, while
they continue to accept no responsibility for what they say and do in here
towards others? Geeeejus! How did Vallor get so conceited he concludes everything
is about him??


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Narcissistic Bigot Steve Carroll

[Steve Carroll]

I'm guessing, after kill filtering all the nyms from Snit / Snot, it is
mainly just two flooders making nearly all of the disruption. Obviously.
And both completely certifiable dingbats. Snit / Snot is a toxic maniac
who regularly claims anyone who disagrees with Dustin Cook to be a sock
and, still, he needs us to believe that makes sense. Gotta be crack. It's
like a poorly written flyer. Snit / Snot has already decided what he is
going to say before he calls. What you say is ignored. What Dustin Cook
says doesn't matter. At one point, he said a COLA denizen was "obsessing"
over him, which was defined as mentioning any of his socks. By getting
an education from 'social warriors' like that you get laws like 'affirmative
action'. Carried to its ultimate intent, the push that it's 'unequal' for
a straight male to not wish to have sex with a transvestite is created.



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[Apd]

"Steve Carroll" wrote:

> On 2021-10-13, Apd wrote:
>> I'm simply looking for letters not yet used. I've already found the
>> quote but not all the author's name.
>
> I guess I posted too early this morning, I missed the "solved" part of
> "solved CQ" ;)

Aha.

>> It's looking good. I take it the layout is generated automatically
>> when the quoute entered.
>
> Yes, and I fixed the wrapping issue. Unfortunately, in doing that, I
> trashed the autocomplete (that was only 'sorta' working anyway) so it's
> currently only a 'dumb' pad (it may never move past this stage):
>
> <https://youtu.be/wZDbiHzz_eM>
>
> It might actually be worth using if I get around to adding the
> autocomplete in (and get it working properly).

It really needs autocomplete to be any use but what you've done so
far is impressive.

[STALKING_TARGET_47]

The most obvious answer: Meat's consumed brightly colored pills since then,
and 'failed to remember'. What does it take to end this?

Open source is only inexpensive if your time has no value. If Meat calls
having his lies quoted time and time again every single day by dozens of
people (and completely trashing his reputation and any reason for anyone
to give credence to anything he has to say - until the cows come home) effective
'trolling', then fine... he is a crack troll. I do not agree with that view,
I use another term. I call him an utter lamebrain. Anyone who groks our history
knows it's not written in the sense Carroll is implying, and some of them
are clearly manually written.

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[Steve Carroll]

It's mostly DOM calls and CSS but I appreciate your saying so.

[Mike Easter]

Today's CQ:

https://www.arkansasonline.com/puzzles/quote/


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One always has time enough if one will apply it well.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Solving: ??e 'von' 'one' 'enough' 'always' .

When I was studying German in college, the course/s was/were about
reading scientific .de as opposed to conversational .de (which were my
.es classes), so one style of learning for me was to have a very strong
.de/.en dictionary available while reading text which had .de on one
page facing the other page which had the .en translation so that one
could go/ read the text/ pretty fast and only choose to look up
something in the dictionary if one wanted to get a broader grasp of
alternate ways of translating that same text or word or phrase. If one
did enough research on a sentence, they might translate a particular
passage 'better' than the book's translation had provided.

Then, I would try to read significant non-scientific .de works in the
'original' .de, such as Goethe's Faust or a modern .de version of
Nibelungenleid.

That was another one of those projects I never did really get done as
the demands of the other courses and labs were sufficiently demanding on
my time.


--
Mike Easter

[Apd]

"Mike Easter" wrote:
> Today's CQ:

> One always has time enough if one will apply it well.
> Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>
> Solving: ??e 'von' 'one' 'enough' 'always' .
>

> When I was studying German in college [...]

So you must have recognised the germanic nature of the name.
Despite passing a German exam, I didn't see it. After some false
starts, I got going with "will" and "well".

[Mike Easter]

Apd wrote:
> So you must have recognised the germanic nature of the name.
> Despite passing a German exam, I didn't see it. After some false
> starts, I got going with "will" and "well".

Well... I didn't /know/ it was .de when I considered 'von'; I just knew
it was a 3 letter surname 'part' of which a surname might have a 'de' or
'la' or 'de la' but 'von' was the only 3-letter which came to mind.

I generally think of 'L' for a double letter particularly at the end, I
recall that 'will' gave me the 'i' and the 'well' suited my 'e' wishes.

--
Mike Easter

[Apd]

"Mike Easter" wrote:
> Apd wrote:
>> So you must have recognised the germanic nature of the name.
>> Despite passing a German exam, I didn't see it. After some false
>> starts, I got going with "will" and "well".
>
> Well... I didn't /know/ it was .de when I considered 'von'; I just knew
> it was a 3 letter surname 'part' of which a surname might have a 'de' or
> 'la' or 'de la' but 'von' was the only 3-letter which came to mind.

I wasn't entirely sure it was a person's name as we (I) might usually
think - an example would be "Alfred The Great" Also, a "name" has
previously been "weary gardener". The word "von", meaning "from" or
"of", suggests "Goethe" is a place name but I can find no evidence of
that.

> I generally think of 'L' for a double letter particularly at the end, I
> recall that 'will' gave me the 'i' and the 'well' suited my 'e' wishes.

"the" wasn't to be and that 3-letter word ending in 'e' was slow in
coming.

[Mike Easter]

It is interesting in how the 'logistics' of solving can have an
evolutionary history.

When I first started solving these simple crypto/s, I was using the
deadtree v. of my newspaper; likewise for NYT x-word & sudoku. So, I
would do 'more' in my head than actually make a mark/ letter entry/ on
paper above the crypto letters, because it was in ink, like my x-word,
so making a 'premature' mistake was problematic.

Later, I stopped subscribing to the deadtree v. because I resented its
price and started just taking the e-edition. That required me to
develop a strategy for printing the x-word and sudoku for their solving,
but I didn't handle the crypto that way, I just 'viewed it' on the
computer screen and then I would start typing letters into a little text
editor when I had 'enough' which were strongly confirmed enough to
justify starting to type, using caps for the solved and small x for the
unknowns -- that enabled me to 'see' what a word w/ unknowns looked like
to enable guessing its unknowns.

The point of that long description above is that the evolution causes me
to 'do more' in my head before doing any typing than I would if I had a
printed version of the crypto and I were computationally substituting
letters instead of just doing it manually.

That is, I do 'more' manually, but my manual work is preceded by much
more mentally; and I think the mental process is faster than it would be
if I were doing it computationally substituting -- if you know what I
mean. Mentally is 'faster' for plugging in a trial and then unplugging
it than if I actually /did/ it computationally.


--
Mike Easter

[Apd]

I understand your perspective but I'm also giving it some thought, not
just plugging in random letters or those based on likely frequencies.
My utility helps reduce mistakes and brings out some things I've
missed. I find it's faster and less tedious.

There's a newspaper puzzle a bit like this that I sometimes do. It
looks like a crossword but every empty square has a number
representing a letter of the alphabet. You are given a few letters
to start, e.g. 'm' = 5, d = 11 and every letter in the alphabet is
present and will have a number. I do that in the pub with no
computational help. A mistake is difficult to correct and can make a
mess of it. I have been known to take it home and solve it with the
help of another program I wrote just for the purpose.

[Mike Easter]

Apd wrote:
> My utility helps reduce mistakes and brings out some things I've
> missed.

Yes; evidence my 'poodles' v 'pooches' error from 'jumping' on a word
which wasn't borne out by more careful letter replacement. An algo
wouldn't make that mistake.

--
Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

Today's CQ online.

https://www.arkansasonline.com/puzzles/quote/

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You look ridiculous if you dance. You look ridiculous if you don't
dance. So you might as well dance.
Gertrude Stein

Solving: 'you' 'don't' 'look' 'ridiculous'. Dance was last after I
finally got an 'e' from 'well' and 'a' from 'as'.

GS:
> She hosted a Paris salon, where the leading figures of modernism in
> literature and art, such as Pablo Picasso, Ernest Hemingway, F. Scott
> Fitzgerald, Sinclair Lewis, Ezra Pound, Sherwood Anderson and Henri
> Matisse, would meet.

The GS wp sections on Alice B. Toklas and WW II were interesting to me.


--
Mike Easter

[Steve Carroll]

I guess I don't understand the use of the term "computationally
substituting" as my idea of it would be much faster than anything you
could do and/or hold in your head.

> but I'm also giving it some thought, not
> just plugging in random letters or those based on likely frequencies.
> My utility helps reduce mistakes and brings out some things I've
> missed. I find it's faster and less tedious.

Less tedious (based solely on my perception of how it might be done, I
have zero experience with this) is essentially what I was shooting for.

> There's a newspaper puzzle a bit like this that I sometimes do. It
> looks like a crossword but every empty square has a number
> representing a letter of the alphabet. You are given a few letters
> to start, e.g. 'm' = 5, d = 11 and every letter in the alphabet is
> present and will have a number. I do that in the pub with no
> computational help. A mistake is difficult to correct and can make a
> mess of it. I have been known to take it home and solve it with the
> help of another program I wrote just for the purpose.

These replies are confirming for me why I shouldn't continue with this
as a project. Well, that, and the fact that the markup I used to achieve
what was shown in the screencast isn't likely to be performant, given
what I'd have to do with an array inside of an array (a better way to go
would be to use a two way binding on text strings, which probably
couldn't be made to look as pleasing, visibly). In any event, it seems
this kind of 'help' isn't conducive to the spirit of the thing anyway
so, as they say: 'That's that' ;)

[Mike Easter]

Revelations from Fri NYT x-word:

Hybrid citrus fruit native to China: Meyer lemon
Literally, 'disciple': Sikh
The toe of a geographical 'boot': Oman
Jewelry creator Elsa who helped define the Tiffany brand: Peretti
Nickname for Chicago's Cloud Gate sculpture: The Bean

> By the mid-1940s, the Meyer lemon had become widely grown in
> California. However, at that time it was discovered that a majority
> of the Meyer lemon trees being cloned were symptomless carriers of
> the Citrus tristeza virus, a virus which had killed millions of
> citrus trees all over the world and rendered other millions useless
> for production.[14] After this finding, most of the Meyer lemon trees
> in the United States were destroyed to save other citrus trees. The
> Meyer lemon is also known as the Valley Lemon.

> Sikh migration from British India began in earnest during the second
> half of the 19th century, when the British completed their annexation
> of the Punjab. which led to Sikh migration throughout India and the
> British Empire. During the Raj, semiskilled Sikh artisans were
> transported from the Punjab to British East Africa to help build
> railroads. Sikhs emigrated from India after World War II, most going
> to the United Kingdom but many to North America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Peninsula#/media/File:Arabian_Peninsula_Map.svg

> In 1974, she signed a contract with Tiffany & Co to design silver
> jewelry;[18] her work for them was the first time Tiffany had sold
> jewelry in that material in 25 years.[7] By 1979, she was the firm's
> leading designer.[

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/Cloud_Gate_%28The_Bean%29_from_east%27.jpg

(the wp article on construction-related problems for The Bean is of some
interest)



--
Mike Easter

[Apd]

"Steve Carroll" wrote:

> On 2021-10-15, Apd wrote:
>> "Mike Easter" wrote:

>>> The point of that long description above is that the evolution causes
>>> me to 'do more' in my head before doing any typing than I would if I
>>> had a printed version of the crypto and I were computationally
>>> substituting letters instead of just doing it manually.
>>>
>>> That is, I do 'more' manually, but my manual work is preceded by much
>>> more mentally; and I think the mental process is faster than it would
>>> be if I were doing it computationally substituting -- if you know what
>>> I mean. Mentally is 'faster' for plugging in a trial and then
>>> unplugging it than if I actually /did/ it computationally.
>>
>> I understand your perspective
>
> I guess I don't understand the use of the term "computationally
> substituting" as my idea of it would be much faster than anything you
> could do and/or hold in your head.

For me, it is.

>> I find it's faster and less tedious.
>
> Less tedious (based solely on my perception of how it might be done, I
> have zero experience with this) is essentially what I was shooting for.

Yes, and it would be a good graphical alternative to my tool.

>> [...] I have been known to take it home and solve it with the help

>> of another program I wrote just for the purpose.

That one was a Windows graphical program.

> These replies are confirming for me why I shouldn't continue with this
> as a project. Well, that, and the fact that the markup I used to achieve
> what was shown in the screencast isn't likely to be performant, given
> what I'd have to do with an array inside of an array (a better way to go
> would be to use a two way binding on text strings, which probably
> couldn't be made to look as pleasing, visibly). In any event, it seems
> this kind of 'help' isn't conducive to the spirit of the thing anyway
> so, as they say: 'That's that' ;)

What you're doing is a graphical version of my command line program so
I don't think it's against the spirit in any way. They just save a lot
of typing when all repeats of a decoding are automatically placed.
Which is easier or better to use? I don't know. Your's looks nicer to
use but mine has a history of attempts as each invocation of the
command scrolls. There's little extra typing in mine because the
command line is recalled with the up/down arrows then one or more
letters deleted or added in the code or translation arguments.
Likewise with the encoded quote; it's pasted in to start then recalled
with the up-arrow when the program runs (separate buffers maintained
by the system).

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-15, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:

The two way data binding might prove to be a worthy opponent to you CLI
up/down. If you would indulge me, let's test something:

xpd npd frpdn lpd, gxu lmg ljkuq m fmg gxmg dumrq m xmg

(this may not be long enough and/or have enough info)

Tell me the steps you'd use to solve that manually and I'll write
something along the lines of what I was talking about with data binding
(it'll just be a couple of strings, visibly). I'll then try to follow
your steps using it.

Swapping out with uppercase, I'd start with the lone 'm' and begin by
assuming it's the letter 'a', which would produce:

xpd npd frpdn lpd, gxu lAg ljkuq A fAg gxAg duArq A xAg

Or it could be an 'i', thus yielding:

xpd npd frpdn lpd, gxu lIg ljkuq I fIg gxIg duIrq I xIg

I'd probably go for the 'g' because of how it starts and ends a 4 letter
word and starts or ends several 3 letter words. Seems the most common 4
letter words that start and end with the same letter use these letters:
a,b,d,e,f,g,h,k,m,n,p,r,s,t

Of those, how many fit the 3 letter words where 'a' or 'i' is the middle
letter? I obviously know the solution but these are the steps I'd begin
with to narrow it down. What's a better way, manually?

[Mike Easter]

Steve Carroll wrote:
> What's a better way, manually?

xpd npd frpdn lpd, gxu lmg ljkuq m fmg gxmg dumrq m xmg

I change that to

XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG

... for my eyes.

I mentally see the M=A likely and that leads to GXMG =THAT which gives
me XPD = Hxx resembling the same 'xx' in the next letter which causes me
to think HOW NOW and then I want BROWN COW. This crypto breaks the
daily CQ rule about *everything* is supposed to be replaced, but R isn't.

Now that I have THAT, I see GXU=THE and CAT CxxES A BAT WEARS A HAT.

The last two singleton letters are unknown to me; they should come from
the letters which aren't encrypted yet: FGIJKLMNOPQUVXYZ

I can make some words out of that, but I don't know which is right.

There's an Uncle Willy bedtime series about a cat, a rat, and a hat
wearing bat but I still don't know the CxxES word.



--
Mike Easter

[Steve Carroll]

The guy is as loved as a rattle snake in a lucky dip -- and with good reason.
I'm well aware the junk I link to from this group is merely neophyte level.
That said, it accomplished what I want. I just configured score: -9999
and won't be bothered by the idiot. Just Wondering's flooding has made
a full-out ruin of my scripting via GG, so I don't make an attempt posting
to Mike Easter with my phone anymore. Only thing he has accomplished with
this crap is that the Just Wondering boycott has been shown to be the right
choice.

I have a little script I use as well, but it's a bit different. What did
Mike Easter hope for from the lying imbecile? That Just Wondering bozo
has nothing to waste but time. He has nothing else, especially not a caring
family. Just Wondering gets off on that Mike Easter is on the other end.
Imagine if Just Wondering walked up to a wall and delivered the punch line.
It wouldn't be funny.

--
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https://www.google.com/search?q=dustin+cook+the+functionally+illiterate+fraud
Dustin Cook the Fraud

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-15, Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote:
> Steve Carroll wrote:
>> What's a better way, manually?
>
> xpd npd frpdn lpd, gxu lmg ljkuq m fmg gxmg dumrq m xmg
>
> I change that to
>
> XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG
>
> ... for my eyes.
>
> I mentally see the M=A likely and that leads to GXMG =THAT which gives
> me XPD = Hxx resembling the same 'xx' in the next letter which causes me
> to think HOW NOW and then I want BROWN COW. This crypto breaks the
> daily CQ rule about *everything* is supposed to be replaced, but R isn't.

Rules? Schmules ;) (I don't know squat about this stuff)

How about this (I think I got 'em all):

XPD NPD FYPDN VPD, GXU VMG ZJNUQ M FMG GXMG DUMYQ M XMG

> Now that I have THAT, I see GXU=THE and CAT CxxES A BAT WEARS A HAT.
>
> The last two singleton letters are unknown to me; they should come from
> the letters which aren't encrypted yet: FGIJKLMNOPQUVXYZ

If you have any new steps to add using my updated string please add 'em.

> I can make some words out of that, but I don't know which is right.

You got damn close. I'm finishing up the script on this test and when
it's ready I'll try your steps as outlined (as I understand them to be).

> There's an Uncle Willy bedtime series about a cat, a rat, and a hat
> wearing bat but I still don't know the CxxES word.

I made this one up. I probably won't flesh this thing out to be of much
use to anyone but I just wanted to see what's up with how these are done
manually and if those steps can be moved over to my 'mess'. I imagine
it'll be annoying to look at if you don't understand what I'm doing. The
reason is I'll probably not fully update the top line (the original
characters), just the bottom. The top will get updated as to the
character I'm editing at the time, which will be replaced with an
uppercase character. In any event, it's almost done, I'll put up a
screencast of it working. I guess that won't do you much good, though...
but thanks for the input anyway.

[HHI]

The most obvious answer: Shadow's consumed alcohol since then, and 'forgot'.

I thought showing Shadow a taste of his own medicine might help the situation.
It did not. I want Shadow to support his doxing accusation. Let's see the
evidence Shadow. When I accused Shadow of socking as Snit Glasser Michael
I actually supported it with quotes.

--
"You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him.
He clearly wants the attention"
Steve Carroll, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.

[Apd]

"Steve Carroll" wrote:
> The two way data binding might prove to be a worthy opponent to you CLI
> up/down. If you would indulge me, let's test something:
>
> xpd npd frpdn lpd, gxu lmg ljkuq m fmg gxmg dumrq m xmg
>
> (this may not be long enough and/or have enough info)

Not bad but there's one word not making sense as Mike E pointed out.
I solved this before looking at his reply and in a different way.

> Tell me the steps you'd use to solve that manually and I'll write
> something along the lines of what I was talking about with data binding
> (it'll just be a couple of strings, visibly). I'll then try to follow
> your steps using it.
>
> Swapping out with uppercase, I'd start with the lone 'm' and begin by
> assuming it's the letter 'a', which would produce:
>
> xpd npd frpdn lpd, gxu lAg ljkuq A fAg gxAg duArq A xAg

That's how I started but swapped the case around

> Or it could be an 'i', thus yielding:
>
> xpd npd frpdn lpd, gxu lIg ljkuq I fIg gxIg duIrq I xIg

Didn't try that.

> I'd probably go for the 'g' because of how it starts and ends a 4 letter
> word and starts or ends several 3 letter words. Seems the most common 4
> letter words that start and end with the same letter use these letters:
> a,b,d,e,f,g,h,k,m,n,p,r,s,t
>
> Of those, how many fit the 3 letter words where 'a' or 'i' is the middle
> letter? I obviously know the solution but these are the steps I'd begin
> with to narrow it down. What's a better way, manually?

My approach is to use spaces for missing letters and line up answer
below (use fixed-width font). Assuming 'M' = 'a' look for "the" being
the first word:

$> caesar MXPD athe 32

XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG

the he he he t a a a ta e a a ta

Not looking sensible. "GXU" is next best choice:

$> caesar MGXU athe 32

XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG

h the at e a at that ea a hat

Now I have two more words. "DUMRQ" looks like "means":

$> caesar MGXUDRQ athemns 32

XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG

h m m n m m the at es a at that means a hat

Not looking sensible. Try for "wears":

$> caesar MGXUDRQ athewrs 32

XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG

h w w r w w the at es a at that wears a hat

First word has to have an 'o':

$> caesar MGXUDRQP athewrso 32

XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG

how ow row ow the at es a at that wears a hat

Now I recognise the saying in the first 4 words (not a good idea to
have 'N' = 'n'):

$> caesar MGXUDRQPNFL athewrsonbc 32

XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG

how now brown cow the cat c es a bat that wears a hat

The only word I can fit for "LJKUQ" is "clues". Don't know what that
means in this context!

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-15, Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
> On 2021-10-15, Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote:
>> Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> What's a better way, manually?
>>
>> xpd npd frpdn lpd, gxu lmg ljkuq m fmg gxmg dumrq m xmg
>>
>> I change that to
>>
>> XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG
>>
>> ... for my eyes.
>>
>> I mentally see the M=A likely and that leads to GXMG =THAT which gives
>> me XPD = Hxx resembling the same 'xx' in the next letter which causes me
>> to think HOW NOW and then I want BROWN COW. This crypto breaks the
>> daily CQ rule about *everything* is supposed to be replaced, but R isn't.
>
>
> Rules? Schmules ;) (I don't know squat about this stuff)
>
> How about this (I think I got 'em all):

I missed the 'N'!

In any event, this, ugly and confusing as it is to look at, is what I
was referring to earlier, two way binding:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTiP9yOT4zQ>

You can see the page requires no refresh to update. I basically followed
your steps and added a couple that were obvious at the end. The missing
partial word is obvious.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-15, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:

(snip)

>> What's a better way, manually?
>
> My approach is to use spaces for missing letters and line up answer
> below (use fixed-width font). Assuming 'M' = 'a' look for "the" being
> the first word:
>
> $> caesar MXPD athe 32
> XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG
> the he he he t a a a ta e a a ta
>
> Not looking sensible. "GXU" is next best choice:
>
> $> caesar MGXU athe 32
> XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG
> h the at e a at that ea a hat
>
> Now I have two more words. "DUMRQ" looks like "means":
>
> $> caesar MGXUDRQ athemns 32
> XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG
> h m m n m m the at es a at that means a hat
>
> Not looking sensible. Try for "wears":
>
> $> caesar MGXUDRQ athewrs 32
> XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG
> h w w r w w the at es a at that wears a hat
>
> First word has to have an 'o':
>
> $> caesar MGXUDRQP athewrso 32
> XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG
> how ow row ow the at es a at that wears a hat

That was manually? ;)

> Now I recognise the saying in the first 4 words (not a good idea to
> have 'N' = 'n'):

?? I used only lowercase. I did mess up by not replacing 'n', though.

> $> caesar MGXUDRQPNFL athewrsonbc 32
> XPD NPD FRPDN LPD, GXU LMG LJKUQ M FMG GXMG DUMRQ M XMG
> how now brown cow the cat c es a bat that wears a hat
>
> The only word I can fit for "LJKUQ" is "clues". Don't know what that
> means in this context!

See the screencast I just posted:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTiP9yOT4zQ>

[STALKING_TARGET_59]

Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll's obsession with Just 'The Fool'
Wondering started in 2004 when Carroll got mad about his then girlfriend
obsessing over Just 'The Fool' Wondering (heavily documented here: <http://tinyurl.com/proof-
about-ebot>). Just 'The Fool' Wondering continued to respond to Steve
for about 5 years, when Steve flipped out in 2009 and started contacting
Just 'The Fool' Wondering's employer with the stated goal to have him
fired (he spoke of doing so even if he had to twist arms):

<http://goo.gl/OHNryA>
<http://goo.gl/MZ6yCD>
<http://goo.gl/WaKKGq>

There were more, but Carroll has had them deleted from the Google archive.
I have not spent the time to find them elsewhere (and likely will not).

With that Just 'The Fool' Wondering stopped responding directly to Steve
except for *one* chance he gave him in 2011 when Steve was accusing *Just
'The Fool' Wondering* of running: <http://goo.gl/racU64>.

Carroll, as predicted, ran (he always does when faced with facts):
<http://goo.gl/qHs5Xh>

Steven Petruzzellis knows he has no backing for any of his nonsense
and has become, if anything, more and more obsessive since Just 'The
Fool' Wondering stopped responding to him.

Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is truly a very, very sick man.

--
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[Apd]

"Steve Carroll" wrote:

> On 2021-10-15, Apd wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>>> What's a better way, manually?

[...]
> That was manually? ;)

Apart from search & replace in Notepad when I first did these, it's
the only way I do them! I consider it manually saving typing and
accumulating my result automatically. It shows my thinking process
would have been the same even if I had written it out every time.

>> The only word I can fit for "LJKUQ" is "clues". Don't know what that
>> means in this context!
>
> See the screencast I just posted:
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTiP9yOT4zQ>

"Lines" a bat?

I wouldn't change the letter in the top (encrypted) row as you type.
Maybe highlight it briefly.

[Mike Easter]

Steve Carroll wrote:

> Apd wrote:
>
>> The only word I can fit for "LJKUQ" is "clues". Don't know what that
>> means in this context!
>
> See the screencast I just posted:
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTiP9yOT4zQ>
>

The CxxES still isn't decrypted in SC's vid.

--
Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

Today's CQ online.

https://www.arkansasonline.com/puzzles/quote/


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The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.
Rumi

Solving: 'the' 'to' 'hear' 'more' 'you' 'are'. Quieter last.

> Jalāl ad-Dīn Mohammad Rūmī more popularly known simply as Rumi
> (1207–1273), was a 13th-century Persian[11][1][12] poet, Hanafi
> faqih, Islamic scholar, Maturidi theologian, and Sufi mystic ...
> influence transcends national borders and ethnic divisions: Iranians,
> Tajiks, Turks, Greeks, Pashtuns, other Central Asian Muslims, and the
> Muslims of the Indian subcontinent have greatly appreciated his
> spiritual legacy for the past seven centuries.

> Recordings of Rumi poems have made it to the USA's Billboard's Top 20
> list. A selection of American author Deepak Chopra's editing of the
> translations by Fereydoun Kia of Rumi's love poems has been performed
> by Hollywood personalities such as Madonna, Goldie Hawn, Philip Glass
> and Demi Moore.




--
Mike Easter

[Dustin Kook]

ronb doesn't have any concept of what he is sniveling about.

ronb expects people to believe that a poster such as Snit who he has
again claimed to be a troll is someone to 'trust'? How can he assume people
are that stupid? Both of those guys get their jollies out of eliciting
angry reactions to their flooding, which is the very definition of a troll.

On and on. ronb is again trying to bolster himself beyond his grade.
He's the court jester and his many stupid tasks show this. Don't get too
arrogant, ronb, sometimes "your shills" are just that. ronb's indictment
is misplaced up front, and not correct second of all. Is Snit working
on being just as much of a deceitful liar as ronb is already known as
being?

--
"You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about
him. He clearly wants the attention"

Steven Petruzzellis, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-16, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:
> "Steve Carroll" wrote:
>> On 2021-10-15, Apd wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>>> What's a better way, manually?
> [...]
>> That was manually? ;)
>
> Apart from search & replace in Notepad when I first did these, it's
> the only way I do them! I consider it manually saving typing and
> accumulating my result automatically. It shows my thinking process
> would have been the same even if I had written it out every time.
>
>>> The only word I can fit for "LJKUQ" is "clues". Don't know what that
>>> means in this context!
>>
>> See the screencast I just posted:
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTiP9yOT4zQ>
>
> "Lines" a bat?

Third time is a charm?

xpd kpd fnpdk vpd, gxu vmg yjzuq m fmg gxmg dumnq m xmg

Or not ;)

> I wouldn't change the letter in the top (encrypted) row as you type.
> Maybe highlight it briefly.

This was just a quick test to see how performant this would be with
longer strings. I didn't even bother doing it with the one that had all
the divs. The CSS is leftover from that version, though, so it's got
unused selector refs hanging around. This one is virtually
instantaneous. I punched this in...

KUSSPCD LZRUZCU ACZB STMS NZW CUUI TUKF PL M SGWU LTZB ZX LSGUCDST. - RUVVM BZZIL

... over 10 x and it blazed through it (probably be the same, visually,
at 100x). What's the longest quote you've ever seen? Why are these
quotes done as images!?

[Mike Easter]

Steve Carroll wrote:
> If you would indulge me, let's test something:
>
> xpd npd frpdn lpd, gxu lmg ljkuq m fmg gxmg dumrq m xmg

This one has 3 singletons in the unknown word:

yjzuq YJZUQ xxxES

HOW NOW BROWN COW, THE CAT xxxES A BAT THAT WEARS A HAT.

--
Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

Oops. I copied the unknown word from the wrong place.

ljkuq LJKUQ xxxES

--
Mike Easter

[Steve Carroll]

Here's the phrase run through an online generator (wordles):

VTM GTM JETMG KTM, DVF KBD CPWFU B JBD DVBD MFBEU B VBD

And here it is with a word added to provide more info:

VLJ MLJ YSLJM GLJ, IVF GKI XUAFC K YKI IVKI JFKSC K YXKGA VKI

The quipquip site solved them but the first one wouldn't produce the
missing word when set to 'statistics' (dictionary worked, result #5).

As for my 'project':

YRH, YV P VYPH, DQYD'V DQYD

P = I

[Apd]

"Steve Carroll" wrote:

> On 2021-10-16, Apd wrote:
>> "Lines" a bat?
>
> Third time is a charm?
>
> xpd kpd fnpdk vpd, gxu vmg yjzuq m fmg gxmg dumnq m xmg
>
> Or not ;)

The word "yjzuq" can only be guessed at because the first three
letters don't occur elsewhere. I think "likes".

>> I wouldn't change the letter in the top (encrypted) row as you type.
>> Maybe highlight it briefly.
>
> This was just a quick test to see how performant this would be with
> longer strings. I didn't even bother doing it with the one that had all
> the divs. The CSS is leftover from that version, though, so it's got
> unused selector refs hanging around. This one is virtually
> instantaneous. I punched this in...
>
> KUSSPCD LZRUZCU ACZB STMS NZW CUUI TUKF PL M SGWU LTZB ZX LSGUCDST. -
> RUVVM BZZIL
>
> ... over 10 x and it blazed through it (probably be the same, visually,
> at 100x). What's the longest quote you've ever seen?

I'm surprised time is a factor. Since I've been doing these, 151 chars
including spaces and punctuation.

> Why are these quotes done as images!?

I would guess it's to discourage feeding them into automatic solvers!
One version carries a copyright notice so it may also be an anti-
plagiarism thing.

[Steven Carroll]

The encryption is real, its presence at any point in time being on your Linux
virtual drive is a false negative. Troll Killer Snit has been over this,
in great detail previously, Chris.

At some point, if you bother to care... you'd see that Chris's plan is to
'casually' incite people and then play 'dupe'.

If Chris calls getting shoved into kill filters left and right for over
a decade by everyone (and completely ruining his name and any reason for
me to trust anything he has to say) successful 'trolling', then yeah... he
is a good troll. I can not personally subscribe to that meaning, I use another
term. I call him a total lummox.

Chris only thinks about Troll Killer Snit, Troll Killer Snit, Troll Killer
Snit!

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[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-16, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:

> "Steve Carroll" wrote:
>> On 2021-10-16, Apd wrote:
>>> "Lines" a bat?
>>
>> Third time is a charm?
>>
>> xpd kpd fnpdk vpd, gxu vmg yjzuq m fmg gxmg dumnq m xmg
>>
>> Or not ;)
>
> The word "yjzuq" can only be guessed at because the first three
> letters don't occur elsewhere. I think "likes".

It is.

>>> I wouldn't change the letter in the top (encrypted) row as you type.
>>> Maybe highlight it briefly.
>>
>> This was just a quick test to see how performant this would be with
>> longer strings. I didn't even bother doing it with the one that had all
>> the divs. The CSS is leftover from that version, though, so it's got
>> unused selector refs hanging around. This one is virtually
>> instantaneous. I punched this in...
>>
>> KUSSPCD LZRUZCU ACZB STMS NZW CUUI TUKF PL M SGWU LTZB ZX LSGUCDST. -
>> RUVVM BZZIL
>>
>> ... over 10 x and it blazed through it (probably be the same, visually,
>> at 100x). What's the longest quote you've ever seen?
>
> I'm surprised time is a factor.

It isn't when done like this, which was the point in making the change
from the nicer looking version that would have probably been a pig,
performance-wise.

As you know, your CLI based stuff has no DOM to deal with and the DOM is
not exactly a speed demon in the world of computing (and CSS plays a
role). Go take a look at a single element, you'll see a boatload of
properties, even a simple text node holding a single char has a ton:

let a = 'A'
let b = $('body')
b.append(a)
b.childNodes

Dropdown 'NodeList' then dropdown 'text' and any of the other dropdowns
you see there, pretty insane.

> Since I've been doing these, 151 chars
> including spaces and punctuation.
>
>> Why are these quotes done as images!?
>
> I would guess it's to discourage feeding them into automatic solvers!

Which I did anyway ;)

[Apd]

"Steve Carroll" wrote:
> On 2021-10-16, Apd wrote:
>> I'm surprised time is a factor.
>
> It isn't when done like this, which was the point in making the change
> from the nicer looking version that would have probably been a pig,
> performance-wise.
>
> As you know, your CLI based stuff has no DOM to deal with and the DOM is
> not exactly a speed demon in the world of computing (and CSS plays a
> role). Go take a look at a single element, you'll see a boatload of
> properties, even a simple text node holding a single char has a ton:
>
> let a = 'A'
> let b = $('body')
> b.append(a)
> b.childNodes
>
> Dropdown 'NodeList' then dropdown 'text' and any of the other dropdowns
> you see there, pretty insane.

So I see. Also, the characters are unicode whereas mine are single-
byte ASCII. This means I can use a 256 byte lookup table to hold the
translation characters and use the ASCII byte value as an index. So,
after parameter checks and table setup, the processing is just this:

do {
ch=getchar(); // read a character
if (ch!=EOF) putchar(table[ch]); // output table value
}
while (ch!=EOF);

[Apd]

"Steve Carroll" wrote:
> As for my 'project':
>
> YRH, YV P VYPH, DQYD'V DQYD
>
> P = I

PD AYV BCR AQPEF PD EYVDFH.

(same as your code with additions but no. 3 in a dictionary solve at
quipquip if you can't be arsed)

[Mike Easter]

Today's Sat NYT x-word kicked my ass. It was necessary for me to use
'aids' (my friends/fiends call that 'cheating'). My rule is that I
shall not use any general search engine, because that is likely to turn
up a direct NYT x-word answer.

In the past when all of this was deadtree, the .puz and the aid/s, I had
all kinds of deadtree aids like dictionaries and x-word dictionaries and
a 'desk encyclopedia' in addition to a great set of Britannica/s -- but
in the present I have only one (well, two) aid, the wp mostly or
sometimes the wiktionary.

One interesting answer which did not require aid because it was aided
greatly by solved crossings...

Home of the only world capital to border two other countries: Slovakia

> ... is bordered by Poland to the north, Ukraine to the east, Hungary
> to the south, Austria to the southwest, and the Czech Republic to the
> northwest. ...

cap Bratislavia
> ... is in southwestern Slovakia at the foot of the Little Carpathians,
> occupying both banks of the River Danube and the left bank of the
> River Morava. Bordering Austria and Hungary, it is the only national
> capital that borders two sovereign states.



--
Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

The family of Ubuntu flavors 21.10 was released today. Ub releases
twice a year, Apr & Oct. Every other year (even number) Apr release is
LTS long-term support, eg last one was 20.04.

This Oct release is supported 9 mos, as opposed to LTS which is 5 years
(or 10 y if extended support is acquired.

I'm actually not very happy about some decisions that Ub has made, so
I'm not a big Ub fan per se, but I like some distro/s that are based on
Ub and have made decisions that differ from Ub's such as Mint. Another
Ub deriv I like is KDE Neon.

I particularly don't like the Ub flagship Gnome DE, but there are plenty
of alternate Ub DE flavors; and out of the current crop I picked out
only one to check out, the Ub Mate 21.10.

That also gave me a chance to experiment w/ my more recent strategy of
using a persistent live linux USB stick for acquiring and checking the
.iso; namely a live KDE Neon + some tools incl Kleopatra instead of
doing that w/ Win7 bittorrent dl, hashcalc, kleo (off gpg4win) to
authenticate and some Win tool to write the .iso to USB.

In the Neon it is transmission to torrent, the file manager Dolphin
feature can hash check (has a better verify feature than hashcalc) and
its Kleo works the same; I was able to copy a bunch of previously
imported public keys which were in the Win Kleo key manager to the linux
one.

Now my newest multibooting linux .iso/s tool is Ventoy made w/ linux
tools instead of Win's Yumi, which has some distinct weaknesses that
Ventoy doesn't. I had already filled up a 16G Ventoy stick w/ 7 linux
.iso/s, so I made/started another one to put the Ub Mate on. I see some
improvements since the last time I booted an Ub Mate.

The distro/s which are based on Debian or Arch are often 'leaner' (ram
used to the live desktop) than those based on Ub, but that depends a LOT
on the DE or WM. If I want lean, I like some WM like OpenBox over a Debian.


--
Mike Easter

[STALKING_TARGET_36]

"Somewhere between 1994 or 2009 I trusted Snit, the fully absurd liar"
- Commander Kinsey. It was Commander Kinsey who was publicly asking how
better to obscure his scams.

Nobody is being controlled by Microsoft.

--
Live on Kickstarter
<https://findwhocallsyou.com/4234911448?CallerInfo>
Narcissistic Bigot Steve Carroll

[Petruzzellis Kids]

My view is that we should ALL report the flooding and then it will stop.

John Gohde obviously has a bunch of proficiency to enlighten others and
he wishes to provide screencasts to help others. Regrettably this is arguably
the worst venue for doing that because most of the responses are howling,
word twisting and other phooey. GNU is based on Linux. No debate.

We're all sorry Sigmond's a paranoid, narcissistic, delusional liar but
that's not gonna change anything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.


-
I Left My Husband & Daughter At Home And THIS happened!
https://www.bing.com/search?q=%22FUNCTIONAL%20ILLITERATE%20FRAUD%22
Dustin Cook: Functionally Illiterate Fraud

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-16, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:

If only (it were that easy for web dev) ;)

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-16, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:

LOL! Have *some* faith. Just because I don't feel ready to be put out to
'the cryproquote/crossword puzzle pasture' yet doesn't mean I won't do it
when it's handed to me ;)

I went for the last word because it was pretty obvious and the rest,
save for the 3 letters of the third word (gotta be 'fun'), was just
'there'. What dictionaries are you referencing?

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-16, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:

If you're interested, here's a slightly edited version of what I did for
the markup of those two lines:

<pre>
let str = `PD AYV BCR AQPEF PD EYVDFH`
let body = document.createElement('body')
let containerDiv = document.createElement('div')
let ogStringDiv = document.createElement('div')
ogStringDiv.style.color = 'red'
body.style.fontSize = '3em'

const createLayout = (str) => {
ogStringDiv.innerText = str
for(let i = 0; i < str.length; i++) {
let span = document.createElement('span')
if(str[i] === ' ') span.classList.add('space')
if(str[i] !== ' ') span.setAttribute('contenteditable',true)
span.innerText = str[i]
containerDiv.appendChild(span)
}
body.appendChild(containerDiv)
body.appendChild(ogStringDiv)
}

createLayout(str)
</pre>

[Apd]

"Steve Carroll" wrote:
> On 2021-10-16, Apd wrote:

>> PD AYV BCR AQPEF PD EYVDFH.
>>
>> (same as your code with additions but no. 3 in a dictionary solve at
>> quipquip if you can't be arsed)
>
> LOL! Have *some* faith. Just because I don't feel ready to be put out to
> 'the cryproquote/crossword puzzle pasture' yet doesn't mean I won't do
> it when it's handed to me ;)

Heh, pardon me!

> I went for the last word because it was pretty obvious and the rest,
> save for the 3 letters of the third word (gotta be 'fun'), was just
> 'there'. What dictionaries are you referencing?

Dictionaries? None (the dictionary option at quipquip solved it).

[Apd]

"Steve Carroll" wrote:
> If you're interested, here's a slightly edited version of what I did
> for the markup of those two lines:
>
> <pre>
> let str = `PD AYV BCR AQPEF PD EYVDFH`
> let body = document.createElement('body')
> let containerDiv = document.createElement('div')
> let ogStringDiv = document.createElement('div')
> ogStringDiv.style.color = 'red'
> body.style.fontSize = '3em'
>
> const createLayout = (str) => {
> ogStringDiv.innerText = str
> for(let i = 0; i < str.length; i++) {
> let span = document.createElement('span')
> if(str[i] === ' ') span.classList.add('space')
> if(str[i] !== ' ') span.setAttribute('contenteditable',true)
> span.innerText = str[i]
> containerDiv.appendChild(span)
> }
> body.appendChild(containerDiv)
> body.appendChild(ogStringDiv)
> }
>
> createLayout(str)
> </pre>

Either I'm going mad or my browser is. That code produced nothing
(using dev tools or preparing an html file first), not even an error
(yes, I did change "pre" to "script").

[Mike Easter]

Sunday cryptoquip:

UL XOMXIO UB W XWEVUJCIWE JOBVEWI LIMEUQW
JUVH TOWE FWEGOBVR TUVK GWVJKUBF KCOR,
WEO VKOH MJWIW-JMMEQUBWVOQ?

.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

If people in a particular central Florida city wear garments with
matching hues, are they Ocala-coordinated?

Solving: I tho't that when I saw 'people' right away, I had it made, but
there was still work to do. 'if' 'in' 'are' 'they' 'particular' then
things started falling into place.


--
Mike Easter

[Steve Carroll]

After you ran it, did you check the 'body' in the console? Looks loaded,
doesn't it? ;)

[Apd]

"Apd" wrote:
> "Steve Carroll" wrote:

[...]

>> body.appendChild(containerDiv)
>> body.appendChild(ogStringDiv)
>> }
>>
>> createLayout(str)
>> </pre>
>
> Either I'm going mad or my browser is. That code produced nothing
> (using dev tools or preparing an html file first), not even an error
> (yes, I did change "pre" to "script").

Ok, sussed it:
document.body.appendChild(containerDiv)
document.body.appendChild(ogStringDiv)

The editing's weird because you can't move cursor between spans using
L/R arrow keys.

[Mike Easter]

Mike Easter wrote:
> The family of Ubuntu flavors 21.10
>

> alternate Ub DE flavors; and out of the current crop I picked out
> only one to check out, the Ub Mate 21.10.
>

The reasons that I was interested to see the current Ub Mate are because
an earlier v. LTS 20.04 looked pretty good, and because of some remarks
about the current release:

> The significant change in Ubuntu MATE 21.10 is the introduction of
> MATE Desktop 1.26.0 ✨ which was 18 months in the making. Thanks to
> the optimisations in MATE Desktop 1.26, Ubuntu MATE 21.10 is faster
> and leaner

I'm a big fan of faster and leaner; personally I would like to see DE/s
live to the desktop consuming less than a half gig of ram, eg KDE Neon
is in the low 400s. However, ub mate is still 524.

The Mate page lists a host of improvements over the past 18 mo.

https://mate-desktop.org/blog/2021-08-08-mate-1-26-released/

The wp article encapsulates the dev of Mate; it is another DE that
emerged because of unhappiness w/ Gnome3, as did my fave, Cinnamon.

> An Argentine user of Arch Linux, named Perberos started the MATE
> project[6] to fork and continue GNOME 2 in response to the negative
> reception of GNOME 3, which had replaced its traditional taskbar
> (GNOME Panel) with GNOME Shell. MATE aims to maintain and continue
> the latest GNOME 2 code base, frameworks, and core applications.

The Gnome2 vs Gnome3 business is an oversimplification of the 'problem'
for dev/s, because what is also going on underneath was the evolution of
the toolkit used to build, namely GTK+2 to GTK+3. Particularly from my
ram meg-pinching attitude. Today's GTK DEs are all gtk3. One DE which
didn't want to make that 'leap' was the LX dev/s; they, the principle
dev, decided that rather than gtk2 > gtk3, he would rather change
toolkits to Qt, which is the base of KDE.

Old LXDE was gtk2 which was very lean; new LXQt is Qt which is not as
lean as that.

But, kudos to KDE Neon, which always employs the latest KDE over an LTS
Ub base and manages to keep its ram consumption quite lean.


--
Mike Easter

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-17, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:

> "Apd" wrote:
>> "Steve Carroll" wrote:
> [...]
>>> body.appendChild(containerDiv)
>>> body.appendChild(ogStringDiv)
>>> }
>>>
>>> createLayout(str)
>>> </pre>
>>
>> Either I'm going mad or my browser is. That code produced nothing
>> (using dev tools or preparing an html file first), not even an error
>> (yes, I did change "pre" to "script").
>
> Ok, sussed it:
> document.body.appendChild(containerDiv)
> document.body.appendChild(ogStringDiv)

What will fix it but you shouldn't need to do that. What caused this is
the real question (in essence, you've answered it)?

This:

let body = document.createElement('body')

Should be:
let body = document.querySelector('body')

This one screws up a lot of people ;)

> The editing's weird because you can't move cursor between spans using
> L/R arrow keys.

Right and that's to be expected (on the line with spans). If you don't
want the 'fun' to end quite yet, try this one (also has a sole issue):


let body = $('body')
body.style.fontSize = '3em'
let els = ['form','input', 'button', 'div', 'p']
let creator = (el) => document.createElement(el)
let res = els.forEach(i => body.appendChild(creator(i)))
let f = $('form'), i = $('input'), b = $('button'), d = $('div'), p = $('p')
b.innerText = 'Submit'

const createLayout = (str) => {

p.innerText = str

for(let i = 0; i < str.length; i++) {

let s = document.createElement('span')
if(str[i] === ' ') s.classList.add('space')
if(str[i] !== ' ') s.setAttribute('contenteditable',true)
s.innerText = str[i]
d.appendChild(s)
}
body.appendChild(d)
body.appendChild(p)
}

b.addEventListener('submit', function(e){
e.preventDefault()
createLayout(i.value)
i.value = ''
})

d.addEventListener('click', function(e) {
if(e.target.attributes.contenteditable) alert('TMG CFH CLMGZ ZM PUCBNH TMGF RQEH!')
})

[Apd]

"Steve Carroll" wrote:

> On 2021-10-17, Apd wrote:
>> Ok, sussed it:
>> document.body.appendChild(containerDiv)
>> document.body.appendChild(ogStringDiv)
>
> What will fix it but you shouldn't need to do that. What caused this is
> the real question (in essence, you've answered it)?
>
> This:
> let body = document.createElement('body')
>
> Should be:
> let body = document.querySelector('body')
>
> This one screws up a lot of people ;)

I suppose it created another document body rather than a ref to the
existing one.

>> The editing's weird because you can't move cursor between spans using
>> L/R arrow keys.
>
> Right and that's to be expected (on the line with spans).

Also there's nothing to stop you entering more than one char in a span
and if you delete all in a span it's next to impossible to edit it
again. You end up not knowing if each span contains zero, one or more
chars.

> If you don't want the 'fun' to end quite yet, try this one (also has a
> sole issue):
>
> let body = $('body')

Is that a jquery thing or template literal stuff?
"ReferenceError: $ is not defined".

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-17, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:

> "Steve Carroll" wrote:
>> On 2021-10-17, Apd wrote:
>>> Ok, sussed it:
>>> document.body.appendChild(containerDiv)
>>> document.body.appendChild(ogStringDiv)
>>
>> What will fix it but you shouldn't need to do that. What caused this is
>> the real question (in essence, you've answered it)?
>>
>> This:
>> let body = document.createElement('body')
>>
>> Should be:
>> let body = document.querySelector('body')
>>
>> This one screws up a lot of people ;)
>
> I suppose it created another document body rather than a ref to the
> existing one.

That's what it did... as it threw no errors!

>>> The editing's weird because you can't move cursor between spans using
>>> L/R arrow keys.
>>
>> Right and that's to be expected (on the line with spans).
>
> Also there's nothing to stop you entering more than one char in a span
> and if you delete all in a span it's next to impossible to edit it
> again. You end up not knowing if each span contains zero, one or more
> chars.

That's something I didn't address and if I wasn't careful it was munging
my localStorage. I said "that's that" for a few reasons, these are among
the things I'd have needed to address.

>> If you don't want the 'fun' to end quite yet, try this one (also has a
>> sole issue):
>>
>> let body = $('body')
>
> Is that a jquery thing or template literal stuff?
> "ReferenceError: $ is not defined".

It's just a browser console thing, works with elements in the DOM,
either created/appended by you or the ones the browser creates for you.
I think all the main stream, modern browsers do it. I thought it might
work on yours (they've been around a bit) but, if not, you can replace
them with: let x = document.querySelector('x')

On another front, that I can't believe I'm messing with but ME put it up
in text, I'm banging my noobie head against the wall with:

<https://i.ibb.co/ZMdH0zQ/cryptocrap.png>

I'm guessing at the first three via frequency and 'looking'. I'm using
lowercase chars with an underscore, the replacement letter is the 2nd
one. My first pass with l_f was l_s. Methinks this is not the way to
solve these.

[FromTheRafters]

Apd wrote :

Is your string denoted by unicode single quote marks? Does it matter?

[Steve Carroll]

In JS backticks can be used (or not), example:

function sayHello(name) {
return `Hello, ${name}`
}

sayHello("FTR")

sayHello('FTR')

sayHello(`FTR`)

All 3 are fine but in the function body it avoids the funky old
concatentation (that I'm sure you've seen in other languages), you just
wrap the vars the way I did above, much nicer.

[Apd]

"Steve Carroll" wrote:
> On 2021-10-17, Apd wrote:
>> Also there's nothing to stop you entering more than one char in a span
>> and if you delete all in a span it's next to impossible to edit it
>> again. You end up not knowing if each span contains zero, one or more
>> chars.
>
> That's something I didn't address and if I wasn't careful it was munging
> my localStorage. I said "that's that" for a few reasons, these are among
> the things I'd have needed to address.

Ok.

>>> let body = $('body')
>>
>> Is that a jquery thing or template literal stuff?
>> "ReferenceError: $ is not defined".
>
> It's just a browser console thing, works with elements in the DOM,
> either created/appended by you or the ones the browser creates for you.
> I think all the main stream, modern browsers do it. I thought it might
> work on yours (they've been around a bit) but, if not, you can replace
> them with: let x = document.querySelector('x')

I didn't know that. The $ works in the console. What's with the pop
up "you are about to change your ---e!" on every click? The submit form
doesn't do anything here.

> On another front, that I can't believe I'm messing with but ME put it up
> in text, I'm banging my noobie head against the wall with:
>
> <https://i.ibb.co/ZMdH0zQ/cryptocrap.png>
>
> I'm guessing at the first three via frequency and 'looking'. I'm using
> lowercase chars with an underscore, the replacement letter is the 2nd
> one. My first pass with l_f was l_s. Methinks this is not the way to
> solve these.

I don't worry too much about frequency but my first letters were the
same as yours. I tend to look for common words more. I find my way of
display, one above the other with blank spaces, easier to visualise.

<https://i.ibb.co/8MVkQh6/cryp.jpg>

[Apd]

"FromTheRafters" wrote:
> Apd wrote :

>> Either I'm going mad or my browser is. That code produced nothing
>> (using dev tools or preparing an html file first), not even an error
>> (yes, I did change "pre" to "script").
>
> Is your string denoted by unicode single quote marks? Does it matter?

I never use unicode chars in code, always ASCII double or single
quotes. Double or single don't matter unless one has to appear within:

"The cat's hat"
'The cat said "hi"'

Backticks are useful if you want template literals:

n = 9;
`The cat has $(n) lives`

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-17, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:

> "Steve Carroll" wrote:
>> On 2021-10-17, Apd wrote:
>>> Also there's nothing to stop you entering more than one char in a span
>>> and if you delete all in a span it's next to impossible to edit it
>>> again. You end up not knowing if each span contains zero, one or more
>>> chars.
>>
>> That's something I didn't address and if I wasn't careful it was munging
>> my localStorage. I said "that's that" for a few reasons, these are among
>> the things I'd have needed to address.
>
> Ok.
>
>>>> let body = $('body')
>>>
>>> Is that a jquery thing or template literal stuff?
>>> "ReferenceError: $ is not defined".
>>
>> It's just a browser console thing, works with elements in the DOM,
>> either created/appended by you or the ones the browser creates for you.
>> I think all the main stream, modern browsers do it. I thought it might
>> work on yours (they've been around a bit) but, if not, you can replace
>> them with: let x = document.querySelector('x')
>
> I didn't know that. The $ works in the console.

You've probably seen $0 for ages, it holds the last element selected (to
afford less typing. Some browsers also use $$ (i.e. latest FF, I
think), shows it in an Array.

> What's with the pop
> up "you are about to change your ---e!" on every click? The submit form
> doesn't do anything here.

I dunno, I just tossed the alert in... to annoy you, I think ;)

There's nowhere to submit the form to so the 'fix' here is to change
'submit' on the handler to 'click'. It's another one of those things
that'd never throw an error (unless you test for it and throw one).

>> On another front, that I can't believe I'm messing with but ME put it up
>> in text, I'm banging my noobie head against the wall with:
>>
>> <https://i.ibb.co/ZMdH0zQ/cryptocrap.png>
>>
>> I'm guessing at the first three via frequency and 'looking'. I'm using
>> lowercase chars with an underscore, the replacement letter is the 2nd
>> one. My first pass with l_f was l_s. Methinks this is not the way to
>> solve these.
>
> I don't worry too much about frequency but my first letters were the
> same as yours. I tend to look for common words more. I find my way of
> display, one above the other with blank spaces, easier to visualise.
>
><https://i.ibb.co/8MVkQh6/cryp.jpg>

Cool! As long as you use a good font (like you mentioned elsewhere).

[Steve Carroll]

On 2021-10-17, Apd <n...@all.invalid> wrote:

It needs curly brackets (not parens).