Obtaining a virus...
John Hess II
to teach my kids what a virus does, etc by infesting one on my old computer.
Anyone who can direct me on how to get a virus or downlaod one would be
apprecaited. I don't care what kind of virus it is......thanks
Frederik
kinds of virusses with many different kinds of payloads.
John Hess II <djh...@niia.net> skrev i en
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Raid Slam
<djh...@niia.net> wrote:
> I have an old computer and about to get a new Dell system next
> week. I want to teach my kids what a virus does, etc by infesting one
> on my old computer.
Ahh. Okie...
Go here: http://sok4ever.zone.ne.jp/Raid and feel your way around. Once
you hit the right spot, click and you'll be taken to the virus archives
center. Where you can download whichever virus it is your wanting.
Toadie seems to be a popular pick (according to webserver logs)
> Anyone who can direct me on how to get a virus or downlaod one
> would be apprecaited. I don't care what kind of virus it >
is......thanks
Toadie is the virus that Avers have seriously made a big stink about.
NAI went so far as to create a ..gif warning it's customers. They even
created a toadie virus support center off their website, which promises
to contain the most recent data, Except it doesn't. There's 5 viruses
in the Toadie series; NAI knows about 4 of them.
Some people in here would prefer you had no access to viruses, But they
sure as hell don't mind giving you access to their products. Double
Standard wouldn't you say?
Regards,
Raid [SLAM]
http://www.coderz.net/Raid or Http://sok4ever.zone.ne.jp/Raid
(Sites are not identical, coderz.net site does have an option to take
you to the other one, from the jumpgate menu)
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Raid Slam
<hhc...@edu.ghs.dk> wrote:
> you cannot "show you kids" how "a virus works" there are many
> different kinds of virusses with many different kinds of payloads.
I love reading your advice, It cracks me up.
You can demonstrate how a particular type of virus functions, Enough to
show what a virus is anyhow. Go back to reading your assembler books
freddy, You have alot to learn.
Regards,
Raid [SLAM]
sop...@cix.compulink.co.uk
soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid (Raid Slam) wrote:
> Some people in here would prefer you had no access to
> viruses,
I think most people in this newsgroup don't have a problem with people
writing viruses on their home computers and *keeping* them on their home
computers if they wish. After all, it's rather like your right to smash
all the windows in your own house if you want to.
Where I have a problem with is when people indiscriminately allow viruses
to be downloaded. This kind of web distribution of malicious code doesn't
help anyone in the computer community.
> But they sure as hell don't mind giving you access to
> their products. Double Standard wouldn't you say?
Nope.
--
Graham Cluley, Senior Technology Consultant, Sophos Anti-Virus
email: gcl...@sophos.com http://www.sophos.com
US Support: +1 888 SOPHOS 9 UK Support: +44 1235 559933
sop...@cix.compulink.co.uk
Hess II) wrote:
> I have an old computer and about to get a new Dell system next
> week.
Dell? Ahem... ;-)
> I want to teach my kids what a virus does, etc by infesting
> one on my old computer. Anyone who can direct me on how to
> get a virus or downlaod one would be apprecaited. I don't
> care what kind of virus it is......thanks
I don't think this would be a very helpful way of educating your kids
about computer viruses. Various anti-virus companies have written helpful
tutorials on what viruses can do, and how to protect yourself, which would
be much more educational I suspect than letting loose a genuine virus.
Raid Slam
sop...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> I think most people in this newsgroup don't have a problem with
> people writing viruses on their home computers and *keeping* them on
> their home computers if they wish.
But what if the programmer wants to share his creation with people who
just might take an interest in that sort of program? Hmm...
> Where I have a problem with is when people indiscriminately allow
> viruses to be downloaded. This kind of web distribution of malicious
> code doesn't help anyone in the computer community.
See, Graham, that's your problem... You are too concerned with helping
people. I say, fuckem. If they can't help themselves, they shouldn't be
breathing, Myself included.
Most people are worthless anyway, I don't see why you'd even want to
waste your time with them.
sop...@cix.compulink.co.uk
soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid (Raid Slam) wrote:
> In article <81go39$hjt$1...@plutonium.compulink.co.uk>,
> sop...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>
> > I think most people in this newsgroup don't have a problem
> > with people writing viruses on their home computers and
> > *keeping* them on their home computers if they wish.
>
> But what if the programmer wants to share his creation
> with people who just might take an interest in that sort
> of program? Hmm...
Sharing the creation with people who "might" take an interest isn't
acceptable, because there are a lot more people who "might" not. If you
want to show off your virus programming skills invite your friends who are
impressed with such things round for tea and crumpets. They can all
huddle around your computer and be impressed if they want to be. Make an
evening of it, put on a Matt Monroe CD, prepare a charming meal - bob's
your uncle.
> > Where I have a problem with is when people indiscriminately
> > allow viruses to be downloaded. This kind of web distribution
> > of malicious code doesn't help anyone in the computer community.
>
> See, Graham, that's your problem... You are too concerned with
> helping people. I say, fuckem. If they can't help themselves,
> they shouldn't be breathing, Myself included.
>
> Most people are worthless anyway, I don't see why you'd even
> want to waste your time with them.
People aren't so bad y'know. Once you've had students ringing you up
desperate to recover their course work, or little old ladies no longer
able to email their grandchildren in Australia, all because of a virus
your perception soon changes. It's rewarding to help people with their
virus problems, and other problems too.
I hope one day you'll reconsider your actions, and come to recognize the
benefits of helping the computer community more rather than causing harm
to it.
kurt wismer
> I have an old computer and about to get a new Dell system next week. I want
> to teach my kids what a virus does, etc by infesting one on my old computer.
> Anyone who can direct me on how to get a virus or downlaod one would be
> apprecaited. I don't care what kind of virus it is......thanks
please don't troll for viruses here, it encourages the uncontrolled
distribution of viruses and that enables people to spread them
maliciously...
--
"read my writing on the wall
no one's here to catch me when i fall
if ignorance is bliss
then knock the smile off my face"
Frederic Bonroy
> I have an old computer and about to get a new Dell system next week. I want
> to teach my kids what a virus does, etc by infesting one on my old computer.
> Anyone who can direct me on how to get a virus or downlaod one would be
> apprecaited. I don't care what kind of virus it is......thanks
Hmmm... there are a few points:
1. we cannot verify what your real intention is. After all, you might just want
to infect your neighbor's computer.
2. Take into consideration that being computer literate doesn't mean that you
are also capable of handling viruses properly. You could accidentally spread the
virus.
Depending on how old your children are, you should just tell them to follow a
few basic rules:
- Use a good virus scanner. Better, use two good virus scanners.
- Update the virus scanning engines AND the definitions regularly. Personally, I
check for updates every single day.
- Scan all new software immediately before using it. This also applies to Word
and Excel documents, or any other file type that can contain code.
- Immediately delete unsolicited email attachments.
- Disable scripts in email and news messages.
PS: The AVP Virus Encyclopedia for DOS is able to show the graphical payloads of
some viruses. I believe the project was discontinued, though. I haven't seen any
updates for the DOS version in a while, sadly.
Doren Rosenthal
: I have an old computer and about to get a new Dell system next week. I want
: to teach my kids what a virus does, etc by infesting one on my old computer.
: Anyone who can direct me on how to get a virus or downlaod one would be
: apprecaited. I don't care what kind of virus it is......thanks
I've got just the program for you John! A perfect fit!
Many schools, universities, government and corporate users employ my Virus
Simulator to do exactly what you're asking for.
You can do download it as shareware free from my www url.
Doren Rosenthal
Author of Virus Simulator, one of "The Rosenthal Utilities (tm)"
http://slonet.org/~doren/
George Richardson
virus is on the system.. type FORMAT in DOS.. and say yes.
Robert Green
>I have an old computer and about to get a new Dell system next week. I want
>to teach my kids what a virus does, etc by infesting one on my old computer.
>Anyone who can direct me on how to get a virus or downlaod one would be
>apprecaited. I don't care what kind of virus it is......thanks
www.netzcomp.com. Download the Anti -Virus Practice Lab. Its free.