Norman De Forest - sad news
Ant
Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
literally has helped thousands of people, both through Chebucto and
the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
true extent of his caring..."
http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
Art
Wow. A shock. Sad news indeed. Goodbye Norman. We'll miss your
intelligence and goodness.
James Egan
>"It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman De Forest ...
A sad day indeed. A very knowledgeable and highly respected
contributor to acv. His postings will be greatly missed.
Jim.
SneakyP
Sorry to not know about his circumstances. His posts will be missed.
--
SneakyP
To reply: newsgroup only, what's posted in ng stays in ng.
Some choose to swim in the potty bowl of nan-ae rather than flush it
down :0)
Matthew Sullivan
That's a damn shame. Yet another highly respected member of our community
passing from this plain. RIP Norman you will be missed.
Mat
David H. Lipman
Sh!t !!
That's a complete shock and I'm quite dismayed at the news. His persepective, POV and
insight in a.c.v will be *greatly* missed !
Indeed, this is very sad news :-(
Thank you Ant for bringing this to out attention.
--
Dave
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http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
David Cary Hart
and the Internet community have lost someone who made a difference.
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Mark Ferguson
Party and then rest Norman.
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automacro
half ago - delivered a bottle of Dave's Hot Sauce to him. He'd brought
along an emtpy can of SPAM (the Hormel variety) and we snapped a pic.
Our quick half-hour meeting turned into a two hour chat covering
everything from esoteric print functions to housing for the homeless to
the damage that spammers were doing to the Internet. Norman's computer
equipment was, to be kind, archaic: cobbled together bits and pieces of
outdated stuff. He seemed to find that an amusing challenge rather than
a problem.
An interesting, complex, clever, helpful man.
The entire Net community has lost a kindly spirit.
-otto
Roger Bryant
12:55 PM:
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Test, Jamie, Test.
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Clay
Sad news indeed.
Goodbye Norman. You will truly be missed.
--
Clay mania dot com
Rev. Beergoggles
Quite a lot of writing on his site. Didn't know him that well.
RIP Norman, Say hello to Doug and the crew.
--
rbg
Kevin Mr. Harwer Filan
RIP, Norman. You will be missed.
Peace
Kevin Filan
Patricia A. Shaffer
Oh, no! He had such a great sense of humor, along with a wealth of
knowledge which he shared lavishly. I shall miss him a lot.
--
Patricia
Proud Citizen of the Commonwealth of Virginia
Morely Dotes
> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
Ah, damn.
--
We'll miss you, Norman.
http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
optikl
always sad when the truly kind pass on.
Rory McBentley
news:ds0g00$vjr$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk:
> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
Time.
terry l. ridder
norman, was one of a handful of people who helped me deal with and come
to terms with the multiple physical challenges as the result of a work
accident in 1996. he encouraged me not to give up on physical therapy
when the pain seemed unbearable. i will miss him very much.
>
>
--
terry l. ridder ><>
Rich Clark, aka Left Rev Egg Plant, ULC, CotSG
> "Ant" <n...@home.today> wrote in news:ds0g00$vjr$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk:
>
>
>>"It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
>> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
>> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
>> literally has helped thousands of people, both through Chebucto and
>> the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
>> kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
>> true extent of his caring..."
>>
>>http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
>
>
> Ah, damn.
>
>
Yep, it fucking sucks. Norm was one of the posters here that I always
read because he was sane amongst the insane. Most of the posts here
have degenerated into kookbait; his never went there.
yukio
We are diminished with your passing, Norman.
Best to you - wherever you are.
Etaoin Shrdlu
> Like most truly generous people, he
> kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
> true extent of his caring..."
At least, where he is now, he won’t have to contend with spammers…
--
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To e-mail me KEEP THE ".nospam" portion of my address!!!!
The rules of spam: http://etaoin.zapto.org#rules
Have you hugged a cat today???
Marc Bissonnette
news:Xns975F9AFC7D213mo...@216.99.211.247:
> "Ant" <n...@home.today> wrote in news:ds0g00$vjr$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk:
>
>> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
>> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
>> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
>> literally has helped thousands of people, both through Chebucto and
>> the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
>> kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
>> true extent of his caring..."
>>
>> http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
>
> Ah, damn.
Yeah, my thought, too.
Though I never met him in person, I've read his content a lot, especially
during my tenure at the toronto freenet. He affected a lot more people than
he ever knew. Hopefully, he'll have a big smile on his face, now that he's
in a place where he'll find out just how much good he did in life.
God speed your soul, Mr De Forest.
Marc Bissonnette
Bobby A.
wrote:
>"It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
> literally has helped thousands of people, both through Chebucto and
> the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
> kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
> true extent of his caring..."
>
>http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
>
Damn. One of the few posters to nanae whose posts I actually looked
forward to reading. Always a voice of reason amid the chaos &
kookiness.
Godspeed, Norman. Say "Hey" to Gary G. for me.
--
Bobby A.
Usenetonly is a spamtrap. Use junkcollector instead.
m...@tadyatam.invalid
news:ds0g00$vjr$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk:
> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away
> of
> Norman De Forest ...
>
RIP Norman -- you'll be missed.
J
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Steve Baker
>It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
>Norman De Forest
RIP, Norman. You were one of the classiest guys to ever grace Usenet
with your contributions. I'll miss you, and although they don't realize
it, many folks who never even heard of you will be missing a lot because
you're not around anymore.
Thanks.
Steve Baker
Heather
"Ant" <n...@home.today> wrote in message
news:ds0g00$vjr$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
> literally has helped thousands of people, both through Chebucto and
> the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
> kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
> true extent of his caring..."
He will be sorely missed. I am sorry I never got to know him
personally. To me, the sign of a *caring person* is one who does good
for others, yet tells no one.
Heather
Buss Error
>"It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
> literally has helped thousands of people, both through Chebucto and
> the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
> kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
> true extent of his caring..."
>
>http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
>
Cio, Norman. You are already missed.
Mike Spencer
>> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
>> Norman De Forest
Aw, damn. We were neighbors [1], too. I always figured sooner or
later I'd meet up with him on some run into Halifax. And now I
won't. Damn.
[1] Seventy-five miles but neighbors.[2]
[2] What would Norman's on-line wake be without a few footnotes? [3]
[3] That have their own footnotes, of course. RIP Norman.
--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
Marcus Aurelius
> Norman had his own share of life's problems but you would never know
> it. NANAE and the Internet community have lost someone who made a
> difference.
Exactly - I never knew his circumstances, he never gave any indication
of them.
A sad day indeed.
--
MA
Ian Kenefick
>"It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
> literally has helped thousands of people, both through Chebucto and
> the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
> kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
> true extent of his caring..."
>
>http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
>
It's never a nice thing to find out about the passing of a truely
caring personality. But there is some comfort to be gotten from the
kind thoughts floating around in usenet in light of this terrible
news.
Rest in Piece Norman.
--
Regards,
Ian Kenefick
http://www.ik-cs.com
http://www.multi-av.com
Mainly Demonic
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Ant wrote:
> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
I had seen his postings for a long time before I
knew of his circumstances. You would never have
guessed it in a million years. Norman is the
poster child for making the best out of extreme
circunstances.
His pearls of wisdom and willingness to help
are simply irreplaceable. He gave so much to
so many. He was a prolific poster on spaml
as well as NANAE for many years.
God has a top spam consultant now and one
that will keep him ROTFL for eternity.
Send him back!
>:->
}---
If cows say "moo"[1] why don't moose say "cow"?
[1] Do Buddhist cows say "mu"?
-- Norman De Forest
Patricia A. Shaffer
<m...@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
Aside from his famous footnoted footnotes, on August 13, 2000, Norman
gave us an anacronym which has become a familiar part of NANAE:
YADATROT - Yet Another Desperate Attempt To Remain On Topic.
basalt...@gmail.com
Sad news, yes.
I will miss you Mr. De Forest.
(((((((( Norman ))))))))
Marcus Aurelius
> Aside from his famous footnoted footnotes, on August 13, 2000, Norman
> gave us an anacronym which has become a familiar part of NANAE:
> YADATROT - Yet Another Desperate Attempt To Remain On Topic.
I'd argue that the use of YADATROT has spread far and wide, well beyond
NANAE.
http://www.google.com/search?q=YADATROT
Looks like the author of a page high up in those search results reads
NANAE...
--
MA
Sulu
news:Pine.WNT.4.56.0602042214060.-561579@oemcomputer:
> On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Ant wrote:
>
>> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
>> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
>> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
>
>
> I had seen his postings for a long time before I
> knew of his circumstances. You would never have
> guessed it in a million years. Norman is the
> poster child for making the best out of extreme
> circunstances.
>
> His pearls of wisdom and willingness to help
> are simply irreplaceable. He gave so much to
> so many. He was a prolific poster on spaml
> as well as NANAE for many years.
>
> God has a top spam consultant now and one
> that will keep him ROTFL for eternity.
>
> Send him back!
As I understand the game, God is a white hat
There are no warnings, no second chances.
You only get one chance, one trip around the block, to learn from Norman.
Then, if you do wish to honor his memory, its your turn to do what he
taught you, that was most precious to him and now you.
Sulu
>>:->
> }---
>
> If cows say "moo"[1] why don't moose say "cow"?
I saw this uncharacteristic to NANAE question at the time and pondered
upon it, while jokes are funny that is usually because they hide/carry
the Truth. My best guess at an answer would be
Because life is not a naturally a fair game?
Mr. Uh Clem
> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
> the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
> kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
> true extent of his caring..."
>
> http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
>
>
Norman will certainly be missed. He had riches where it
counted and he shared them with us. A lot of his wisdom
will live on in the archives. I hope his web pages will
be preserved. http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/Profile.html
--
Clem
"If you push something hard enough, it will fall over."
- Fudd's first law of opposition
glgxg
> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
> literally has helped thousands of people, both through Chebucto and
> the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
> kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
> true extent of his caring..."
>
> http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
>
>
RIP Norman. May they send you with your tools; a formated floppy and
your favorite computer manual.
Say hi to Gary Grossoehme (Gary G.) and Charles Oriez (Socks, the
Whitehouse Cat)... I reckon there will be plenty for the three of you to
talk about.
http://beacon.chebucto.info/Content-2006/norman.html
<quote>
People have asked about a memorial for Norman De Forest. He wasn't
religious, his charity came from within himself and if you are one of
the people who have been touched by his charity, then my advice is to
pay it forward. Do something good. Volunteer. There is no shortage of
need out there.
</quote>
Anonymous
Ian Kenefick wrote...
>
> It's never a nice thing to find out about the passing of a truely
> caring personality. But there is some comfort to be gotten from the
> kind thoughts floating around in usenet in light of this terrible
> news.
>
> Rest in Piece Norman.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Ian Kenefick
> http://www.ik-cs.com
> http://www.multi-av.com
Kind thoughts, or "spin" from self promoting hypocrites?
I did never know Norman De Forest so I feel no more sadness at his death than at the death of any stranger, but as a committed Christian working with the poor I was saddened to read that the last years of his life were spent in extreme poverty.
Poverty and hunger are common in Serbia since the war, much more than our government and our churches can deal with, but that is our lot, and we do what we can to help. However it is a great shame that any man has to live in such conditions in a wealthy country like the United States of America.
The greater shame is N.A.N.A.E. hypocrites who claim they were his friends and promote themselves as caring people, expressing
sadness at his death after doing nothing to help him while he lived.
Kovacs
Mark Ferguson
<anon-b...@deuxpi.ca> wrote:
>
>Ian Kenefick wrote...
>>
>> It's never a nice thing to find out about the passing of a truely
>> caring personality. But there is some comfort to be gotten from the
>> kind thoughts floating around in usenet in light of this terrible
>> news.
>>
>> Rest in Piece Norman.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Ian Kenefick
>> http://www.ik-cs.com
>> http://www.multi-av.com
Out of respect for Jim, Gary, Charles and Norman I will be polite.
Norman live in Nova Scotia not the US. He was also a kind human being
and does not deserve for anybody to answer this post with vitrol and
venom.
Out of respect I will refrain from was you are requesting, a flame war
in this tribute to Norman.
I love even you Moris and I am sure had Jim known you, you would have
been turned from your ways to the good side. Had you truly known
Norman you would have been one of the good guys.
Go in peace and love Moris.
>Kind thoughts, or "spin" from self promoting hypocrites?
>
>I did never know Norman De Forest so I feel no more sadness at his death than at the death of any stranger, but as a committed Christian working with the poor I was saddened to read that the last years of his life were spent in extreme poverty.
>
>Poverty and hunger are common in Serbia since the war, much more than our government and our churches can deal with, but that is our lot, and we do what we can to help. However it is a great shame that any man has to live in such conditions in a wealthy country like the United States of America.
>
>The greater shame is N.A.N.A.E. hypocrites who claim they were his friends and promote themselves as caring people, expressing
>sadness at his death after doing nothing to help him while he lived.
>
>Kovacs
--
Mark Ferguson
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BEI Design
Ant wrote:
> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme
> poverty, Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances
> and he quite literally has helped thousands of people, both
> through Chebucto and the internet and in real life. Like most
> truly generous people, he kept his charity to himself and it is
> likely nobody alive knows the true extent of his caring..."
>
> http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
Oh! How sad! Norman very generously e-mailed me privately when I
first stumbled into NANAE, and ever so gently educated me about my
erroneous conclusion that NANAE was "HipCrime". I came to "know" him
both on and off the group. I'll miss his kindness, erudition, and
humor more than I can say. Peace, Norman!
Beverly
Beverly
Quaestor
>RIP Norman. May they send you with your tools; a formated floppy and
>your favorite computer manual.
>
>Say hi to Gary Grossoehme (Gary G.) and Charles Oriez (Socks, the
>Whitehouse Cat)... I reckon there will be plenty for the three of you to
>talk about.
>
>
They say the streets of heaven are paved with spammer nads. (sure
would take a lot of them)
--
Godwin is a net-nazi
Learn about spam: http://www.seige-perilous.org/spam/spam.html
nobody
>
> Kind thoughts, or "spin" from self promoting hypocrites?
>
> I did never know Norman De Forest so I feel no more sadness at his death than at the death of any stranger, but as a committed Christian working with the poor I was saddened to read that the last years of his life were spent in extreme poverty.
>
> Poverty and hunger are common in Serbia since the war, much more than our government and our churches can deal with, but that is our lot, and we do what we can to help. However it is a great shame that any man has to live in such conditions in a wealthy country like the United States of America.
>
> The greater shame is N.A.N.A.E. hypocrites who claim they were his friends and promote themselves as caring people, expressing
> sadness at his death after doing nothing to help him while he lived.
>
> Kovacs
You are very wrong. Norm *did not want* what you call help. He had what
he wanted in life; and lived a full life without a lot of the trappings
(how appropriate that word sounds when seen in this light) of a busy
life chasing the buck .
Mr. Uh Clem
> RIP Norman. May they send you with your tools; a formated floppy and
> your favorite computer manual.
>
> Say hi to Gary Grossoehme (Gary G.) and Charles Oriez (Socks, the
> Whitehouse Cat)... I reckon there will be plenty for the three of you to
> talk about.
>
> http://beacon.chebucto.info/Content-2006/norman.html
> <quote>
> People have asked about a memorial for Norman De Forest. He wasn't
> religious, his charity came from within himself and if you are one of
> the people who have been touched by his charity, then my advice is to
> pay it forward. Do something good. Volunteer. There is no shortage of
> need out there.
> </quote>
>
That deserves a full quote:
A Tribute to Norman De Forest
Norman De Forest's life was so diverse and busy that it does not lend
itself easily to any kind of summation. Let me tell you the bits of it I
know.
Most people's introduction to Norman came from writing an email to
userhelp at Chebucto and having Norman write back with several pages of
detailed instructions to resolve the problem and pass on some of the
problem's historical context or amusing trivia about the problem.
And that's how I came to know him too.
I first met Norman in person months after seeing his name on countless
userhelp answers. He'd be in the Second Cup waiting like the rest of us
poor folks for a bit of time on the then only public graphical internet
access in Halifax. I'd run into him from time to time at the local
science fiction bookstore and we'd trade recommendations.
Then I got into a jam. I'd borrowed a set of MS-DOS install disks to use
on my computer but they did not work, the disks were infected with a
virus. I couldn't give back the disks infected and nothing would clean
them off. I didn't know if I had infected them or they'd come to me that
way, but it didn't matter, I could not afford to replace them.
I brought the disks to Norman. The disks were for MS-DOS 6.20, a rare
variety as a lost lawsuit had required Microsoft to change the software.
Norman disappeared for several days then handed me the disks and a six
inch high stack of dot matrix printer paper detailing the steps he'd
taken to fix them, in case I wanted to check his work or undo it.
Norman was like that with everyone. If someone had a problem, they got
back double the solution they'd expected. It was almost a vice with
Norman that if you asked him a question in person you'd better be
prepared for an extended answer.
Norman was a champion of disabled access to the internet and would take
it on himself to plead their case to those websites not accessible to
disabled persons. His help was not limited to online letter-writing,
Norman worked with individuals directly, freely donating his time and
resources.
He was a premier anti-spam fighter and worked with many others around
the globe to battle the endless waves of rubbish sent out. In the early
days of spam, you could sometimes reply directly to the spammer. One of
his dodges was to reply to pornographic spam as a child, saying that he
didn't think his mommy and daddy would approve.
Norman was always working to better himself, from the mounds of computer
books that filled his room to working on logic puzzles. I gave him a
DOS-based logic game called Sherlock once. It's a game where there are
six columns of six icons, each of the icons having six possible values.
There's six faces, six different color houses, six fruit, six numbers,
six highway signs and six letters. You're given a number of clues about
the icons and then must deduce the correct locations for all thirty six
icons. There are 65,000 different games and Norman played them all, even
discovering one where the clues were deceptive. When this wasn't enough
he made his own icons out of random geometric shapes and played the game
again. I tried playing it with his new icons and it was many times more
difficult. Norman's games page.
Norman was the head of Chebucto Userhelp, a member of the Technical and
Policy Committees on Chebucto and was several times honoured at the
Chebucto AGM for his volunteer contributions. It is safe to say that
Norman has helped hundreds, even thousands of people over the last decade.
For all his good work Norman lived in extreme poverty of the type very
few people who have not experienced it for themselves can imagine. He
lived in a run-down two room flat with flickering lights and a leaky
ceiling that frequently came down in chunks, piled high with textbooks
and novels, shelves full to spilling with books, floppy disk archives
and computer parts. The guest chair was a stack of computer texts you
would balance on with just enough empty floor room to form paths to the
room's various points of interest. The tv was a black and white portable
with broken rabbit ears that got two and a half local stations. Norman's
computers were always bottom of the line; for two years he did not even
have a hard drive but relied on a ramdisk, frequently losing hours of
work at a go when the lights flickered and the computer rebooted. People
would give Norman better computers but he was always worried about
messing with them, an odd attitude for a tech wizard, and he would keep
using whatever basic gear he was most comfortable with. He would sit at
his computer and chainsmoke rollie cigarettes and drink instant coffee
mixed with hot tap water then fall asleep where he worked and pick up
where he left off when he awoke. He was scrupulously honest: he was
proud of paying the shareware fees for any software he used and liked.
His integrity even lent itself to a little thing like not giving away
the secret to me of how to wave a dead chicken, a rite of passage in the
tech world where a new user is supposed to figure out on their own the
magical trick to post to a particular moderated news group. It took me
days of trying to manage it and Norman was mum about it the whole time,
as he was supposed to be.
What I'm most going to miss about Norman is his wisdom and perspective.
Here at Chebucto there are sometimes differences of opinion on the best
way to do things but Norman could always be counted on to give a cogent
and even-tempered analysis of the situation. He would always remind us
that there were - and still are - lots of people being left out of this
brave new digital world we are building for ourselves and that Chebucto
Community Net was one of the few bridges remaining for those left back.
I am one of the people who successfully crossed this bridge and I owe
part of that to Norman De Forest.
- Andrew D. Wright
4 February 2006
Addendum
People have asked about a memorial for Norman De Forest. He wasn't
religious, his charity came from within himself and if you are one of
the people who have been touched by his charity, then my advice is to
pay it forward. Do something good. Volunteer. There is no shortage of
need out there.
Norman's web site
Beacon news story
Back to the Beacon
Second Addendum
The Tributes of Others
Date: 4 Feb 2006 14:40:16 -0500
From: Neil Schwartzman
To: cauce-canada-announce
Subject: R.I.P. Norman De Forest
Longtime anti-spammer and CAUCE Canada member Norman De Forest has
passed away.
There is a short eulogy here: http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
Mr. De Forest will be sorely missed. In all my dealings with Norman, he
was always kind, his comments well-considered, and most helpful and
wise. The Canadian and indeed the world anti-spam communities are poorer
for his death.
On behalf of CAUCE Canada I wish to express our sincere condolences to
Norman's family and friends.
-- Neil Schwartzman
Chair, Canadian Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email
http://www.cauce.ca/
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:56:18 -0800
From: Keith Christensen
Subject: Any online memorials planned for Mr de Forest? (I'll always
remember him as Norm... )
Norm was a constant source of humor as well as wisdom to those of us who
battle spam.
To me he was also a fellow boffin in the true British sense.
We were both self-taught electronics nuts with some lack of social
graces; "stone age geeks"; and war-story swappers.
We surprised each other that there were still people who could fathom
transconductance and pentodes; valves to Norm and tubes to me.
I'll miss him.
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:55:15 -0500
From: Sam
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus, news.admin.net-abuse.email
Subject: Re: Norman De Forest - sad news
Oh, dear.
Norman was one of those people who -- although I, and many others, never
met in person -- was always able to express the warmness of his heart
through his written words. He will be missed. God bless him.
Google Groups news.admin.net-abuse.email
optikl
> Anonymous wrote:
>
>>
>> Kind thoughts, or "spin" from self promoting hypocrites?
>>
>> I did never know Norman De Forest so I feel no more sadness at his
>> death than at the death of any stranger, but as a committed Christian
>> working with the poor I was saddened to read that the last years of
>> his life were spent in extreme poverty.
>> Poverty and hunger are common in Serbia since the war, much more than
>> our government and our churches can deal with, but that is our lot,
>> and we do what we can to help. However it is a great shame that any
>> man has to live in such conditions in a wealthy country like the
>> United States of America.
Jackass, he did not live in the U.S.A. He lived in Canada. Not that it
makes that much difference. I feel for your conditions in Serbia, but
let's not make this a political forum, alright?
>>
>> The greater shame is N.A.N.A.E. hypocrites who claim they were his
>> friends and promote themselves as caring people, expressing sadness at
>> his death after doing nothing to help him while he lived.
>> Kovacs
>
Why don't you take the money you waste on your internet connection and
give that to your church?
Cadbury Moose
>
> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman De Forest ...
<sigh>
Norman was one of lifes true gentlemen and this is a sad loss to
the internet community.
3:O(>
Norman, if you're reading this (and the other postings), you're
probably getting some ide of the esteem in which we hold you.
Thanks for all your help in the past,...
Cadbury Moose.
--
"There are some complaints that money can't buy. For everything else,
there's BastardCard. Accepted everywhere, especially with mallets."
-- Inquisitor in nan-ae
Mark Ferguson
<optik-m...@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> Anonymous wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Kind thoughts, or "spin" from self promoting hypocrites?
>>>
>>> I did never know Norman De Forest so I feel no more sadness at his
>>> death than at the death of any stranger, but as a committed Christian
>>> working with the poor I was saddened to read that the last years of
>>> his life were spent in extreme poverty.
>>> Poverty and hunger are common in Serbia since the war, much more than
>>> our government and our churches can deal with, but that is our lot,
>>> and we do what we can to help. However it is a great shame that any
>>> man has to live in such conditions in a wealthy country like the
>>> United States of America.
>
>Jackass, he did not live in the U.S.A. He lived in Canada. Not that it
>makes that much difference. I feel for your conditions in Serbia, but
>let's not make this a political forum, alright?
And Norman would not appreciate you losing your temper over him like
this. Moris is what Moris is and in the end we have only the control
we exercise over ourselves and our own actions and reactions.
>>> The greater shame is N.A.N.A.E. hypocrites who claim they were his
>>> friends and promote themselves as caring people, expressing sadness at
>>> his death after doing nothing to help him while he lived.
>>> Kovacs
>>
>
>Why don't you take the money you waste on your internet connection and
>give that to your church?
That would make Norman happy.
Rob Skedgell
> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
> literally has helped thousands of people, both through Chebucto and
> the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
> kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
> true extent of his caring..."
>
> http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
There is little or nothing I can add to what others have said on hearing
this sad news, but like many others I always found his posts here and
on SPAM-L a pleasure to read.
--
Rob Skedgell <rob+...@nephelococcygia.demon.co.uk>
GnuPG/PGP: 7DA3 1579 C0DD 8748 C05A B984 E2A2 3234 D14B 6DD7
R. Scott
> this sad news, but like many others I always found his posts here and
> on SPAM-L a pleasure to read.
Of all the different voices in NANAE his was the most sane.
He will be missed.
Morely Dotes
i...@comcast.com:
> Why don't you take the money you waste on your internet connection and
> give that to your church?
(To the spammer:)
Yes, and when you've finished that, shove your modem up your ass. Sideways.
Follow it with your computer, monitor, and anythign else electronic you can
find.
Then go plug them into the neart 220VAC electric outlet.
--
Tired of spam in your mailbox?
Come to http://www.spamblocked.com
Who is Brad Jesness? http://www.wilhelp.com/bj_faq/
Soldering irons are known to be unpleasantly hot at the tip.
Etaoin Shrdlu
> Norman, if you're reading this (and the other postings), you're
> probably getting some ide of the esteem in which we hold you.
> Thanks for all your help in the past,...
It’s too bad that only spammers get to know in which esteem we hold them
while they’re alive.
Of course, the solution to this problem is to kill spammers...
--
My little NANAE hangout: http://etaoin.zapto.org
To e-mail me KEEP THE ".nospam" portion of my address!!!!
The rules of spam: http://etaoin.zapto.org#rules
Have you hugged a cat today???
nobody
> optikl <optik-m...@invalid.net> wrote in news:5OqdnaJ8JL9M1XreRVn-
> i...@comcast.com:
>
>
>>Why don't you take the money you waste on your internet connection and
>>give that to your church?
>
>
> (To the spammer:)
>
> Yes, and when you've finished that, shove your modem up your ass. Sideways.
> Follow it with your computer, monitor, and anythign else electronic you can
> find.
>
> Then go plug them into the neart 220VAC electric outlet.
>
>
around after that windstorm......
WindsorFox
Electrifying.
--
"I have no need to purchase any bulk e-mail software
and use it to piss off the Internet community and lose
my Internet account. If I want to piss off somebody,
I'll do it on a one-to-one basis." - Norman L De Forest
1942-2006
Matthew Sullivan
> Le 06 Feb 2006, Cadbury Moose <ple...@do.not.spam.the.moose> a écrit :
>
>
>>Norman, if you're reading this (and the other postings), you're
>>probably getting some ide of the esteem in which we hold you.
>>Thanks for all your help in the past,...
>
>
> It’s too bad that only spammers get to know in which esteem we hold them
> while they’re alive.
>
> Of course, the solution to this problem is to kill spammers...
...and you'll notice the cheers when a spammer dies, nobody being sad to see
them go...
/ Mat
Wm James
>"It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
> literally has helped thousands of people, both through Chebucto and
> the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
> kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
> true extent of his caring..."
>
>http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
>
That's a loss! We will miss him.
William R. James
larrys...@cox.net
I just learned of his passing today--elswhere I said:
The world is a poorer place now, but it is better than it would have
been without him at all.
I was also sorry to learn in the process of the passing of Gary G, and
of "Socks". Been a teary day on the Great Plains.
Morely Dotes
De Forest:
> I was also sorry to learn in the process of the passing of Gary G, and
> of "Socks". Been a teary day on the Great Plains.
Hasn't been a picnic elswhere, my friend. But we are all better for
having known these, and others who went before.
--
Tired of spam in your mailbox?
Come to http://www.spamblocked.com
Who is Brad Jesness? http://www.wilhelp.com/bj_faq/
To the spammers, my motto: FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC.
Nicky
<larrys...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:1140486353.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Wm James wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 20:55:27 -0000, "Ant" <n...@home.today> wrote:
>>
>> >"It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
>> > Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
>> > Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
>> > literally has helped thousands of people, both through Chebucto and
>> > the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
>> > kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
>> > true extent of his caring..."
>> >
>> >http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
So sad to hear this :(
Nicky
DarkFiber
> "It is with great sadness that we announce the passing away of
> Norman De Forest ... In poor health and living in extreme poverty,
> Norman's mind was rarely fettered by his circumstances and he quite
> literally has helped thousands of people, both through Chebucto and
> the internet and in real life. Like most truly generous people, he
> kept his charity to himself and it is likely nobody alive knows the
> true extent of his caring..."
>
> http://beacon.chebucto.info/news.shtml
>
>
I was saddened to learn of Norm's passing.
While I didn't hear of it in the most timely fashion, my tears were real.
I learned a great deal from this man even though I never had the privilege of meeting him.
May his light shine on forever inside those he touched.
--
DarkFiber
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