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jaYPee

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May 21, 2001, 12:05:02 AM5/21/01
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I have a new harddisk (seagate) that is used over a month. When I try
to run scandisk from ms-dos I see that I have some bad sector. I don't
think that it is really a bad sector cause my harddisk is new. I have
read from antivirus website that there is a virus that infect your
harddrive and mark some sector as bad. I scanned my harddrive with
mcafee from a floppy but cannot detect it. May be because the dat file
is not updated. I have made it from mcafee emergency disk. it is said
that the dat file is in the year 1998 and have not updated.

Is there any utility that can remove this kind of virus? I have heard
that diskedit from norton can make bad sector to good but not sure.

thanx in advance...

Styxx2

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May 21, 2001, 12:19:05 AM5/21/01
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Please always include, your Operating System (OS), (Win 98/95 FE (first
edition), SE (second edition), Me (millenium edition), computer brand your
using, type of antivirus (availability of Rescue Disks), if you've got a
Win98 Startup Disk made, and amount of RAM, in your messages when you
request support or advice.

A brief description of your difficulty and the Exact error message you wrote
down as it occured, if necessary. What you were doing with the computer as
the ereror message occured, if possible. The forum needs more information
to answer your question(s) effectively. A technical support point of
contact may ask for these and more details. The exact name of the virus.

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You can print this out for future reference or copy and paste it to a
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There are about four (4) free Anti-virus Program (AVP) downloads off the
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viruses as part of your troubleshooting routine.

Symantec offers Customer support through 'e-mail' and a forum where your
answers will be responded to by a Technical Support representative at:


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rvice.general&submit=Post&

As with all Antivirus scanners, you need to make sure that they are scanning
All Files and NOT Program Files Only as many virus scanners default to!

Additionally and very important, is that you do 'handle e-mail very
carefully'. By this is meant that you never click on paperclip icons or
double-click the subject lines. Never. You can scroll the message body to
read but never click on it anywhere else, even if your most trusted person,
friend or family member, sends you an e-mail. with a paperclip icon, as with
Outlook Express (AOL or Hotmail just say the attachment name in writing
somewhere below the message body), never choose (Save To Disk or Open) and
then say OK! The friend or family member can be 'infected' and wouldn't know
it. Clicking on e-mail in either of the above mentioned ways will activate
the virus. Any e-mail with attachment(s) calls for immediate deletion of the
e-mail with the attachment twice, once from Inbox, once from the Deleted
Items folder.

Virus like the dreaded WScript.KAKWorm do not require activation like most
viruses. If it's received, it activates itself.
Many viruses attach themselves, when activated as described above (they must
be activated in most cases), to e-mail browsers' like Outlook Express'
Address Book and send itself to all the contacts therein as soon as and
every time you open your e-mail browser again or get on-line.

Many viruses are planted on people's systems by Hackers accessing your hard
drive using Trojan horses, or so-called 'Server Robots', that the 'wrongful
intruder' can use to access your hard drive anytime your on-line and modify,
delete or add to your hard drive contents in anyway they want. Even to plant
viruses without your knowledge making e-mail borne bad code transmission
unnecessary. Without a hardware or software firewall, software firewalls are
most common for home users, in place then and 'hacked' by a Trojan Horse the
computer is not yours while your on-line and any information on your hard
drive can be accessed by the hacker, even your most personal data.

Accept No Substitutes, handle your e-mail in this fashion and you will go a
long way to stopping the unintelligent freaks of nature that start these
Viruses, Trojans and Variants from being spread around by undeserving
unknowing people who are unaware their outgoing e-mail is infected. Update
your virus definitions at least monthly to every two weeks and get the FREE
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shields at the Shields Up site there. Hackers typically use both port
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weaknesses on a computer that a Firewall stops.

There are services that scan your computer for Malicious code (Viruses,
Trojans and Variants).

Usually viruses won't prevent you from going to the below listed URL at
Trend-Micro.

Try using these links:

On-Line Scans for Viruses, Trojans, and Variants

1. Symantec (Norton Antivirus) Security Check - Free on-line scan
http://security1.norton.com/us/intro.asp?venid=sym&langid=us
Click the 'Run Virus Check' or 'Run Security Check' button.

2. Trend Micro (PC-cillin) - Free on-line Scan
http://housecall.antivirus.com
A small Download Required

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5. F-Prot AVP for DOS download page.
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**************************************************

Free Firewall(s)

6. ZoneLabs personal firewall - Anti-Hacker Countermeasure.
http://www.zonelabs.com

7. Learn about Internet security and why you need a firewall
at Steve Gibson's Shields UP site.
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**************************************************

8. Update your antivirus definitions weekly/monthly as updates come out.

9. Scan your computer for malicious code each time after updating
definitions.

10. Update your Rescue Disks for each AVP after each update.


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The Night Stalker

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May 21, 2001, 12:14:48 AM5/21/01
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jaYPee <jpee...@mailops.com> wrote in message
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> I have a new harddisk (seagate) that is used over a month. When I try
> to run scandisk from ms-dos I see that I have some bad sector. I don't
> think that it is really a bad sector cause my harddisk is new.

In my experience, Seagate is one of the most poorly made drives. I would
even be willing to bet that you have a "refurbished" drive. These come from
Seagate and are supposed to be of the same quality as a new drive, but they
arent. You might try running disk recovery software such as Spinrite
available at http://www.grc.com Its $50.00, but worth it. There may be some
freeware options out there, so you might look around. Honestly though, if
you have bad sectors on a brand new drive, you need to contact Seagate. You
might also try downloading any diagnostic software they offer on their site
(Seatools). It can often give you a lot of information, including whether
or not its factory refurbished or "new".
http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/drivers/index.html#sdd


I have
> read from antivirus website that there is a virus that infect your
> harddrive and mark some sector as bad. I scanned my harddrive with
> mcafee from a floppy but cannot detect it.

What website was this?


May be because the dat file
> is not updated. I have made it from mcafee emergency disk. it is said
> that the dat file is in the year 1998 and have not updated.

Heh, for AV to even have a chance of working, it needs to be updated on a
regular basis. I would also recommend that you get away from McAfee and try
F-Prot for DOS or InoculateIT Personal Edition for Windows.

>
> Is there any utility that can remove this kind of virus? I have heard
> that diskedit from norton can make bad sector to good but not sure.
>
> thanx in advance...

Without knowing more, theres not much anyone can do for you at this point.,
Download the Seatools diagnostic software from Seagate, run it and see what
it says. If its a refurbished drive, you are out of luck as bad sectors are
a prelude to drive failure.

Stalker Steve, MCP
eAegis http://www.stormpages.com/eaegis

Robert Moir

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May 21, 2001, 3:01:22 AM5/21/01
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"Styxx2" <styk...@msn.com> wrote in message
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[drivel snipped]
Did that have ANYTHING to do with the question in hand? Did you even read
it?


Ben Myers

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May 21, 2001, 8:09:51 PM5/21/01
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See http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q127/0/55.asp for
info on retesting bad clusters.

Ben

Terence Bradshaw

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May 22, 2001, 5:57:08 PM5/22/01
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"The Night Stalker" <real...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<YC0O6.15366$bv2.5...@typhoon.austin.rr.com>...

<snip>

>You might try running disk recovery software such as Spinrite
> available at http://www.grc.com Its $50.00, but worth it.

Looks like the price for this is now around $90.00

Looks like a great utility, tho.

Terry

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