Dr Solomons
Pine Direct
if anyone has one later than v7.68
Thanks
Glenn
David Harley
: I would like an upgraded version of Dr Solomons Magic Bullet
: if anyone has one later than v7.68
I should hope so. Current release is 7.88..... I doubt if the
licence terms would allow another user to send you a current
one, though. You probably need to contact a dealer. You can
probably find contact info at www.drsolomon.com.
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Jack Clark
(Pine Direct) wrote:
> I would like an upgraded version of Dr Solomons Magic Bullet
> if anyone has one later than v7.68
I've got a few copies you can have, send me your registration card and
you'll get your update by return of post.
Cheers
--
Jack Clark Jackc...@cix.co.uk
NAI UK http://www.nai.com
Dr Solomon's AntiVirus (DSAV) http://www.drsolomon.com
Information on Dr Solomon's/NAI merger: http://www.drsolomon.com
MD
Pine Direct wrote in message <6utlu9$2...@news3.force9.net>...
Andy Ruddock
AndyR
-----
Jack Clark wrote:
> In article <6utlu9$2...@news3.force9.net>, glenn....@pine-direct.com
> (Pine Direct) wrote:
>
> > I would like an upgraded version of Dr Solomons Magic Bullet
> > if anyone has one later than v7.68
>
Marcel D.
Andy Ruddock heeft geschreven in bericht <3615374E...@virgin.net>...
>Can you send me one as well please Jack?
>
>AndyR
>-----
>
Marcel D. Data Alert
Andy Ruddock
> Andy Ruddock heeft geschreven in bericht <3615374E...@virgin.net>...
> >Can you send me one as well please Jack?
> >
> >AndyR
> >-----
> >
> Everyone but you !!
Not fair <g>
AndyR
-----
Marcel D.
Andy Ruddock heeft geschreven in bericht <36153FE4...@virgin.net>...
>"Marcel D." wrote:
>
>> Everyone but you !!
>
>Not fair <g>
>
new release ? I checked the 401B and it's impressive...
Marcel
Andy Ruddock
You'll have to ask someone at NAI regarding MB development, I've moved on.
I'm now working at Norman Data Defense, we're just in the process of setting up
a development operation in the UK, lots of fun.
The office is only five minutes from home and we've got proper coffee instead of
that muck that comes from a machine.
I've had six weeks at home, so I'm nice and relaxed and ready for some new
challenges.
AndyR
-----
Marcel D.
Andy Ruddock heeft geschreven in bericht <361552DD...@virgin.net>...
>"Marcel D." wrote:
>
>> >
>> Hi Andy, are we going to get a new and improved MB ? Any new featurs for
the
>> new release ? I checked the 401B and it's impressive...
>
>You'll have to ask someone at NAI regarding MB development, I've moved on.
WOW, wasn't aware of that...
>I'm now working at Norman Data Defense, we're just in the process of
setting up
>a development operation in the UK, lots of fun.
Well, good luck in your new job, I am convinced you will make things work
for them ! Maybe a NB disk 8-)
Marcel D.
Andy Ruddock
> Andy Ruddock heeft geschreven in bericht <361552DD...@virgin.net>...
> >"Marcel D." wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> Hi Andy, are we going to get a new and improved MB ? Any new featurs for
> the
> >> new release ? I checked the 401B and it's impressive...
> >
> >You'll have to ask someone at NAI regarding MB development, I've moved on.
>
> WOW, wasn't aware of that...
Well I didn't feel at all comfortable with the takeover. Working for Dr
Solomon's was a great experience but I wouldn't have given my best to NAI so I
felt it best to make that clear from the outset.
> >I'm now working at Norman Data Defense, we're just in the process of
> setting up
> >a development operation in the UK, lots of fun.
>
> Well, good luck in your new job, I am convinced you will make things work
> for them ! Maybe a NB disk 8-)
Who can tell?
AndyR
-----
(Senior Software Developer - Norman Data Defense Systems (UK) Ltd.)
Jack Clark
Ruddock) wrote:
> Can you send me one as well please Jack?
>
> AndyR
Send me your home address and I'll get one in the post to you, its the
least I can do in return for the laugh's, moans and groans and
more than excellent development work I saw from you.
Dr Alan Solomon
In article <361552DD...@virgin.net>, Andy Ruddock (andy.r...@virgin.net) writes:
>"Marcel D." wrote:
>
>> >"Marcel D." wrote:
>> >
>> >> Everyone but you !!
>> >
>> >Not fair <g>
>> >
>> new release ? I checked the 401B and it's impressive...
>
>You'll have to ask someone at NAI regarding MB development, I've moved on.
>a development operation in the UK, lots of fun.
>that muck that comes from a machine.
>
>I've had six weeks at home, so I'm nice and relaxed and ready for some new
>challenges.
OK - write a Magic Bullet.
--
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Personal: drs...@xxibmpcug.co.uk http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~drsolly
Business: alan.s...@xxauthentec.co.uk AOL Keyword SAFETYONLINE
I use Dr Solomon's Antivirus
DSSL: http://www.drsolomon.com email: sup...@drsolomon.com
Jack Clark
(Dr Alan Solomon) wrote:
>
> In article <361552DD...@virgin.net>, Andy Ruddock (andy.ruddock@vi
> rgin.net) writes:
> >"Marcel D." wrote:
> >
> >> Andy Ruddock heeft geschreven in bericht <36153FE4...@virgin.ne
> t>...
> >> >"Marcel D." wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Everyone but you !!
> >> >
> >> >Not fair <g>
> >> >
> >> Hi Andy, are we going to get a new and improved MB ? Any new featurs
> for the
> >> new release ? I checked the 401B and it's impressive...
> >
> >You'll have to ask someone at NAI regarding MB development, I've moved
> on.
> >I'm now working at Norman Data Defense, we're just in the process of se
> tting up
> >a development operation in the UK, lots of fun.
> >The office is only five minutes from home and we've got proper coffee i
> nstead of
> >that muck that comes from a machine.
> >
> >I've had six weeks at home, so I'm nice and relaxed and ready for some
> new
> >challenges.
>
> OK - write a Magic Bullet.
>
Bloody good idea. Hey, perhaps I could get an answer to something that has
played on my mind for some time now, why are we (NAI) the only ones with a
Magic Bullet. It is, and will continue to be a major selling point.
Regards
John Bloodworth
the
>concept of making a clean boot disk. Does it please you to take money from
such
>morons? Also, Until NAI bought out Dr Solomons, NAI didn't have any such
'magic
>bullet'. You acquired that with your new found technology, fucker.
Erm Jack is an Original Solomon's man........one of very few left....anyhow
the Magic Bullet (good as it was) is becoming more and more obsolete as AV
products increase their ability to disinfect in memory.
John Bloodworth
Graham Cluley
> anyhow the Magic Bullet (good as it was) is becoming more and
> more obsolete as AV products increase their ability to disinfect
> in memory.
I can't agree with that. There are a whole bunch of viruses which on
some operating systems will stop your PC booting at all. In those cases
in-memory disinfection is useless, but a Magic Bullet diskette is very
handy.
Then are viruses like Natas - a 1 in 512 chance of trashing your hard
disk contents every time you boot up from the hard drive. If I was
infected with Natas would I risk booting up and attempting in-memory
disinfection, or would I play safe with the Magic Bullet diskette? Right
- I'd choose the Magic Bullet.
In-memory disinfection can be useful. So can a Magic Bullet diskette.
Neither remove the usefulness of the other.
--
Graham Cluley, independent anti-virus chap
http://members.aol.com/gcluley email: hamrag at cix.co.uk
Jack Clark
> Because too many computer illiterate users are around who Haven't gotten
> the
> concept of making a clean boot disk. Does it please you to take money fr
> om such
> morons? Also, Until NAI bought out Dr Solomons, NAI didn't have any such
> 'magic
> bullet'. You acquired that with your new found technology, fucker.
>
What pleases me RAID (wish you'd use a real name) is giving a computer
'User' a simple way of removing something they don't want. What do you do
with your used bath water RAID, empty it down the plughole or do you
recycle it yourself?
DR SOLOMONS SOFTWARE
bullet'.<<
True
>>You acquired that with your new found technology, fucker.<<
In fact, Jack's worked at Good Ol' Dr. Sollys for yonks ;o)
Thanks,
Rod Cambridge
Dr. Solomon's/NAI Technical Support
rodney....@uk.drsolomon.com
rod_ca...@nai.com
Tony Brown
clean viruses from machines
running NT with NTFS. The magic bullet doesn't recognise it and any
file-infection cannot be
reliably removed whilst the virus is active. If so, surely this must be
a serious problem awaiting
the industry ?
Cheers
Tony Brown
DR SOLOMONS SOFTWARE
file-infection cannot be reliably removed whilst the virus is active.<<
Both Findvirus and Winguard can successfully detect and remove file
viruses on an NT/NTFS machine.
When booting an NT/NTFS machine from the Magic Bullet, however, it won't
recognise NTFS partitions properly and so will not detect a file virus on
an NTFS partitioned machine.
If the NT machine is using the FAT filing system then the 'bullet *will*
be able to detect/repair virus infections.
>>If so, surely this must be a serious problem awaiting the industry ?<<
It's a limitation in the product, yes - but remember that with the Magic
Bullet, we go significatly further than other anti virus programs in
having a bootable Anti virus disk in the first place. Also, once you've
booted into NT, Winguard will stop, (and disinfect if so configured), any
viruses it comes across.
The Magic Bullet is a great tool. I don't think that this limitation is a
'serious problem awaiting the industry'.
Thanks,
Rod Cambridge
Dr. Solomon's/NAI Technical Support
John Bloodworth
>Bullet, we go significatly further than other anti virus programs in
>having a bootable Anti virus disk in the first place. Also, once you've
>booted into NT, Winguard will stop, (and disinfect if so configured), any
>viruses it comes across.
Not entirely true, Winguard will disinfect most viruses it comes across but
not all
John Bloodworth
Tony Brown
> Both Findvirus and Winguard can successfully detect and remove file
> viruses on an NT/NTFS machine.
>
In recent tests, when infecting a test-machine (Form I think), the
message said that I'd need to
use the magic bullet.
I'm sure it does a great job of keeping the viruses out (easily the best
in my tests), but, for previously
unprotected machines (I'm about to roll it out to quite a few NTFS
users), if they have picked up a virus,
we may have a problem.
I would guess that a stealth file-infector that had got into one of the
start-up programs in NT
would make removal near-impossible ?
***** Comparisons *****
Lastly, for non Dr. Sol. users - try the following 3 tests ;
1) Test the on-access scanner using a write-protected boot-infected
floppy - most AVs don't even
give a virus warning - only "Unable to access A:" type message. Just
what you want users to see ?
2) Try Closing Down with a boot-infected floppy in the drive - most
happily let you do it even
though you'll probably infect your MBR when you switch on!
3) If you do infect your hard disk boot, see how many tell you it's
infected automatically on start-up.
Most only tell you when you decide to perform a manual scan.
Well done Dr.Sol. - Please NAI, don't go back a level and drop these
when you merge the product.
Regards
Tony
j...@brilig.demon.co.uk
tony....@virgin.net wrote:
> >
> > Both Findvirus and Winguard can successfully detect and remove file
> > viruses on an NT/NTFS machine.
> >
>
> In recent tests, when infecting a test-machine (Form I think), the
> message said that I'd need to
> use the magic bullet.
WinGuard NT doesn't remove MBR or bootsector viruses on harddisks.
Although we could, we decided not to because we didn't fancy changing
things like that while NT is running.
> Lastly, for non Dr. Sol. users - try the following 3 tests ;
>
> 1) Test the on-access scanner using a write-protected boot-infected
> floppy - most AVs don't even
> give a virus warning - only "Unable to access A:" type message. Just
> what you want users to see ?
>
> 2) Try Closing Down with a boot-infected floppy in the drive - most
> happily let you do it even
> though you'll probably infect your MBR when you switch on!
>
> 3) If you do infect your hard disk boot, see how many tell you it's
> infected automatically on start-up.
> Most only tell you when you decide to perform a manual scan.
These three (especially 1 and 2) were things we felt the on-access scanner
really should have since an infected MBR can really cause problems for NT
>
> Well done Dr.Sol. - Please NAI, don't go back a level and drop these
> when you merge the product.
>
The combined on-access scanner is still great!
--
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NT On-Access Scanner
Network Associates - Formerly Dr Solomon's Software
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Any plans to put the MB/SOS disk on bootable CD-Rom?
<<
Yes, it's an area for possible future development. Now that NAI are in
charge though, I'm not sure what the future plans are for the 'Bullet.
I'll see what I can find out.
D. Carvajal
update95.exe ?
~~~~~~~~~~~
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Graduate of the University of Miami
E-mail: dcar...@bellsouth.net
Home Page: http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/~dcarvaja
Graham Cluley
> update95.exe ?
Maybe you're using DSAV Deluxe which doesn't require UPDATE95.EXE. DSAV
Deluxe updates are downloaded from
http://dale.drsolomon.com/solus/update/drivers/
--
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D. Carvajal
update95.exe ?
D. Carvajal
On 15 Oct 1998 20:04:01 +0100, san...@cix.co.uk ("Graham Cluley")
wrote:
>> Why is it that my dr solomon directory does not contain a file called
>> update95.exe ?
>
>Maybe you're using DSAV Deluxe which doesn't require UPDATE95.EXE. DSAV
>Deluxe updates are downloaded from
>http://dale.drsolomon.com/solus/update/drivers/
~~~~~~~~~~~
DR SOLOMONS SOFTWARE
>>I would guess that a stealth file-infector that had got into one of the
start-up programs in NT
would make removal near-impossible ?
<<
This shouldn't cause us a problem as the virus won't be able to stealth
properly under Windows NT, (unless it's running in a Dos box - in which
case it could stealth, but in most cases we'd still be able to find it in
memory).
Boot sector viruses tend not to work properly under NT either ;o)
Thanks,
DR SOLOMONS SOFTWARE
>>No I'm using DSAV regular version.
On 15 Oct 1998 20:04:01 +0100, san...@cix.co.uk ("Graham Cluley")
wrote:
>> Why is it that my dr solomon directory does not contain a file called
>> update95.exe ?
>
>Maybe you're using DSAV Deluxe which doesn't require UPDATE95.EXE. DSAV
>Deluxe updates are downloaded from
>http://dale.drsolomon.com/solus/update/drivers/
<<
Why not give technical support a quick call on 801 492 2600? They'll be
able to identify the product you have and point out your options for
future updates.
Sandy
>Why not give technical support a quick call on 801 492 2600? They'll be
>able to identify the product you have and point out your options for
>future updates.
Funny... I DID that, and you know what.. the tech fellow downloaded me
a copy of the update95.exe.. This was AFTER I told him that I had the
Toolkit version. HE was in the Toolkit tech area... Needless to sday,
the update95.exe was NOT for the win95 AV Toolkit... So, no matter
what I hear in this forum, I was NOT able to update my application,
and was not able to get a monthly renewal. Wouldn't it have been SO
SIMPLE for someone, just ONE person to say, I'll start sending you the
disks to begin your renewal period??? How customer oriented. How
unique that would have been.
Bill Blevins
Sandy wrote:
Just incase you haven't noticed. Those days are gone.
--
Bill Blevins
blevi...@earthlink.net
"Necrophilia means never having to say..well....anything."