Cellphone/PDA combo (e.g. Kyocera QCP 6035)
Andy Glew
"Smartphone",
the cellphone/PDA combo, with Verizon service. I seek
advice from
anyone on these newsgroups, ranging from
(1) are these devices usable as cellphone/PDAs?
e.g. if you strongly feel that they are useless,
I'd appreciate hearing about it.
(2) are there metal and/or waterproof cases available
for this cellphone/PDA?
(3) are their comparable devices,
such as PalmPC's with cell capability
and/or other smart cellphones able to synchronize
my calendar with Microsoft utlook.
What I know:
Apparently descended from the original Qualcomm Palmpilot -
apparently Qualcomm's phone business was bought by Kyocera .
8M. PalmOS III.
Verizon Wireless sells them for 499$ each, including cradle,
+ connect charges. Verizon is reputed to have good cellphone
coverage in my area, including the Oregon coast, although
their coverage maps show a hole south of Tillamook.
SprintPCS sells them, via Fry's + OfficeDepot, for 399$,
with subscription to a Sprint calling plan. Sprint appears
not
to have good coverage in several of the areas I want to use
the phone,
esp. the Oregon coast, but possibly also my house (their
coverage
maps show a hole.)
What I want:
A cellphone/PDA combo. (I've used a PalmPilot since the Palm
I.
I've used cellphones off and on since they became available.
I hated carrying both.)
Survivability. I have broken 3 PalmPilots. I swore that I
would buy
the metal case for the next Palm I bought - but, I am aware
of no such
case for the Kyocera phone. Similarly, waterproof is a nice
property
on the Oregon coast, where it can rain hard, horizontally.
Good cellphone coverage:
* in the Portland, OR area
* in particular, at my house in far NW Portland, in
Linnton,
halfway to Scappoose, overlooking Sauvie Island, and along
Skyline
Drive and Cornelius Pass. (Most cellular coverage maps show
holes
in this area.)
* at the Oregon coast, in particular at Netarts +
Oceanside. (Many
cellular coverage maps show holes SW of Tillamook, probably
caused
by the mountain on which Cape Mears sits, which.)
===> Of necessity, analog service is necessary. Poor
digital coverage
in most of the areas I need the phone, except for Portland.
Information Exchange:
* I need to be able to synchronize my schedule with my
employer's
Microsoft Exchange server / Microsoft Outlook.
I was tempted by Microsoft based PalmPCs,
such as the
Compaq Ipaq, which actually run Outlook. I have verified
that you can actually
set up meetings with others using the Ipaq. In my experience
PalmOS calendar
synchronization with Outlook is incomplete - e.g. you can
set up a meeting with
yourself, but not with others.
However, I am aware of no PalmPCs that are
cellphone/PDA combos.
In this case, form takes precedence over capability.
* I'd like to be able to keep a copy of my schedule on
my wife's PDA,
and vice versa. (Remember, my schedule also synchronizes
with Outlook.)
Nice to haves:
The Smartphone supports a number of features that it is
not clear
are all supported by Verizon, such as:
* paging (Sprint's version supports it, but no mention
from Verizon)
* text messaging
* email
* web browsing
None of these are tremendously important to me, except that
email
may be the best way to send my schedule to my wife, and vice
versa.
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$432.99 ($399+tax) and received a cupon for $50 through mail-in
rebate.
GO NOW, the rebate offer is over July the 31st. You get 'till Aug
14th to post your rebate.
I selected Sprint in my area for two reasons, they give existing
Sprint long distance customers a one-time $50 discount on your first
month's bill... and being a USAA member, I get an additional 5% off
every month.
I'm a TRGpro user and while I have only had the Kyocera 6035 for a
week, I have not needed my TRGpro. However I keep it current with
information used in the Smartphone so if I need it or want to carry a
more "standard" Palm device, all I have to do is grab it.
Robert Griner
questions.
1. Yes they are usable as both cellphones/PDA"s. I think the combination is
great. It has it's minor drawbacks. The screen is smaller than most Palm's,
but is very readable. The phone is larger that most of today's newer phones.
The good thing is you only carry 1 device. I use the wireless web functions,
and it is great to not have to carry any connecting wires.
2. There are no metal or waterproof cases that I am aware of.
3. The Kyocera comes with a program called Pocket Mirror, which will let you
sync with Microsoft Outlook.
If you have any other questions, try this link http://www.qcp6035.com
"Andy Glew" <andy...@qwest.net> wrote in message
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Jason Oliver
with a color screen.
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/prod/hhcommerce/telecommunications/mp
_palm_phone.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1095857151.0996462137@@@@&BV_EngineID=galli
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"Andy Glew" <andy...@qwest.net> wrote in message
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ll
I've thought about the switch, but as I use my Palm more than I do the
phone, and for things more often beyond callender and contacts, like
astronomy, it is more important to have strong palm features like larger
screen and a faster processor... I'll just keep my cell phone in my
bag.
ll
taking the footprint of a Vx with a color screen, fast processor, wireless
modem, 16meg of ram, and an integrated tri band phone for $400. The kyocera
will seem like a monster in what is only the beginning of a trend that will be
mainstream in not too long.
Peter da Silva
Andy Glew <andy...@qwest.net> wrote:
> However, I am aware of no PalmPCs that are
> cellphone/PDA combos.
Microsoft is talking about something called a "Stinger", but it will have its
own Windows-CE-base GUI... it won't be 100% compatible with the Pocket PC.
I have also had my Pocket PC (a Jornada) mysteriously fail to sync with
Outlook. thus far a reinstall of Outlook has got it back, but it's not
encouraging.
Another option would be the Visor Platinum or Prism with the Visorphone.
It's bulkier, but there are protective cases made specifically for that
combination.
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Peter da Silva
Jason Oliver <jas...@ec.rr.com> wrote:
> http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/prod/hhcommerce/telecommunications/mp
> _palm_phone.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1095857151.0996462137@@@@&BV_EngineID=galli
> ddfielbedicfcffcgfm.0
Try it as
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/prod/hhcommerce/telecommunications/mp_palm_phone.jsp
It won't go through with your session tags.
Dave Shuman
ll <lloe...@home.com> wrote in message news:3B64D915...@home.com...
device comes along, I'll just trade up. For right now, the 6035 is a very
useful device, just as it is.
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Birk Binnard
it the same week it was originally realeased. (In case you didn;t know,
Qualcomm sold their cellphone business to Kyocera.) I thought it was the
greates thing since sliced bread...until I saw the Visor Phone. The real
issue is what is more important to you...the phone functions, or the PDA
functions. In my case it really was the PDA functions. So i scrapped my
Qualcomm phone and bough a Prism/Visorphone compb. I'm much happier now
with the color screen, larger screen, and (slightly) better PDA/phone
integration.
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Peninsula Software
http://www.birkbinnard.com
Bob Griner
service area.
If you live in a large metropolitan area, I assume it would be fine. It does
not provide any analog coverage. I live in a smaller town, and once you got
away from the city, there was no coverage.
Check you coverage first.
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(John Bartley, PC sysadmin, OR-BK, PDX)
a ride w/ Galen, ll <lloe...@home.com> wrote:
>I've heard the processor's slow. Akin to a Palm Pro 5000.
That was the Qualcomm 'brick' pdq.
The new Kyocera 6035 is pleasingly rapid, faster than my VIIx.
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(John Bartley, PC sysadmin, OR-BK, PDX)
hitch a ride w/ Galen, "Bob Griner" <bsgr...@nospam.bellsouth.net> wrote:
>I looked at the Prism/VisorPhone combination, the only problem I had was the
>service area.
>
>If you live in a large metropolitan area, I assume it would be fine. It does
>not provide any analog coverage. I live in a smaller town, and once you got
>away from the city, there was no coverage.
>
>Check you coverage first.
Yes, suggest you look at the GSM coverage map, at the FAQ site.
Steve Willis
pilots (initially) and flight attendants think I'm using a cell phone - a
very big no-no. I've demo'd the combo and explained it to the pilots who,
naturally, understand the concept. However, they basically said that if a
flight attendant thinks I'm using a phone then they're going to make me turn
it off.
Steve
And I fly a lot.
DrBwell
Verizon service. I'm very happy with it as a cellphone and PDA. I went from
a Nokia 6162 and a Palm Vx to a "All in One" device! Of course they will be
introducing smaller, lighter, colorful, faster technology in a year from now
or less. But, look at it this way, you can have the begining of this
technology right now! Oh, I forgot to mention, Verizon is giving $100 on
your next phone with a 2 year contract. So , I got my wife a new cheap
regular phone with a 2 yr contract also. That means $200 towards a new phone
in 2003.
BTW, I was able to get the "Aquapack (from Kyocera)" submirsible case and
the E&B Kyocera case(just shipped from E&B).
Mark S.
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phone.
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 22:39:11 -0500, "Mark S." <mse...@hotmail.com>
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why not make it 1???? easier to carry.
yes....water proof bags....get 1 of those transparent plastic bags from
supermarket veggie dept. works great ;)
i believe they are compatible with any Palm OS software....and there are
1000s of them....so its not going to be hard to find a software to sync with
Outlook or Act or whatever "schedule management" program u r using
Andy Glew wrote in message <3B64A53E...@qwest.net>...
Andy Glew
> the E&B Kyocera case(just shipped from E&B).
References?
Andy Glew
I bought the Kyoceras - 2, getting a 15% discount
(although not the 100$ per phone somebody else
mentioned).
I am restricted by service availability:
SprintPCS doesn't pretend to have service
on the Oregon coast and mountains,
and even Verizon is pretty spotty.
Even at my house in Portland, coverage
is poor and apparently weather dependent.
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Some first impressions:
(1) pretty nice. I like having both together.
(2) it's pretty obvious that the phone and PDA
are just pasted together. Many missed opportunities
for better integrated design. Maybe the Stinger
or the Samsung SPH-I300 will be better.
(3) I'm tempted to title a post "PalmPilot R.I.P."
For those of us who are forced to use Microsoft
Outlook at work, there is just no question:
a PalmPC running a version of Outlook
integrates one hell of a lot better than a PalmPilot
running Chapura to synchronize with Outlook.
There's none of this garbage about mapping disparate
application concepts. If a PalmPC Stinger were
available now, I'd be buying it instead of the Kyocera.
For now, the Kyocera will last me a few years,
I hope.
(4) Clunky things: the Kyocera can receive text messages,
but not send them. (That's the cell phone based text messages,
pseudo pages. If I were willing to pay the extra for email,
I would have it all.)
(5) CDMA based paging doesn't work inside any of the
buildings I work at, whereas old style FM paging,
and Skytel for that matter, do. I cannot give up my pager.
(Pete Cresswell)
>> BTW, I was able to get the "Aquapack (from Kyocera)" submirsible case and
>> the E&B Kyocera case(just shipped from E&B).
>
>References?
I got mine from http://waterproofcase.hypermart.net/palm.html
It was the best price I found at the time (shipping plus product
price...) and they shipped promptly, no problems.
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Pete Cresswell
(John Bartley, PC sysadmin, OR-BK, PDX)
hitch a ride w/ Galen, Andy Glew <andy...@qwest.net> wrote:
<snip>
>(5) CDMA based paging doesn't work inside any of the
>buildings I work at, whereas old style FM paging,
>and Skytel for that matter, do. I cannot give up my pager.
Consider the Beepwear < www.beepwear.com > pager watches which uses Skytel
freqs. I used one before I got my Qwest shoephone, and it worked reliably
inside downtown Puddletown buildings. One less thing to carry, plus +3 coolness
points. Have one I will show at next month's PDX-PDA meeting <
http://pdxpda.cjb.net >.
BTW, where are you going with your qWest account, since qWest has sold all us
residential DSL customers to MSN? (See < http://www.qWorst.net > for details -
just learned this AM from qwest.dsl that migration ends in November).
Bob
In the past I have owned the PalmPilot 1000, PalmPilot III, PalmPilot Vx
and am a current owner of the iPaq 3630 Pocket PC (I'm in the process of
trying to sell it).
When I boiled the whole thing down for me and the way that I use a PDA, I
found that the majority of the time I used the calender and address book
function the most (with the use of alarms). After that I need my bible, a
dictionary (I'm a lousy speller) the memo pad for storing short notes and
encrypted passwords (CryptoPad), news (AvantGo), E-Mail. The rest of the
programs are fluff. You know, games spreadsheet, etc.
With the iPaq I found that even though it was nice to be able to play
movies, listen to music etc, I didn't use those functions very much yet I
had to carry around the bulk to be able to do those functions. I also
carried my pager (cellphone is still not as reliable for reception) and my
cell phone.
I like the integration of the cell phone and the PDA and considered
waiting for the Samsung i300 but decided to get the Kyocera SmartPhone
instead. There are three main reasons for this; 1. The battery on the
Kyocera is rated to last longer (I can get between three to four days use
out of one charge (using both the PDA functionallity and the cell phone).
2. I like use of hard keys. It is MUCH easier to push phone numbers on a
hard keypad than doing it on a screen. 3. I wanted a little protection for
the screen. The flipup keypad provides protection for the PalmPilot
screen from getting scrached or broken.
I have been very pleased with the reception of the cellphone and its
functionality. It has proven to be reliable, durable, convient and now I
can look up a contact and just push their phone number to dial it, OR
speak the name OR speed dial it! I don't have to look it up on one device
and then type it into my cell phone. I also have one less appendage
hanging from my belt.
Surfing the web is cool, though I don't use that functionality very much
and it's a lot less expensive than a service like Omnisky!
Best wishes to you in you search for the right device for you!
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