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Tim Cunnings

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Feb 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/12/00
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Hi. I must confess that I am a Palm newbie. I am looking at getting a Palm
pilot, and I must say that upgrading the OS, adding memory etc is not a
priority for this first model that I buy. Its likely just a feeler that I
will use for a while until deciding on if I want a better model down the
track or not.

For the price (less than half of the IIIx here in Australia), I am kind of
leaning to the IIIe (despite the imac look!) It seems like a good all round
model for a beginner to try, but I am interested in seeing how the screen
compares to the other Palm models.

Its likely that I will have to mail order the unit, and won't get a chance
to try it before I buy

Any opinions (particularly the display) please?

Tim

Paul C

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Feb 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/12/00
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tim...@pcpro.net.au (Tim Cunnings) wrote in
<38a5...@duster.adelaide.on.net>:

>Its likely that I will have to mail order the unit, and won't get a
>chance to try it before I buy
>
>Any opinions (particularly the display) please?
>

The display on the IIIe is the same as the IIIx display. It's a good
improvement over the older models (III, Professional, Personal, etc) as it
went from a greenish background to a gold colored one. This improved the
contrast considerably. BTW if it has the Imac look then it must be a SE,
there is also a "plain jane" IIIe available which is the same color as a
IIIx.

xyz

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Feb 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/12/00
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I was in the same situation last fall. Being a Palm newbie and not
sure if I would even use a Palm on a regular basis (would I even want
to lug this thing around on a daily basis....didn't know how
ergonomic and user-friendly it was then) I didn't want to spend too
much on my first Palm. After much research I decided on the Palm
IIIe. It was selling for $230 Cdn online. At the time I wasn't
planning on downloading too many apps. I figured 2MB was plenty of
memory. And it still is unless you want to download big apps like
dictionaries, books and other reference material (like epocrates).
There are so many FREE and useful apps out there that you'll find
yourself downloading and experimenting quite a bit (it's only human
nature). Besides, the apps are not too big in size (usually in a
compressed format (zip)) so can be downloaded very quickly (some as
quick as a few seconds) and are super easy to install. The Palm
desktop is very user friendly and installing new apps is a
no-brainer...as easy as 123. I think the availability of hundreds
(thousands?) of apps for download, with many added every day, along
with the ease of installation is one reason why the Palm is so
popular. When it's that easy and trouble free you don't mind
downloading and trying new apps. I have quite a few apps on my Palm
IIIe and only have about 300k of memory left (rules out any large
reference material and dictionary). This 300k availability will
diminish further once I download Word documents (in Palm format) or
start to build on the databases already existent on the Palm. And I
don't even have avantgo (if you want to download newsgroups to read on
your Palm). So, you can see how quickly you can run out of space with
just 2MB. Mind you, if you're a frugal user, 2MB will do nicely. One
thing you will have to upgrade right away with the IIIe is the stylus.
The one that comes with the IIIe does not have a reset tip (oh, and
you will need it). I bought 3 extra metal ones with the screw-off
reset tip for $15 Cdn. Although the IIIe does not have Flash Rom,
therefore ruling out any option to upgrade to newer OS's like OS 3.3,
I find that OS 3.1.1 is more than enough. I hear the OS 3.3 has
faster HotSync speed you really won't notice it with a 2MB IIIe. OS
3.3 also has new IR HotSyncing but I don't have a need for it now.
Also, some early apps conflict with the new OS 3.3. Some users have
reverted back to OS 3.1(.1). The IIIe is a very capable Palm only
limited by it's lack of Flash Rom and 2MB limit although there are
services (Tony Rudenko) that offer to upgrade the memory to 8MB. Palm
prices have dropped dramatically over the last few months. At the
time I was looking at Palms the IIIx was selling for $550 Cdn at
Business Depot. The same IIIx can now be had for $300 Cdn online.
We're only talking about a timespan of roughly 5 months. There are a
few new Palms coming soon including one with colour capability. I
plan to upgrade to either the Vx, IIIxe or IIIc depending on cost.
There's a lot of life left in this IIIe. After having used the Palm
for about 3 months now, I find it to be an indispensable tool for day
to day organizing and reference. It was money well spent.


On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:54:49 +1030, "Tim Cunnings"
<tim...@pcpro.net.au> wrote:

>Hi. I must confess that I am a Palm newbie. I am looking at getting a Palm
>pilot, and I must say that upgrading the OS, adding memory etc is not a
>priority for this first model that I buy. Its likely just a feeler that I
>will use for a while until deciding on if I want a better model down the
>track or not.
>
>For the price (less than half of the IIIx here in Australia), I am kind of
>leaning to the IIIe (despite the imac look!) It seems like a good all round
>model for a beginner to try, but I am interested in seeing how the screen
>compares to the other Palm models.
>

>Its likely that I will have to mail order the unit, and won't get a chance
>to try it before I buy
>
>Any opinions (particularly the display) please?
>

>Tim
>
>


Dell Christopher

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Feb 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/12/00
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Unless you're absolutely sure you want the latest and greatest version (i.e.
Palm III or higher) why don't you check out a used Palm Pro or Palm
Personal. It will suit any newbie's needs just fine and you can get one
dirt cheap at the auction websites. If you don't like it, you haven't lost
much.


xyz wrote in message <38a5dd52...@news.intranet.ca>...

Shin Wachi

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Feb 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/13/00
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Palm IIIx is selling for about $200 right now. $50 for upgradability
and expandability isn't asking for much (check out AxxPac). Go for the
IIIx.

Shin

In article <mzsp4.3135$Tc.2...@typhoon-la.pbi.net>, Dell Christopher

Big Bear

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Feb 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/13/00
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I LOVE my 3e! I havent had a problem yet in 4 months. Very durable and long
lasting batteries. I have many programs on it. You probubly wont need tins
of memory when your a newbie so i say 3E.
Tim Cunnings <tim...@pcpro.net.au> wrote in message
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Jon

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Feb 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/14/00
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I have had my IIIe for 6 weeks, and I adore it! I love the ability to read
docs and of course AvantGo.
I also have a Psion 3a (for 4 years). The Palm complements the Psion.
Jon
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Craig Thomson

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Feb 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/14/00
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Tim,

I got my IIIe for Christmas this year. It is the clear one that we
bought from Harvey Norman. I notice that http://www.estore.com.au has
them for $285 at the moment.

I have been using it since then with no problems and loved it. I
decided for the IIIe for many of the same reasons that you are
considering it: I had never used a PDA before and didn't want to spend
a lot of $$$ on something that might end up being a toy that I stop
using after a few weeks.

I use it every day and have loaded it up with some dowloaded software,
both freeware and shareware. I only have about 320kb left, but don't
plan on installing anything more. I have DateBk 3, a couple of small
games, iSilo and a ToDo Plus and a couple of other small utilities. If
I did have more memory I'm sure I would use it, but there is nothing
more that I actually need (just *want*!)

If I find that later I need more memory I will probably send it to get
upgraded to 8MB from Tommy Rudenko (sp?) in the US rather than fork
out a new bundle (unless I can't resist a colout model!!)

The screen has been fine. I have not used anything else so have no
basis for comaprison but have not found anything that I dislike about
it.

Overall, I say GO FOR IT! I'm sure you won't be disappointed.

Craig

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:54:49 +1030, "Tim Cunnings"
<tim...@pcpro.net.au> wrote:

Becks

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Feb 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/16/00
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I bought my IIIe six months ago *because* of the iMac look (looks even
more iMaccy with an aqua flip lid!). I upgraded from a Palm Pro and
the difference in the screen is very noticeable. The pro's screen now
looks kind of blurred.

I have a ton of extra programs installed - trying out various doc
readers, image viewers, games, hacks etc. and I've still got memory
left.

I find OS3.1.1 fine, so the lack of Flash ROM doesn't bother me.

I use the Palm constantly - it never leaves my pocket during the day
and contains all the vital (and not-so-vital) information I need.

Unless you can afford to get a IIIx, go for the IIIe.

Becks


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Andy Dannelley

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Feb 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/16/00
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Becks <ballyki...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>
> I use the Palm constantly - it never leaves my pocket during the day
> and contains all the vital (and not-so-vital) information I need.

This just struck me in a humorous way. Becks uses the Plam
consistantly, but -- It never leaves (his) pocket. ;) ;)

<vbg>

>
> Unless you can afford to get a IIIx, go for the IIIe.
>
> Becks
>
>

CU@DL

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Highdesertman

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Feb 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/16/00
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It has to do really with what your needs are. If you are just
replacing a paper organizer, and don't really need the palmtop
computer aspect of the device, then the IIIe will be just the ticket.

If, on the other hand, you are going to be wanting/needing to have a
full fledged pocket computer, you will want the extra memory. In this
role, memory is everything, and the ability to upgrade to 8 megs that
the palm IIIx has is important also. The palm IIIx according to
reports, is being discontinued. I believe I heard that it's
replacement will be the IIIxe with 8 megs of memory rather than 4. So
if you want a IIIx now is the time to get one.

cheers,

Mathew

Shel Weisel

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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My wife's Palm III got stolen, so I picked up a Palm IIIe for her as a gift. Her
comments?
The screen is mushy, doesn't feel like glass like the Palm III did, and the
backlighting sucks!

Oh, and the stylus is cheap (which is really is. They used to give a metal stylus
with removable top to expose a reset pin on the Palm III, and a second plastic
stylus as a spare, as I recall. Now they just stick you with the cheap plastic
stylus, no reset pin)

(No mention of the MUCH improved screen over the Palm III and the extra
memory....)

oh, well....

PawlRevere wrote:

> i am very pleased with my IIIe. have had it about 2 weeks, and 75% memory free.
>
> i added a sci calc, element table, and units converter.
>
> it does every thing i need.


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