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vIRCiated(tm)

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Jun 4, 2002, 10:16:32 PM6/4/02
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Can I install Windows and MS-DOS (portuguese-brazilian) on my 200LX? And
what are the sizes of the memory cards? And can I connect a mouse to my
200LX? I have many Windows 3.1 programs that I use on work.


Janette

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Jun 8, 2002, 9:30:39 PM6/8/02
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Can you install Windows on a 200lx? Yes. Some have
reported success, although most Windows programs
won't run.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~muzza/win30.html

Nice novelty to try but now worth much.

Memory cards? PCMCIA type 2 in various sizes.
http://www.palmtoppaper.com/store/asp/product.asp?product=84

Mouse? Some have reported success although the
use is very limited.


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Jun 12, 2002, 5:37:51 PM6/12/02
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"Janette" <Janette...@hotmail.com> escreveu na mensagem
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> Can you install Windows on a 200lx? Yes. Some have
> reported success, although most Windows programs
> won't run.
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~muzza/win30.html
> Nice novelty to try but now worth much.
> Memory cards? PCMCIA type 2 in various sizes.
> http://www.palmtoppaper.com/store/asp/product.asp?product=84
> Mouse? Some have reported success although the
> use is very limited.
WTF a mouse will do in a 640 x 240 screen?
Get lost?
And is there any "hardware hackers" that know how to conect an monitor(P/B,
9") to my 200LX?
I am trying to use it mainly to run word and excel.
And can I run Linux on it?
I am a user of BOTH Windows and Linux, Windows is better for
desktop/notebook and Linux is better for small computers.


Janette

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Jun 14, 2002, 9:04:21 PM6/14/02
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A long time ago in a galaxy far far way "HPhreacker\(tm\)"

<coe...@brasnet.org> wrote:
>And is there any "hardware hackers" that know how to conect an monitor(P/B,
>9") to my 200LX?
I've never heard of one.

>I am trying to use it mainly to run word and excel.

You can run a DOS version of each program
on the 200lx. Windows version will not run.


>And can I run Linux on it?

There is no version of Linux for the 200lx.


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Jun 23, 2002, 12:18:27 PM6/23/02
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I do not know how you can get a machine like this to run Windows. You must be
using the PCMCIA card drive as your main drive. Just run DOS on that machine.
If you want Windows go buy yourself a Jornada 728, and use MS Terminal server.
John 3:16
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Janette

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Jun 23, 2002, 4:24:49 PM6/23/02
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A long time ago in a galaxy far far way jwol...@aol.com
(JWolf6589) wrote:

Windows 3.0 will run on a 200lx but it will only run a very
small amount of progarms. Something to do with protected
mode. Also the graphics will cause a problem.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~muzza/hp200lx/win30.html

Nice novelty. Not worth the trouble.

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Tim Spracklen

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Jun 24, 2002, 5:53:31 AM6/24/02
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Windows 3.0 will definitely run - I have it on my 200LX now.
Installation is very straightforward and I met no trouble at all. You
will need an expanded 200LX - it would not fit into the normal 2MB
200LX - although I guess it might run from the PCMCIA card. The mouse
works fine too - if you have a serial port adaptor for the 200LX and
the necessary plugs to enable you to connect a standard MS mouse to
it. I also have Word 5.0, which runs fine under Windows 3.0.

I agree with the other respondants - nice novelty and good fun but of
little practical use.

Tim
Aberdeen
Scotland


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Marcin Stragowski

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Jun 24, 2002, 8:10:06 AM6/24/02
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> Windows 3.0 will definitely run - I have it on my 200LX now.
> Installation is very straightforward and I met no trouble at all. You
> will need an expanded 200LX - it would not fit into the normal 2MB
> 200LX - although I guess it might run from the PCMCIA card. The mouse
> works fine too - if you have a serial port adaptor for the 200LX and
hmm i thought that hp 200lx has a touch screen ? so why the touchscreen
can't emulate mouse .?

> the necessary plugs to enable you to connect a standard MS mouse to
> it. I also have Word 5.0, which runs fine under Windows 3.0.
>
> I agree with the other respondants - nice novelty and good fun but of
> little practical use.

not fully when you have installed it on CF card ...
there's a lot of apps for wince 3 ...


and how about installing 3.1 or 3.11 windowses ?
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Erwann ABALEA

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Jun 24, 2002, 9:33:30 AM6/24/02
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On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Marcin Stragowski wrote:

> > Windows 3.0 will definitely run - I have it on my 200LX now.
> > Installation is very straightforward and I met no trouble at all. You
> > will need an expanded 200LX - it would not fit into the normal 2MB
> > 200LX - although I guess it might run from the PCMCIA card. The mouse
> > works fine too - if you have a serial port adaptor for the 200LX and
> hmm i thought that hp 200lx has a touch screen ? so why the touchscreen
> can't emulate mouse .?

There's no touch screen on the HP200LX.

> > the necessary plugs to enable you to connect a standard MS mouse to
> > it. I also have Word 5.0, which runs fine under Windows 3.0.

Why don't you use Word 5.5 in pure DOS?

> > I agree with the other respondants - nice novelty and good fun but of
> > little practical use.
> not fully when you have installed it on CF card ...
> there's a lot of apps for wince 3 ...

Windows 3.0 is not the same as WinCE 3.0...

And don't forget that the HP200LX has only 640K memory, a 80186-compatible
CPU, and a slooow CPU clock. So no 32-bit programs, ni virtual memory...

> and how about installing 3.1 or 3.11 windowses ?

They don't work with anything less than a 386. The HP200LX doesn't even
have a 286...

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Janette

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Jun 24, 2002, 3:24:20 PM6/24/02
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A long time ago in a galaxy far far way "Marcin Stragowski"

<no...@eranet.pl> wrote:
>hmm i thought that hp 200lx has a touch screen ? so why the touchscreen
>can't emulate mouse .?
The 200lx does not have a touch screen....

>not fully when you have installed it on CF card ...
>there's a lot of apps for wince 3 ...

But alot of the applications won't run on the 200lx.
If I remember correctly it has to do with
protected mode, the graphics ability, and sound
capabilities.

>and how about installing 3.1 or 3.11 windowses ?

I've never heard of anyone successfully doing it.
The only success has been with 3.0

Marcin Stragowski

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Jun 24, 2002, 8:11:23 PM6/24/02
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> And don't forget that the HP200LX has only 640K memory, a 80186-compatible
you mean ram like memory ? ang how much ram have hp 100lx ?


Erwann ABALEA

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Jun 25, 2002, 2:21:31 AM6/25/02
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Marcin Stragowski wrote:

> > And don't forget that the HP200LX has only 640K memory, a 80186-compatible
> you mean ram like memory ? ang how much ram have hp 100lx ?

Yes, the HP200LX has only 640k of RAM, just like an oooold PC. It can also
have a RAM based drive, to store your files. On my HP200, the total (main
memory+drive memory) is 2 MB. Some models have only 1 MB, some others 4
MB. This is expandable by 2 means: soldering a RAM chip inside the HP200,
and/or adding a SRAM or Flash PCMCIA card. CompactFlash with a
corresponding adapter runs fine. That's what I currently have, with a 32
MB CF card.

For the HP100LX, the main memory is of the same size, but I don't think
models with 4 MB existed.

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Janette

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Jun 25, 2002, 2:15:09 PM6/25/02
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A long time ago in a galaxy far far way Erwann ABALEA

<erw...@abalea.com> wrote:
>Yes, the HP200LX has only 640k of RAM, just like an oooold PC. It can also
>have a RAM based drive, to store your files. On my HP200, the total (main
>memory+drive memory) is 2 MB. Some models have only 1 MB, some others 4
>MB. This is expandable by 2 means: soldering a RAM chip inside the HP200,
>and/or adding a SRAM or Flash PCMCIA card. CompactFlash with a
>corresponding adapter runs fine. That's what I currently have, with a 32
>MB CF card.
People like http://www.thaddeus.com will upgrade your
hp200lx to double speed and up to 96 MB (64 if the 96 is not
available).

Erwann ABALEA

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Jun 25, 2002, 3:16:55 PM6/25/02
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Janette wrote:

> A long time ago in a galaxy far far way Erwann ABALEA
> <erw...@abalea.com> wrote:
> >Yes, the HP200LX has only 640k of RAM, just like an oooold PC. It can also
> >have a RAM based drive, to store your files. On my HP200, the total (main
> >memory+drive memory) is 2 MB. Some models have only 1 MB, some others 4
> >MB. This is expandable by 2 means: soldering a RAM chip inside the HP200,
> >and/or adding a SRAM or Flash PCMCIA card. CompactFlash with a
> >corresponding adapter runs fine. That's what I currently have, with a 32
> >MB CF card.

> People like http://www.thaddeus.com will upgrade your
> hp200lx to double speed and up to 96 MB (64 if the 96 is not
> available).

Yes, you're right. But even with these enhancements, the HP200 still uses
640k of main memory, it will run at the tremendous speed of 15.82 MHz,
with the same 16 bits CPU with no memory protection, no 32 bits registers,
no MMU, .... So no way to install anything better than Windows 3.0, and a
lot of programs won't work at all.

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Janette

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Jun 25, 2002, 6:22:42 PM6/25/02
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A long time ago in a galaxy far far way Erwann ABALEA
<erw...@abalea.com> wrote:
>Yes, you're right. But even with these enhancements, the HP200 still uses
>640k of main memory, it will run at the tremendous speed of 15.82 MHz,
>with the same 16 bits CPU with no memory protection, no 32 bits registers,
>no MMU, .... So no way to install anything better than Windows 3.0, and a
>lot of programs won't work at all.

But remember the hp200lx is basically the equivalant of an
IBM 80186. It will not meet your needs if you need a faster
processor, graphics higher than CGA, or more than basic
sound.

Speed is relative. I have numerous Windows CE devices, it
is still faster to fire up the 200lx and look for a name
on the phone list than use Windows CE or the desktop.
The software built into the 200lx is that good.
On the 200lx is I want to get a phone number all
I need to do is hit 2 buttons and I'm there. On the
Windows CE devices it takes longer.

Marcin Stragowski

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Jun 25, 2002, 7:10:56 PM6/25/02
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yeahh .. ok .. all fine .. but where can i get win 3.0 ? hmm? and / or see
the screens ?
thanx

Janette

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Jun 25, 2002, 9:15:55 PM6/25/02
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A long time ago in a galaxy far far way "Marcin Stragowski"
<no...@eranet.pl> wrote:

Try e-bay or some local computer shows. It is very
difficult to find now.....

Marcin Stragowski

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Jun 26, 2002, 8:52:08 AM6/26/02
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i found the website with all versions of old systems .. look
http://members.rogers.com/oldos/os.html
downloading is really simple .. and no NAG screens ..

Janette

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Jun 26, 2002, 3:41:51 PM6/26/02
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A long time ago in a galaxy far far way "Marcin Stragowski"
<No...@eranet.pl> wrote:

>i found the website with all versions of old systems .. look
>http://members.rogers.com/oldos/os.html
>downloading is really simple .. and no NAG screens ..

Use at your own risk.....my understanding a site like that
is very illegal. Yes these old OSs are now obsolete but
someone does own the rights to them....steal at your
own risk.....

Marcin Stragowski

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Jun 26, 2002, 6:19:11 PM6/26/02
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who cares ? somebody will close me in jail for steeling win 1.3 ? loool .;]
hehe


Janette

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Jun 26, 2002, 6:38:56 PM6/26/02
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A long time ago in a galaxy far far way "Marcin Stragowski"
<No...@eranet.pl> wrote:

>who cares ? somebody will close me in jail for steeling win 1.3 ? loool .;]
>hehe
>

Go ahead try it....you'll find out what happens when the
FBI pays you a visit.....

Marcin Stragowski

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Jun 26, 2002, 6:51:08 PM6/26/02
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FBI in poland ? lol ;] they can kiss me in **** ;]
in poland a norm human is more important than fbi agent ..
they don't have rights in our country ..


Marcin Stragowski

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Jun 26, 2002, 6:53:12 PM6/26/02
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and in our country is the kind of law record saying that the computer
programs older than 5 years are no more licensed ..


Jason T. Powell

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Jun 26, 2002, 8:09:33 PM6/26/02
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The FBI has bigger fish to fry at the moment then people using obsolete win
3.1 and dos 1.0

JTP


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Dude

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Jun 30, 2002, 12:11:28 PM6/30/02
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I never knew Windows couod be loaded onto a 2MB unit. How so? Do you use
a PCMCIA to CF adaptor?


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Dude

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Why go through all this trouble, but rather go buy yourself a HP Jornada
728. You get Windows CE, and all the graphics.

I wonder when they will be able to make a real computer the size of a HP
palmtop. I compared my HP Jornada 680 to the smalest laptops in the
market, and still they are A lot bit bulkier than my 680.

Janette

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A long time ago in a galaxy far far way nos...@nospam.com
(Dude) wrote:

>
>Why go through all this trouble, but rather go buy yourself a HP Jornada
>728. You get Windows CE, and all the graphics.

For the same reason people climb mountains....


>I wonder when they will be able to make a real computer the size of a HP
>palmtop. I compared my HP Jornada 680 to the smalest laptops in the
>market, and still they are A lot bit bulkier than my 680.

Actually there is a company that is about to come out with
a computer the size of a paper back book that will run
full windows......


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Jul 1, 2002, 2:42:38 PM7/1/02
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On 2002-06-30, Janette Ducharme wrote:

> Actually there is a company that is about to come out with
> a computer the size of a paper back book that will run
> full windows......

May I ask who you mean? :-) Well, book sizes differ, but if it
would be about the size of the HP 200LX or HP 48GX, it could
be *really* interesting.

Hopefully, it will not be Windows CE, but a normal compatible
x86 AT class machine with not more than 50 MHz, around 16 - 32 Mb
static RAM, a *good* keyboard and a *monochrom* LC display in a
solid housing, so that the batteries will last for weeks (or
even months in standby) instead of the usual few hours for
devices with color display and higher clock rates. And it must
be "open", so that you can put Linux or DOS on it, when you don't
want Windows, so that you can do real serious work on it.
Otherwise, you are more dependent on recharging the unit in
time, than what you could ever gain as extra freedom, it seems...

Greetings,

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Janette

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Jul 1, 2002, 5:15:47 PM7/1/02
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A long time ago in a galaxy far far way "Matthias Paul"

<Matthi...@post.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
>May I ask who you mean? :-) Well, book sizes differ, but if it
>would be about the size of the HP 200LX or HP 48GX, it could
>be *really* interesting.
It will be a full windows machine, not CE.

>Hopefully, it will not be Windows CE, but a normal compatible
>x86 AT class machine with not more than 50 MHz, around 16 - 32 Mb
>static RAM, a *good* keyboard and a *monochrom* LC display in a
>solid housing, so that the batteries will last for weeks (or
>even months in standby) instead of the usual few hours for
>devices with color display and higher clock rates. And it must
>be "open", so that you can put Linux or DOS on it, when you don't
>want Windows, so that you can do real serious work on it.
>Otherwise, you are more dependent on recharging the unit in
>time, than what you could ever gain as extra freedom, it seems...

I believe it is a pentium.....

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