Quicken vs MoneySpire

[Bob]

With Quicken being sold there is a chance that the managers involved (stake
holders, vested interest) may be able to make Quicken a premium product that
actually works without the hassle but then again it just may go down the
tubes.

Started looking at MoneySpire and downloaded the free version on my tablet
just to look it over and went into the demo mode. Looks decent enough and
it appears to have investment capabilities as Quicken Premier does.

Anyone actually test this and do a comparison between the two?

Thanks,

Bob S.

[Bob W.]

Your post is the first I've heard of MoneySpire. It does look good, so thanks for the tip. Have you tried importing from Quicken? If so, how well did that work for you?

[Bob W.]

I hate it when I answer my own questions, but this turned out to be easy to answer.

MoneySpire fails to import QIF from Quicken 2016 R7. It just goes to sleep, using no CPU and sits there forever. Literally a non-starter.

[danbrown]

I exported my Rollover IRA account (in Quicken) to a QIF, and tried to import it into MoneySpire.
I'm getting the same result as Bob W. It's just sitting there with 0 action apparent in the Win Task Manager. It just died.

Now granted, that account is one of my largest, which is why I chose it ... but there are no stated limits on QIF size of number of transactions that should cause the Import to die.

[Bob W.]

I tried with a small account with the same result.

[Zaidy036]

There are other programs available which I have not tried yet. I am
looking for a Quicken replacement that runs under Windows and iOS (iPad)
using the same data file and handles investments.

AceMoney
<http://www.mechcad.net/products/acemoney/personal-finance-software-quicken-alternative.shtml>
GnuCash <http://www.gnucash.org/>
jGnash <http://sourceforge.net/projects/jgnash/>
Mint <https://www.mint.com/>
MoneyDance <http://infinitekind.com/moneydance>
MoneySpire <http://www.moneyspire.com/>
MoneyWiz <http://moneywizapp.com/>

[nob...@nada.com]

Looking at Money Spire I have to ask if a much more complete and
useable program like Quicken is having a problem surviving, why woul
Money Spire not soon be on the way out.

[aviator]

The real question is who or what is behind Money Spire? I'm not willing to share my personal information with a company that posts so little about their investors and executive team.

[Zaidy036]

On 5/20/2016 5:20 PM, Zaidy036 wrote:
> On 5/1/2016 9:58 PM, Bob wrote:

SNIP

>
> There are other programs available which I have not tried yet. I am
> looking for a Quicken replacement that runs under Windows and iOS (iPad)
> using the same data file and handles investments.
>
> AceMoney
> <http://www.mechcad.net/products/acemoney/personal-finance-software-quicken-alternative.shtml>
>
> GnuCash <http://www.gnucash.org/>
> jGnash <http://sourceforge.net/projects/jgnash/>
> Mint <https://www.mint.com/>
> MoneyDance <http://infinitekind.com/moneydance>
> MoneySpire <http://www.moneyspire.com/>
> MoneyWiz <http://moneywizapp.com/>

Another one:
PocketMoney <http://www.catamount.com/pmd.html>

It would be appreciated if to see reports or comparisons from users of
these programs.

[EvilQuicken]

replying to Bob, EvilQuicken wrote:
I have just started using Moneyspire 2016's trial download version. . I have
been able to download transactions from one account. The import seems to be
very slow for another account so I will have to pay for the real one to verify
if transferring from Quicken is unique or not. Wait a week or so (6/1/16).

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[Bob]

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Thanks for the response and I look forward to your experience. Got caught
up in some other work and put this on a back burner for a few weeks.

Bob S.

[Bill A.]

replying to Bob W., Bill A. wrote:
Bob ... I found importing data from Quicken into Moneyspire to be incredibly
time-consuming. Plus, it had a problem handling transactions between accounts
that I had not already imported; hence, the time-sink. Finally, I decided it
was worth the risk to see how Quicken 2016 works. It does ... I don't
understand all the negative comments about installing; HOWEVER, here is what
I did:
1) ran the two programs that Intuit recommended
2) removed earlier TurboTax programs just the "heck" of it
3) backed up the registry and ....
searched for Quicken (quite a few)
searched for older versions of TurboTax (quite a few)
I rebooted my box and installed Quicken 2016. So far NO PROBLEMS!!!

[George]

replying to Bob, George wrote:
Moneyspire is a great Quicken alternative for me. Try their 2017 they made a
lot of improvements, especially with reports.

[danbrown]

I just gave MoneySpire another try ... with the 2017 version.
From Q Win 2017 I exported 2 QIF files. My Rollover IRA (one of my largest accounts) and one of my wife's retirement accounts (one of the smallest, with only 2 transactions in it).

The results were identical with both QIF files: "Unhandled Exception" Out of Bounds Exception (0)" and the only way that I could close the program was via Task Manager.

I.E., it failed again

[Andrew]

Doesn't give you a warm fuzzy feeling that if they were manipulating
data that was contained in your import that the program would not
somehow validity check the data before using it in an operation that
caused such a program check, does it?

Kind of like blinding dividing by a number without checking it is zero
to start with.

This is assuming that the error condition should be able to have been
avoided by data verification ahead of time.

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[geor...@gmail.com]

Quicken tends to export crap QIF files. Try again with the latest version of Moneyspire. I bet it will work. If not, contact their support. They are very responsive!

[danbrown]

My, My, My aren't you quite the apologist for Moneyspire ... after it has failed, in 2 separate tests of 2 different product years, even the simplest of tasks.

IT FAILED. Accept it.

[Marc Auslander]

danbrown <db3...@yahoo.com> writes:

>> > The results were identical with both QIF files: "Unhandled Exception" Out of Bounds Exception (0)" and the only way that I could close the program was via Task Manager.
>> >
>> > I.E., it failed again
>>
>> Quicken tends to export crap QIF files. Try again with the latest version of Moneyspire. I bet it will work. If not, contact their support. They are very responsive!
>

CS101 - if bad input produces a diagnostic error message that is
correct, it's the fault of the data. If any input data causes the app to
crash, it's a bug in the app no matter what the input looks like.

[danbrown]

Actually, Marc, I thought that was taught in CS99 (Remedial) ... which the Moneyspire apologist clearly needs to take.

[John Pollard]

georgie83 wrote ...

Quicken tends to export crap QIF files.

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Please do enlighten us on the source of your claim.

Quicken was the organization who created QIF files and defined their format.
So exactly how are they not following their own specifications?

[George]

replying to Marc Auslander, George wrote:
Understood but they are constantly making improvements to the app so chances
are if the app crashed on some bad data before and was reported to them, there
is a good chance it got fixed. I really suggest that everyone try out the
latests Moneyspire releases. The app is good and is being improved all the
time. Contact their support if you are having an issue they will help.

[Taxed and Spent]

On 8/30/2017 6:34 AM, George wrote:
> replying to Marc Auslander, George wrote:
> Understood but they are constantly making improvements to the app so chances
> are if the app crashed on some bad data before and was reported to them, there
> is a good chance it got fixed. I really suggest that everyone try out the
> latests Moneyspire releases. The app is good and is being improved all the
> time. Contact their support if you are having an issue they will help.
>

I am on non-subscription Q 2016 and don't do downloads from my financial
institutions, so I am probably set for the next quarter century.

[danbrown]

You have GOT TO BE a shill for Moneyspire. No one else would constantly promote such a piece of junk in the face of evidence (presented by myself and others) that it's a severely flawed product.

It can't even import a QIF file that only had 2 transactions in it. And, as John pointed out, Quicken INVENTED the QIF format ... so explain how they're getting it wrong!

[George]

replying to danbrown, George wrote:
Of course because computers and software never ever crash right... You can
bash Moneyspire or it's programmers all you want but Moneyspire is still an
excellent alternative to Quicken. In my opinion, the best.

[George]

replying to Taxed and Spent, George wrote:
Sure if you never update your computer or OS for 25 years. Remember what
happened with Quicken 2007 on Mac?

[danbrown]

Yes. It's still running on many computers.

And, you're still a shill. A file import should NEVER cause a program to crash.
It's just an immature, seriously flawed product.

[WillyWally]

replying to Bob W., WillyWally wrote:
Same experience that I had with Quicken 2013.

[KatG65]

replying to Bob W., KatG65 wrote:
I actually didn't have that problem until recently