OPEN QUICKEN NO FILES
BIG BOY
Quicken 2008
Have to use the backup on a USB drive to use the Quicken files.
In the past no need to use the backup.
R. C. White
Where do you WANT your Quicken files to be? Where did you put them before?
Your post is almost empty of details and we have to guess what you are
really asking. :>(
My guess is that you've OPENED your Backup file from that USB drive, rather
than Restored it from Backup. So Quicken now thinks that's the location for
the working copy of your file that it should use regularly. If that's
correct, then all you need to do is to Open it again and then use Backup to
put it back to where your working copy should be. Once you've done than,
then exit Quicken, use Windows Explorer to find that working copy, and click
on THAT .qdf file. It should open Quicken with that file loaded.
(Actually, of course, a Quicken "file" is a set of related files that
Quicken refers to as ONE file; loading the .qdf file gets the whole set.)
Once you've verified that your onscreen copy is, in fact, the version that
you expect and that it is current, use Backup again to put it onto that USB
drive once more. Finally, with your working copy still onscreen, simply
close Quicken as usual, either with the X in the corner or with File | Exit.
It will save the final current version of your file back into your new
chosen location, NOT onto the USB drive.
Next time you click on the Quicken icon from your Start menu, it should
start with your working copy loaded. Each time you decide to do a manual
Backup, be sure that the destination folder is on that USB drive or wherever
you want your backup - NOT your working copy - to be.
Normally, once Quicken is up and running with our own data loaded, we never
have to use the File | Open command again. Quicken just remembers where it
put our default file last time and opens that automatically each time we
start Quicken. If we use more than one Quicken file (keeping the books for
our Grandma or our church or some other entity, separate from our own
finances), things are not quite so simple, but for most of us, we never need
to remind Quicken where to find our files after our initial setup.
If I've guessed wrong about what you really are asking, please post back
with a clear statement of your question.
RC
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San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
r...@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
"BIG BOY" <lmill...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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Andrew DeFaria
Your post is almost empty of details and we have to guess what you are really asking. :>(
--
Andrew DeFaria
All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.
nano...@gmail.com
help with!
I'd like to get some information from Quicken on my old XP computer
onto my new MAC.
I realize Quicken Windows and MAC are different and require a fairly
intricate migration under ideal circumstances.
My circumstances are not ideal, as the XP computer is dead and I'm
accessing the hard drive direct via USB from my MAC.
Also, I never exported or backed anything up while using Quicken in
Windows.
I can view the Quicken folder, but obviously I can't run it. I was
hoping there would be an obvious filename, for example my account name
or something, but there is not.
The good news is I used Quicken for EXTREMELY basic operations, to
keep track of how much money in, out, for what, and when. In other
words, I never left the simple, main page accounting ledger or did any
computations or anything (aside from the balance it calculates
automatically).
I think/hope this simple information is somehow viewable -- even in a
messy text file I could put it together and that would be great.
I've tried opening some .dat files with text viewer in MAC but they
come up blank.
Is there any way I can retrieve this information in any format?
R. C. White
Are you talking to me? You didn't say "Hi, RC" or anything like that, so
I'm just guessing.
> I'd like to get some information from Quicken on my old XP computer
> onto my new MAC.
MAC? What's that? I'm joking, of course, but only partly. I know NOTHING
about the Mac, except little bits that I read here and there.
> Also, I never exported or backed anything up while using Quicken in
> Windows.
The good news is that you DO have at least one backup if you used Quicken in
Windows for more than a week or so. Find your *.qdf file; it should be up
to date as of the last time you actually used Quicken. If you didn't assign
a different name, it will be QDATA.QDF. There may be some related files
with the same name and different extensions, like QDATA.QEL, QDATA.IDX,
etc., depending on how YOU use Quicken; since you said you use it only
minimally, there may be only a couple of these. These related files make up
what we often call a "fileset", but Quicken calls the whole group "a Quicken
file". When Quicken copies or otherwise handles these files, it deals with
the whole set; when we use other Windows tools, such as Copy, we must
remember to include the full set, like QDATA.*. You probably don't need any
.dat files; Quicken will probably rebuild any of these that it needs.
Wherever you find that .qdf file, there should be a BACKUP subfolder. In
that BACKUP folder, you should find a series of Quicken filesets, dated a
week apart. If you used the default filename of QDATA, the latest of these
sets will be named QDATA1; earlier sets will be QDATA2, QDATA3, etc., with
the oldest probably QDATA5.
While I haven't dealt with Quicken for the Mac, my guess is that you will
need at least one full set of these files. The best one should be the
current QDATA.* file set; QDATA1.* would be next best, etc. As long as you
are moving one file from the PC to the Mac, you might as well move them all
if you have room on the Mac. And, of course, as soon as you get them onto
the Mac, BACK THEM UP somewhere safe so that you don't have to do all this
again!
I hope this helps. If not, post back and one of the Mac users here should
be able to give you some REAL help.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
r...@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
<nano...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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John Pollard
Here is a link to a Quicken knowledge base article on converting
data from Quicken for Windows to Quicken for the Mac.
If it isn't readily apparent from the kb article: you need to be
able to "run" Quicken for Windows in order to extract the data
to convert to the Mac. [And even then, the process is
cumbersome, flakey, and will not get all your data.]
I believe that there is at least one product for the Mac that
will allow you to run Windows programs (sorry, my Mac knowledge
is almost zero, and I don't remember the name of the product).
If you have the CD containing Quicken for Windows, you could
install Quicken for Windows to the Mac software that runs
Windows programs, use Quicken for Windows to do the extract from
the Windows Quicken data, and import to your Mac file.
--
John Pollard
First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
Please reply to newsgroup
John Pollard
> I believe that there is at least one product for the Mac that
> will allow you to run Windows programs (sorry, my Mac
> knowledge
> is almost zero, and I don't remember the name of the product).
> If you have the CD containing Quicken for Windows, you could
> install Quicken for Windows to the Mac software that runs
> Windows programs, use Quicken for Windows to do the extract
> from
> the Windows Quicken data, and import to your Mac file.
Sorry, I meant to add that if you have the software to run
Quicken for Windows on the Mac, I suspect you would be better
off to use Quicken for Windows as your regular Personal
Financial Software application. From everything I have read,
Quicken for the Mac is nowhere near as good as Quicken for
Windows.
gmalis1
>
> - Show quoted text -
The Mac products that you can use to Dual Boot your Mac between OS X
and Windows are either Parallels or Boot Camp.
Either product requires that you are using:
1 A Mac with an Intel processor
2 A Mac using Leopard OS X for Boot Camp, or any version of OS X for
Parallels
3 A previously unregistered version of Windows (Win 98, Win XP or Win
Vista).
gmalis1
The software that will allow you to partition your Mac hard drive and
dual boot your Mac as an OS X box OR a Windows box is either Parallels
or BootCamp.
Google both names and see the significant differences between the two.
nano...@gmail.com
kind enough to respond.
Oddly I could not find a QDATA.QDF file, any .qdf files at all, or any
"backup" directory. I certainly used it for over a week though! A
couple years? I searched myself and with the auto "finder," but I
copied and pasted the list of files here anyway in case I'm totally
nuts, missed it, or it might be of use.
I would hate to install Windows on my PC just to view this file once.
I mean that's all I really want, I could write it down by hand it need
be, it's just a couple pages...
Is this insane -- to email my Quicken directory to a family member
with an IBM, ask them to run it and look at it? I mean, would that
work?
The data is extremely impersonal, I don't even think it has my name
much less a bank account... I really used it like a notebook to jot
down money in, out, and date, only I wouldn't be able to lose it,
which obviously backfired...
My quicken directory:
xsell.dll
xport.dll
xmlparse.dll
xmlparse_tok.dll
whatsnew.wri
video.exe
UpdateContent.dll
txstuff.dll
ttaximp.dll
ttaxexpt.dat
titlebar.ini
techhelp.exe
TAX.THP
TAX.SCD
TAX.PRI
START.exe
sport.dll
splash.bmp
Sounds
Snap
SendError.ini
SendError.dll
RestartExe.exe
Release.txt
readme.wri
qwwin.dll
QWVER.DLL
qwutil.dll
qwsync.dll
qwsnap.dll
qwsb.dat
qwprem.dat
qwpr.dll
qwplan.dll
qwpkg.cfg
qwonline.dll
qwmain.dll
qwipa.dll
qwinver.dll
qwinet.dll
qwcntr.dll
qwapp.dll
qw.exe
qvault.dll
QUpdate.bmp
quicken.ico
qtax.dll
QShowHelp.dll
Qsetup.dll
qse.ini
qsapi.dll
qsapi_eng.dll
Qsapi
qsac.dll
qreqst_vs7.dat
qreports.dll
qrep.dll
Qnue
qnet.dll
qindex.dll
qif_ub.dat
QHI.HLP
qhi.exe
QHI.DAT
QHI.CNT
qdb.dll
qdappui.dll
qdapp.dll
QCONNECT.DLL
qcon32.dll
qcomutil.dll
qappid.ini
qaccess.dll
q.dat
printenv.exe
Premier
pnf.hlp
pkgsettings.ini
phash.dat
pfpro.dll
patchw32.dll
onlncall.dll
online.swf
online.dll
online_overview.swf
online_overview_sound.swf
olbservice.dll
olbackup.exe
ofxsdk_qw.dll
mvut14n.dll
mvtl14n.dll
mvsr14n.dll
mvmg14n.dll
mvmc14n.dll
mvix14n.dll
mvfs14n.dll
mvcl14n.dll
mvbk14n.dll
Movies
mmedia.ver
migration.dll
ltkrn70n.dll
ltfil70n.dll
licbrick.dll
lfpng70n.dll
lfcmp70n.dll
lfbmp70n.dll
lbtmngr.dll
lbt.dll
lbt_txsync.dll
lbt_taxexport.dll
lbt_rte.dll
lbt_qupddir.dll
lbt_qplus.dll
lbt_qcomrmnd.dll
lbt_pvsync.dll
lbt_excite.dll
khash.dat
Intellic.cat
INSTALL.INI
InetTools.dll
imveng.dll
icconfig.ini
ibill.dll
host.exe
helptl.dll
HaB
graphs.dll
glbread.txt
gdipapi.dll
fri.dat
err_rep.chm
ero.dat
dllapps_savgol.dll
dllapps_plan.dll
dllapps_frcast.dll
dllapps_ero.dll
dllapps_dedfnd.dll
dllapps_dbtred.dll
deluxe.ver
Deluxe
dellid.dll
dedfindr.dat
decapi.dll
dbghelp.dll
custprof.dll
Convert03
convert_stub.dll
convert_stub.dat
cnfirmfi.ini
cipher.dll
certs
cashgen.dll
cashflow.dll
calnote.dll
bpbox.ocx
BindContent.exe
billmind.exe
billmind_qwrmnd.dll
billmind_alrtpkg.dll
bgtbrwsr.dat
bgt.dll
bgt_pnf.dll
bagent.exe
atwork.dll
atwork_xprint.dll
alrtint8.dll
alert.dll
Han
0b49aa...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
> Oddly I could not find a QDATA.QDF file, any .qdf files at all, or any
> "backup" directory. I certainly used it for over a week though! A
> couple years? I searched myself and with the auto "finder," but I
> copied and pasted the list of files here anyway in case I'm totally
> nuts, missed it, or it might be of use.
>
If you used Quicken on the old computer, than some kind of drive on that
machine has the qdf and associated files that together make up the
Quicken file set. The listing of files you supplied look like the
program directory. For you now that is as useful as a completely empty
Formula 1 racetrack. What you want is the car, i.e. the Quicken file
set. I got confused looking at earlier posts in this thread, where
several people seemed to be posting with problems, including one who had
his Quicken files on a memory stick/thumbdrive. Those are the files you
want - if the qdf s not on the hard drive, then go find it somewhere
else, whereever you saved your data, or a backup of the data.
NOTE:
I have never converted Quicken for PC data to Mac compatible data, and if
I were to get a MAc (unlikely at this point) I likely would install
Windows on my Mac so as to get the capabilities of PC Quicken, which I
understand are superior to Mac Quicken.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
R. C. White
HOW did you search for .qdf files?
There are a lot of ways to look for files on a hard drive. You did not tell
us what method(s) you used. So maybe you've already tried what I'm about to
suggest. But it is as near failure-proof as any method I know. I often
call it "the brute force method", using the old MS-DOS commands that most of
us have forgotten - or never knew - in a Command Prompt windows, which many
of us call the "DOS window", even though we know it isn't really MS-DOS at
all. The easiest way to open a Command Prompt window, just type "cmd" into
the Search box and press Enter.
In the Command Prompt window, type:
dir c:\*.qdf /s /a
If you have a large drive with lots of files, you may have time for a cup of
coffee. And if you have multiple drives, you have to search each one
separately. But if you want to limit the search, you can specify the folder
or folders where the files might be.
As Han said, the list of files that you put into your last message is
useless for this purpose. Those are the executable files that actually run
Quicken and we all have an identical list on our own computers - and they
have nothing to do with your data.
Installing Quicken again on your computer - or on your friend's IBM - would
do you no good at all. The only useful file(s) for you are the .qdf file
and possibly a couple of related files with the same name and different
extensions.
RC
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San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
r...@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
<nano...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi RC, yes, I was talking to you, but my sincere thanks to everyone
> kind enough to respond.
>
> Oddly I could not find a QDATA.QDF file, any .qdf files at all, or any
> "backup" directory. I certainly used it for over a week though! A
> couple years? I searched myself and with the auto "finder," but I
> copied and pasted the list of files here anyway in case I'm totally
> nuts, missed it, or it might be of use.
>
> I would hate to install Windows on my PC just to view this file once.
> I mean that's all I really want, I could write it down by hand it need
> be, it's just a couple pages...
>
> Is this insane -- to email my Quicken directory to a family member
> with an IBM, ask them to run it and look at it? I mean, would that
> work?
>
> The data is extremely impersonal, I don't even think it has my name
> much less a bank account... I really used it like a notebook to jot
> down money in, out, and date, only I wouldn't be able to lose it,
> which obviously backfired...
>
> My quicken directory:
>
> xsell.dll
<SNIP>
nano...@gmail.com
for me.
I am searching the harddrive I yanked out of my old (dead, Windows)
computer and hooked up via USB to this MAC.
I don't want to run Quicken on a MAC or IBM, I don't really care about
Quicken per se, I just want the the information I entered into Quicken
on my old (dead, Windows) computer anyway way I can get it.
I never did save or backup in Quicken. When I opened quicken (on my
old Windows computer) I choose from the 4 accounts I had created.
When I exited it asked if I wanted to back up, I said no. When I
opened Quicken again, and choose the account again, it would have the
information I entered last time, so yes, I realize it was somehow
saving it.
MAC is a new and somewhat scary environment for me. The search I was
using is "finder," it is literally called that.
This finder works great on this MAC, and on the other, proper 30 gig
external hard drive I have hooked up.
I realized just now -- it does not work AT ALL on the 80 gig hard
drive I pulled out of my old computer and hooked up to this MAC. In
other words, I do not know how to automatically search the drive that
contains my Quicken information.
That may be a mini-project that requires completion before continuing
here, but in the meantime I figure it is at least worth asking --
1) Given that I never explicitly saved anything in Quicken, and my
QDATA.QDF file is not in my Quicken directory, is it safe to assume
Quicken saved this file to a directory other than Quicken?
2) If so, is there some default location I can check by hand, since I
do not seem to have the ability to search this hard disk
automatically?
Thank you for your help and patience!
Oilcan
files - the easiest one to find would be qdf. Then note the filename as you
would want all of the remaining files that have the same filename. For
example. Oilcan.qdf. I would then need all files that have the filename
Oilcan.*. The number of files may vary depending on your Quicken version
and the functionality you used.
Oilcan
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Han
@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
> This finder works great on this MAC, and on the other, proper 30 gig
> external hard drive I have hooked up.
So you know how to search. Good, and I am not making fun.
> I realized just now -- it does not work AT ALL on the 80 gig hard
> drive I pulled out of my old computer and hooked up to this MAC. In
> other words, I do not know how to automatically search the drive that
> contains my Quicken information.
I don't know how to work a Mac, but I think that finder should be able to
find files. Did you try, just for fun "*.*" without the quotes, on the
old PC drive? It at least should give you a lot of files.
The file that holds (in Q2008 - PC) the data for the last 4 accessed
files is quser.ini, I believe. It is a simple text file, and the Mac
should be able to open it. To just make sure it is not accidentally
saved over, make a copy of it before opening it with whatever textreader
your Mac uses.
The problem, as you say between the lines, is that the old PC is dead.
However, I don't remember whether the hard drive died, or the
powersupply, or the motherboard crapped out? This could be important for
us to help you more.
> That may be a mini-project that requires completion before continuing
> here, but in the meantime I figure it is at least worth asking --
>
> 1) Given that I never explicitly saved anything in Quicken, and my
> QDATA.QDF file is not in my Quicken directory, is it safe to assume
> Quicken saved this file to a directory other than Quicken?
I would think so. As Oilcan said, try looking in the My Documents
folder, or whatever path would lead there (it could depend on the version
of Windows you had). The files referenced in quser.ini should be on the
old drive.
> 2) If so, is there some default location I can check by hand, since I
> do not seem to have the ability to search this hard disk
> automatically?
I think that if the drive is not kaput, you should be able to search for
files on it. But I admit, even with the supposedly improved Vista search
capabilities, I can hardly find anything. At least on my old XP machine
I can get along with the built-in search functions.
> Thank you for your help and patience!
>
I'm not known to be patient, so don't thank me <wink>.
R. C. White
Did you even try what I suggested:
dir c:\*.qdf /s/a
RC
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San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
r...@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
<nano...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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wbertram
What file system were you using on the WINDOWS PC? NTFS or FAT32?
nano...@gmail.com
anything but I'll try to check more thoroughly.
Han, I did a very simple test. Basically, it finds everything on the
MAC. the letter "t" alone finds all files with the letter "t." As I
type more, it eliminates things, and if I type "the real kids" it
finds my mp3s by the band The Real Kids. On the old hard drive, it
finds nothing, ever. The word "the" finds nothing, the letter "t"
gives nothing, searching in a directory where I can see a file,
searching for that file name, gives nothing. * gives nothing, *.*
gives nothing, so, I am sure the finder works for MAC, but not for the
old drive.
RC, I don't see how I can do that. I am browsing from a MacBook, so I
cannot shell to DOS.
wbertram, the mac can apparently read the drive formatted for PC. I
can browse around by hand, open documents, move them to the MAC drive,
etc. However the search function of the mac does not work. File
system on windows is a good question, i have never heard of those
things and don't know. it was Windows XP if that's related.
I think I need to learn how to search this drive correctly. I can
shell to UNIX from this MAC. I can cd to my desktop which shows all
documents but not my external drives. I know minimal unix
commands... But my next guess is I should figure out how to access
this drive from the Unix prompt and try searching that way and see if
it finds anything.
Han
@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
What I know from Unix (very, VERY little), you should be able to browse
other drives. At least, I could using Ubuntu booted from a CD inserted
into a PC. (Download the image and burn it to a CD, it's freeware Unix).
I don't know whether your Mac has a CD drive or not.
The last alternative is to hook up your old hard drive to the USB port of
a PC. Any PC. Also hook up a flashdrive/memory stick. Then use the PC
to roam the old hard drive using PC software. It has to work, unless
there is something kaput on the drive. What killed your old PC setup?
JimH
>
> I think I need to learn how to search this drive correctly. I can
> shell to UNIX from this MAC. I can cd to my desktop which shows all
> documents but not my external drives. I know minimal unix
> commands... But my next guess is I should figure out how to access
> this drive from the Unix prompt and try searching that way and see if
> it finds anything.
>
My UNIX skills are a little rusty, but you can try the shell command....
find /NTFS_mountpoint_name -name "*.qdf" -print
Where NTFS_mountpoint_name is the root directory of the NTFS drive where
you suspect the Quicken files reside. Changing the "*.qdf" to "*" should
find all files. Hope this helps.
--
Jim
nano...@gmail.com
though I will keep at it.
I like the idea of hooking it up to a Windows PC. Odd that that
didn't occur to me. It is not the best thing for me to be doing at
work, but I will certainly bring it in and give it a discreet try...
Laura
<nano...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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How about a friend or neighbor if you should not be doing this type of thing
at the office?
Han
news:joNHj.54965$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
Or your local friendly computer store, such as Microcenter, or even our
local library computer help.
nano...@gmail.com
I got my QDATA files! The base one as well as QDATA1-QDATA5.QDF
When I started this (windows) computer (at work) with my drive hooked
up, it did some lengthy scanning and repairing process. I'm thinking
possibly I can pop it back in my old computer and it will boot up?
In the meantime I got greedy and tried running qw.exe and qhi.exe.
qw.exe looked like quicken was starting but it ultimately just hung
there...
Han
1beb52...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
> Good stuff!
>
> I got my QDATA files! The base one as well as QDATA1-QDATA5.QDF
Qdata files (plural!!!!!!!!) are the latest incarnation of the data.
Qdata1-5 are separate sets of automatic backups. Remember that you
really need all the qdata files, qdf, qph etc for each set.
> When I started this (windows) computer (at work) with my drive hooked
> up, it did some lengthy scanning and repairing process. I'm thinking
> possibly I can pop it back in my old computer and it will boot up?
I would not bet on it, but it may be worthwhile trying. However, given
what you say below ...
>
> In the meantime I got greedy and tried running qw.exe and qhi.exe.
>
> qw.exe looked like quicken was starting but it ultimately just hung
> there...
--
Laura
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It looks like you are making progress. That's good news.
I would forget your old computer as well as the mac. Install quicken on
another windows computer, copy the QDATA*.* files to that hard drive and try
opening it. If that one fails, then RESTORE (not open) one of the backups
(QDATA1....QDATA5) until you find one that is usable.
When I copy my quicken data files from one computer to another, I copy the
entire Quicken folder including the BACKUP sub-folder. Then I open the data
file on the new machine.
nano...@gmail.com
I put the drive back in my PC -- and it boots up and Quicken opens!
At this point transferring the data "by hand" is a pleasure!
Not only that but it is some added bonus that I have a functional,
albeit barely, Windows PC.
I cannot thank you all enough for your kindness and patience -- that
turned out much much better than I ever would have anticipated!
THANKS!
Han
13bbdd...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
No problem!
Consider good backing up <grin>.