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Antares 531

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:53:14 PM1/8/10
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I have recently changed over from MS Money to Quicken 2010, and am
still in the process of learning.

Is there any way to change the column widths? I have a wide screen
monitor, with plenty of horizontal space but the column widths are
sometimes too narrow to show all the data.

The specific screen I'm referring to is the Investment Tab then my
Brokerage Account. On this screen the number of shares column is
limited to too few spaces to show the entire decimal amount of the
number of shares.

I tried to widen one of these columns by clicking on the vertical
column edge at the top of the column, then dragging it to a greater
width but the screen went bonkers on me and I had to restore from an
earlier backup.

Is this a "Thou shalt NOT try to change the column width settings."
thing, or is there a way to do it that I haven't discovered, yet.

Thanks, Gordon

jJim Sweeney

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Jan 8, 2010, 8:13:58 PM1/8/10
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"Antares 531" <gordonl...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Gordon,

I don't know what you have already found. But
the little arrow in the upper left will free up that left panel. the columns
can be resized using the standard drag approach.
JPS


Antares 531

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Jan 8, 2010, 8:30:56 PM1/8/10
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 20:13:58 -0500, "jJim Sweeney" <jp...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I don't need to free up or close the left panel. My screen is large
enough to handle the whole setup with room to spare, but I can't get
the column widths set wider so all the numbers will show. I get
something like 55,35.. for the number of shares, etc.

I've tried the conventional drag and drop approach several times but
it always messes the display up and I have to restore from a backup.

I'm thinking there must be some setting that will turn these column
width settings over to me so I can manage them, but I must have that
setting set for "frozen" or some such. Gordon

R. C. White

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Jan 8, 2010, 9:53:23 PM1/8/10
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Hi, Gordon.

When you find the secret, please let us ALL know! :^}

I have found how to adjust SOME of the columns in SOME of the screens, but
too many are still set in concrete to a width that looks like nobody ever
bothered to test them with real data. And they have been this way for
YEARS, through many versions of Quicken.

For example, the To Do column at the far right of the Register screen. One
inch would be plenty wide, but it's three inches wide on my 17" LCD (normal
proportions, 1280x1024 resolution, 5:4 ratio). It's easy to turn it off -
once I find the location again (Edit | Preferences | Quicken Preferences |
Startup/Navigation - and then uncheck Dock Side Bar (for wide screens
only)). But I don't really want to turn it off; I just want to narrow it to
a reasonable width so that I can have more screen real estate for something
else that doesn't stay static all day every day. (Hmmm... I think I'll
turn it off for a few days and see how I like that.)

We can adjust the width of the Account Bar on the left - within limits
(between 1" and 2" on my screen) - by dragging the divider, but the one on
the right is either too-wide or off.

In Reports and in Portfolio view, the columns are somewhat adjustable by
dragging dividers in the headers, but not in the Registers. Wait a minute!
I can adjust widths in the Investment Register...Oh, that's because I have
that set to a single-line view; Banking Registers use a two-line view with
no one-line option. Nope, that's not it, either; when I set Investing
Registers to two-line view, they are still adjustable. And I think THIS is
the screen that is giving you trouble, isn't it?

>>> The specific screen I'm referring to is the Investment Tab then my
>>> Brokerage Account. On this screen the number of shares column is
>>> limited to too few spaces to show the entire decimal amount of the
>>> number of shares.

My Quicken 2010 Deluxe doesn't have an "Investment Tab". It has
"Investing", but the Register here doesn't even have a number of shares
column. Oh, wait! If I click Overview here, I get a screen called
"Holdings" that is much like the Portfolio view - and it does have a Shares
column - and these columns are adjustable normally, and I can make the
Shares column plenty wide, over 6" at least.

So the mystery deepens. There are a LOT of ways to adjust things in
Quicken, and some of them are very NON-Intuit-ive. :>( But maybe I just
need to spend some more time exploring - even in places where I wouldn't
expect to find things. Apparently they've added a lot over the years, but I
never learned them because I thought I already knew Quicken. ;^}

Thanks a lot, Gordon, for getting me started on this tonight. As you can
tell by this rambling post, I've just been learning new things as I've been
typing. I may spend hours playing with this new toy, now that you've got me
started. We may not have answered your question yet, but I've learned some
things about Quicken. (But I still can't adjust the width of that To Do
column on the right.)

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
r...@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Using Quicken Deluxe 2010 and Windows Live Mail in Win7 x64)

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pyotr filipivich

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Jan 9, 2010, 3:01:04 AM1/9/10
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Let the Record show that "R. C. White" <r...@grandecom.net> on or about
Fri, 8 Jan 2010 20:53:23 -0600 did write/type or cause to appear in
alt.comp.software.financial.quicken the following:

>Hi, Gordon.
>
>When you find the secret, please let us ALL know! :^}
>
>I have found how to adjust SOME of the columns in SOME of the screens, but
>too many are still set in concrete to a width that looks like nobody ever
>bothered to test them with real data. And they have been this way for
>YEARS, through many versions of Quicken.
>
>For example, the To Do column at the far right of the Register screen. One
>inch would be plenty wide, but it's three inches wide on my 17" LCD (normal
>proportions, 1280x1024 resolution, 5:4 ratio). It's easy to turn it off -
>once I find the location again (Edit | Preferences | Quicken Preferences |
>Startup/Navigation - and then uncheck Dock Side Bar (for wide screens
>only)). But I don't really want to turn it off; I just want to narrow it to
>a reasonable width so that I can have more screen real estate for something
>else that doesn't stay static all day every day. (Hmmm... I think I'll
>turn it off for a few days and see how I like that.)

It as just this attention to detail back in '05 which made me
conclude that nothing was better for '06. Unfortunately, using
nothing hasn't been all that productive, but I have more screen
space.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

Cal Tinson

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Jan 9, 2010, 8:03:11 AM1/9/10
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A reply I got about a year ago with the same problem:

> A new user in the Quicken Community Forums came up with the solution:
> "Right click on icon, click compatability tab under properties,
> check disable display scaling on high DPI settings." (NOTE: he means
> the icon that opens Quicken.)
>
> The fix works on both the investment register and reports. Amazed no
> one from Intuit has ever noticed, documented, or fixed this, since
> many of us old goats always set up our computers with increased
> Windows dpi settings.

R. C. White

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Jan 9, 2010, 9:16:52 AM1/9/10
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Hi, Cal.

That "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings" box in Compatibility
seems to have no such effect on my system. I've always left that box
Unchecked, so I put a check in it this morning and did a short test of some
of the changes I discovered last night (see my Reply to Gordon). In my
short test, I saw no difference with having that box checked or not.

I'll stand by for reports from you and/or others as to your findings.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
r...@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Using Quicken Deluxe 2010 and Windows Live Mail in Win7 x64)

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Cal Tinson

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Jan 9, 2010, 9:57:47 AM1/9/10
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On 1/9/2010 9:16 AM eastern, R. C. White wrote:
> Hi, Cal.
>
> That "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings" box in Compatibility
> seems to have no such effect on my system. I've always left that box
> Unchecked, so I put a check in it this morning and did a short test of
> some of the changes I discovered last night (see my Reply to Gordon).
> In my short test, I saw no difference with having that box checked or not.
>
> I'll stand by for reports from you and/or others as to your findings.
>
> RC

Hi, RC - I would guess you are not using a high Windows DPI setting
(like my 143 DPI) since you are able to change some column widths to
some degree without all hell breaking loose. That happened to me and to
the OP to the point where columns disappeared irretrievably, etc., and
we both had to do restores. (I assume the OP is also using a high
setting, although he hasn't said yet.)

BTW, by replying above your quote of my reply, the quote got treated
treated as part of your sig, and thus does not show in this reply. I
haven't bothered to try to include it, since anyone interested can
always go back to look at it.

Antares 531

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Jan 9, 2010, 8:13:07 PM1/9/10
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Sorry I dropped off the radar today. We had a family funeral and I was
out of town.

My monitor is an HP w2408 Wide LCD with the resolution set at 1920 X
1200. There is an abundance of horizontal space on any of these
Quicken screens with columns. I should be able to change the column
width with no interference or problems because of screen resolution or
size.

This monitor can be rotated into a vertical (portrait) or horizontal
(landscape) alignment. I am using it in the horizontal orientation,
but I really don't think this has anything to do with the described
Quicken problem.

The drag and drop method for adjusting column widths acts like it is
going to work, but just as I begin to drag the column divider the
whole screen goes into a state of chaos and can not be restored except
by closing then opening an earlier backup file. Gordon

Antares 531

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Jan 10, 2010, 10:42:54 AM1/10/10
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 20:13:58 -0500, "jJim Sweeney" <jp...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>

I don't seem to have the little arrow that you mention. I did click on
the cog wheel icon at the top right of my portfolio screen, then
clicked on the ? mark at the lower left of the pop-up, and found the
following, but the process doesn't work. I have been doing this and
always get the messed up screen.

(snip several lines)

To resize Portfolio columns
Move your pointer to the top of a column heading, where you see the
labels Name, Price, and so on.
Place the pointer on the line that marks the border between two labels
(at the point where the display of the pointer changes to a
double-headed arrow).
Click the mouse button and hold it down, and then move the pointer to
widen or narrow the column width.

(And the whole screen goes to hell in a handbasket - Gordon)

Han

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Jan 10, 2010, 10:57:45 AM1/10/10
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Antares 531 <gordonl...@swbell.net> wrote in
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> To resize Portfolio columns
> Move your pointer to the top of a column heading, where you see the
> labels Name, Price, and so on.
> Place the pointer on the line that marks the border between two labels
> (at the point where the display of the pointer changes to a
> double-headed arrow).
> Click the mouse button and hold it down, and then move the pointer to
> widen or narrow the column width.

This is the way Quicken has always worked. Certainly in 2008 and now
2010 versions

> (And the whole screen goes to hell in a handbasket - Gordon)

That's convenient! (The handbasket, I mean)

I seem to remember that at some point there were conflicts between
certain videocards and Quicken, but that is a very vague remembrance.
So, can you replicate your problem if you set your videocard and monitor
to something very simple, like VGA? It'll look awful, I suspect, but
maybe you can focus better on what the problem is.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Cal Tinson

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Jan 10, 2010, 11:42:21 AM1/10/10
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On 1/9/2010 8:13 PM eastern, Antares 531 wrote:

> The drag and drop method for adjusting column widths acts like it is
> going to work, but just as I begin to drag the column divider the
> whole screen goes into a state of chaos and can not be restored except
> by closing then opening an earlier backup file. Gordon

Have you tried the suggestion in my first reply in this thread? Betcha
dollars to donuts that you haven't, and that if you do it will work.

Antares 531

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Jan 10, 2010, 12:51:08 PM1/10/10
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Cal, I tried to try the suggestion but could not figure out which icon
I was supposed to click on. The Quicken icon in the toolbar at the
bottom of the screen does not show anything that could be interpreted
as a "Compatibility tab." I tried several other icons on some of the
screens but never found the sequence indicated. Gordon

Cal Tinson

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Jan 10, 2010, 1:08:32 PM1/10/10
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Hi, Gordon - As more or less <vbg> noted in the reply (I now remember I
had to read it several times when I had the identical problem you do):

1. Right click on the icon that opens Quicken.
2. Left click on Properties.
3. Left click on the Compatibility tab.
4. Select by left clicking in the box (I'm assuming it's not already
selected) "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings".

Antares 531

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Jan 10, 2010, 2:29:11 PM1/10/10
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:08:32 -0500, Cal Tinson
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Got it and it works, now. Thanks, Cal. I was confused as to what icon
I was to right click. I thought the icon on the task bar when Quicken
was running was the icon that I should click, but I see it was the
desktop icon instead. I have my desktop icons hidden except when I
need them, so I never got around to right clicking this one.

But, there is now a new problem...the whole screen arrangement has
been changed and there are now two panels side by side...Holdings and
Accounts Attributes...I can view all the details on the Holdings panel
by scrolling but in the earlier layout it was stretched across the
entire screen and I didn't need to scroll.

This is not really a problem in that the columns that I would have to
scroll to the right to see aren't needed often, and I can easily
scroll to the right when I do need to look at them.

Thanks, Gordon

Cal Tinson

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Jan 10, 2010, 4:04:18 PM1/10/10
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On 1/10/2010 2:29 PM eastern, Antares 531 wrote:

> Got it and it works, now. Thanks, Cal. I was confused as to what icon
> I was to right click. I thought the icon on the task bar when Quicken
> was running was the icon that I should click, but I see it was the
> desktop icon instead. I have my desktop icons hidden except when I
> need them, so I never got around to right clicking this one.
>
> But, there is now a new problem...the whole screen arrangement has
> been changed and there are now two panels side by side...Holdings and
> Accounts Attributes...I can view all the details on the Holdings panel
> by scrolling but in the earlier layout it was stretched across the
> entire screen and I didn't need to scroll.
>
> This is not really a problem in that the columns that I would have to
> scroll to the right to see aren't needed often, and I can easily
> scroll to the right when I do need to look at them.
>
> Thanks, Gordon

Welcome, Gordon - glad it now works.

On the new two panel problem, you apparently used the Overview feature.
From Quicken Help:

"Use the account Overview page
About using the account Overview page
Use the account Overview page to edit your account number, assign a
credit limit to a credit card account, set tax attributes for retirement
accounts and other tax-deferred accounts, or simply to help you remember
when you last reconciled your bank statement.

Open the account you want to work with.
Click the Overview button. "
(snip)

To get rid of the second panel to eliminate scrolling, click the
Transactions button to the right of the Overview button. (I'd never used
Overview before, but just got it from the above, and had a devil of a
time figuring out how to get rid of it!!)

Antares 531

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Jan 10, 2010, 6:39:16 PM1/10/10
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Thanks, Cal. This does get rid of the Account Attributes panel, but I
can't read the number of shares held in each account if I use the
Transactions window. The Transactions window is what I use when I buy
or sell, but when I'm just checking my records I need to see the
number of shares held in each account. This seems to be available only
in the Overview panel.

The Account Attributes panel to the right of the Holdings panel in the
Overview window is fine other than I sometimes have to scroll to the
right to see all the columns. No problem, but if I could squish that
Account Attributes panel down a bit there would be no need to scroll.

Anyway, I'm very glad to have the Overview window's Holdings panel set
with workable column widths. This was the problem that was bugging me.

Thanks for your help. Gordon

Cal Tinson

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Jan 10, 2010, 7:13:55 PM1/10/10
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On 1/10/2010 6:39 PM eastern, Antares 531 wrote:

> Thanks, Cal. This does get rid of the Account Attributes panel, but I
> can't read the number of shares held in each account if I use the
> Transactions window. The Transactions window is what I use when I buy
> or sell, but when I'm just checking my records I need to see the
> number of shares held in each account. This seems to be available only
> in the Overview panel.
>
> The Account Attributes panel to the right of the Holdings panel in the
> Overview window is fine other than I sometimes have to scroll to the
> right to see all the columns. No problem, but if I could squish that
> Account Attributes panel down a bit there would be no need to scroll.
>
> Anyway, I'm very glad to have the Overview window's Holdings panel set
> with workable column widths. This was the problem that was bugging me.
>
> Thanks for your help. Gordon

Hi, Gordon - If I understand what you're looking for, try using the
Portfolio feature, where there are a number of preprogrammed displays,
plus the ability to customize a display to include the items you want to
see.

John Pollard

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Jan 11, 2010, 9:32:29 AM1/11/10
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Antares 531 wrote:
>
> But, there is now a new problem...the whole screen arrangement has
> been changed and there are now two panels side by side...Holdings and
> Accounts Attributes...I can view all the details on the Holdings panel
> by scrolling but in the earlier layout it was stretched across the
> entire screen and I didn't need to scroll.
>
> This is not really a problem in that the columns that I would have to
> scroll to the right to see aren't needed often, and I can easily
> scroll to the right when I do need to look at them.

I know of no way to directly control the size or placement of the panes on
the Overview tab of any account. I think Quicken uses some sort of
algorithm that determines how best to display those panes.

I think a number of factors may be considered, including the screen width,
screen resolution, font size, window size and other objects in the Quicken
window that use horizontal space - like the Account Bar. With my current
configuration: if I remove the Quicken Account Bar, my investment account
Overview screen displays the Account Attributes pane alongside the
Holdings pane ... if I add the Account Bar back, then the Account
Attributes pane drops down and the Holdings pane is alone above the
Account Attributes and Account Status panes.

The true width of the (notebook) monitor I am viewing this on is 12 3/4 ";
resolution: 1280 x 1024; font size: normal

Q2010 RPM R3 Windows XP Pro SP3.

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JimH

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Jan 11, 2010, 7:53:50 PM1/11/10
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The overview panel rearranges itself if the Quicken window is too wide.
I found a usable width, and I'm careful not to change it.

--
Jim

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