Matrox Tweak Utility 4.18 Settings
Richard Lipscomb
the AGP tab, the AGP Bus speed is set at "default" and the current
chipset speed shows 1x and the current video card speed also shows 1x,
yet the g400 is capable of 4x. Should I keep the "default" setting or
change it to 4x?
Under the D3D tab, should I force vxync on?
Thanks,
Rich
Richard Lipscomb
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>I just downloaded the Matrox Tweak Utility. I have a g400 and under
>the AGP tab, the AGP Bus speed is set at "default" and the current
>chipset speed shows 1x and the current video card speed also shows 1x,
>yet the g400 is capable of 4x. Should I keep the "default" setting or
>change it to 4x?
>
I went ahead and changed it to 4x and when I appplied the change and
rebooted, it still showed the AGP speed of only 1x. The BIOS is set
for 4x. I am not overclocking at the moment (either the cpu or g400).
I also tried 2x, but it also reverted to 1x as well. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.
sirhardi
I have the MVT30 PR2, is that included?
sir
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mbrock
drivers and reinstalling them again. That worked for me on an old tweak
utility from matrox. You may want to look at your serial number to make sure
that it is a 4X card some of the earlier G400 were not 4X the serial if it
is 4X should be like this with a 4A in it G4MMDH4A32G. Hope that helped
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Richard Lipscomb
>Bios setting are set to 4X and they are enabled? If so try uninstalling your
>drivers and reinstalling them again. That worked for me on an old tweak
>utility from matrox. You may want to look at your serial number to make sure
>that it is a 4X card some of the earlier G400 were not 4X the serial if it
>is 4X should be like this with a 4A in it G4MMDH4A32G. Hope that helped
Bios options are 4x and 2x on my CUSL2 and 4x is selected. The tweak
utility recognizes my card as 4x capable, yet I can't get the 2x or 4x
selection to stick - it always reverts to 1x speed. I'd take 2x at
this point - any ideas?
Thanks,
Rich
mbrock
false reading try using version 411 or 414 of the utility. One more thing
is the do you have any PCI cards in the first PCI slot. It may be shared
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Richard Lipscomb
>Have you reinstalled the drivers? If so just to make sure that it is not a
>false reading try using version 411 or 414 of the utility. One more thing
>is the do you have any PCI cards in the first PCI slot. It may be shared
>with the AGP bus.
I haven't reinstalled the drivers yet and there are no cards in PCI
slot 1. Where can I get version 4.14?
Thanks
Rich
Karl
directly to you if you wish.
I wouldn't worry about AGP 4X though as it makes very little difference at
the moment.
Karl
mbrock
was jus reporting incorrectly you can get it here.
http://www.entechtaiwan.com/ps.htmnews:3ac2c2b1$0$62151$2c3e...@news.voyager.net...
Richard Lipscomb
I'd settle for 2x right know instead of the 1x it is now running at.
I may take you up on that if I hit a dead-end on this.
Thanks,
Rich
Richard Hopkins
> I just downloaded the Matrox Tweak Utility. I have a g400 and under
> the AGP tab, the AGP Bus speed is set at "default" and the current
> chipset speed shows 1x and the current video card speed also shows 1x,
> yet the g400 is capable of 4x.
What about your motherboard, is that cable of 4x?
> Should I keep the "default" setting or change it to 4x?
Neither. Force 2x. As mentioned elsewhere, it's just as fast as 4x, but more
stable.
> Under the D3D tab, should I force vxync on?
No, turn it off.
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> What tweak utility are you guys talking about ?
The Matrox Technical Support Tweak Utility version 4.x
> I have the MVT30 PR2, is that included?
If it's not a Matrox G200/G400/G450, no.
Richard Hopkins
Don't bother, it won't make any difference. 4.14 and 4.18 are exactly the
same as far as the AGP control setup is concerned, so the older utility will
say whatever 4.18 does.
sirhardi
I have the G400, still dont know what you're refering to, would you have a
link ?
sir
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Richard Lipscomb
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>"Richard Lipscomb" <rlip...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> I just downloaded the Matrox Tweak Utility. I have a g400 and under
>> the AGP tab, the AGP Bus speed is set at "default" and the current
>> chipset speed shows 1x and the current video card speed also shows 1x,
>> yet the g400 is capable of 4x.
>
>What about your motherboard, is that cable of 4x?
Yes - it is an Asus cusl2 and the AGP options in the BIOS are 4x and
2x. 4x is presently selected.
>> Should I keep the "default" setting or change it to 4x?
>
>Neither. Force 2x. As mentioned elsewhere, it's just as fast as 4x, but more
>stable.
Forced 2x, but after reboot, it is still showing 1x.
>> Under the D3D tab, should I force vxync on?
>
>No, turn it off.
ok - did that.
Any other ideas?
Thanks,
Rich
Richard Lipscomb
This site is also good:
http://forums.matroxusers.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro
sirhardi
sir
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Richard Hopkins
"Richard Lipscomb" wrote in message...
>
> >What about your motherboard, is that cable of 4x?
>
> Yes - it is an Asus cusl2 and the AGP options in the BIOS are 4x
> and 2x. 4x is presently selected.
>
> > stable.
>
> Forced 2x, but after reboot, it is still showing 1x.
>
Have a look at DXDiag to see if your AGP acceleration is enabled. Plus, I
take it you've installed the current 815e chipset drivers?
BJØRN INGE LØLAND
PLL clock on 301MHz on my G400. Works fine. on the benchmark 2001 test i
score 998 when the card is on default settings. (ca: 251,50MHz) On 301MHz i
score 1116. If you are a gamer, you will notice it a litte! trust me! (P-III
600MHz)
-Geir B Løland-
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Richard Hopkins
"BJØRN INGE LØLAND"...
> Why don`t you just download MGA Tweak?
Why would he want to use that? The utility he already has overclocks the
card more effectively than MGATweak can.
> I am running the PLL clock on 301MHz on my G400. Works fine.
If that's as far as it will go with MGATweak before you get visible
corruption, you will find it will go a bit further if you overclock it with
the Matrox utility.
> If you are a gamer, you will notice it a litte! trust me!
Yes, but not in the way you are thinking. If he's already overclocked his
card with the Matrox utility, he would find it *slower* when overclocked
with MGATweak.
Richard Lipscomb
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>"Richard Lipscomb" wrote in message...
>>
>> >What about your motherboard, is that cable of 4x?
>>
>> Yes - it is an Asus cusl2 and the AGP options in the BIOS are 4x
>> and 2x. 4x is presently selected.
>>
>> > Force 2x. As mentioned elsewhere, it's just as fast as 4x, but more
>> > stable.
>>
>> Forced 2x, but after reboot, it is still showing 1x.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>
>Have a look at DXDiag to see if your AGP acceleration is enabled. Plus, I
>take it you've installed the current 815e chipset drivers?
ok, time to show my ignorance - what or where is DXDiag and how can I
find out what 815e chipset driver I presently have and what is the
latest?
Thanks again,
Rich
Richard Lipscomb
before installing it, I uninstalled the g400 driver and I went into
the BIOS and changed the video to onboard - big mistake. Upon exiting
the bios, the screen went blank and I have no video. How can I reset
the bios given I can't see a thing. Please help. Thanks.
Rich
Richard Lipscomb
on the MB to reset the bios.
I ran the Intel driver setup program, but it totally crashed my
computer and I had to revert to last good configuration. Any advice
on installing this. According to the Intel readme file, you run it
within Windows 2000, but others recommend safe mode. I did it both
ways and crashed each time. Any success stories on installing this?
Thanks again,
Rich
Richard Lipscomb
driver. I ran "setup.exe -s" from safe mode. I think I'll try
overclocking the g400 tomorrow. My only concern now is that the
Matrox Tweak Utility only goes to 120% - I had hoped to go a little
higher.
Thanks for the intel driver info.
Rich
Fritze
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Videolink
Richard Lipscomb
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:52:24 GMT, Videolink <vid...@istar.ca> wrote:
>Where do we get this utility?
Matrox web site.
Videolink
Richard Lipscomb
>gee thats a big help!
Once you get to the web site, look for the Matrox Tweak Utility which
is appropriate for your paraticular card.
http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/files/ftp_util2.cfm
good luck.
Richard Hopkins
"Richard Lipscomb" <rlip...@yahoo.com> wrote in message...
> Success finally. I have AGP 4x now after installing the Intel chipset
> driver.
Ah, yeah, that might have had something to do with it...
> I think I'll try overclocking the g400 tomorrow.
Set it back to 2x before you try that. You will be able to overclock it
further than you will running 4x transfers. As mentioned elsewhere, there's
no performance penalty involved in this, so do it...
> My only concern now is that the Matrox Tweak Utility only goes to
> 120%
That is plenty. You'll likely hit the limit of the card before you hit the
limit of the overclocking utility.
> I had hoped to go a little higher.
Hope and reality are two totally different things. It's unlikely you'll get
your card going 20% faster than default without doing something with the
cooling.
Richard Lipscomb
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>"Richard Lipscomb" <rlip...@yahoo.com> wrote in message...
>> Success finally. I have AGP 4x now after installing the Intel chipset
>> driver.
>
>Ah, yeah, that might have had something to do with it...
>
>> I think I'll try overclocking the g400 tomorrow.
>
>Set it back to 2x before you try that. You will be able to overclock it
>further than you will running 4x transfers. As mentioned elsewhere, there's
>no performance penalty involved in this, so do it...
I set the slide to 120% and rebooted, but I got the same 3dMark 2000
scores (default settings) first at 4x, then at 2x. What really is
depressing is that the scores are about 5 points higher than before I
overclocked the g400. There seems to be no increase in performance
with overclocking this card. Is there something else I should try?
>
>That is plenty. You'll likely hit the limit of the card before you hit the
>limit of the overclocking utility.
>
>> I had hoped to go a little higher.
>
>Hope and reality are two totally different things. It's unlikely you'll get
>your card going 20% faster than default without doing something with the
>cooling.
I took off the heatsink and put a cooler on it - now it looks like a
max - I just wish it would run like one.
Rich
Richard Hopkins
That wasn't a particularly good idea. It would have been much more
constructive to start at, say, 10% and work up. As I mentioned previously,
your card is unlikely to run stably at +20%, and by going straight there,
you could potentially have damaged it. As it is, it sounds as though the
tweak utility hasn't applied the overclock, which is, on balance, probably a
good thing.
> but I got the same 3dMark 2000 scores (default settings) first
> at 4x, then at 2x.
I do recall mentioning there was no performance difference between AGP 2x
and 4x. .
> What really is depressing is that the scores are about 5 points higher
> than before I overclocked the g400.
The overclock either hasn't applied at all, or if it has, you've not got
anything like 20% extra PLL speed. When you applied the overclock, I take it
you selected that it should be permanent? If so, you should see the permaclk
DOS window appearing briefly during Windows startup, at the same time as a
brief screen flicker.
The only other explanation is that you have indeed overclocked the PLL 20%,
but that at that speed the GPU and/or memory aren't working efficiently, and
you've pushed beyond the level that will return optimal performance.
> There seems to be no increase in performance
> with overclocking this card.
Erm, no. There is a noticeable gain to be had from overclocking the G400.
Sure, it's not going to turn your card into a GeForce, but nevertheless, you
should be able to get an extra 10% without too much difficulty.
> Is there something else I should try?
The first thing you should do is make sure you have actually applied the
overclock. Try running through the Tweak Utility's overclock routine again.
You will learn a lot when you go into the AGP tab of the utility. If you see
the clock speed indicated as 100%, the overclock didn't apply.
If it hasn't (and even if it has), set the slider to 10% (no higher,
initially), apply the overclock permanently and reboot. Then run 3DMark 2000
and see what the figures turn out as.
> I took off the heatsink and put a cooler on it - now it looks like a
> max
Hope it doesn't look *too* much like a Max. The standard Max heatsink is
crap...
> I just wish it would run like one.
It won't. If you are *really* lucky, you might be able to get it to run at
301MHz PLL, which is almost the speed of a non-overclocked G400 Max, but
it's more likely that you'll have to settle for something in the 280-290MHz
range.
The Max has faster memory than the vanilla G400, so there's no way you'll
get your card to run as fast as a good Max will go.
Richard Lipscomb
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>"Richard Lipscomb" <rlip...@yahoo.com> wrote in message...
>> I set the slide to 120% and rebooted,
>
>That wasn't a particularly good idea. It would have been much more
>constructive to start at, say, 10% and work up. As I mentioned previously,
>your card is unlikely to run stably at +20%, and by going straight there,
>you could potentially have damaged it. As it is, it sounds as though the
>tweak utility hasn't applied the overclock, which is, on balance, probably a
>good thing.
How can I tell if it is damaged? Are there any diagnostic tests I can
run. I'd rather find out sooner rather than trying to get more
performance out of a damaged card.
>> but I got the same 3dMark 2000 scores (default settings) first
>> at 4x, then at 2x.
>
>I do recall mentioning there was no performance difference between AGP 2x
>and 4x. .
>
>> What really is depressing is that the scores are about 5 points higher
>> than before I overclocked the g400.
>
>The overclock either hasn't applied at all, or if it has, you've not got
>anything like 20% extra PLL speed. When you applied the overclock, I take it
>you selected that it should be permanent? If so, you should see the permaclk
>DOS window appearing briefly during Windows startup, at the same time as a
>brief screen flicker.
Yes - I selected permanent and I do see the Dos window.
>The only other explanation is that you have indeed overclocked the PLL 20%,
>but that at that speed the GPU and/or memory aren't working efficiently, and
>you've pushed beyond the level that will return optimal performance.
>
>> There seems to be no increase in performance
>> with overclocking this card.
>
>Erm, no. There is a noticeable gain to be had from overclocking the G400.
>Sure, it's not going to turn your card into a GeForce, but nevertheless, you
>should be able to get an extra 10% without too much difficulty.
>
>> Is there something else I should try?
>
>The first thing you should do is make sure you have actually applied the
>overclock. Try running through the Tweak Utility's overclock routine again.
>You will learn a lot when you go into the AGP tab of the utility. If you see
>the clock speed indicated as 100%, the overclock didn't apply.
>
>If it hasn't (and even if it has), set the slider to 10% (no higher,
>initially), apply the overclock permanently and reboot. Then run 3DMark 2000
>and see what the figures turn out as.
I changed the AGP to 2x and reduced the slide to 10%. I ran 3DMark
2000 again, but the exact same result.
>> I took off the heatsink and put a cooler on it - now it looks like a
>> max
>
>Hope it doesn't look *too* much like a Max. The standard Max heatsink is
>crap...
I put a Tennmax Lasagna type B cooler on it
>> I just wish it would run like one.
>
>It won't. If you are *really* lucky, you might be able to get it to run at
>301MHz PLL, which is almost the speed of a non-overclocked G400 Max, but
>it's more likely that you'll have to settle for something in the 280-290MHz
>range.
>
>The Max has faster memory than the vanilla G400, so there's no way you'll
>get your card to run as fast as a good Max will go.
I do have the 5ns ram as opposed to the 6ns
Richard Lipscomb
permanent and reboot, MTU shows that it is at 105%. However, after I
run 3DMark 2000 and go back into MTU, it shows 100%.
This might explain why I'm not getting any better 3DMark scores, but
how can I get the higher clock rates to "stick" rather than backing
down to 100%.
Thanks,
Rich
Richard Lipscomb
they both caused the g400 to revert back to 100% in MTU. So it seems
that any stress to the card when overclocking is not causing it to
back down to 100%, but something else. What could be causing any
setting in MTU to automatically revert to 100%?
Thanks,
Rich
Richard Hopkins
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It's not. If it was, you wouldn't be asking me how you could tell, you would
see obvious screen corruption, instabiltiy and so-on.
> I'd rather find out sooner rather than trying to get more
> performance out of a damaged card.
Your card is fine. Suggest you check to see if the user is damaged! ;-)
> Yes - I selected permanent and I do see the Dos window.
The Permaclock utility has certain safeguards built in that will result in
it not overclocking the card in certain circumstances. For example, if the
PC wasn't shut down correctly last time.
> >The only other explanation is that you have indeed overclocked the PLL
20%,
> >but that at that speed the GPU and/or memory aren't working efficiently,
and
> >you've pushed beyond the level that will return optimal performance.
> >
> >> There seems to be no increase in performance
> >> with overclocking this card.
> I changed the AGP to 2x and reduced the slide to 10%. I ran 3DMark
> 2000 again, but the exact same result.
You must be doing something wrong somewhere. The overclock is not being
applied to your card.
> I put a Tennmax Lasagna type B cooler on it
Never seen one. I use a spare Intel FC-PGA heatsink/fan. Works very well.
> I do have the 5ns ram as opposed to the 6ns
Can't remember what card had which RAM.
> I noticed after I set the MTU to a higher level (I tried 105%), make
> permanent and reboot, MTU shows that it is at 105%. However,
> after I run 3DMark 2000 and go back into MTU, it shows 100%.
Something odd is happening here. You don't have MGATweak running in the
background by any chance do you?
Once Permaclock has done its job at bootup, there is *no way* the card's PLL
clock can be set back to default unless something else runs to change it.
> This might explain why I'm not getting any better 3DMark scores,
I'm sure it does.
> but how can I get the higher clock rates to "stick" rather than backing
> down to 100%.
Once applied, the setting will stay unless something changes it.
Sounds as though the overclock isn't really being applied at all. If you
don't already have it, download MGATweak and use it in passive mode to
ascertain what PLL speed your card is running at immediately after boot, and
then what it's running at immediately after a 3DMark2000 run has completed.
Tezza
| don't already have it, download MGATweak
Anyone have an exact link for this? I've looked everywhere including the
drivers page and can't find any reference to it. A search facility on their
site wouldn't hurt.
Richard Lipscomb
I downloaded MGA Tweak at the above site, but haven't installed it
yet. I'd prefer to use the Matrox Tweak utility if I can get it to
work.
Rich
Frank
agree to the silly license agreement and it's the first file on top.
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mbrock
Agree to the agreement. You will find it there. Or click the link below.
ftp://ftp.matrox.com/pub/mga/utils/tech_sup/mtstu418.zip
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Matrox Tweak utility 4.18, no wonder I couldn't find it.
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