ATI DVD Win2lk picture looks like shit
Werner Purrer
I`m not sure if anybody besides me has the same problem. Regardless
which driver version I tired its always been the same.
The picture looks edgy on fast movements. I惴 not sure what it is but
it愀 not really a non working deinterlacing cause interlacing artifacts
look different more like a missing antialiasing. I really don愒 know
where the problem is.
Does anyone know a solution?
Werner
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Eric Vey
Saying that everything looks like shit would be too extreme though, there is
some slight blurring.
ATI came out with new drivers for my AIW Rage 128 (non-Pro) dated May 15th that
said that iDCT was added, but they crash the hell out my system. Others have
tried the new drivers on ME and report that performance drops so low that moving
the mouse pointer becomes problem.
Not much to do, but wait for new drivers.
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Werner Purrer
wrote:
>I think that it is the fact that iDCT, motion compensation is disabled in Win2k.
>Saying that everything looks like shit would be too extreme though, there is
>some slight blurring.
>
>ATI came out with new drivers for my AIW Rage 128 (non-Pro) dated May 15th that
>said that iDCT was added, but they crash the hell out my system. Others have
>tried the new drivers on ME and report that performance drops so low that moving
>the mouse pointer becomes problem.
>
>Not much to do, but wait for new drivers.
Thanks in fact I forgot to mention that the problem occurs on a Radeon
DDR, the whole problem is that the picture i sharp but seems to be
edgy on the color borders almost like horizontal movement artifacts.
I惴 really not sure where the problem exactly is cause I扉e seen a
Radeon in action on Win98 and the movie quality was stunning. I once
had the same quality with Win2k but I can愒 remember with which
drivers. I think it was some kind of inofficial drivers posted by one
of the ATI guys. But only with these and no others. I tried every beta
and release so far to no result. Guess I惻l switch back to WinDVD
which has the same stunning quality in Win98 but it has a lower
quality in Win2k since it doesn愒 use ICDT and progressive
deinterlacing. Guess back to blurry pictures. Oh well.
Ah the ATI would be a perfect card if it doesn愒 have a number of
small issues which never seem to be fixed
(Win2k DVD, Fog, VSync etc...)
But still my next card will be an ATI again there are to many pluses
compared ti NVidia to switch back. (DVD Win98 quality for instance)
Werner
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Memory Dragon
A soundcard, a SCSI controller, an ATI card, a mpeg hardware,
an UATA100 Raid controller, a satellite card and the system still
runs stable. Who said there arent any wonders in this world?
Ian
Good man - no IDCT is a win2k problem not an ATi one. It happens with
GeFarce cards too.
- Ian
Do unto others before they do unto you
http://www.simnetcomputing.f2s.com
Werner Purrer
>Good man - no IDCT is a win2k problem not an ATi one. It happens with
>GeFarce cards too.
>
Ian
"Werner Purrer" <we...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >Good man - no IDCT is a win2k problem not an ATi one. It happens with
> >GeFarce cards too.
> >
> GeFart cards don´t have IDCT.
Woops, my mistake. 2k doesn't even support Motion compensation, let alone
iDCT.
- Ian
Do unto others before they do unto you
http://www.simnetcomputing.f2s.comstable.
Werner Purrer
>
>
>
>"Werner Purrer" <we...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>> >
>> >Good man - no IDCT is a win2k problem not an ATi one. It happens with
>> >GeFarce cards too.
>> >
>> GeFart cards don´t have IDCT.
>
>Woops, my mistake. 2k doesn't even support Motion compensation, let alone
>iDCT.
>
Wasn´t the directx digital video update supposed to fix that problem.
Eric Vey
;-)
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Werner Purrer
> I heard that, too.
>;-)
>
Actually it is more than a rumour. The problem seems to be different.
Somebody from ATI once posted inofficial drivers for the Radeon on
Rage3d which required the DirectX DV update and those were the only
drivers which gave me the Win98 DVD quality on ATIDVD under Win2k. DVD
was close to perfect with 5-20% CPU utilization and an amazing picture
quality. Alas on an Athlon system those drivers were rather unstable
DVD wise so I switched to newer drivers but all newer drivers broke
the dreaded DVD for me. Either deinterlacing didn´t work or DVD-AA
didn´t work or both. There also was no use to use another DVD player
they worked but they checked the OS and turned off hardware acc by
default no matter if the DV update was installed or not. So far
neither WinDVD nor PowerDVD have been upgraded to support at least MC
under Win2k. I wonder what both companies are doing are they giving up
their product lines cause WinXP has an integrated DVD player? WinDVD
(which I´m a paying customer of btw.) hasn´t been upgraded in ages and
the 2.4 version Inmatrix has tested about four months ago has never
been released to the paying customers.
(Although I could find it once on a warez site so the version
definitely exists and was not a hoax by Inmatrix)
Eric Vey
completely lock my system (SiS, Duron 900) just like the first 3 drivers did for
Via users when accessing the tuner, but the DVD works okay. I only ran one DVD
through with the May drivers, and I did not notice if the MC was working or not.
A little history:
This ng was jammed for months with complaints a year ago before the Radeon came
out with complaints from AIW 128 users complaining of locked Win2k systems.
Every 3rd post said the same thing. The drivers worked fine on Intel chipsets.
Drivers came out in October that would at least put some functionality in the
tuner for some Athlon users (still locked others) for some people, but the DVD
program would use 100%+ CPU power resulting in dropped frames and freezing of
the DVD program. There was one post I remember from a guy with a 900MHz machine
asking if he needed to put a faster CPU, so me with my P3-450 knew I was done
for.
In January came new drivers. Full functionality for Athlon users, but still
100%+ DVD problem.
Then the March drivers came out which work okay with Intel, Via and SiS and
fixed the DVD problem. Looked as though they had it licked. So, in early May, I
got bold and replaced my now dead P3-450 with a Duron 900 and SiS. Then came the
May 15th drivers and lockups return so I am still on March drivers.
I guess if the choice came down to lack of MC or 98, I would stick with Win2k,
but ATI certainly has made this w-a-y too time consuming and aggravating. Radeon
owners that have XP report that they can record video, but no sound with it.
My next TV card will be HDTV. It will probably say Hauppauge. I have had it
right up to here with ATI.
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Werner Purrer
>
>My next TV card will be HDTV. It will probably say Hauppauge. I have had it
>right up to here with ATI.
I don´t know for the HDTV stuff from Hauppauge, but I can highly
recommend stuff from this company. I´ve owned a digital sat card from
them for almost two years now and I still get frequent driver updates.
The hardware is rock solid and with third party software it makes a
great digital TV-digital VCR. But that was one of their high end
products I don´t know how driver support for their low end stuff is. But
my experience with Hauppauge has been very positive.
Werner
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Memory Dragon
Eric Vey
see what all this TV in a PC was all about. The other is one that is not
available in Europe called the 401 which has stereo, a remote control and a
radio.
The drivers are okay, but I think the ATI AIW 128 card puts out a better
picture. The Hauppauge could put out a better picture if the updated their WDM
drivers which are now over a year old and based on DX7(?).
I have the AIW and the 401 in the same machine and then I run ShowShifter. I get
the best of both worlds this way and if I am time shifting, I can start WinTV
and watch something else while I wait.
It is pretty cool!
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