Inkjet Refil Strategies
vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com
been doing it about a decade and sometimes I fail miserably and others it
works just fine. I was hoping folks would tell us more and explain why some
things work the way they did. Maybe someone better versed in "FAQ" can use
this to make a "FAQ" and place it in the appropriate online library. Greeks
say "The Start is the Half of Everything", so here goes..
Just now I had forgotten to close the HP26 holes before filling it with
ink and although I then redid the equalise procedure the way I wasposta, now
it doesn't write a thing. I don't know if I should take the time to totally
empty it or just add a little ink. I'm a fluid mechanics chemical engineer
and I should be better at this, maybe if I better understood why some things
are set up in some ways. Of course, now it is next to impossible to get brand
new HP26 cartridges, so my old method of replacing the cartridge every two
years may not last. Gosh, I wish I hadn't thrown out my Oki 82a - for over a
decade, it used off-the-shelf standard spool typwriter ribbons. I've taken to
using my printer for three months then doing without for three months then
refilling. Most of the time, printing at a library is just fine.
I used to send my bulk printing to CompuServe but they discontinued that.
As for previous experience: (1) I've had it dry out prematurely because
the stopper had worn out and was no longer tight fitting (2) I've found that
sometimes leaving it upside down or blowing air (witht he equalising bellows
pipette) into the bottom breathing hole helps (3) I've found the fountain pen
technique of cleaning with running water (even blowing with my mouth through
the filling hole) sometimes helps revive a cartridge that appears to be
dead. (4) I destroyed one cartidge's top valve by trying to equalise with a
syringe instead of those little plastic bellows pipettes.
The following is probably mostly attributable to a fellow named Steve
Rayner from Victoria BC CA and some "jim xprtec" and was extracted from the
usenet. (See I did my homework before posting.)
If the printhead is clogged, sit it in a shallow container, with a
50/50 mixture of vinegar and water. An overnight soak will usually clear
the jets. Then a rinse under the hot water tap, dry, and wipe with
isopropyl alcohol.
I did post it here a few years ago. Someone repeated the "formula"
here very recently. Basically, Mix Carters Stamp pad ink 50/50 with
distilled water, then double the volume with propylene glycol. This
works as is in my Cannon BJC 4300ex. For Lexmark printers, add glycerine
until it doesn't splatter when printing. If you add the glycerine to the
cartridge, give it a few hours to mix. For HP printers, flush the old ink
out first. Clean the printhead with isopropyl alcohol, then refill.
Note, that the stock Cannon ink has some isopropyl alcohol in it,
probably as a dryer. Mine works fine without it.
Black biological stain can be used to make the base, but costs way
more than stamp pad ink.
Use the home made ink in an expendable cartridge, so there is no loss
if it clogs!
When the quality becomes unsatisfactory or they leak, streak etc.
We recapture the ink to be re-used if a newly loaded cartridge doesn't
work well, by removing ink with a hypodermic needle.
Have done thousands (commercially) and have found that most carts
will accept 3-5 loads.
Our average "failure rate" on first time reloads is about 10%. It
goes up on subsequent reloads if you are not careful.
Some tips we have found that seem to help:
1. Try to reload BEFORE the cart runs out.
2. If cart sets before reloading, put some print head cleaning
fluid in cart and let set for 24 hours. Blot on paper to open plugged
holes on print head, then refill.
3. Try to use the type ink the cartridge had in it before reloading.
In other words use oil-based or water based. Water based will give poor
performance in an oil based ink cart.
4. Put the thin mylar film over ink nozzles in print head after
loading and set cartridge in plastic bag until used. Will capture
spills and also allow the pressure to equalize in carts that have
foam inserts.
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Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
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Fred Kasner
I have two unopened brand new unused HP 26A cartridges. What do you
offer for them? My daughter threw away the FAX machine that needed them,
while is was hospitalized, even though the machine really wasn't broken.
She thought it was.
FK
Dave
<vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com> wrote in message
news:emcbi7$hj0$1...@reader2.panix.com...
> I'm wondering if we can't start a discussion of refilling inkjets. I've
> been doing it about a decade and sometimes I fail miserably and others it
> works just fine. I was hoping folks would tell us more and explain why
> some
> things work the way they did. Maybe someone better versed in "FAQ" can
> use
> this to make a "FAQ" and place it in the appropriate online library.
> Greeks
> say "The Start is the Half of Everything", so here goes..
>
If you want to be frugal, buy a laser printer. Cost per page is cheaper,
and no messing around with refills. If you want color, keep your old inkjet
printer, but only print COLOR documents on it. Print everything else on the
laser. Cheaper, faster, and better print quality. -Dave
Gregg
The cost is just slightly more per page than a laser printer.
The ink storage and heads come as separate cartages which keeps
replacement costs to a minimum.
PC magazine had a review with all the cost data a little over a year ago....
We've owned it for over a year and we're quite pleased with it.
Gregg
mrman1...@gmail.com
Not always. Consumer Reports tested a Dell laser printer earlier this
year that had higher per-page costs than many of the inkjets they
tested.
Some Canon Pixma models (I forget which) have per-page costs that rival
some lasers. Catch is, the most cost-efficient lasers (some Brother
models might fit this category) beat even the best inkjets.
You can always squeeze a few more pages out of your printers by
adjusting the amount of ink/toner used. Inkjets let you adjust that on
the "properties" screen, but it's usually as easy as selecting "draft"
and/or "black ink only". Lasers may let you adjust the "coverage" from
5% to a lower value. I'm afraid you'll have to check your
documentation for that.
Terrence Briggs, who corrected an error on Consumer Reports' reported
values for the HP all-in-one he just bought. Too much, too late.
Peace to you...
measekite
then just use it with
No Mess
No Bother
No Fading
and
No Clogging
measekite
Bluesea
> (See I did my homework before posting.)
No, you didn't do your homework because if you had, you would have known
that discussing procedures for refilling inkjet COMPUTER PRINTERS is
off-topic for alt.COLLECTING.PENS-PENCILS.
measekite
And PC Mag recommends HP ink for it.
>
> Gregg
Bob Headrick
> cartridges, so my old method of replacing the cartridge every two
> years may not last.
HP still manufacturers and sells the #26 cartridges, see
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?product_code=51626A&aoid=32861&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
There were a great many printer models that used this cartridge over the
years, I would be surprised if HP ended production anytime soon. Actually
print cartridges are still available for the original ThinkJet printer
introduced nearly 20 years ago.
- Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
Marvin
> I'm wondering if we can't start a discussion of refilling inkjets. I've
> been doing it about a decade and sometimes I fail miserably and others it
> works just fine. I was hoping folks would tell us more and explain why some
> things work the way they did. Maybe someone better versed in "FAQ" can use
> this to make a "FAQ" and place it in the appropriate online library. Greeks
> say "The Start is the Half of Everything", so here goes..
<snip>
Your rant has nothing to do with chemistry, so I suggest you
take it to digicam newsgroups where it has already been
discussed ad nauseum.
zzbu...@netscape.net
> I'm wondering if we can't start a discussion of refilling inkjets. I've
> been doing it about a decade and sometimes I fail miserably and others it
> works just fine. I was hoping folks would tell us more and explain why some
> things work the way they did. Maybe someone better versed in "FAQ" can use
> this to make a "FAQ" and place it in the appropriate online library. Greeks
> say "The Start is the Half of Everything", so here goes..
>
> Just now I had forgotten to close the HP26 holes before filling it with
> ink and although I then redid the equalise procedure the way I wasposta, now
> it doesn't write a thing. I don't know if I should take the time to totally
> empty it or just add a little ink. I'm a fluid mechanics chemical engineer
> and I should be better at this, maybe if I better understood why some things
> are set up in some ways.
Most of the problem is simple.
Chemical engineers are still the only people
who either make, buy, or sell ink.
Brian Ketterling
> Most of the problem is simple.
In what way?
> Chemical engineers are still the only people
> who either make...
They may have a hand in designing ink, or at least its components, but they
don't make it.
> ...buy, or sell ink.
Chemical engineers do neither of those, except as private individuals.
What are you talking about?
Brian
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zzbu...@netscape.net
Brian Ketterling wrote:
> zzbu...@netscape.net wrote:
> > Most of the problem is simple.
>
> In what way?
In all infinite possible moron Goedelian Quantun Multiverse Ways.
Since the only morons who even sell
Ink Jet Printers are George Steinbrenner, Al Gore,
and imbelices from The ACLU.
Juhapekka Tolvanen
measekite <inkys...@oem.com> writes:
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Stick that HTML to your asshole! It is not tolerated in Usenet News!
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sä sitten tuutkin, olen sulle kohtelias, mutta vain sen verran, että saan
sut sänkyyni tämän yhden kerran. Tilaa jo se taksi." Zen Café
Brian Ketterling
> measekite <inkys...@oem.com> writes:
>
>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>> <html>
>
> Stick that HTML to your asshole! It is not tolerated in Usenet News!
It's getting a little tiresome seeing these messages crossposted into a
fountain pen collectors' newsgroup, too.
Brian
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marika
"Brian Ketterling" <twee...@no-potted-meat-products-peoplepc.com> wrote in
message news:x6_mh.7105$w91....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
mk5000
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Wheezing.... sucking air deeply as it approaches
Fog... wet mist caresses my skin "--rockyroad
marika
"measekite" <inkys...@oem.com> wrote in message
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> My strategy is to go to Costco and get the best price on Canon ink and
> then just use it with
>
>
> No Mess
>
> No Bother
>
> No Fading
>
> and
>
> No Clogging
PEOPLE
ARE
CRAZY.
The $150 purse I saw some months ago, that I could
make, was bad enough. IN fact, I have begun making
it, because its incredibly simple, fun, and very cool
looking.
http://www.margaretnicole.com/MargaretNicole2/homepage/index.htm
Somehow, or other, it has just gotten worse:
?
I think
KNOT.
Simpler yet than the one above . . . so, let's see,
for about $7 yarn, its a return of about 11x
investment . . . 100 TIMES return on the second.
I think the second is ugly, and sadly much simpler in
design . . .
If I could ever get the time to finish things
consistently, I WOULD contemplate eBay. . . .
Just the knitting fluff for the day . .
mk5000
"For with one blow, I will let you know,
I am not the Turkish Knight."--boxing day mummer's play
marika
"Gregg" <nospam1...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:BDlih.8072$Ka1....@news01.roc.ny...
> We bought an HP Business Inkjet 1200.
As I have been wont to say lately, Americans have just too damn much money.
> The cost is just slightly more per page than a laser printer.
> The ink storage and heads come as separate cartages which keeps
> replacement costs to a minimum.
> PC magazine had a review with all the cost data a little over a year
> ago....
> We've owned it for over a year and we're quite pleased with it.
>
I have been trying to find winter accessories. The Fendi looks like someone
eviscerated Grandma's cardigan, but I do like the cable knit bag with the
circular handle!
Hey, just wondering, can someone do me a scarf? even if it;s hot as hell
out now Winter's coming....
mk5000
"Harrison Birtwistle has emerged over the past thirty years as the
outstanding British composer of his generation, inspiring commitment in his
performers and enthusiastic response from his audiences. Since the first
performance of Monody for Corpus Christi in the Royal Festival Hall in 1960,
the South Bank Board has strengthened the connection by inviting Birtwistle
to assemble programmes of works, extending far beyond his own music, in
which he has an interest or has discerned an influence. Borrowing a title
from Giles Farnaby, this two-week celebration explores the world of
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measekite
marika wrote:
"Gregg" <nospam1...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:BDlih.8072$Ka1....@news01.roc.ny...We bought an HP Business Inkjet 1200.As I have been wont to say lately, Americans have just too damn much money.
marika
>Oh Yeah cause they just have more brains except for the refillers
I just wanna know why these kinds of people never send out spam.
I'd read THIS crap!
mk5000
"him want you shut your mouth
him sees her
her is new
her don't talk"--kim
Brian Ketterling
> "Brian Ketterling" wrote
>> It's getting a little tiresome seeing these messages crossposted into a
>> fountain pen collectors' newsgroup, too.
>>
Yes..? But I've got to ask you, does the following make sense?
From: "marika" <marik...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.periphs.printers,alt.comp.periphs.multifunctions,misc.consumers.frugal-
living,sci.mech.fluids,alt.collecting.pens-pencils,sci.chem,alt.usenet.legen
ds.lester-mosley
People interested in frugal living might like input on purse-knitting, but
why fluid mechanists, pen collectors, and fans of someone named Lester
Mosley?
Brian
--
John McWilliams
Nice. F-U set
marika
It makes sense to me because Lester is interested in all these subjects,
including fluid mechanics, printers, purse knitting, frugal living,
collecting pens and pencils, chemistry and most recently, he is interested
in post card collecting
mk5000
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had to ruin it for everyone. (ie. me)"--jux
SoCalMike
> "measekite" <inkys...@oem.com> wrote in message
> news:aXnih.6561$Gw4....@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>> My strategy is to go to Costco and get the best price on Canon ink and
>> then just use it with
i just bought some refill toner for the samsung ML1710 printer i gave my
mom. id never go back to ink..
John McWilliams
Juhapekka Tolvanen
measekite <inkys...@oem.com> writes:
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I reiterate: Stick that HTML to your rectum!1