Will the Soyo 6BB V. 1 Motherboard Support a Celeron II 533A or faster Celeron II CPU with the Appropriate Sloket Adapter?
Lowell Greenberg
definitive guidance?
Can the 6BB accommodate the 1.5 volts requirement of the CPU and the high
multipliers of the
faster Celerons (8X for example)? Is there a BIOS constraint, similar to
what appears to be the
case with the PIII Coopermine chips?
Also, if there is compatibility, what sloket was used or is recommended?
Thanks
z0mbieb0y
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John Howland
not the MoBo. I've not tested a Coppermine Celeron but see no reason for it
not to work.
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Chuck Andersen
I thought you felt it wouldnt work.
> Subject: Re: Sy-6BB-coppermine
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 22:52:50 GMT
> Dear Customer,
> what you are saying is true. we also have a 6BA+III and 6BA+IV that are
> based on the 440BX chipset. with bios upgrades on these boards you can use
> the PIII up to 800MHz (100MHz only) and CeleronII up to 566MHz. but this
> board has a old power and bus switch regulator; there for, it will not
> support it.
> With Regards
> Saeed,
> From: "John Howland" <jhow...@specialtytech.com>
> Subject: Re: Sy-6BB-coppermine
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:02:47 -0700
> 6BB BIOS is too small for adding the Coppermine info to it, also the
voltage
> regulators as noted are not designed for it.
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Before you buy.
John Howland
to the size of the BIOS chip - no room for the extra code needed.
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Chuck Andersen <chucka...@home.com> wrote in message
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PentiumIII coppermines NO
Celeron coppermines YES
In article <YwVN5.554$cX6.2...@news.pacbell.net>,
John Howland
work or if the MoBo needs to be a certain PCB version.... remember - the 6BB
is a very old design.
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<t7...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8u9t6n$65j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
Chuck Andersen
coppermine from a post back in August. My understanding was
that the 6bb-v1.0 voltage regulators were not designed for
coppermine and they would not run on it??
BTW, on the bh6/533a, it has now been running at 896 (8*112)
@ 1.8v for quite some time, no problems.
> Thu Aug 17 16:53:32 2000
> I tried it on a 6bb-v1.0, msi ms-6905 master slocket, and a Celery
> coppermine 533. Tried various settings on the slocket, nothing but
> alarm at boot. Ended up buying a cheap used Abit BH6, fired it up
> at 1.6v, 533 @ 824 (8*103), came right up. My kids now have the 6bb,
> 300a@450. :)
> Chuck
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Chuck Andersen
Is this a 6bb-v1.0, bios rev, MSI sloket and bios settings??
Any other details to get it going?
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John Howland
the BIOS - it can't be done. The 6BB is an old design, one of the first BX's
& the BIOS chip isn't large enough to fit the extra code needed for a
Coppermine PIII. Would take a total re-design of the MoBo & due to the very
small market for it it just isn't worth it...
If you had any sense you'd up date to a MoBo that is a bit more current in
design if you want to update the CPU, among with a current case (that being
an ATX). There comes a time when you need to update more then just one or
two components if you wish to keep up to date.
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GRL <GLitw...@BIGFOOT.COM> wrote in message
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> My experience with the same processor and slotket exactly confirms yours.
I
> ended buying a Tyan S1830 board which thanks to it being from a
manufacturer
> that gives a damn about recent customers, has been supplied with a BIOS
> revision that supports all 100 MHz bus Coppermine cpu's.
>
> SOYO should be ashamed for leaving all it's SY-6BB owners in the lurch. I,
> for one, will never buy a board from this company that has so little
respect
> for its customers.
>
> --
> - GRL
>
> "When someone annoys you, remember that it takes 42 muscles to frown, but
> only 4 muscles
> to extend your arm and smack them on the back of the head."
>
>
> "Chuck Andersen" <chucka...@home.com> wrote in message
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> > > > > > > Lowell Greenberg <x...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > I think the answer is no, but has anyone either tested this
or
> > > > can
> > > > > give
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > definitive guidance?
> > > > > > > > Can the 6BB accommodate the 1.5 volts requirement of the CPU
> and
> > > > the
> > > > > > high
> > > > > > > > multipliers of the
> > > > > > > > faster Celerons (8X for example)? Is there a BIOS
constraint,
> > > > similar
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > what appears to be the
> > > > > > > > case with the PIII Coopermine chips?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, if there is compatibility, what sloket was used or is
> > > > > recommended?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
GRL
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PentiumIII coppermine, what about celeron II? At least one person
says it works, others have tried and failed. You have said in the past
you think it might work. If you ask Soyo, they say it definitely will
not work. What's the story? It's a BX chipset, with the proper BIOS
the board should support it. I'm disappointed as well, I bought the
board believing, that I has an upgrade path.
In article <M1IQ5.172$_j.12...@news.pacbell.net>,
John Howland
You can never expect a MoBo (or any other product) to support components
that are not available at the time of design. Blame it on Intel - they are
the ones that changed things, expect to see even more issues with newer PIII
CPU's & most current MoBo's...
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<t7...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8v1e0t$tco$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
John Howland
here:
There was no intent to insult - just give you the facts of the market. You
have an out of date MoBo, no MoBo can be designed to work with CPU's that
have not been released yet (just wait for the uproar over Intel's next
series of Pentium III CPU's & how many current MoBo's they will NOT work
with - blame Intel & not the MoBo), and there truely comes a time when you
need to upgrade more then one component. Why limit your choice of components
by the case? - doesn't make sense.
As stated the 6BB is not a current design & has not been a part of Soyo's
product line for quite some time... they have built a few over the last year
for special order from dealers - but since it is out of date they do not
offer as part of their regular product line. As a manufacture it makes no
sense to develop a product such as a Slot 1 AT MoBo & has not for quite some
time. Slot 1 is dead, so is AT... a fact you might as well get used to.
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----- Original Message -----
From: GRL <glitw...@home.com>
To: John Howland <jhow...@specialtytech.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Will the Soyo 6BB V. 1 Motherboard Support a Celeron II 533A or
faster Celeron II CPU with the Appropriate Sloket Adapter?
> John,
>
> The Tyan S1830 is an old board, too. I'll bet it's about the same age as
the
> SY-6BB. I know that when I was shopping for my BX board a couple of years
> ago, both boards were available a and neither was new.
>
> No need to get insulting, either. My decision to get an upgraded AT form
> factor board is very logical.BX motherboards are still very high
performance
> and have only recently been exceeded. I have a very high quality tower
case
> that happens to be AT form factor only. I can currently upgrade to any 100
> MHz bus speed Intel cpu that comes in Slot1 or in FC-PGA form factor on
the
> Tyan board. That means at least 850 MHz Pentium III, which is plenty fast
> enough for me. I only upgrade when affordable (<$200) processors hit ~2X
the
> cpu speed I currently have. Any sooner is a waste of my money. My next
> upgrade will probably mean a new box, but the current 800 MHz Pentium III
> will be quite adequate until then. Sounds plenty sensible to me.
>
> Soyo not offering an upgrade path beyond Pentium II, now that I don't find
> sensible or acceptable.
>
> Cheers.
>
> - GRL
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GRL <GLitw...@BIGFOOT.COM> wrote in message
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for quite some time. It is not a current stocking item for Soyo USA & has
not been for about a year. If you are a recent customer I'd talk to your
dealer.. there is a good reason it's no longer a standard production part &
obviously Soyo knew why when it was discontinued. It has been available for
special order for those dealers that wish to continue selling it, but it is
not a recommended current Soyo USA MoBo. Also - note the BIOS is only1Mb,
6BA+ III for an example is 2Mb
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GRL <GLitw...@BIGFOOT.COM> wrote in message
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> ...about recent customers...
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