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Pino

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Nov 24, 2001, 5:04:12 PM11/24/01
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A friend gave me old mobo in object without manual and drivers.I'd like to
use a PS2 mouse but this connector is absent on mobo. Can i use an adapter
on RS232?
Can i use a P200MMX? Chipset drivers for w98 are necessary?
Is its BIOS upgradable?
Thanks.

Nitza666

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Nov 25, 2001, 2:36:16 PM11/25/01
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Its BIOS upgradable you can use an PS2 to RS232 adapter and you can use up
if its the Titanium IB+ a K6-2 300 and of course you can use a P200 MMX or
an P233 MMX.
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Alain-Pierre CHERTIER

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Nov 26, 2001, 4:10:57 AM11/26/01
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About PS/2 mouse connector, it does exist on all T1B/T1B+ mbs.
The connector is right near the DIN AT keyboard connector
on the mb. Then, you could purchase the required PS/2 rear
pc case panel with PS/2 connector and small 4 or 5 contacts
ribbon cable to connect onto the mb. All such parts I know
work well with my own T1B & T1B+ mbs. To have the PS/2 mouse
recognized by the BIOS at boot, you should reserve the IRQ12
interrupt level as "Legacy ISA" and not "PCI/PnP" somewhere
in the BIOS setup.
If you prefer to use an RS232/PS2 adapter, no matter about IRQ12.

About useable cpu on T1B mb, you should consult the QDI website.
T1B+ cpu compatibility list is also available on the QDI site.
T1B can run at 60/66/75 Mhz bus speed.
T1B+ can run at 60/66/75 and even 83 Mhz bus speed.
T1B best cpus supported : Intel P233MMX, AMD-K6-233, Cyrix MX.
T1B+ best cpus supported : AMD K6-2 300Mhz (official) but can
in fact run with a K6-2 400 or 450 Mhz (unofficial setup
of 5 x 83 Mhz => 415 Mhz)
T1B and T1B+ work well with PC100 and PC133 SDRAM modules
although it is not said as supported by QDI...

T1B / T1B+ are very great great mainboards !

If you want to see, you could overclock your P200MMX cpu
very easily : enter the BIOS setup at boot and change
the second menu as "Jumper mode" (software jumper emulation mode"
instead of "SpeedEasy" mode : don't change the cpu voltage
but try to choose the 75 Mhz bus speed and try to choose
an higher multiplier factor... (P200MMX cpus are known
to support overclocking without problems if you have
a good dissipator mounted on the cpu... you should be able
to force it running at 250 or even 262 Mhz ! It should work...)

\:-)

Alain-Pierre Chertier
<alain-pier...@temex.fr>
<ap.ch...@free.fr>

Pino

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Nov 28, 2001, 12:58:57 PM11/28/01
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Alain-Pierre CHERTIER <ap.ch...@free.fr> wrote in message
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> About PS/2 mouse connector, it does exist on all T1B/T1B+ mbs.
> The connector is right near the DIN AT keyboard connector
...

> If you prefer to use an RS232/PS2 adapter, no matter about IRQ12.
>
Thanks for infos.

> About useable cpu on T1B mb, you should consult the QDI website.
> T1B+ cpu compatibility list is also available on the QDI site.
> T1B can run at 60/66/75 Mhz bus speed.
> T1B+ can run at 60/66/75 and even 83 Mhz bus speed.

How using P200MMX at upper bus speed?
About I remember, no cpu at 75 or 83 Mhz bus speed exists, isn't it?

> T1B / T1B+ are very great great mainboards !
>

You have reason.

> If you want to see, you could overclock your P200MMX cpu
> very easily : enter the BIOS setup at boot and change
> the second menu as "Jumper mode" (software jumper emulation mode"
> instead of "SpeedEasy" mode : don't change the cpu voltage
> but try to choose the 75 Mhz bus speed and try to choose
> an higher multiplier factor... (P200MMX cpus are known
> to support overclocking without problems if you have
> a good dissipator mounted on the cpu... you should be able
> to force it running at 250 or even 262 Mhz ! It should work...)
>

And pci hardware? Can i adjust bus ratio for pci slots?
Thanks.

Best regards.

Alain-Pierre CHERTIER

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Nov 29, 2001, 8:15:44 AM11/29/01
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About overclocking the main bus speed (75 or 83 Mhz),
I already explained to you how to do it...
Simply go in the T1B/T1B+ BIOS setup, and change
the "SpeedEasy" function to "Jumper emulation" mode,
then choose 75 Mhz (or even 83 Mhz on T1B+ only)
bus speed. In this mode, you can also choose the multiplier
factor you want... Try it, and see if your cpu can boot.
If it can not boot again, it's not dramatically :
-power off the computer
-maintain the "backspace" key pressed
-power on again => the mb will automatically
reboot in safest mode, I mean at the lowest speed for
the current installed cpu (75 or 100 Mhz in fact,
with 60 or 66 Mhz main bus speed)
-re-enter the BIOS setup to re-force the SpeedEasy
menu to consider a P200MMX

T1B and T1B+ don't have jumpers to select cpu type,
bus speed, multiplier factor, etc... All is done
in the great QDI BIOS setup menus, that is the reason
QDI mbs (as Abit or, more recently, Asus & MSI mbs
are so easy to use mbs ans allow overclockers
to test various configs very easy...)

Standard PCI bus speed is 33 Mhz (=> 66 Mhz / 2)
At 75 Mhz bus speed, the PCI will operate at 37.5 Mhz.
At 83 Mhz bus speed, the PCI will operate at 41.5 Mhz.

You can not force the PCI bus speed, it is always
the main bus speed divided by 2...

All you have to do is to test 75 (83) Mhz bus speed
and see if PCI addon cards accept the PCI higher
(not standard) speed...

You must know all cpu, gpu, chipset manufacturers
always take security limits when specifying their
products : the official speeds can be overclocked
with a few risks if using goog dissipators / ventil
systems on overclocked cpus.

The Intel i430TX chipset on T1B/T1B+ mbs is officially
running at 66 Mhz max speed, but 75 Mhz was not a problem
and very well supported, which was a chance for those
using a "Cyrix200" cpu which was in fact a 150 Mhz cpu (75 x 2) !!!

At 75 Mhz, it is recommended to use good PC66 SDRAM memory
or PC100/PC133 SDRAM memory. For 83 Mhz, PC66 SDRAM could
have problems, so prefer PC100 or PC133 SDRAM memory in that case...

At 83 Mhz, UltraDMA disk transfers are said as unreliable (!), then :
- use UltraDMA from 60 to 75 Mhz bus speed
- don't use UltraDMA at 83 Mhz
This can be configured at hthe BIOs setup and in your operating system.

:-)

Alain-Pierre Chertier
<alain-pier...@temex.fr>
<ap.ch...@free.fr>

Pino wrote:

> Alain-Pierre CHERTIER <ap.ch...@free.fr> wrote in message
> 3C020721...@free.fr...
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>> About PS/2 mouse connector, it does exist on all T1B/T1B+ mbs.
>> The connector is right near the DIN AT keyboard connector
>

> ....

Eric Peterse

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Nov 29, 2001, 10:17:37 AM11/29/01
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Hello,

There is a PS/2 header on the mainboard but you would need a PS/2
cable/backplate.

Yes you can use an adapter.
Yes you can use Pentium 200MMX
No there are no seperate drivers necessary but you can download the latest
version from:
http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/driver.htm?iid=PCG+devside& for
the Intel 430 family.

Yes it is BIOS upgradeble BUT you MUST be absolutely sure whether your
mainboard is a Titanium IB or a Titanium IB+ because they get mixed up a lot
and if you use the wrong BIOS you're in trouble. You should be able to see
IB or IB+ in the sentence with the BIOS version when you boot the system
from the "Off" state.

Kind regards,
Eric

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