What Memory for my P4T533 mainboard?

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Paulus

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Oct 30, 2003, 2:02:33 PM10/30/03
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Hello, I have the P4T533 that was shipped with 256MB Samsung memory , now I
want to buy a extra RIMM of 256MB, but here is my question, they told me
that I have to buy the exact same (very expensive)RIMM that is allready
installed, no other brand is possible they said.(a year ago)
So I can't use kingston, corsair, or whatever for my mem?
Who has experience with this?

the specs are:
256MB Samsung PC1066 (32bit) RIMM4200 232PINS
mdr16r1628afo-cn9df 102

Thanx
Paulus


David H. Lipman

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Oct 30, 2003, 8:32:12 PM10/30/03
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Contact different RAM vendors, give them the specs you posted and ask them if they have RAM
that fits those specs.

Dave


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Matt

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That mainboard is pretty finicky about memory. I would get more of the same
exact memory that you have already.
Matt


Cap'n Jack

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Oct 31, 2003, 12:34:29 PM10/31/03
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Here's a good starting place. http://www.crucial.com

JohnJeninga

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Nov 1, 2003, 8:58:54 AM11/1/03
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Crucial doesn't make/sell Rambus. The ram does not necessarily have to be
from the same manufacturer, however the specifications have to be identical.
The best way to be sure is simply to match what you have. BTW, PC1066
generally refers to 16 bit ram, while your board requires 32 bit. Look for
the RIMM4200, if you buy PC1066 you'll wind up with 16 bit ram.

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Paulus

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Nov 1, 2003, 9:19:06 AM11/1/03
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Hello John, when I use the progamm AIDA32 , and on the specs of the mem it
says:
speed 8ooMhz
BandWith 16bit

Did they fool me at the shop where I bought the motherboard?

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JohnJeninga

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Nov 1, 2003, 9:59:31 AM11/1/03
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Are you sure you have a P4T533? The P4T533-C which is a different board
uses 16 bit Rambus.

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Paulus

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Nov 1, 2003, 10:14:01 AM11/1/03
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YES, I use the P4T533 and i did a little search, at Toms Hardware, it says :
RIMM1600(800Mhz) is 16bit and RIMM4200(1066Mhz) is 32bit.
http://www.tomshardware.com/business/20011024/rdf2001-03.html
But is there a page that explains all the numbers that are on my RIMM4200?

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Nobody_of_Consequence

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Nov 1, 2003, 7:27:22 PM11/1/03
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Just order another Samsung Rimm. Their memory is some of the best
available.

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Barry Watzman

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Nov 2, 2003, 11:56:08 PM11/2/03
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If you really have a P4T533, it uses 232-pin 32-bit RDRAM, RIMM 3200
(PC800) can be used with a 400 MHz FSB CPU, but normally these
motherboards use RIMM 4200 (PC1066) with 533 MHz CPUs.

You do not need to "match" the existing memory exactly. In fact, the
whole point of the 32-bit RDRAM is that you don't install them in pairs,
and that you can have one 256 meg module and one 512 meg module, for
example, giving 768 megs or total memory. But you do need to match the
basic type of memory (232-pin, 32-bit wide RDRAM, RIMM 4200, and some of
the timing specs).

Samsung and Elpida are the only ones actually making RIMM 4200 RDRAM at
this point, although it's sold (and private labeled) by Muskin, OCZ and
a few others. Personally, I'd go with Samsung branded memory, it's the
best memory that there is, in my opinion (certainly RDRAM, but I'd say
that it's probably the best memory of almost any type).

As to AIDA's report, you can ignore that. The chipset is an Intel 850e,
and that same chipset will work with either 16-bit or 32-bit wide RDRAM,
the chipset does not know or care, and neither the chipset nor AIDA have
any way to determine, really, the type of memory (16-bit or 32-bit)
actually connected to the chipset. The only difference between 16-bit
and 32-bit RDRAM is packaging, the 32-bit stuff is just two logical
modules on a single "stick" of memory, but the motherboard then only has
2 sockets and not four.

You should be able to get a 256 meg module (giving you 512 of total
memory) for around $70 to $90. In fact I've seen them go on E-Bay (and
I've bought 7 of them) for as low as $35 or so. However, the large
modules (512 megs) are both rare and [disproportionately] expensive. On
E-Bay, these are often sold in pairs, although with this type of memory,
you do not have to install them in pairs. You do, however, need to
install a 232-pin C-RIMM terminator into the empty socket if there is one.

In terms of Samsung part numbers, you will find parts with "AF0" and
"DF0" and with "CN9" and "CT9", but as far as I've been able to
determine, they will all work (and are all listed as approved in the
downloaded version of the manual).

The P4T533 is an excellent motherboard, in fact I prefer it to anything
else available, although it can't support the 800 MHz FSB CPUs and to
get Hyperthreading you must use the 3.06 GHz CPU. Because it's memory
system is faster than DDR 800, it will essentially hold it's own against
an 800 MHz FSB system with a CPU of the same speed, and I think it's a
bit more stable and reliable. So I'm sticking with the P4T533 at least
until Prescott comes out next year. Note that some of the early P4T533s
had a problem apparently in the CPU Vcore power supply, the best ones
have serial numbers from at least October of 2002 or later (that is, 2A,
2B, 2C or 3-anything), and have a small fan on the chipset heatsink.
The power supply problem, when it is present, sometimes doesn't show up
with slower CPUs but does show up when you upgrade to faster CPUs,
especially 2.8 and 3.06 GHz, which require much more current.

Note also that the P4T533 and the P4T533-C motherboards are TOTALLY
different, and that this post applies only to the P4T533 (without the
"-C" suffix).

Ronald Cole

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Nov 8, 2003, 1:05:13 AM11/8/03
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"Paulus" <nl_sti...@hotmail.com> writes:
> But is there a page that explains all the numbers that are on my RIMM4200?

Yes, there is a "decoder" on Samsung's site.

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Matt

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"Barry Watzman" <Watzma...@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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Some good info here-- Thanks for the post! I'm running a P4T533 (2CZ
serial number) and I am very happy with it. Reading your post will help me
save money upgrading for no reason!


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