Asus P5A-B ACPI Preventing Complete Shutdown in Windows 98 Second Edition
Bob Gary
bucks on a new ATX case and power supply. It's not clear to me why
there is ACPI for an AT motherboard. ACPI without an ATX power supply
seems worthless to me. In any case...
P5A-B, Rev. 1.04, flashed to most current BIOS 1006
Installed Windows 98 Second Edition, Build 2174. During installation,
the OS detects an ACPI BIOS, and installs support for ACPI. When I
attempt to shutdown the computer, the system HANGS on the screen that
says, "Windows is Shutting Down." I NEVER get to the screen that
says, "It's now safe to turn off your computer."
Another symptom of the shutdown problem is that when the system locks
up, the System Power LED light goes out. When I push the reset
button, the system reboots normally. A scandisk is not performed,
which would indicate an incomplete shutdown did not occur? Still, I
don't want to depend on scandisk telling me if an incomplete shutdown
is happening. If I can't get to the screen that says, "It's now safe
to turn off your computer," the system is not shutting down normally.
I've determined that the problem is with ACPI. I've installed this
same Windows 98 on a TX-97, which has been flashed with a non-ACPI
BIOS. APM and Plug and Play BIOS are detected and installed by the
OS. I then move the hard disk to the P5A-B board. After some
readjustments, the system behaves perfectly. As long as I don't allow
the system to autodetect new hardware, and install ACPI, the system
shuts down normally.
What I would like is for Asus to come out with a non-ACPI BIOS for the
P5A-B. Is there a way to disable ACPI in the BIOS? Is there a way to
tell Windows 98 at setup time to NOT install ACPI? Is there an
undocumented switch in setup to NOT install ACPI? Is this an Asus
problem or a Microsoft problem?
bobgaryAThotmailDOTcom
Terry
and it is not in the bios upgrade section. Asus P5A-B
Bob Gary wrote in message <3702801...@enews.newsguy.com>...
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beta server, thats where things like this are addressed. Didja bug it up?
Last I heard thats what was supposed to be done with bugs.. Or is this a
"warez" release?
Just my $0.02
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Bob Gary <lookbelow@nospamDOTcom> wrote in message
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gooseman
problem, which they're working on. Try disabling "Fast Shutdown", this
worked for me.
Arkadiy Korobeyko
> >
> > What I would like is for Asus to come out with a non-ACPI BIOS for the
> > P5A-B. Is there a way to disable ACPI in the BIOS? Is there a way to
> > tell Windows 98 at setup time to NOT install ACPI? Is there an
> > undocumented switch in setup to NOT install ACPI? Is this an Asus
> > problem or a Microsoft problem?
> >
my ATX case even in Win build 2174 (I installed 2150 and received this
problem). Or maybe it's possible thru Registry - because I cannot wake my
system after StandBy with mouse - only by keyboard.
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GhostRider
setup you must use the /p /j switches.I never had any problems with mine
using the switches.Of course I always did a clean install too.I also use
system file checker to keep programs from overwritting system files with
older versions,the number one cause of Windows problems.
Mark Hrivnak
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Gary Sanford
<TheGho...@cyberdude.com> wrote:
>The one that comes with Win98 in system information app.
>
It's sfc.exe. I gave it it's own entry. One of the best things about
Win98.
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Gary Sanford
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Arkadiy Korobeyko
> <7edq7b$25se$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>...
> >If you just run setup it will not setup ACPI.In order to setup ACPI
during
> >setup you must use the /p /j switches.I never had any problems with mine
> >using the switches.Of course I always did a clean install too.I also use
> >system file checker to keep programs from overwritting system files with
> >older versions,the number one cause of Windows problems.
> >
and after such installation Windows refuses to ShutDown Computer, only to
the screen "It's now safe to...."
I made Setup w/o any switches/
When I install Win98 (build 1998) on same computer I receive APM support and
everything goes fine.
Is there any way to disable ACPI support during Setup ?
Arkadiy
Bob Gary
Update: Flashed P5A-B to BIOS 1007, just released on 30 April. Then
installed Windows 98, build 2222, which supposedly is the build that
will be pressed into Windows 98 Second Edition. And guess what? ACPI
is not installed. Yes! So the question is, was it the new BIOS or
the new build of Windows 98 that made Windows install APM vs. ACPI?
More likely the new build of Windows 98. I needed the new BIOS, as
Asus made some much needed changes in the AGP settings. I recommend
that all P5A-B users flash to 1007 BIOS. AGP turbo mode works
correctly, and the system is very stable. No crashes or freezes.
Starts up and shuts down as it should.
So, the problem has been solved...
bobgaryAThotmailDOTcom
GhostRider
install Win98 with the ACPI features,ecspecially since microsoft recomends
doing so?By the way bios 1007 was supposed to solve the harddrive spin down
that was not working correctly(I do not use the spin down so I never had the
problem)
GhostRider
Arkadiy Korobeyko
Bob Gary <lookbelow@nospamDOTcom> wrote in message
> Thank you for understanding the situation Arkadiy.
>
> Update: Flashed P5A-B to BIOS 1007, just released on 30 April. Then
> installed Windows 98, build 2222, which supposedly is the build that
> will be pressed into Windows 98 Second Edition. And guess what? ACPI
> is not installed. Yes! So the question is, was it the new BIOS or
> the new build of Windows 98 that made Windows install APM vs. ACPI?
> More likely the new build of Windows 98. I needed the new BIOS, as
> Asus made some much needed changes in the AGP settings. I recommend
> that all P5A-B users flash to 1007 BIOS. AGP turbo mode works
> correctly, and the system is very stable. No crashes or freezes.
> Starts up and shuts down as it should.
>
> So, the problem has been solved...
That build even does not mention ACPI - only APM/
And everything came back - AutoShutDown and mouse working/
I checked both with BIOS 1006 & 1007.
It seems Microsoft removed auto-installing ACPI when it is detected from
BIOS
during Setup.
Thanks All for replies/
Arkadiy
John E Bolton
Arkadi,
Just for the record, it is my understanding that ACPI BIOS's are only
"auto-detected" when that BIOS has been certified ACPI-compliant by
M$. When this is the case setup will automaticly insert the
'ACPIOption=1' into registry.
No Asus BIOS's have yet been certified, therefore, regardless of
build, W98 will not install ACPI unless either the '/pj' switch is
used with setup, or the registry entry is manualy inserted.
John.
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Arkadiy Korobeyko
John E Bolton >
> Just for the record, it is my understanding that ACPI BIOS's are only
> "auto-detected" when that BIOS has been certified ACPI-compliant by
> M$. When this is the case setup will automaticly insert the
> 'ACPIOption=1' into registry.
>
> No Asus BIOS's have yet been certified, therefore, regardless of
> build, W98 will not install ACPI unless either the '/pj' switch is
> used with setup, or the registry entry is manualy inserted.
>
Tks, Arkadiy