ASUS SABERTOOTH X58: I dont succeed to install new Chipset.
ul...@emmail.it
I have ASUS SABERTOOTH X5 and Window 7 x64.
I don't succeed to install the new Chipset.
In My Computer I have a 2009 driver and on Asus website I see a 2010
driver "Intel_chipset_V9111025 ".
In My Computer I have unistalled "Intell(R) IC8R/ICH9R/DO PCH SATA
RAID Controller" and installed the new Chipset buit when I turn off
tme PC and turn on again, I always see the old driver.
Why do I have this problem?
Thanks
Rob
The SATA RAID Controller driver is not part of the Chipset (INF)
driver.
To update the SATA controller driver, you also need to download and
install the latest driver for the ICH10R SATA RAID controller.
HTH
--
Rob
Rob
PS - the SATA RAID controller driver is known as the Intel Matrix
Storage Manager driver.
--
Rob
ul...@emmail.it
>install the latest driver for the ICH10R SATA RAID controller.
Hi, I have just gone to Asus web site but I don't see "ICH10R SATA
RAID controller".
Asus Web site:
http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1366/SABERTOOTH_X58/#download
I have Windows 7 x64
Thanks again.
Paul
On the download page, look under the "SATA" section. This is probably
an older driver.
Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager Driver V8.9.0.1023
for Windows 32/64bit XP & Windows 32/64bit Vista & 32/64bit Windows 7.(WHQL)
Intel(R) AHCI/RAID Driver Disk for Windows 32/64bit XP & Windows 32/64bit Vista & 32/64bit Windows 7.
File Size 23,61 (MBytes)
The driver comes under two names. The old name is "Matrix Storage".
The new name is RST or Rapid Storage Technology. They're both RAID drivers.
To get the very latest driver, you visit the Intel site.
Intel provides a site which can check for new drivers automatically.
It might be able to show you the correct driver. A site like this
might use ActiveX, so try using Internet Explorer if it doesn't
work with Firefox. (I haven't tested this.)
http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect?redirector_count=1&iid=dc_iduu
You can also manually look for a driver, by using the downloadcenter site.
Here, I typed in "rst" to look for a driver.
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&keyword=%22rst%22
This is an example of what you might find. But using the automated
search, may make finding the right driver, a little easier.
For safety, make a backup image of C:, before going crazy with the drivers.
That way, you can restore from a backup, rather than use a repair option later.
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
you are very kind to explain me very well everything but I have some
trouble.
On this page have I to download this file even if it in english
version? v. 10.0.0.1046 My OS is in italian language.
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?lang=ita&changeLang=true&DwnldId=20110
RST_10.0.0.1046_WHQL_RAID_AHCI_drv_and_GUI.zip
On this page
http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect?redirector_count=1&iid=dc_iduu
I have installed ActiveX
But when I click on "Check your sistem for latest updates", a windows
write me:
Current Version Installed
9.1.1.1025
This version is valid.
Audio Driver for Intel Desktop Board
Product Detected
NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Current Driver Installed
1.2.22.1
This device is unknown or unsupported. Please contact the manufacturer
for possible updates. More information>>
Wireless Networking (WiFi)
Product Detected
Current Driver Installed
This device is unknown or unsupported. Please contact the manufacturer
for possible updates. More information>>
Wired Networking
Product Detected
Current Driver Installed
7.18.322.2010
This device is unknown or unsupported. Please contact the manufacturer
for possible updates. More information>>
But I don't see a Update button.
I inform you in my Computer/Storage Controller I see:
Intel(R) ICH8R/ICH9R/ICH10R/DO/PCH SATA RAID Controller v. 8.9.0.1023
JMicron JMB36X Controller v. 1.17.56.2
Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller v. 8.9.0.1023
If I can update all these driver is ok mut I neeed absolutely to
update the first one.
I have Windows 7 x64
Mother Board: ASUS SABERTOOTH X58
INTEL Core i7 980X 3.33Ghz 12MB
I hope you can tell me the right driver because I am afraid to make an
error.
ul...@emmail.it
Intel(R) ICH8R/ICH9R/ICH10R/DO/PCH SATA RAID Controller v. 8.9.0.1023
have updated it with my little experience.
Paul
OK, I tested the automated driver detection, and it isn't very good.
So that means using the manual update.
The chipset is ICH10R. We're looking for a RAID driver on downloadcenter.intel.com .
If I type in "ICH10R" as the thing to search for, I end up seeing a total of seven
entries.
INF Update Utility 4/21/2011 9.2.0.1030 <--- chipset installer (not needed)
4/21/2011 9.2.0.1030
4/14/2011 9.2.0.1025
12/22/2009 9.1.1.1025
Intel Rapid Storage Technology 12/15/2010 10.1.0.1008 <--- Latest RAID
3/23/2010 9.6.0.1014
Intel Matrix Storage Manager 7/17/2009 8.9.0.1023
The Italian version of 1008 would be this one.
So now the question would be, what is the other one (even more recent date) for ?
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20110&lang=ita&wapkw=(10.0.0.1046)
The RST_10.0.0.1046_WHQL_RAID_AHCI_drv_and_GUI.zip file contains a copy of IATA_CD.exe inside.
And using 7ZIP, the date on IATA_CD.exe is 2010-10-27.
The 10.1.0.1008 version of IATA_CD.exe is 2010-12-15. So it would seem to me, the
1008 one is later ?
The RST_10.0.0.1046_WHQL_RAID_AHCI_drv_and_GUI.zip also includes a "driver" folder.
The F6README.txt file in there, says you copy the files to a floppy
and there is a "Load driver" option in the operating system installation process.
But you don't need that, because your operating system is already installed.
Well, at this point, I'm pretty confused. Does installing IATA_CD.exe automatically
update iaStor.sys, or is the user supposed to come up with a way to do that manually ?
Paul
Rob
I recently installed Windows7 64-bit onto an Asus X58 Sabretooth
and I downloaded the latest RST driver which Paul mentioned.
I did this as the system used a RAID0 dual SSD configuration as
boot drive and this proved unstable with the original driver
from Asus. The new RST driver completely cured the instability
(the system sometimes could not see the RAID0 array when booting,
resulting in the default boot drive order in the BIOS being changed.)
The driver I successfully used was this one (below is copied from
the Intel Rapid Storage Technology (RST) download page):
File name:iata_enu.exe Version:10.1.0.1008 Download
Date:12/15/2010 Status:Latest
Size:6.54 MB Language:English
Operating Systems:Windows 7 Ultimate, 32-bit version*, Windows 7,
32-bit*, Windows 7, 64-bit*, Windows Server 2003 Enterprise x64
Edition*, Windows Server 2003 Standard x64 Edition*, Windows Server
2003*, Windows Server 2008 Enterprise x64*, Windows Server 2008 R2
Enterprise*, Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard*, Windows Server 2008
Standard x64*, Windows Server 2008 Standard*, Windows Server 2008*,
Windows Vista 32*, Windows Vista 64*, Windows XP 64-Bit Edition*,
Windows XP*
Notice there is a 'Select a Language' button at the top - choose
Italiano in your case.
As Paul said, it would be best to make a backup image of your
current system before updating to this driver.
Hope that helps,
--
Rob
Rob
Hi Paul,
We replied at the same time, so our replies overlap.
All I can say about the iastor.sys question is that all I had
to do was download and run iasata_enu.exe and all was well.
Cheers,
--
Rob
ul...@emmail.it
I have just intalled this file:
Nome file: iata_cd.exe Versione: 10.1.0.1008
Now in My Compuer/Controller Storage I see:
Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID
Controller
Why is there "Server Express Chipset "
Is it the right driver for me?
However it seems to work fine.
Thanks a lot for your help!
Paul
The terminology
Intel Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset
is a generic term meaning the driver works on
Intel Desktop Chipset
Intel Workstation Chipset
Intel Server Chipset
The Express part could be a reference to PCI Express, which
is the basis of the current generation of PC buses.
The release notes for the driver, sometimes give a list of
chipsets as well. I expect if they put ICH7/ICH8/ICH9/ICH10
and all the other chipset names in that text string, it would
get too long to print. That is why they're using a shorthand.
The most important aspect of the Intel RAID driver, is
getting a version that works. There were a few RST drivers
in the past, where RAID drives would "drop out" and a
"RAID array rebuild" was required. The latest driver is
supposed to fix that - so keep an eye on the RAID
array status, and see whether it has stopped
making that error, of dropping out RAID drives.
If the status of your RAID array remains "green" for
many days, then it could have been fixed.
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
in My Compuer/Storage Controller I'd like tu update another driver. On
itI see "Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller" 25-12-2009 v. 1.0.0.1034
Can I update it with a newer driver? In ASUS SABERTOOTH X58 in SATA
page I see:
Marvell 91XX Controller Beta Driver V1.2.0.1002 for Windows 32/64bit
Vista & 32/64bit Windows 7.(WHQL)
and
Marvell 9128 Controller Driver V1.0.0.1034 for 32/64bit Windows XP &
Windows Vista & Windows 7.(WHQL)
Are they the right driver for me?
I inform you I have:
1 hardrive for OS
2 hardrives in RAID0
2 hardrives in RAID0
Can I install that driver?
Thanks
Paul
"The standard Marvell driver has issues, as many people have reported
in this forum, just look at some older posts to see. Freezing is a
common problem with that driver, I assume you are using that one.
There is a new Beta driver that Marvell has released that works much
better than the previous one, and is available now on the Download page
for this board. It is an AHCI driver, but does not support RAID as
the older driver does. It works much better and I have only heard
good things about it. I use it on two PCs with Marvell chips and it
works fine."
So if you use the beta driver, it doesn't support RAID, and that may
break whatever RAID configuration you have connected to the Marvell SATA 6G ports.
Another thread here, mentions drives disappearing, after a large file transfer
is attempted.
Marvell does not offer support for storage drivers here, only their network chips.
http://extranet.marvell.com/drivers/search.do
If doesn't seem that the Marvell is a very good chip, as the users here discuss
trying to work with driver issues. Playing with this, looks like it is
more trouble than it is worth. Use the ICH10R ports, for all your RAID
needs.
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=4236.0
At the very least, you should test the drives currently
connected to the Marvell controller, and see whether
the drive "disappears" or not. If it does, then you know
that the Marvell is a poor choice.
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
>needs.
Will I need to change something on the BIOS?
What is the file to install ICH10R ports for my motherboard?
If it doesn't work fine, can I come back easily?
thanks for your infinite patience
Paul
In an earlier posting, you said you have two RAID arrays
connected. One of those arrays must be connected to ICH10R, so
the interface must already be in RAID mode.
Go back, and review the cabling you're using for the drive,
and which connector the drive is using.
Do all of the drives work at the current time ? Is the
system fully configured, or are you still working on it ?
I can't tell, from this thread so far, whether you
are just updating drivers, and all the drives work.
Or, you are in the process of building the system
from scratch, and nothing currently works.
Yes, you can change modes for disks. Some things are
easier to do than others. Windows 7 supports "driver re-arming"
via a registry change, which can make a transition from
one mode to another a bit easier for the boot drive.
The following information, is for situations where the "boot drive"
is changing modes.
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-57789.html
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\pciide
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\msahci
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStorV
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor
You might not have the last registry key (iastor) as this is
installed in the registry with the intel raid drivers, the
default windows 7 raid driver uses the iastorV key."
HTH,
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
>connected. One of those arrays must be connected to ICH10R, so
>the interface must already be in RAID mode.
Yes, it is ok.
>Do all of the drives work at the current time ? Is the
>system fully configured, or are you still working on it ?
>I can't tell, from this thread so far, whether you
>are just updating drivers, and all the drives work.
>Or, you are in the process of building the system
>from scratch, and nothing currently works.
My PC is 3 mounths old and it works enough fine with every driver but
my editing video software gives me some problems.
For that problem I'd like to update "Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller"
25-12-2009 v. 1.0.0.1034 but I don't kow what is the right file..
A friend of mine have told me to download the new driver here:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8P67_DELUXE/#download
It is the same of my ASUS SABERTOOTH X58.
In your opinion will I have some problem with my RAID0 with it?
Paul
The information I put in the previous post, says the "Beta" driver
doesn't support RAID. That is the issue, that not all the drivers
are the same in nature. One driver type supports AHCI, the other
supports RAID and has a RAID console for control and observation.
Marvell does not offer drivers on their web site.
The Asus site has limited driver options for 91xx. The 91xx (for
9128) drivers, are in this set of files.
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/asus/misc/sata/
Marvell9123-9120_V1001042_XpVistaWin7.zip 4048 KB 8/25/2010
Marvell9123_V1001030_XpVistaWin7.zip 2233 KB 12/22/2009
Marvell9123_V1001032_XpVistaWin7-Beta.zip 692 KB 12/24/2009
Marvell9128_V1001034_XpVistaWin7.zip 4043 KB 3/26/2010
Marvell91XX_V1001045.zip 3116 KB 11/ 3/2010
Marvell91XX_V1201002_VistaWin7_WHQL.zip 2826 KB 4/ 7/2011 <---
The one marked with the arrow, has the following file in it.
mvs91xx.inf
%mvs91xxDesc%=mvs91xx_Inst,PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_9128&CC_0106
%mvs91xxDesc%=mvs91xx_Inst,PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_91A8&CC_0101
As far as I know, the "Class Code" or CC value, can distinguish between
a simple disk and a RAID hardware setting. When the BIOS configures the chip,
it may set up the enumeration to indicate one or the other type.
That tells me, that particular driver probably supports more than
one option (AHCI and RAID).
And this text, tells me what it supports.
; *******Localizable Strings*******
Marvell= "Marvell Inc."
Desc_x860= "Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller Driver"
mvs91xxDesc= "Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller"
mvs91xxrDesc= "Marvell 91xx SATA 6G RAID Controller" <---
That tells me, the driver supports RAID. Before using a driver file,
use your 7ZIP program to unzip the installer. Inspect each .INF file,
and look to see if "RAID" is mentioned. Since Asus does not label
them in a useful fashion, you have to do such identification yourself.
They did not make this easy, either Marvell, or Asus.
There are other sources of copies of Marvell files, such as when
Gigabyte motherboard company sells motherboards with 9128 on it.
So you can expand your driver search, to more sites than just Asus.
Just be careful that the INF mentions "RAID" before doing the update.
If it was my computer, I would back up the C: drive, before
using the installer for the RAID. If something bad happens, you
can restore from backup. When drivers don't have good looking
installer packages, I frighten easily :-)
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
2826 KB 4/ 7/2011 and it seems everithing is ok. Now in My
Computer/Storage Controller I see:
"Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller" v. 1.2.0.1002 07/03/2011
If I open My Compuer I see that every Volume are the same "C", "D"
"E".
Is there the right step to verify if that install is ok?
Thanks a lot for your availability.
Paul
> Paul, I have just installed "Marvell91XX_V1201002_VistaWin7_WHQL.zip"
> 2826 KB 4/ 7/2011 and it seems everithing is ok. Now in My
> Computer/Storage Controller I see:
> "Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller" v. 1.2.0.1002 07/03/2011
> If I open My Compuer I see that every Volume are the same "C", "D"
> "E".
> Is there the right step to verify if that install is ok?
> Thanks a lot for your availability.
But is it supporting RAID when it says that ?
Do you have two RAID drives connected to the Marvell controller
right now ?
I can see some comments here about the Marvell chip,
and it has some limitations. The users seem every
bit as confused, as I am :-)
http://communities.intel.com/message/118161
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
>right now ?
Can you tell me how can I check if there are two RAID0 connected to
the Marvell controller right now?
In Storage Controller I have:
Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID
Controller v.10.1.0.1008
JMicron JMB36X Controller v.1.17.56.2
Paul
They refer to a "Marvell RAID Utility" or MRU here. Do you have
something with MRU in its name on your computer ?
I can find a reference to an installer like this. Presumably
this has MRU in it.
http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Driver/motherboard_driver_marvell_mru.exe
(I found the reference on this page.)
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/41437-ga-x58a-ud5-sata3-marvell-crucial-c300-ssd.html
There is a manual for the Marvell RAID Utility here. This manual
will show you what the software looks like. Notice, on page 10,
there is an option to enable a "web service". That would turn your
computer into a web server, for the purpose of being able to
check the Marvell RAID status from another computer, and you don't
need that.
http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d975xbx2/sb/mv_raid_manual.pdf
Using my copy of 7ZIP to go through the "motherboard_driver_marvell_mru.exe"
download, I don't see any driver level files, and it looks like that
package relies on the software you have already installed.
This is just a guess on my part. You should check your motherboard
CD, use the Windows "Explorer" file manager to examine the CD and
see if there is any software on the CD with the name "MRU" in it.
That would be the Asus equivalent of the package I can see
on the gigabyte.us site.
The MRU software should be able to tell you how many disks are
connected to the Marvell controller. I don't really know how
a disk would be listed in Device Manager, if it was connected
to the Marvell. It could appear as an ordinary disk, or it
could be listed as a "SCSI" device.
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
for me is difficult to interpret what you write me. I'm enoug
inexperienced man and I am afraid to make the situation worse.
I can tell you before installing that new driver:
features of a pen with this writing: "Marvell RAID VD 0 SCSI disk
device". When I have installed the newer driver that icon has
disappear. Perhaps do it means I don't have RAID0 anymore?
Now on "Storage Controller" I have clicked on that new driver
"Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller " and that icon has appeared again.
I think now I have RAID0. Do I make a mistake?
ul...@emmail.it
to verify my hardrives. Can you verify if my hardrives have RAID0?
There are these writings:
----- [Disk 0 ]
----------------------------------------------------------------
Property Value
Manufacturer (unit
Model WDC WD5002AALX-00J37A0
Size 500.1 GB
Firmware Version 15.01H15
Serial Number WD-WCAYU8345843
Interface Serial ATA
Standard ATA8-ACS | ----
Transfer Mode (Current / Max) SATA-600 / SATA-600
Features S.M.A.R.T., 48bit LBA, NCQ,
AAM (Disabled)
Temperature 38 C (100 F)
Drive Letter(s) C:
Controller Buffer Size on Drive 32767 KB
Queue Depth 32
Removable No
Cache Enabled (Read / Write) Yes / Yes
SMART Support Yes
Attribute Name Attribute Value Worst Value
Threshold Value Raw Data
Raw Read Error Rate (01) 200 200
051 000000000000
Spin Up Time (03) 142 141
021 000000000F2B
Start/Stop Count (04) 100 100
000 0000000001C7
Reallocated Sector Count (05) 200 200
140 000000000000
Seek Error Rate (07) 200 200
000 000000000000
Power On Hours Count (09) 099 099
000 000000000482
Spin Retry Count (0A) 100 100
000 000000000000
Calibration Retry Count (0B) 100 100
000 000000000000
Power Cycle Count (0C) 100 100
000 0000000001C2
Power-off retract count (C0) 200 200
000 000000000064
Load/unload cycle count (C1) 200 200
000 000000000162
HDA Temperature (C2) 105 103
000 000000000026
Reallocation event count (C4) 200 200
000 000000000000
Current pending sector count (C5) 200 200
000 000000000000
Off-line uncorrectable sector count (C6) 200 200
000 000000000000
Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate (C7) 200 200
000 000000000001
Write Error Rate (C8) 200 200
000 000000000000
----- [Disk 1 ] -----------------------
Property Value
Manufacturer (unit
Model Volume0
Size 1000.2 GB
Firmware Version 1.0.
Drive Letter(s) D:
Removable No
Cache Enabled (Read / Write) Yes / Yes
SMART Support No
----- [Disk 2 ]
---------------------------------------------------------------
Property Value
Manufacturer (unit
Model MARVELL Raid VD 0
Size 1999.3 GB
Firmware Version MV.R00-0
Serial Number 912b7df672560000
Interface Serial ATA
Standard ATA/ATAPI-7 | ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D
version 4a
Transfer Mode (Current / Max) Unknown / Unknown
Features 48bit LBA, NCQ
Drive Letter(s) E:
Controller Buffer Size on Drive 8192 KB
Queue Depth 32
Removable No
SMART Support No
----- [Disk 3 ] --------------------
Property Value
Manufacturer (unit
Model Generic USB Device
Firmware Version 6000
Removable Yes
SMART Support No
Paul
>
> ----- [Disk 1 ] -----------------------
>
> Property Value
> Manufacturer (unit
> Model Volume0
> Size 1000.2 GB
> Firmware Version 1.0.
> Drive Letter(s) D:
> Removable No
> Cache Enabled (Read / Write) Yes / Yes
> SMART Support No
>
>
> ----- [Disk 2 ]
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Property Value
> Manufacturer (unit
a virtual device.
> Size 1999.3 GB <--- Is this equal to the sum total
of two disk drives ? If so, you're
using RAID 0.
> Firmware Version MV.R00-0 <---- This is a virtual firmware version
> Serial Number 912b7df672560000
> Interface Serial ATA
> Standard ATA/ATAPI-7 | ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D
> version 4a
> Transfer Mode (Current / Max) Unknown / Unknown
> Features 48bit LBA, NCQ
> Drive Letter(s) E:
> Controller Buffer Size on Drive 8192 KB
> Queue Depth 32
> Removable No
> SMART Support No
>
>
> ----- [Disk 3 ] --------------------
>
> Property Value
> Manufacturer (unit
> Model Generic USB Device
> Firmware Version 6000
> Removable Yes
> SMART Support No
>
It looks to me, like "Disk 2" is the RAID array.
As near as I can tell. The "VD" refers to a virtual
device. The claimed size of the volume, will help
confirm whether it is RAID 0 or RAID 1. (If it is
a RAID 0 array, the total size of the array equals
the sum of the parts.)
I went back to look at the Sabertooth X58 download page
on the Asus site, and it looks like a missed something.
There are drivers in the "SATA" section. But there is
additional software in the "Utilities" section.
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Sabertooth+X58&p=1&s=29
The Windows RAID control package for Marvell would be
Marvell MRU Utility V4.1.0.1610
37,75 (MBytes) 2010.03.26 update
That package looks similar to the one I mentioned in
my other post, the "motherboard_driver_marvell_mru.exe" file.
Check your motherboard CD and see if there is a MRU utility on it.
And if there is not, go back to the support.asus.com site
and download the 37,75 MBytes file and use it.
Paul
Paul
> Paul,
> for me is difficult to interpret what you write me. I'm enoug
> inexperienced man and I am afraid to make the situation worse.
> I can tell you before installing that new driver:
> Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller v. 1.2.0.1002
> on Toolbar (windows 7 on the bottom dx) there is an icon device with
> features of a pen with this writing: "Marvell RAID VD 0 SCSI disk
> device". When I have installed the newer driver that icon has
> disappear. Perhaps do it means I don't have RAID0 anymore?
> Now on "Storage Controller" I have clicked on that new driver
> "Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller " and that icon has appeared again.
> I think now I have RAID0. Do I make a mistake?
>
The quality of my information isn't good. I don't know
the right answer to making your RAID work!
*******
As far as I can tell, the chip itself supports IDE and AHCI.
You may see those options in the BIOS. The BIOS doesn't
support a RAID option as such, when you look at the BIOS setup
page. What the BIOS options in that case do, is load Plug and Play
information into a chip register, so that Windows will discover
the information later during boot up.
The Asus BIOS, when you press "Control-M" during the startup
of the computer, that should show you the Marvell RAID BIOS
screen. It allows setting up a RAID array. Perhaps you've already
used that, and defined an array of two disks. Now, that is
a separate issue from Plug and Play. The Control-M offers
a way to write "metadata", the desired RAID configuration,
and that is recorded on each disk's platters.
Notice that those two BIOS functions, are not consistent with one
another. One setup screen offers IDE and AHCI, but doesn't
have an option to enable or disable the RAID (control-M) function.
Asus also uses terms like Drive Xpert and SuperSpeed, and I
can't figure out how that fits into the picture. Those would
correspond to RAID 1 mirror and RAID 0 stripe options on a normal
RAID. But pressing Control-M and using the BIOS Marvell panel
to set up the RAID, seems to be all that is really needed.
Now, in Windows, the MRU package provides the same kind
of control, as the BIOS "control-M" function. The MRU
software should allow you to see what RAID mode has been
defined for the disks.
If I go back and look at this driver...
Marvell91XX_V1201002_VistaWin7_WHQL.zip
mvs91xx.inf
%mvs91xxDesc%=mvs91xx_Inst,PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_91A2&CC_0101 <--- 0101=IDE
%mvs91xxDesc%=mvs91xx_Inst,PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_9128&CC_0106 <--- 0106=AHCI
%mvs91xxrDesc%=mvs91xx_Inst,PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_9192&CC_0104 <--- 0104=RAID
%mvs91xxrDesc%=mvs91xx_Inst,PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_9191&CC_0104 RAID
%mvs91xxrDesc%=mvs91xx_Inst,PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_91a1&CC_0104 RAID
%mvs91xxrDesc%=mvs91xx_Inst,PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_91a2&CC_0104 RAID
^
|
The letter "r" is for RAID, but 9192 and 91A2 are not your chip.
Your chip corresponds to the first two entries. So the V1201002
driver appears not to be a RAID driver, using the information in
that INF file.
The last four entries, would cause this to appear in Device Manager.
mvs91xxrDesc= "Marvell 91xx SATA 6G RAID Controller"
Now, if I look at the driver "Marvell9123-9120_V1001042_XpVistaWin7.zip", I see
mv91xx.inf
%mv91xxDesc%=mv91xx_Inst,PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_9128&CC_0106
%mv91xxDesc%=mv91xx_Inst,PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_91A8&CC_0101
This entry has a RAID class code, but there is no indication it is
being treated that way (there is no Device Manager option to indicate
RAID for this one).
%mv91xxDesc%=mv91xx_Inst,PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_9123&CC_0104
Now, I can't see how that one supports RAID any better than the other one.
The driver comments mention a "shared library", but I don't understand
the significance of that.
So I cannot tell visually, which of those is a RAID driver. They both appear
to support AHCI, and software RAID has been run on top of AHCI devices,
so that is a possible way to do it. Intel does it partially that way,
as the Intel driver is an AHCI/RAID driver (both in the same package).
But one difference with Intel, is they mark all three modes at
the BIOS level - IDE, AHCI, RAID, and there is probably Plug and Play
information for each one. The Marvell seems to be missing that part.
And then, it appears to be up to the driver, to support RAID.
An ingredient of that, is the BIOS control-M RAID setup page. It
installs RAID information (metadata) on the two hard drives in the
RAID array. The driver in Windows, can see whether metadata has been
written on the drive. And that is how a software RAID implementation
can detect RAID is to be used.
*******
OK, so the next question would be:
"Does the MRU package install, if the wrong driver is currently present?"
Perhaps that is one way for the software installation to avoid problems,
by checking that the right driver is present. Maybe, if you try to install
MRU, it won't work because of that.
If MRU installs, but cannot find a RAID, then you can go back and
try another driver. Use the Add/Remove and remove the old package,
before installing the next one.
All I can suggest now, is try to install the MRU and see what happens.
Paul
Paul
> ul...@emmail.it wrote:
>> Paul,
>> for me is difficult to interpret what you write me. I'm enoug
>> inexperienced man and I am afraid to make the situation worse.
>> I can tell you before installing that new driver: Marvell 91xx SATA 6G
>> Controller v. 1.2.0.1002 on Toolbar (windows 7 on the bottom dx)
>> there is an icon device with
>> features of a pen with this writing: "Marvell RAID VD 0 SCSI disk
>> device". When I have installed the newer driver that icon has
>> disappear. Perhaps do it means I don't have RAID0 anymore?
>> Now on "Storage Controller" I have clicked on that new driver "Marvell
>> 91xx SATA 6G Controller " and that icon has appeared again.
>> I think now I have RAID0. Do I make a mistake?
>>
>
> The quality of my information isn't good. I don't know
> the right answer to making your RAID work!
>
> *******
Sorry, I meant to cancel that message. I found the MRU utility on
the Asus download page.
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
MRU folder and inside there are:
AsusSetup, ConsoleSetup and MRUSetup files.
But if with the new driver I already have 2 disk in RAID0 I don't
undestand what I have to make precisely. (I see total size of the
array equals the sum of the parts).
Paul
> Yes, in motherboard CD there is a Software folder and inside there is
> MRU folder and inside there are:
> AsusSetup, ConsoleSetup and MRUSetup files.
> But if with the new driver I already have 2 disk in RAID0 I don't
> undestand what I have to make precisely. (I see total size of the
> array equals the sum of the parts).
>
RAID software comes in two parts.
1) Driver for the operating system.
The driver provides the basics, to make the array work.
You seeing the "virtual array" and the associated information,
says that part is working.
2) RAID Utility (MRU)
The utility allows you to make adjustments to the array.
It allows you to command a "rebuild".
It allows you to delete an array, while in Windows.
It displays the "health" status of the array. "Degraded"
on a RAID 1, implies one of the disks is bad and needs to be
replaced. "Failed" on a RAID 0, means the array is bad, and
at least one of the disks may have failed. RAID 0 has no redundancy,
and instead provides faster transfer speed.
The utility also has functions, such as sending email, or allowing
the computer status to be checked remotely. For example, if you leave
your computer running, and a disk in the array fails, the utility has
a service that can send an email, announcing the problem to you
at a remote location. If you are in another city, and have access to
email, you may receive the email from your other computer, telling
you the computer is "sick".
So the MRU, which is a much larger install file, provides a program
you can use, to check your array and see how it is doing.
The array must have some version of (1). The item in (2) is optional,
but without it, you may have trouble understanding what your disks
are doing.
The disk status can also be checked in the BIOS, by pressing control-M.
You may already have been in that BIOS screen, to set up the array.
The health information may also be displayed in there (for when your
OS is broken, and the computer cannot boot any more).
HTH,
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
1)
I have just installed:
Marvell MRU Utility V4.1.0.1610
37,75 (MBytes) 2010.03.26 update
On Desktop now I see a red icon "MarvellTray".
If I click on it, it opens a Firefox or Internet Explorer with these
writings:
There was a problem with the website's security certificate. That link
is:
https://localhost:8443/MRU/JumpPage.php?Target=LoginPage&reqID=848724
and the page is off-line.
2)
When I picked up the new PC from the shop, I saw on Toolbar (on the
bottom) an icone with USB appearance it was "Safely Remove Hardware".
I clicked on it and there are these writings:
"Marvell RAID VD 0 SCSI disk device"
I asked to technical why there is that icon and he told me it was the
RAID0 and it was impossible to take away it.
NOW..... yesterday I have installed the newer driver and that icon on
the Toolbar has disappeared. Perhaps do I have problems with RAID0 or
may be RAID0 there isn't?
In fact on "Storage Controller" ... if I click on that new driver
"Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller " and install again the previous
driver, that icon appears again.
Why do I get it, please?
Paul
If you use an AHCI driver for a single disk, AHCI supports "Hot Plug",
the ability to use Safely Remove to unplug a drive, or later, to plug
the drive back in and have it detected by Windows. If a computer doesn't
have Hot Plug support set up, then the disks have to be plugged in,
before you turn on the computer power and boot the system.
Then the disks would be detected.
The presence of the icon, suggests to me the driver is AHCI.
If you're operating a RAID array, it would be pretty dangerous
to pull out a drive while the system was running. I'm not sure
that Safely Remove, will offer to remove a RAID disk for you.
If you had a RAID mirror, logically you can unplug one of the
drives, as the other drive has an identical copy of the data.
But when you bring the removed drive back later, you'd be required
to do a "rebuild" to synchronize the disks. So I wouldn't really
be that happy, if I had an actual multi-disk RAID volume, and
Windows put the Safely Remove icon there in the tray area.
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6653
I'll tell you right now:
In the top drawer there is a hardrive with OS
Lower there is a second drawer with a second hardrive with another OS
but it is
disconnected
In short, when I surf in Internet I use an OS
When I do editing I use another OS
I remove the top drawer (with the OS) and put it
below (disconnected), then I take second and I put it above (with
another OS) and I do editing video.
I invert the drawers (but lower one is always disconnected.
This is an option that gives the Case Cooler Master HAF-X.
Then I have the internal hardrives that you already know.
Perhaps my PC will need that icon on the Toolbar
which allowed to eject an array?
Paul
> I have a Case Cooler master HAF-X with 2 removable drawers :
> http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6653
>
> I'll tell you right now:
>
> In the top drawer there is a hardrive with OS
>
> Lower there is a second drawer with a second hardrive with another OS
> but it is
> disconnected
>
> In short, when I surf in Internet I use an OS
> When I do editing I use another OS
> I remove the top drawer (with the OS) and put it
> below (disconnected), then I take second and I put it above (with
> another OS) and I do editing video.
> I invert the drawers (but lower one is always disconnected.
> This is an option that gives the Case Cooler Master HAF-X.
> Then I have the internal hardrives that you already know.
> Perhaps my PC will need that icon on the Toolbar
> which allowed to eject an array?
>
>
But that would be a single drive. Your OS then, isn't on a
RAID array, if you move a single drive to change the OS.
With the Intel SATA ports, you can operate a single drive,
while using the other ports for RAID.
You need to draw a picture of the wiring. Trace where the
SATA cables go, and which drive is on the ports.
ICH10R ---------- \
---------- \
---------- \____ 3 dual stacks labeled (7) in
---------- / the motherboard manual
---------- /
---------- /
Marvell 9128 ---- \____ One dual stack labeled (8) in
---- / the motherboard manual
JMB362 ---------- \____ Two ESATA ports on the back of the computer,
---------- /
Identify which drive, and their sizes, and the port the drive
is connected to.
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
(C) OS windows 7 x64 or other windows 7 x64
(D) RAID0 for export
(E) RAID0 for editing
You can see fron my previous post that
"Marvell 91xx SATA 6G" Controller" menages "E" hardrives with RAID0 (2
Tera)
Property Value
Manufacturer (unit
Model MARVELL Raid VD 0
Size 1999.3 GB
Firmware Version MV.R00-0
Serial Number 912b7df672560000
Interface Serial ATA
Standard ATA/ATAPI-7 | ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D
version 4a
Transfer Mode (Current / Max) Unknown / Unknown
Features 48bit LBA, NCQ
Drive Letter(s) E:
Controller Buffer Size on Drive 8192 KB
Queue Depth 32
Removable No
SMART Support No
>> I'll tell you right now:
Paul
> But I nevwer told yoy I have a RAID on hardrives with OS.
>
> (C) OS windows 7 x64 or other windows 7 x64
> (D) RAID0 for export
> (E) RAID0 for editing
>
> You can see fron my previous post that
> "Marvell 91xx SATA 6G" Controller" menages "E" hardrives with RAID0 (2
> Tera)
>
>
> Property Value
> Manufacturer (unit
> Model MARVELL Raid VD 0
> Size 1999.3 GB
> Firmware Version MV.R00-0
> Serial Number 912b7df672560000
> Interface Serial ATA
> Standard ATA/ATAPI-7 | ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D
> version 4a
> Transfer Mode (Current / Max) Unknown / Unknown
> Features 48bit LBA, NCQ
> Drive Letter(s) E:
> Controller Buffer Size on Drive 8192 KB
> Queue Depth 32
> Removable No
> SMART Support No
There are two ways to verify the setup. If you look at PDF page 38 here,
they show an example of the Marvell BIOS screen. This shows whether an
array has been defined. But it doesn't *prove* that Windows is using
the drives as a RAID. You have to verify that in Windows itself. Windows
could potentially use the two drives separately. If you saw "too many
drive letters", that might indicate that something was wrong.
http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d975xbx2/sb/mv_raid_manual.pdf
The MRU utility is also mentioned in that manual. if you look on PDF page 14,
you can see a display of "logical" drives. That means, the RAID arrays.
Your MV.R00-0 for example, should show up as one line in that display.
Another way to confirm you have a RAID zero, is first look at the size
information on each of the two drives. Say you purchased two 1TB drives
and connected them to the two available Marvell 9128 ports. If the
MV.R00-0 array was created, and it was type RAID 0, then you know the
final size should be 2TB. That to me, would be proof enough that the
RAID 0 is working.
That manual is not for your exact setup, and there can be
cosmetic differences in the appearance you see on your
computer screen. I'm showing you that manual, to at least
give you some idea what it looks like. The Marvell BIOS screen
is a text mode display, while the Windows MRU program has
color decorations, but gives the same information.
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
>color decorations, but gives the same information.
Yesterday I have installed MRU software but when I click on its
shortcut icon, it shows a web page and tell me to add an User and
Pass. Why I cannot see that software?
Paul
If you look at PDF page 10 of the manual...
http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d975xbx2/sb/mv_raid_manual.pdf
there are tick boxes on the installer screen.
Web Service
MRU (required)
Command Line
The manual is pretty useless when it comes to details.
It is hard for me to tell from here, that the MRU is available
in your programs menu. I can't find an executable, whereas
I can find plenty of files related to the web based option.
I can't even find what runs if you attempt to run the command line utility.
Look in your program files folders, for executable programs which
the installer has installed.
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
may be you don't understand my bad english.
I have installed again MRU Utility and I have gotten again a red icon
on Desktop. If I click on it, shows a page:
https://localhost:8443/MRU/JumpPage.php?Target=LoginPage&reqID=556854
I have serched that program utility in every place. I don't have any
utility like PDF page 10 of the manual.
I have installed:
Marvell MRU Utility V4.1.0.1610 for Windows 32/64bit XP & Windows
32/64bit Vista & 32/64bit Windows 7
from Asus web site.
Paul
It is attempting to access this option.
Web Service <-----
MRU (required)
Command Line
The installer has installed a "web server". The web server gathers the
local RAID status information.
What this does...
https://localhost:8443/MRU/JumpPage.php?Target=LoginPage&reqID=556854
is it uses your web browser. The address "localhost" means to contact
the web server that is currently running on your computer. (The Marvell
web server software uses Apache web server and php scripts.)
The 8443 is a particular port. Normally, a web server would be at port 80,
but to prevent a collision, they moved the port up high so it would not
cause a conflict.
The "https" is a secure protocol. That is used, so that when you enter a
username/password to access the web page, the username/password are
encrypted, as are the exchanges of information. https is a good protocol,
whether used locally inside the computer, or used over the Internet.
localhost:8443
Your -------------------- Apache Web Server + PHP scripts
Web |
Browser (MRU -- gather information)
|
Marvell Driver
| |
Disk 1 Disk 2
The username/password is to access the apache web server. I don't
know if they are maintaining a separate username/password on the
web server, or are just using your computer username and password.
The manual doesn't make that clear.
If you don't like the web server, there is also supposed to be a
command line interface, so there should be an executable file
with .exe in it, which also carries out the MRU functions.
This is what the user manual from the Intel site says:
"Software Components
During a full installation, all of the following components,
except the CLI [Command Line Interface], are automatically
installed on your computer.
A custom installation requires you to select individual
components. The MRU software CD includes the following items:
Driver. The driver is automatically installed on your system
during MRU installation.
Web service. The Apache server is automatically installed on
your system during MRU installation.
Marvell Command Line Interface (CLI).
The CLI, for only Linux users, is available with
custom installation of the software.
Note: The Linux operating system will be supported in a future
release of the MRU."
So that tells me, that all they provide, is the web based interface.
The only tough part now, is figuring out what username/password
to use.
This manual is a bit more user-oriented. Perhaps this will help ?
http://download.asrock.com/manual/raid/P55%20Deluxe3/MarvellSATA3/English.pdf
On page 8 it says:
"Login Screen
When you first start the MRU, you are prompted for a username and password.
MRU user accounts and their permissions follow the OS user accounts and
their permissions. Only user accounts with administrator privileges have
access to all permissions.
Non-administrator users have view-only permissions."
That to me, suggests that Windows will need a password set, on some
account with administrator level privileges.
In this contrived example, your computer will have a control panel
that adjusts user accounts. If the account has "administrator privileges",
then when you enter the Marvell MRU web page with your browser, you
will be able to make changes to the RAID array (like rebuild a RAID 1
array for example). If the username and password you use, are a
non-administrator account, then the Marvell web page is supposed
to be read-only.
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6810/useraccounts.gif
Some people have no password set on their Windows account, which
will make this interface difficult to use.
You could always set up a separate account, call it RAID_Only_Account
and give it the level of privilege you feel is appropriate. The end result
of fooling around with the user accounts on the computer, is you may need
to enter your password each morning when starting the computer, and that
would be an unfortunate side effect of making changes in the User Accounts
area of the computer. So I cannot say I like this method. It requires
too much modification to the computer.
So, looking again, at the image on page 8 here:
http://download.asrock.com/manual/raid/P55%20Deluxe3/MarvellSATA3/English.pdf
that will be some Windows user account already on your computer. If the
user account is an administrator account, then the web page MRU controls
will allow making changes to the RAID. You don't need to make changes
at the moment, and a non-administrator account should allow just the status
of the RAID array to be displayed.
Paul
ul...@emmail.it
unistall MRU? Will I have worries?
thanks
Paul
As long as the RAID0 array size is correct (double the size of one drive),
I think everything is OK.
You don't need MRU. You can use the BIOS and enter the
control-M screen to get any information you need. If
the array is degraded or failed, the status should show up
in there. So you can do your monitoring from the BIOS.
I was hoping, by using MRU in Windows, you would have a
positive proof it was working correctly. It is too bad
Marvell could not have made a "normal" executable, instead
of the web based solution.
Paul