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Need input! IBM Deskstar 46GB ATA100, 7200rpm on P2B = problems!

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JasonM

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Dec 22, 2000, 2:36:30 PM12/22/00
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Hello all,

I recently bought a DeskStar 46GB ATA100, 7200rpm and wanted to
install it as the primary hard drive on my Celeron 300A. My P2B only
supports DMA33 (or whatever it's called) but I was told this would be
no problem since the faster hard drive would step down to accomodate
the slow speed. I installed Windows ME and the newest drivers for my
sound card and video card but I'm having some performance issues. I
first noticed while playing Unreal Tournament - the sound cuts in and
out, kind of like a cell phone with bad reception. The voices sound
like static, very choppy and completely unclear. This lasts for a
minute or so and generally clears up, then happens again in a few
minutes. During the game the system will "pause" for a split second
every once in a while. I notice these pauses while navigating in
Windows Explorer too, I'll click on a folder and there's sometimes a
pronounced pause before the folder opens. The default "click" noise
that usually accompanies the open folder action is what seems to cause
the hangup. mp3's on Winamp cut out when I do something like open
Windows Explorer, seems like accessing the hard drive is causing major
thrashing. I know Winamp had some problems with stuttering while
doing other activities but they weren't this bad on my old hard drive.
Which brings me to my next observation - I installed this exact
configuration on my old 8GB hard drive (newly formatted, DMA33 I
believe, 5400rpm) and it works fine. Windows ME, newest drivers and
Unreal Tournament (as the test). Unreal runs great, no sound issues
and mp3s play normally, with the occassional pause (as usual).
Opening folders works as normal. Is there some kind of data transfer
problem? Should I get some ATA100 cables since I'm still using my old
ones? I'm just looking for input since I've run out of ideas. I'd
like to try a few things BEFORE I go spend more money on getting this
to work. I realize I may end up buying a controller card (yuck) but
I'd like to get this working without since I will probably upgrade
they system entirely in the new year. I'm running the following
system:
Celeron 300A
P2B v.1.10 BIOS 1012
Creative Soundblaster PCI128
Creative Voodoo Banshee PCI
128MB PC-100 RAM
ASUS CD-ROM, HP8100 CD burner

Any help is appreciated! Thanks.

..>JasonM

Gabriel

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Dec 22, 2000, 3:03:21 PM12/22/00
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Have you tried looking for new drivers for your IDE controller on your
motherboard? You can usually find these by searching the net with your
motherboard chipset (is it VIA or Ali etc?)
These drivers might be called 'bus master' drivers.
You could also try basic things such as defragmenting, though I'm not sure
this will help you with your probs.
Gabriel
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Charles Lee

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Dec 22, 2000, 3:51:12 PM12/22/00
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Apparently some motherboard/Bios combinations with ATA/33 only may have
trouble with ATA/66, and I assume they would have problems with ATA/100 as
well. IBM has a program that can set the drive to operate at ATA/33 only.
This may help. The program is IBMATASW.EXE and is available here:
http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm

Scroll down about half way.

Charles


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Arthur

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Dec 22, 2000, 5:19:10 PM12/22/00
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I had the same problem with mine. My controller only supports ata66. The
utility seemed to fix it though. When I ran the utility it told me I was
"trying" to run it at dma5 (ata100).

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JasonM

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Dec 23, 2000, 6:28:07 AM12/23/00
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Thanks guys... I tried the utility and it seems to help if I knock it
down to 33. The hard drive doesn't seem to like that much, I still
notice the LED for IDE activity flashing briefly every few seconds. I
still have some sound issues but not nearly as bad as it was before.
I have a feeling my motherboard doesn't like the drive, guess it's
just time for some new components. Do I have to boot with the floppy
utility every time I turn my computer on or does it remember the
settings from the last time I ran it?
..>JasonM

broc...@my-deja.com

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Dec 23, 2000, 8:55:00 AM12/23/00
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You might want to consider an ATA/100 controller. You can get a Promise
brand off the net for $30, and it will also support larger size drives.

Louis

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Charles Lee

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Dec 23, 2000, 11:49:39 AM12/23/00
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The utility sets it in the drive itself, so you just set it once only and
then boot as you normally would. You might also want to try messing with
the Vcache setting or setting a fixed value for the virtual memory to see if
it decreases the disk activity.

Charles

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Mix-Master

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Dec 24, 2000, 12:21:37 PM12/24/00
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Your old 8gig drive, is it on the same primary channel as the ibm drive, if
so move it to the secondary channel as master.
Had the same trouble myself with my ibm 75gxp 30 gig and slave drive a
quantum 9.1ka.
Stuttering and pauses within windows.

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JasonM

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Dec 23, 2000, 8:31:48 PM12/23/00
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I had the 8GB unplugged for awhile and it didn't seem to make much
difference... I think. I'll try again though, I've tried so many
things I just can't remember what I've done. I'm pretty sure it
didn't, but maybe it'll work ok along with the IBM utility mentioned
by the others. Thanks!
..>JasonM

Don Sterner

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Dec 24, 2000, 1:13:53 AM12/24/00
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:28:07 GMT, JasonM <tinm...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Thanks guys... I tried the utility and it seems to help if I knock it
>down to 33. The hard drive doesn't seem to like that much, I still
>notice the LED for IDE activity flashing briefly every few seconds.

I don't know the history on this thread, but it's normal for the
activity LED to flash every few seconds if you have an ATAPI
device installed and you've enabled Auto Insert Notification in
Control Panel.

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