BX133 won't post
kent
P3 800 for the 133 mhz bus, 256mg ram and a Matrox Millenium 450 video
card. I sent the board back and the vendor said it worked fine. I
tried a 466 Celeron and a different video card and got the same
results. Does anybody know if the bios must be updated for this
processor and/or video card? I've reseated everything and cleared the
cmos about 100 times each. This is getting on my last nerve.
thanks in advance
kent
kent
Java
220 instead
of 110/115...........there is a switch on the back of the power supply
make sure all your case leads(power on , hd led, speaker) are connected
properly.
there is a little arrow on the black end that connects to the motherboard
that should line up with the positive sign on the diagram in your abit
manual for pn1 and pn2.
the abit bm6 and be6 manuals are known(at this point in time 8-99)to be
incorrect-so take a close look at the actual locations on the motherboard
itself.
re seat everything, ram cpu, cables, cards, etc.
make sure you are grounded properly-the m/b screws should be inside the
washers.
it could be that an extra stud holding the MainBoard up was right under
the power connector.
make sure the mainboard isnt touching the case.
there is a minor design flaw with some boards. The pins that control the
reset, power switch, speaker, etc just happen to be where the screw
hole for larger ATX motherboards go. So.... when I placed the motherboard
in
my case ( inwin ), the pins came into contact with sheet metal from the
case. Sometimes the system would boot, but then it would die. You
might
want to double check that bottom side of the motherboard is not coming
into contact with any metal parts of your case. Especially up at the
leading edge of the motherboard.
After double checking I noticed some of the
solder pads under the mobo, where the leds, reset switch, etc.
connect were in contact with the case. After I put electrical tape on the
board
everything is working ok.
try starting up with only video, cpu, ram, hd, floppy, cd.
move the dimm(s) to a different slot
discharge the cmos jumper.make sure it is not already in the discharge
position
it could be your older power supply:
i had the same problem and it ended up that the power supply was not
powerfull enough to charge the motheroboard, make sure that the -5 v
is at
or above .5 A, i dont know if that is a spec for atx 2.01 but i know
that
the old one that i had was only at .1a at the -5v adn it didnt start
but
when i got a newer ps it worked fine
many people have had this problem when getting this new board
i guess the new winbond chip draws more power
no display startup problem:
I was getting those no display startups and I remembered I set my display
init first to
agp the other day and thats when the no display problems started.
I do have an agp card and have been running it with the pci first setting
for the last
three months-its a duh move, but maybe setting it to agp is what causes
the no-display
problem.
a few agp cards dont work properly with certain motherboards due to the
m/b not giving the agp slot adequate power.
its usually an 440lx chipset and a tnt2 card, ut can be a 440bx too.
adding fan that takes power from the card instead of a sperate power
source didnt help.
there is a list at www.guillemot.com
look under support for the maxi gamer xentor 32, then for online
documentation-it is a word documant about motherboards.
Something I read at www.matroxusers.com is that the ABIT and other boards
have
an issue that makes it difficult to seat the AGP card. When you tighten
down the
bracket bolt, it actually can make some cards pull the opposite edge out
of the
end of the AGP slot. They recommend checking that the card is seated all
the
way. I would remove it, then re-insert and check with a flashlight. If you
see
more than 1-2 mm of the edge traces, it is not seated correctly. If your
card
does pull out when tightened, they recommend using a couple washers under
the
bracket so when the bracket is tightened with the bolt, the card stays
"level"
and does not tend to pull out at the other end.
So check this out... while fighting a coldboot diagnostic I had BIOS
lock up, a powerdown was required several times to wake 'er up again.
All this behaviour seemed familiar. My wife, who once worked for
Computerland, used to service a lot of early machines that required
merely having their chips removed and the pins burnished with an
ordinary =white= eraser (the kind meant for ink, slightly abrasive) she
used to charge the shop minimum of 90 dollars for this and it never
failed to help those machines that acted erratically...
I'd done the same before, but not since the advent of gold-plated edge
connectors. Sheesh, I never thought the goldish-looking pins on the
SDRAM >WEREN'T< gold but I discovered them to be =tin=. Poking at the
memory modules caused an instant lockup, so I pulled them, laying them
on a grounded antistat foam mat (shipping foam alligator-clipped to the
Enlight case) and gently burnished the edge connectors, wiping them with
a piece of plain typing paper when done (eeewww! black stuff on the
paper!)
Lo and behold, after reinstalling, no more lockups, coldboot and standby
all work dandy...
I found the fix for my problem, it was the MPS setting in the BP6's bios.
It was set to 1.4 and this caused my USB mouse to stop working. Setting
it
to 1.1 fixed my problem.
TomG
you have a short when it is mounted. you really should have gotten a 100
fsb cpu for that mobo as it is still a 440BX chipset 100 FSB designed mobo
in spite of the 133 in the mobo name. marketing trickery.
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Ron Reaugh
TomG wrote in message <3a3be...@corp.newsfeeds.com>...
>remove the mobo from the case and try it with just video and power. maybe
>you have a short when it is mounted. you really should have gotten a 100
>fsb cpu for that mobo as it is still a 440BX chipset 100 FSB designed mobo
>in spite of the 133 in the mobo name. marketing trickery.
Nonsense. The BX133 supports EB(133) CPUs just fine so long as one uses
good PC133 RAM and a recent AGP card that supports 89MHz(most do including
Matrox).
Abit says so "Adds support for P3 CPUs up to 1GHz (133MHz FSB)." right here:
http://www.abit.com.tw/english/download/bios%20update/bios-be6r2.htm
Tridders
I had exactly the same problem. Took out the 133MHz SDRAM and replaced it
with 100MHz SDRAM. Away she went. The label says BX133, but it lies.
respect,
Tridders :0)
PS Is this KP from alt.guitar.amps, perchance?
If yes, only too glad to help. If no, er, still only too glad to help!!
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Ron Reaugh
Tridders wrote in message ...
>Hi,
>
>I had exactly the same problem. Took out the 133MHz SDRAM and replaced it
>with 100MHz SDRAM. Away she went. The label says BX133, but it lies.
Nonsense obviously.
Homer
I didn't see that on the Matrox site .
Post a reference from Matrox that states that!
Or is this some more of your nonsense?
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Homer
It's very clear and easy to read .
He took out some bad memory and put in some good memory.
and he own's a board that has a big lie in the Model #.
Are you too stupid to understand ?
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Homer
Try Toms suggestion about running the board outside the case.
Be sure the dip switches are all turned off.
Use a little extra force to push the cards into the slots(sometimes they
don't seat completely).
Try it with the bare minimum cmponents.
.
Do you have another stick of memory you can try?
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Ron Reaugh
Homer wrote in message ...
>Matrox video cards now support 89MHz ?
Matrox G400 and later have always been the best at high AGP overclocks.
>I didn't see that on the Matrox site .
>Post a reference from Matrox that states that!
Huh? Go ask in the Matrox and/or OC newsgroups as I did before I got my
G400 MAX dualhead for my BF6.
>Or is this some more of your nonsense?
Clueless. I also run my P3/600e at FSB=138 which turns your claims about BX
chipsets and FSB=-133 into the pure crap that it always was.
Ron Reaugh
Homer wrote in message ...
BX133 where the "133" tells the truth as most who are competent at computer
configuration know.
>It's very clear and easy to read .
> He took out some bad memory and put in some good memory.
>and he own's a board that has a big lie in the Model #.
>Are you too stupid to understand ?
Homer
Post a reference from Matrox that states that!
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"Ron Reaugh" <Ron-R...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Homer
the bx chipset does not have the correct agp divider .
Therefore calling it a 133 chipset is a LIE !
That's a fact !
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Ron Reaugh
Homer wrote in message ...
>Post a reference from Matrox that states that!
Clueless. Go ask in the Matrox and/or OC newsgroups as I did before I got
my
G400 MAX dualhead for my BF6 which runs at FSB=138 & AGP=92.
Ron Reaugh
Homer wrote in message ...
Not relevant, Abit says their BX chipset mobos work at FSB=133. You have
no clue what Abit does or gets from Intel. Maybe Abit selects its FSB=133
Intel BX chipsets or maybe all Intel BX chipset intrinsically work at
FSB=133. Abit, Tom's Hardware, Anandtech and many others confirm that the
BX chipset works just fine at FSB=133. No one is interested of your ninny
interpretation of an Intel spec which does NOT say that the BX chipset fails
at FSB=133.
>the bx chipset does not have the correct agp divider .
Most current AGP display cards work just fine at AGP=89 on BX chipset mobos
at FSB=133.
>Therefore calling it a 133 chipset is a LIE !
Clueless....the whole industry are liars but some NG troll holds the
truth....if anyone believes that then I gotta a bridge over the east river
for sale cheap.
Homer
Matrox)."
I didn't see that on the Matrox site .
*Post a reference from Matrox that states that!*
Are you saying that you will personally guaranty that the Matrox cards will
always work at 89Mhz ?
Does MATROX guaranty their video card if you run it at 89MHz ???
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Homer
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Ron Reaugh
Homer wrote in message
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>Name 1 card that is guaranteed to work at 89MHz by its manufacture?
It has been stipulated by most everyone in this NG that most current AGP
cards work at 89. You can chase your tail and spin until you trun into
butter and nothing will change that fact.
Ron Reaugh
Homer wrote in message ...
>Matrox)."
>
>I didn't see that on the Matrox site .
>*Post a reference from Matrox that states that!*
Just go ask in the Matrox or OC NGs you ninny. Everyone knows that most
current AGP display cards work at 89.
>Are you saying that you will personally guaranty that the Matrox cards will
>always work at 89Mhz ?
>Does MATROX guaranty their video card if you run it at 89MHz ???
The only thing that I guarantee is that you are clueless.
Homer
And that the Bx chipset is not Certified for a 133Mhz CPU.
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Homer
Certified for a 133Mhz CPU.
Like I have said all along , the bx chipsets overclock very well .
But when someone posts that a 133 cpu doesn't work in thier Bx board , My
solution is to exchange it for the correct CPU .
They should be able to do that for free.(or a small restocking fee)
Your solution is to buy new memory and a new video card . on a good day
that will cost nearly 300$
I think my solution is much more resonable .
I never said the bx won't work at 133 , in fact I know that it will . And
Some video cards will overclock to beyond 89MHz .
Once again I ask who will stand behind these products running way beyond
the certified specs?
We already know how good Abit support is (what a joke).
Why not just reccomend a CPU that will work everytime in a bx setup ?
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Ron Reaugh
Homer wrote in message
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>Nothing will change the fact that you can't answer a direct question .
I don';t answer questions from ninnies. I post facts.
>And that the Bx chipset is not Certified for a 133Mhz CPU.
Not relevant. Abit, Tom's Hardware, Anandtech and many others say that the
BX chipset worls at FSB=133. Shall I post all the relevant URLs one more
time.
Homer
"Something is broken."
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Ron Reaugh
Homer wrote in message ...
>Certified for a 133Mhz CPU.
Clueless ninny. Guarantee something that would backup all your wacko posts
such as guaranteeing us all that BX chipset mobos don't work at FSB=133.
>Like I have said all along , the bx chipsets overclock very well .
> But when someone posts that a 133 cpu doesn't work in thier Bx board , My
>solution is to exchange it for the correct CPU .
Suggesting that the EB CPU is wrong. An EB is NOT wrong. An E is often a
better choice for OCing potential reasons
>They should be able to do that for free.(or a small restocking fee)
>
> Your solution is to buy new memory and a new video card . on a good day
>that will cost nearly 300$
Nonsense. I never told anyone to buy new memory or display card. Just more
of the usual crap you make up.
>I think my solution is much more resonable .
>
> I never said the bx won't work at 133
BULL...you've repeatedly strongly suggested/implied this.
>, in fact I know that it will . And
>Some video cards will overclock to beyond 89MHz .
> Once again I ask who will stand behind these products running way beyond
>the certified specs?
>We already know how good Abit support is (what a joke).
>Why not just reccomend a CPU that will work everytime in a bx setup ?
I recommend what works a vast majority of the time. What would you
recommend to someone who wants ultimate performance on a BF6, BE6-II or
BX133 but doesn't want to screw with OCing a CPU and upping voltages etc and
is willing to pay. I'd have no hisitation at suggesting a P3/1000EB. You'd
recommend a P3/1000E and his performance would suffer significantly compared
to my recommendation.
You just do get it!
Homer
"I'd have no hisitation at suggesting a P3/1000EB."
I know that's what you would recommend , then they would probably have to
buy new memory and a new video card !
That's real helpful (geese)
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Ron Reaugh
Homer wrote in message
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>Why not just recommend a CPU that will work every time in a bx setup ?
>
>"I'd have no hisitation at suggesting a P3/1000EB."
>
>I know that's what you would recommend , then they would probably have to
>buy new memory and a new video card !
Nope, he'd likely already have both PC133 RAM and an AGP display card that
ran at 89 as I said he had BF6, BE6-II or BX133.
Homer
that
> ran at 89 as I said he had BF6, BE6-II or BX133."
You need to read through the posts on the newsgroup again.
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Art Glennon
G400, and it's working the NUTZ!!!
Only thing this thing does that makes me crazy is it won't "Restart".
I have to shut it down and then turn it back on again.
Other than that, it works fine.
98se, IE 5.5, all the latest updates from MS, and others.
But I'm happy.
133 FSB no problem at all.
Art
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kent
thanks for all the help and suggestions....... i'll try some of them and
let you know how it turns out.
thanks again,
kent
Homer
I agree that with the correct video card and memory a 133Mhz CPU will work
just fine.
Considering all the cheap crap ram that is being sold now and oem video
cards that aren't up to par,and
If someone is upgrading a cpu on a bx board and has older memory and video
card . the "e" series(100MHz fsb) would be a much better choice .
for the beginner /avg homebuilder , the "EB" is not the correct CPU to try .
If you know exactly what you are up against , then the "EB" is ok . But
won't overclock well.
There have been many posts that said " I took back the "EB" and got a "E"
and now my system works fine.
When someone posts a problem with their bx board and says that it runs fine
at 100Mhz but when the run it at 133 it crashes , I could say get new video
and memory or I could say get your money back and get the correct CPU.
Since I don't have a unlimited budget , I think the latter is more helpful?
Happy Holidays
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Ron Reaugh
Homer wrote in message ...
>I agree that with the correct video card and memory a 133Mhz CPU will work
>just fine.
COOL. Now I'm gonna capture that quote and post it every time you and that
tommy cretin post on this issue again.
>Considering all the cheap crap ram that is being sold now and oem video
>cards that aren't up to par,and
I guess that desperation is setting in.
>If someone is upgrading a cpu on a bx board and has older memory and video
>card . the "e" series(100MHz fsb) would be a much better choice .
>for the beginner /avg homebuilder , the "EB" is not the correct CPU to try
.
Under those conditions, right. However anyone with a BF6, BE6-II or BX133
with the above RAM and display card already made mistakes in their earlier
acquisitions.
>If you know exactly what you are up against , then the "EB" is ok . But
>won't overclock well.
>There have been many posts that said " I took back the "EB" and got a "E"
>and now my system works fine.
> When someone posts a problem with their bx board and says that it runs
fine
>at 100Mhz but when the run it at 133 it crashes , I could say get new video
>and memory or I could say get your money back and get the correct CPU.
>Since I don't have a unlimited budget , I think the latter is more helpful?
Bull. Just post the facts, ALL THE FACTS. You did it above and it
wasn't so long and painful. Previously you and that tommy wacko simply
posted "WRONG CPU for BX mobos" which of course IS WRONG.
>"Art Glennon" <Art...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> I've got a BX-133 RAID with a PIII-800EB CPU, and 256 PC-133 RAM, and
>Matrox
>> G400, and it's working the NUTZ!!!
>> Only thing this thing does that makes me crazy is it won't "Restart".
>> I have to shut it down and then turn it back on again.
>> Other than that, it works fine.
>> 98se, IE 5.5, all the latest updates from MS, and others.
>> But I'm happy.
>> 133 FSB no problem at all.
>> Art
>>
>>
>> "Homer" <hiq...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:wYW_5.2078$GQ1.1...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> > Hi Kent,
>> > Try Toms suggestion about running the board outside the case.
>> > Be sure the dip switches are all turned off.
>> > Use a little extra force to push the cards into the slots(sometimes
they
>> > don't seat completely).
>> > Try it with the bare minimum cmponents.
>> > .
>> > Do you have another stick of memory you can try?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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"Homer" <hiq...@hotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> yes , Your standard facts like
>
> "Something is broken."
>
>
> --
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Homer
>card . the "e" series(100MHz fsb) would be a much better choice .
>for the beginner /avg homebuilder , the "EB" is not the correct CPU to try
.
Ron Reaugh said
"Under those conditions, right."
Now this proves you are here to argue and not
help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ron Reaugh
Homer wrote in message ...
>>card . the "e" series(100MHz fsb) would be a much better choice .
>>for the beginner /avg homebuilder , the "EB" is not the correct CPU to try
>.
>
>Ron Reaugh said
>
>"Under those conditions, right."
>
>Now this proves you are here to argue and not
>help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are a bald faced liar as anyone who reads the thread can see.
Homer
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> >> >> > ~(_8¬(|) <--------- Homie
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"Homer" <hiq...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Matrox video cards now support 89MHz ?
> I didn't see that on the Matrox site .
> Post a reference from Matrox that states that!
>
> Or is this some more of your nonsense?
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> "Ron Reaugh" <Ron-R...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > TomG wrote in message <3a3be...@corp.newsfeeds.com>...
> > >remove the mobo from the case and try it with just video and power.
> maybe
> > >you have a short when it is mounted. you really should have gotten a
100
> > >fsb cpu for that mobo as it is still a 440BX chipset 100 FSB designed
> mobo
> > >in spite of the 133 in the mobo name. marketing trickery.
> >
> >
> > Nonsense. The BX133 supports EB(133) CPUs just fine so long as one uses
> > good PC133 RAM and a recent AGP card that supports 89MHz(most do
including
> > Matrox).
> > Abit says so "Adds support for P3 CPUs up to 1GHz (133MHz FSB)." right
> here:
> > http://www.abit.com.tw/english/download/bios%20update/bios-be6r2.htm
> >
> >
> > >"kent" <gui...@blueridge.net> wrote in message
> > >news:3A3BBBAA...@blueridge.net...
> > >> I have a BX133 that I am building that won't post. The processor is
a
> > >> P3 800 for the 133 mhz bus, 256mg ram and a Matrox Millenium 450
video
> > >> card. I sent the board back and the vendor said it worked fine. I
> > >> tried a 466 Celeron and a different video card and got the same
> > >> results. Does anybody know if the bios must be updated for this
> > >> processor and/or video card? I've reseated everything and cleared
the
> > >> cmos about 100 times each. This is getting on my last nerve.
> > >>
> > >> thanks in advance
> > >>
> > >> kent
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
TomG
start this all over again just so I can stir old Ronnie up... Homer too!
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"Homer" <hiq...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The bx chipset is not Certified by Intel (the manufacture) to run at 133 ,
> the bx chipset does not have the correct agp divider .
> Therefore calling it a 133 chipset is a LIE !
> That's a fact !
>
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> "Ron Reaugh" <Ron-R...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > Homer wrote in message ...
> > >What part of this post do you need help with ?
> >
> >
> > BX133 where the "133" tells the truth as most who are competent at
> computer
> > configuration know.
> >
> > >It's very clear and easy to read .
> > > He took out some bad memory and put in some good memory.
> > >and he own's a board that has a big lie in the Model #.
> > >Are you too stupid to understand ?
> >
> >
> > >"Ron Reaugh" <Ron-R...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > >news:JxV_5.1186$g37....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > >>
> > >> Tridders wrote in message ...
> > >> >Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> >I had exactly the same problem. Took out the 133MHz SDRAM and
replaced
> > it
> > >> >with 100MHz SDRAM. Away she went. The label says BX133, but it lies.
> > >>
> > >> Nonsense obviously.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Homer
It does add spice to life.
I guess we have to follow " Rain Mans" rules for posting or he will argue ?
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"TomG" <tgeery-...@goibsmail.com> wrote in message
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> you know, every time I see a BX133 post where someone put in a 133 cpu, I
> start this all over again just so I can stir old Ronnie up... Homer too!
>
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> Thomas Geery
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> "Homer" <hiq...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > The bx chipset is not Certified by Intel (the manufacture) to run at 133
,
> > the bx chipset does not have the correct agp divider .
> > Therefore calling it a 133 chipset is a LIE !
> > That's a fact !
> >
> > --
> > ~(_8¬(|) <--------- Homie
TomG
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"Homer" <hiq...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> LMAO.
> It does add spice to life.
> I guess we have to follow " Rain Mans" rules for posting or he will argue
?
>
> --
> ~(_8Ź(|) <--------- Homie
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>
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> "TomG" <tgeery-...@goibsmail.com> wrote in message
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> > you know, every time I see a BX133 post where someone put in a 133 cpu,
I
> > start this all over again just so I can stir old Ronnie up... Homer too!
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Thomas Geery
> > Network+ Certified
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> > "Homer" <hiq...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:kXX_5.2127$GQ1.1...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > The bx chipset is not Certified by Intel (the manufacture) to run at
133
> ,
> > > the bx chipset does not have the correct agp divider .
> > > Therefore calling it a 133 chipset is a LIE !
> > > That's a fact !
> > >
> > > --
> > > ~(_8Ź(|) <--------- Homie
TomG
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"Homer" <hiq...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> LMAO.
> It does add spice to life.
> I guess we have to follow " Rain Mans" rules for posting or he will argue
?
>
> --
> ~(_8Ź(|) <--------- Homie
>
>
>
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> "TomG" <tgeery-...@goibsmail.com> wrote in message
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> > you know, every time I see a BX133 post where someone put in a 133 cpu,
I
> > start this all over again just so I can stir old Ronnie up... Homer too!
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Thomas Geery
> > Network+ Certified
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> > "Homer" <hiq...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:kXX_5.2127$GQ1.1...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > The bx chipset is not Certified by Intel (the manufacture) to run at
133
> ,
> > > the bx chipset does not have the correct agp divider .
> > > Therefore calling it a 133 chipset is a LIE !
> > > That's a fact !
> > >
> > > --
> > > ~(_8Ź(|) <--------- Homie
Dillo
>Hi Art ,
>I agree that with the correct video card and memory a 133Mhz CPU will work
>just fine.
>Considering all the cheap crap ram that is being sold now and oem video
>cards that aren't up to par,and
>If someone is upgrading a cpu on a bx board and has older memory and video
>card . the "e" series(100MHz fsb) would be a much better choice .
>for the beginner /avg homebuilder , the "EB" is not the correct CPU to try .
>If you know exactly what you are up against , then the "EB" is ok . But
>won't overclock well.
>There have been many posts that said " I took back the "EB" and got a "E"
>and now my system works fine.
> When someone posts a problem with their bx board and says that it runs fine
>at 100Mhz but when the run it at 133 it crashes , I could say get new video
>and memory or I could say get your money back and get the correct CPU.
>Since I don't have a unlimited budget , I think the latter is more helpful?
>
>Happy Holidays
Oh shit... I was think of replacing all of this VIA trouble, with a
BX133 board. I was thinking of using a P3-866EB, good PC133 ram
(Micron CAS2), and a GeForce GTS 2 video card, and running FSB at 133.
Why wouldn't this work???
TomG
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Homer
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Homer
But you would probably get better performance from an overclocked 800e or
850 with a fsb of 115~133 and maybe a little less expensive.
And if the bx doesn't like the overclocking you could always fall back to
the CPU's ratted speed .
Then remember what a pile the Highpoint controller is.
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Ron Reaugh
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That will work just fine. HOWEVER possibly a better and less expensive
choice would be to get a 700E or 750E(cCo stepping) and run the clock up
to/towards 133 and blow away the 866 for less dollars.
Dillo
>That combo may work .
>But you would probably get better performance from an overclocked 800e or
>850 with a fsb of 115~133 and maybe a little less expensive.
>And if the bx doesn't like the overclocking you could always fall back to
>the CPU's ratted speed .
>Then remember what a pile the Highpoint controller is.
Despite ABIT and Intel disclaimers, the BX chipset will easily run
at 133Mhz. So your suggestion raises the $1meg question doesn't it.
Here's what I'm thinking:
Solution 1 (no oc):
P3-866EB at FSB 133 = 866
PC133 SDRAM at 133, at spec.
1/4 PCI = 33, at spec
2/3 AGP = 89, over spec but GeForce 2 GTS can do it
Solution 2 (oc): assuming 115 since I don't think I can push the P3E
to 133.
P3-850E at FSB 115 = 977
PC133 SDRAM at 115, 13% below spec
1/4 PCI = 28, below spec
or
1/3 PCI = 38, above spec...risky
2/3 AGP = 77, above spec, but less risk than solution 1
So assuming 850 will overclock to 115. What is better. 866 CPU and
133 RAM, or 977 CPU and 115 RAM??? Hard to say...
Yeah, the Highpoint doesn't exactly rock, but it has been working fine
on my KT7-R with ATA100 Maxtor drives in RAID 0. I have a standby
Promise RAID 100 gathering dust if the onboard gives me grief.
Homer
my 800e runs rock solid at 992 (124Mhz) That's close enough to a gig .( I
have run it at 133 . But it's new and I don't wan't to screw it up)
I think an 850 should also do a gig with no problem at all.
I am using a golden orb avg temps in the 30's
Core is at 1.7
I think it's best to stick with the 100Mhz CPU's then you have room to play.
Go with solution # 2 , you will be happy.
Just for general info, I have 2 identical video cards , one will run at 89
the other goes stupid above 77
(both voodoo 3's) so you never know until you try.
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Dillo
Ron Reaugh
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So the answer is a 750E(700E) cC0 at FSB=133 which will cost less and be
faster!
Homer
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"Homer" <hiq...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It was worth saying twice :-)
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> "TomG" <tgeery-...@goibsmail.com> wrote in message
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> > gosh... there is another one of those double posts again...
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> > "TomG" <tgeery-...@goibsmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > let the little f*** argue. I hope he has a heart attack from it.
> > >
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> > > "Homer" <hiq...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1Ia%5.1519$ug7.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > > LMAO.
> > > > It does add spice to life.
> > > > I guess we have to follow " Rain Mans" rules for posting or he will
> > argue
> > > ?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ~(_8¬(|) <--------- Homie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "TomG" <tgeery-...@goibsmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3a3d3...@corp.newsfeeds.com...
> > > > > you know, every time I see a BX133 post where someone put in a 133
> > cpu,
> > > I
> > > > > start this all over again just so I can stir old Ronnie up...
Homer
> > too!
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas Geery
> > > > > Network+ Certified
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> > > > >
> > > > > "Homer" <hiq...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:kXX_5.2127$GQ1.1...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > > > > The bx chipset is not Certified by Intel (the manufacture) to
run
> at
> > > 133
> > > > ,
> > > > > > the bx chipset does not have the correct agp divider .
> > > > > > Therefore calling it a 133 chipset is a LIE !
> > > > > > That's a fact !
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > ~(_8¬(|) <--------- Homie