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La Parka

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Aug 21, 2002, 1:22:37 AM8/21/02
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What happens if you burn 16x speed CD-Rs at the 32x speed setting on a
32x speed CD-RW drive? Also, is there a quality difference between
CD-Rs recorded at different speeds, say 4x versus 16x?

Graham Mayor

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Aug 21, 2002, 2:38:46 AM8/21/02
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There are no quality differences attributable to the speed per se, but there
will be an optimum recording speed for a particular writer with a particular
type of media. This is of greater consequence with audio where the discs
will be played on a CD player, most of which were never intended for use
with CDR media.

You may be able to write quite adequately at 32x on 16x media. It depends on
how much leeway there is in the spec of the media. Equally you may not.

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Robert Hancock

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Aug 21, 2002, 9:16:18 PM8/21/02
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In addition to what Graham said, some burners will refuse to do it if they
detect that the media can't be burned properly at that speed, they'll just
slow down. Lite-On's newer drives, for example, have a list of known media
types and corresponding maximum write speeds..

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Moshup Trail

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Aug 21, 2002, 9:46:53 PM8/21/02
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I got a lot of discs with skips and drop-outs in the music when I did that
for a while by accident.

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La Parka

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Aug 21, 2002, 10:00:10 PM8/21/02
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Thanks. Is the optimum recording speed generally the same as the
fastest speed that the particular writer can write the particular type
of media? Also, I take it you mean the problems are with older CD
players that weren't meant to read CDR disks -- how does this problem
arise if my Burning program (Nero) claims to be able to verify the
data on the disk after it is burned?

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Graham Mayor

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> Thanks. Is the optimum recording speed generally the same as the
> fastest speed that the particular writer can write the particular type
> of media?

No it is not. It *might* be, but it doesn't follow. The optimum speed is
simply that - the speed that produces the cleanest signal on a given type of
media. You have to experiment in circumstances where your readers are
struggling. Usually there is sufficient leeway for this not to be a major
problem.

>Also, I take it you mean the problems are with older CD
> players that weren't meant to read CDR disks -- how does this problem
> arise if my Burning program (Nero) claims to be able to verify the
> data on the disk after it is burned?

It is nothing to do with the age of a CD player. CD players were never
intended to deal with CDR. It is not part of the spec. though some recent
designs have been modified to improve the reading of copies and to enable
the reading of CDRW. On others, the reading of of CDR is more good fortune
than design.

As for Nero verifying the data - this is because here it is using a Writer
to read the disc and not a CD player. There are different factors involved.
Just because a PC drive can read a disc, it doesn't necessarily mean that a
CD player can.


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Linea Recta

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Aug 22, 2002, 1:27:05 PM8/22/02
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If you burn faster than indicated on a CDRW, nothing will be on the CDRW. It
will seem empty.

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Jim Nugent

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Aug 26, 2002, 8:48:39 PM8/26/02
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I've done it by accident (24x on a 16x CD-R) with data, seemingly without
consequence, but my practice is to set the write speed to 16x when use these
CDR's, of which I have a big spindle that predates my new computer. Packet
writing, i.e., DirectCD definitely screws up if it's set to write too fast.
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