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Jeff

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Oct 1, 2003, 12:05:10 PM10/1/03
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Hi all!
I recently bought a Sony DRU 510A DVD burner so I could start using
DVDR/RW's.
This complements the drives I already have - Yamaha CRW2200E cd burner
and Liton DVD/CD drive.
Running Win98se. Previously I used Nero6 with Incd4 for packet
writing. I understood these should also work with DVDR/RW's.
Problem was that neither Nero or Incd would recognize my new DRU 510A.
So I uninstalled them and installed the s/w that came with the drive -
RecordNow DX and DLA.
Both work with all drives but DLA is a pain in the butt.
After starting the pc, I can't access any of the drives. If I try to
run a program that uses a cd in the drive, I get the "drive not
accessible" message. I can't even eject the cd using the eject button
on the drive.
They only way is to go into My Computer or Windows Explorer and click
on each drive and then it's OK (assumming it has a cd/dvd in it).
Even then it's sometimes iffy and I don't see the label of the cd next
to the drive letter even though I see it's contents.
Sometime it the past I thought I had a problem with Incd and got into
the habit of disabling it at startup and just clicking on a shrtcut to
incd.exe when I needed it. Worked great.
Can't seem to to this with DLA.
Is there any other stand-alone packet writing software out there that
works with DVDRW's?

Jeff

Dan G

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Oct 1, 2003, 1:39:34 PM10/1/03
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Update Nero to version 5.5.10.42, it should work. Though use of packet
writing is not often recommended, especially with DVDRW.

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smh

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Oct 1, 2003, 4:23:24 PM10/1/03
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Try Nero/InCD Clean Tool, and then uninstall/reinstall RecordNow/DLA.

Nero CleanTool
ftp://ftp9.nero.com/attach/Nero-CleanTool.zip

InCD Clean Tool
http://www.nero.com/us/ns4_631938356212815.html

Trev

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"Dan G" <D...@xxxx.com> wrote in message
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: Update Nero to version 5.5.10.42, it should work. Though use of packet

: writing is not often recommended, especially with DVDRW.
:
:
That the opposite. DVD+ RW is far more stable then CD-RW and a damm site
faster.
As for Nero. If it was bundled with the RW drive as OEM then it will
only work with that drive. You need to purchase a full licence to unlock
it


Dan G

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Oct 1, 2003, 6:31:12 PM10/1/03
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Actually, there have been many problems with DVDRW and packet writing
software, and considering the price of DVDRW media, losing a few discs is a
big deal. Saying that DVD is "far more stable" is like saying that a clean
pig is better than a dirty one. It's still a pig.
Also, there are no bundled versions of Nero 6 as far as I know, only Nero
Express.


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Jeff

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Oct 1, 2003, 6:48:22 PM10/1/03
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Dan,
So you recommend I *downgrade* from Nero 6?
I've never had a problem packet writing to CDRW before. Is there
anything special about using DVDRW's?

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smh

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Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

Some in these cdr groups swear by the following:

"cd-rw is less reliable than cd-r, thus cd-rw is unreliable"
"cd-rw is the least reliable media, thus cd-rw is unreliable"

"Packet writing is less reliable than mastering,
thus packet writing is unreliable"

"Packet writing is the least reliable format,
thus packet writing is unreliable"

"DirectCD bugs translate into the faults of packet writing"
"DirectCD bugs translate into unreliability of cd-rw media"

Notes:
------
DirectCD does not conform to the UDF standard.
DirectCD does not set the UDF standard.
DirectCD is not the UDF standard.

Incompatibility with DCD does not translate that other packet writers
have bugs or do not conform to the UDF standard.

Dan G

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The problems are in the software and drivers for the software. I don't
recommend you use packet writing at all. If your version of Nero came with
another drive, it won't work with the Sony unless you buy a retail license.
DLA is well known for problems with DVDRW discs, not being able to erase
them is one common one. All the packet writing wares have one problem or
another.

Tim Kroesen

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smh

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Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
( Reduced to living off the trash? )
( ... my thanks to Tim ... )

Timmy Kroesen ("Net-Trash") wrote:
>
> Looks like someone with to much time on their hands is attempting to
> attack my business computer by posting malicious viri...(HA HA HA)
>
> I'm laughing because of my system invulnerability!
>
> However the FBI isn't so humorous as this is a Felony; they are
> currently monitoring all such posts for analysis of the sender's ID. I
> assure whoever this may be of several facts; you will be found and
> prosecuted both Criminally and Civilly.
>
> The reason I posted this notice here is because I have every reason to
> believe this malicious idiot inhabits this group; as several attacks
> have also contained 'cc'd' addy's of other group members.
>
> So keep em' coming fool; your day of reckoning is at hand.
.

Yet more promises, Timmy?

(1) BTW, what's the status of this case, Timmy?

====================
From: Tim Kroesen
Subject: Re: Deirdre' Straughan (cRoxio) is a Liar (daddy)(ii)
Date: 7/11/03

Impersonations, Transmittal of Obscene material, Transmittal of a
destructive virus, etc... As my business is operated from my home
business computer, any attack on it is a specified Felony.

Today's email contained Five items filtered as virus infected;
all as usual have been forwarded to my local FBI office and agent
handling the case. I wonder who's going to be keeping house for
King Kong to pay my tab...?
====================

(2) And whatever became of the SIX complaints you filed with the FBI,
Timmy?

======================
From: Timmy Kroesen
Subject: Re: Timmy Kroesen ("net-Kook") Demands!
Date: 6/13/02

Make that Six...
======================

(3) And whatever became of these promises of yours, Timmy?

===========================================
Timmy Kroesen (net-Trash) wrote:
> "smh" ...
> > Timmy Kroesen (net-Kook) wrote:
> > >
> > > We're working on it Asshole...Play your game.
> >
> > Why then pine about "demand" for the id?
> > Are there problems, Timmy?
>
> No problems Fuckwit; I promise you'll get your due.

Promises, promises, Timmy. Let see, today is (12/12/01). Do I have
to wait seven (7) more months for your yet another empty promise?

----------------------------------
From: Timmy Kroesen (Net-Trash)
Date: (5/18/01)

... this perp WILL be outed ...
----------------------------------
===========================================

Let see, today is (9/23/03). Do I have to wait TWO more YEARS, Timmy?

smh

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( Reduced to living off the trash? )
( ... my thanks to Tim ... )

Timmy Kroesen ("Net-Trash") wrote:
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> smh wrote:
> >
> > And whatever became of the SIX (6) complaints you were supposed to have


> > filed with the FBI, Timmy?
> >
> > ======================
> > From: Timmy Kroesen
> > Subject: Re: Timmy Kroesen ("net-Kook") Demands!
> > Date: 6/13/02
> >
> > Make that Six...
> > ======================
>

> Let me explain something to you little freak; you have been ID'd by
> Federal officials and are being watched.

==============================================
Timmy Kroesen ("net-Kook") wrote (6/16/02):
>
> It's quite obvious you've been warned then...

It may be 'quite obvious' to you with your exquisite sense of time,
but it's not so quite obvious to me, Timmy boy. You see, I haven't
done the interview -- yet. In my calendar, future is future, not
past.
[See: Tim Kroesen's Exquisite Sense of Time ]

Didn't the FBI tell you I had been warned, Timmy boy? Only tell you
an interview WILL be coming, Timmy boy?

> Have a Nice Day;
> the Eyes of Justice are upon you!

I told you I thought I saw a black helicopter, Timmy boy.

==============================================

smh

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Mike Richter, were you born with
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Timmy Kroesen ("Net-Trash") wrote:
>

Got no time to respond to this, Timmy?
Feeling no pain, Timmy?

=======================
From: Mike DHaire
Subject: Re: Easy CD Creator's Timestamp Problem on Windows 2000/XP
Date: 3/29/03

Timmy Kroesen ("Net-Trash") wrote:
>

> I'd assume other issues take precedence;
> not much of a bug IMO anyway...

How 'bout I nab your penis and smash it with a hammer, motherfucker!
LOL !!! LOL !!! LOL !!!
=======================

ROTFL !!! ROTFL !!! ROTFL !!!

smh

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Mike Richter, were you born with
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( ... my thanks to Tim ... )

Timmy Kroesen ("Net-Trash") wrote:
>

Have you proved ANY of the following is a libel, Timmy?

Come on, Timmy. Stop pussyfooting and buffooning around. After all,
Mikey is pitifully, desperately counting on you.

(Don't forget to ask Mikey for the examples of supposed misquotes.)

========================================================
Who Is Mike Richter and
Why Are They Saying All These Horrible Things About Him?
========================================================

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(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (wife beating)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (critical bugs)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (major bug)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (nda limit)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (nda)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (no secret)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (no secret)(ii)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (dae)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (enhanced-cd)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (no enhanced cd)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (enhanced-cd/cdr-faq)

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Mike Richter is a LIAR (cd-extra/sao/tao)(i)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (cd-extra/single-session)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/winme)(i)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/winme)(ii)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/win2k)(i)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/win2k)(ii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/win2k)(iii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/win2k)(iv)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/plextor)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(i)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(ii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(iii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(iv)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(v)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(vi)
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Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(9a)

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Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (ii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (iii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (iv)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (v)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (vi)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (vii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (viii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (ix)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (x)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (xi)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (xii)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (supplied cd)

What's wrong with Mike Richter (Tim Kroesen) (i)
What's wrong with Mike Richter (Tim Kroesen) (ii)

Mike Richter Wow! Wow! Wow!

Mike Richter's Exquisite Sense of Time (i)
Mike Richter's Exquisite Sense of Time (ii)
Mike Richter's Exquisite Sense of Time (iii)

Mike Richter & "Looooooooonng" Time for Nothing

Dr Ratt

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Oct 4, 2003, 8:03:12 AM10/4/03
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> "Packet writing is less reliable than mastering,
> thus packet writing is unreliable"
>
> "Packet writing is the least reliable format,
> thus packet writing is unreliable"


gotta admit to thinking this myself, til i played around with nero's version
recently - so far no errors at all
my experiences with directcd tainted my view completely as every single disc
i made with it was imperfect


smh

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(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

"DirectCD bugs translate into the faults of packet writing"
"DirectCD bugs translate into unreliability of cd-rw media"

A lot of the DirectCD problems that are slimily blamed on the cd-rw
media and the packet writing format are caused by these DirectCD bugs:

-----------------------
DirectCD 3.05
Fixes

Some older, low-speed recorders cannot correctly write high-speed
rated CD-RW media, but DirectCD would formerly allow you to try.

DirectCD now checks the media and
will reject as appropriate. <=== FIXED ???

DirectCD 5.3.4
Fixed:

Burn to Ultra High Speed media on non-Ultra High Speed Drives,
no longer allowed <=== FIX a FIX ???
-----------------------

smh

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This is caused by the above bugs:

====================================================
From: "Pierre-Eric COLIN"
Subject: DirectCD is a VERY ROBUST piece of software
Date: 11/12/01

I've read many posts saying horrible things about DirectCD.

THIS IS UNFAIR. It is definitely a very robust piece of software.
And this is not free chating, I've got facts:

I'm using Windows 2000 SP2 and many complain about formatting CDRWs that
does not work.

Well, it works, better it ROCKS. I started a formatting yesterday before
going to sleep. (Thats is because formatting is a fast process taking 1
to 3 hours).

Guess what I found this morning? DirectCD was still up an running,
proudly stating "format in progress, verifying disk..." and the time
elapsed was a nice 10:36:07. That's a very significant amount of time
without crashing, that deserves a warm greeting in the Book of Records
of Toe-Written Software (It must have been written with toes, because
most-if-not-all development systems have macro fixing the lamest bugs,
infinite loops being one of them).

I am sincerely very impressed, because usually, DirectCD behaves in a
very different fashion, it just exits formatting, without logging its
errors, so if you hadn't spent 2 ages 1/2 with your eyes stuck on the
dialogbox, you have no clue of the reason why the whole shit failed.
Indeed this is unfair again, because the error message lasts at least 9
seconds.

So, time for the big bucks question... Tataaaaaaaaaaaa! Do I deserve a
such piece of software ? The answer is NO, period. So I will go
through the undocumented -12 hours- uninstall process, and

trash this ubershit out of my PC.

Fuck ECDC, Fuck DirectCD,
Fuck the developpers,
Fuck the technical support,
Fuck Roxio,

they fucked me!

Don't buy this crap, and if you really want to see it at "work", steal
it.
====================================================

Tim Kroesen

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Mike Richter, were you born with
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Timmy Kroesen ("Net-Trash") wrote:
>

Timmy, instead of squealing like a stuck pig, why don't you prove at
least one of the following is a libel?

After all, Mikey is pitifully, desperately counting on you.

( Why are you pipsqeaks unable to prove at least one of the following is
a libel -- when Mikey has examples of misquotes ???!!! )

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Mike Richter is a LIAR (wife beating)

No Where Man

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Gee...in looking thru your most recent posts, it's easy to come up with one
point that YOU'RE wrong on. You accuse Mike Richter of wife beating ( "Wife
Beating Stopped, Mike Richter?").

Yet, in one post, Mike advised he's never been married.

Guess that constitutes libel as you're making an accusation that can be
proved false. Wonder what it would take to force Randori to turn over your
e-mail address and personal information to all those that you've made
malicous statements against.


Tim Kroesen

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Just pour the complaints in; the more diverse and numerous, the more
effective and quickly action will be taken...

ab...@randori.com ; di...@randori.com

Tim K

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> Gee...in looking thru your most recent posts, it's easy to come up
with one
> point that YOU'RE wrong on. You accuse Mike Richter of wife beating

smh

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(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

======================
From: Mike Richter

> Does Take Two now make boot disk properly?

Does your question not read like the classic:

Have you stopped beating your wife?
======================

Mikey said the question, "Does Take Two now make boot disk propery?",
reads *LIKE* the question, "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

Need to go on, Dummy?

(BTW, there's another dummy named Harry Tasker. Any relation, Dummy?)

=====================================


Wife Beating Stopped, Mike Richter?

=====================================

Could you take a time off from your pontificating and explain the
"discrepancy" between your posts of (10/31/99) and (3/23/00)?

======================
From: Mike Richter (Acraptec Shill)
Subject: Re: Take Two Boot Disk
Date: (10/31/99)

> I cannot create an Emergency Boot Floppy disk for Take Two...
> Windows 98 2nd Edition

Take Two has problems with its boot disc in NT4;

I'm not surprised if it is also true in Win98 SE ... <=== Not Always

Then beat up on them for letting it out in that condition. <=== Beat Up

======================
From: Mike Richter (Acraptec Shill)
Subject: Re: Adaptec Take 2 Restore problem
Date: (3/23/00)

smh wrote:
> Does Take Two now make boot disk properly?

Take Two always made a valid boot disc for Win9x ... <=== Always

Does your question not read like the classic:

Have you stopped beating your wife? <=== Wife Beating
Like that one, yours cannot be answered simply.
======================

----------------------
Mikey, you are a Scum!
----------------------

smh

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=====================================


Wife Beating Stopped, Mike Richter?

=====================================

No Where Man (the "Dummy", like Harry Tasker) wrote:
>
> Gee...in looking thru your most recent posts, it's easy to come up with one
> point that YOU'RE wrong on. You accuse Mike Richter of wife beating ( "Wife
> Beating Stopped, Mike Richter?").
>
> Yet, in one post, Mike advised he's never been married.
>
> Guess that constitutes libel as you're making an accusation that can be
> proved false.

What a friggin' dummy! Is this too complicated for you?

======================
From: Mike Richter

> Does Take Two now make boot disk properly?

Does your question not read like the classic:

Have you stopped beating your wife?
======================

Mikey said the question, "Does Take Two now make boot disk propery?",

read *LIKE* the question, "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

smh

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Timmy Kroesen ("Net-Trash") wrote:
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> "No Where Man" (the "Dummy", like Harry Tasker) wrote...


> >
> > Gee...in looking thru your most recent posts, it's easy to come up
> > with one point that YOU'RE wrong on. You accuse Mike Richter of
> > wife beating "Wife Beating Stopped, Mike Richter?").
> >
> > Yet, in one post, Mike advised he's never been married.
> >
> > Guess that constitutes libel as you're making an accusation that can
> > be proved false.
>

> Just pour the complaints in; the more diverse and numerous, the more
> effective and quickly action will be taken...

Timmy, why aren't you making use of the brilliant proof of libel by "No
Where Man" (the "Dummy", like Harry Tasker)?

"No Where Man" (the "Dummy", like Harry Tasker) guessed that the
following constituted libel:

=====================================


Wife Beating Stopped, Mike Richter?

smh

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==================================
From: chrisv
Date: 9/5/03

Mike Richter (Lying Scum) wrote:
>
> As for beatings, there is one creature which tempts me,
> but one should not attack the incompetent.

I do hope you're not talking about your wiener...
==================================

smh

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Oct 7, 2003, 12:16:38 AM10/7/03
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Mike Richter, were you born with
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A certain scam artist swears by the following:

> "DirectCD bugs translate into the faults of packet writing"
> "DirectCD bugs translate into unreliability of cd-rw media"
>
> A lot of the DirectCD problems that are slimily blamed on the cd-rw
> media and the packet writing format are caused by these DirectCD bugs:
>
> -----------------------
> DirectCD 3.05
> Fixes
>
> Some older, low-speed recorders cannot correctly write high-speed
> rated CD-RW media, but DirectCD would formerly allow you to try.
>
> DirectCD now checks the media and
> will reject as appropriate. <=== FIXED ???
>
> DirectCD 5.3.4
> Fixed:
>
> Burn to Ultra High Speed media on non-Ultra High Speed Drives,
> no longer allowed <=== FIX a FIX ???
> -----------------------

Mikey's slimy "excuse" for the above DirectCD bugs:

=====================
From: Mike Richter (King Troll)
Subject: Re: roxio direct CD
Date: 6/30/02

> I find that in using DIRECT CD, after I format the disk, (which takes
> forever) it shows it's completely full and instructions are to delete
> something to make room for what I'm tying to drag & drop.

At a guess - answering is much easier if you provide some information -
you are formatting an erasable for fixed-length packets. In that case,
you have a medium which is poorly matched to your drive.

When DCD formats, it reads back each sector to be sure it's well
prepared. With a mismatch, many sectors fail which means

formatting takes a looooooooonng time

and the result is too little usable space to be of value.

Try a disc better matched to your drive and be sure it matches the drive
for HS or non-HS.
=====================

But then:

======================
From: Mike Richter (Lying Scum)
Subject: Re: DirectCD 5 .. More funnies
Date: 7/29/01

Incidentally, with a little experience,
you're likely to find that

formatting an erasable is not a problem.

Fixed-length packets make for the least reliable format for
CD recording and few people find a need for many such discs.

smh

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Oct 7, 2003, 3:33:29 AM10/7/03
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A certain scam artist swears by the following:

> "DirectCD bugs translate into the faults of packet writing"


> "DirectCD bugs translate into unreliability of cd-rw media"
>
> A lot of the DirectCD problems that are slimily blamed on the cd-rw
> media and the packet writing format are caused by these DirectCD bugs:
>
> -----------------------
> DirectCD 3.05
> Fixes
>
> Some older, low-speed recorders cannot correctly write high-speed
> rated CD-RW media, but DirectCD would formerly allow you to try.
>
> DirectCD now checks the media and
> will reject as appropriate. <=== FIXED ???
>
> DirectCD 5.3.4
> Fixed:
>
> Burn to Ultra High Speed media on non-Ultra High Speed Drives,
> no longer allowed <=== FIX a FIX ???
> -----------------------

Mikey's slimy "excuse" for the above DirectCD bugs:

======================


From: Mike Richter (King Troll)

Subject: Re: easycd creator direct cd problem
Date: 9/4/02

> I have easy cd creator 5 basic installed on a win2000 rpo machine.
> When formatting a cd using direct cd, the formatting and verifying
> status seems never ends. I wait for 2 hrs, the percentage status bar
> indicated it is 100% but the formatting didn't stop. I need to kill
> the program manually.

Presumably, you're working with an erasable (CD-RW) blank. If so, it's


poorly matched to your drive.

When formatting, each sector is checked
and if faulty retired from service. That process is very slow and
results in little or no formatted capacity; any that is available is
particularly unreliable.

Try some blanks which are better matched to your drive - have lower
error rates. However, be aware that fixed-length packets are the least
reliable and most fragile format available for writing CDs.
======================

smh

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A certain scam artist swears by the following:

"DirectCD bugs translate into the faults of packet writing"


"DirectCD bugs translate into unreliability of cd-rw media"

> A lot of the DirectCD problems that are slimily blamed on the cd-rw
> media and the packet writing format are caused by these DirectCD bugs:
> -----------------------
> DirectCD 3.05
> Fixes
>
> Some older, low-speed recorders cannot correctly write high-speed
> rated CD-RW media, but DirectCD would formerly allow you to try.
>
> DirectCD now checks the media and
> will reject as appropriate. <=== FIXED ???
>
> DirectCD 5.3.4
> Fixed:
>
> Burn to Ultra High Speed media on non-Ultra High Speed Drives,
> no longer allowed <=== FIX a FIX ???
> -----------------------

Here Mikey blamed the above DirectCD bugs on almost everything under the
sun, except DirectCD:

======================
From: Mike Richter (Lying Scum)

Subject: Re: Problem with Direct CD 3.05
Date: 11/22/02

> I used Direct CD for about one year without any problems. All of a sudden I
> found myself unable to format a CD-RW. For the most part the drive will just
> keep flashing and I have to shut and restart the computer to stop it and
> retrieve the disc.

Difficulty in formatting an erasable is most often due to the medium,
not to the software or drive hardware.

During a full format, each sector
is written and read back; if the error rate is excessive, the sector is
retried, then retired. Given errors, the process is very slow and even
if it succeeds, the disc is no longer reliable.

(Not that fixed-length packets are very reliable to begin with.)

Note that errors increase with erase cycles; the practical limit is far
less than the theoretical 1000 cycles.

You can check this by mastering an erasable then counting errors. You
should have better luck with a new erasable from a batch which has
worked before.

If that doesn't work, then try checking for dirt in the drive
- if necessary, blowing it out gently with "canned air".

smh

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Oct 7, 2003, 9:09:40 PM10/7/03
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Mike Richter, were you born with
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A certain scam artist swears by the following:

"DirectCD bugs translate into the faults of packet writing"


"DirectCD bugs translate into unreliability of cd-rw media"

> A lot of the DirectCD problems that are slimily blamed on the cd-rw
> media and the packet writing format are caused by these DirectCD bugs:
> -----------------------
> DirectCD 3.05
> Fixes
>
> Some older, low-speed recorders cannot correctly write high-speed
> rated CD-RW media, but DirectCD would formerly allow you to try.
>
> DirectCD now checks the media and
> will reject as appropriate. <=== FIXED ???
>
> DirectCD 5.3.4
> Fixed:
>
> Burn to Ultra High Speed media on non-Ultra High Speed Drives,
> no longer allowed <=== FIX a FIX ???
> -----------------------

Here Mikey may be slimily trying to imply that the above DirectCD bugs
are not bugs at all, or the bugs do not even exist -- since Mikey
supposedly knows all about High/Ultra Speed business:

======================
From: Mike Richter (Lying Scum)

Subject: Re: Can Any CDRW Drive rewrite any CDRW media?
Date: 6/5/03

Simply put, no, not all drives will write, erase, or overwrite all
erasable media. There are three categories of erasables: UltraSpeed,
HighSpeed, and undesignated. If your drive is UltraSpeed or HighSpeed,
it will be so designated on the logo on the faceplate. If not marked, it
means it is for undesignated discs.

[Liteon drives don't have such logos.]

If you do not use a blank with marking to match the designation on your
drive, you may be able to write more or less well and even to erase -
sometimes and without much confidence.

[Higher speed drives write to lower speed discs, ]
[except the initial 2x discs. ]

You may also find that a specific blank of the appropriate type is not
well written in your drive,

[ No friggin' shit, Mikey! ]

but the first step is to use matching
designations.

smh

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Oct 8, 2003, 4:11:41 PM10/8/03
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A certain scam artist swears by the following:

"DirectCD bugs translate into the faults of packet writing"


"DirectCD bugs translate into unreliability of cd-rw media"
>
> A lot of the DirectCD problems that are slimily blamed on the cd-rw
> media and the packet writing format are caused by these DirectCD bugs:
> -----------------------
> DirectCD 3.05
> Fixes
>
> Some older, low-speed recorders cannot correctly write high-speed
> rated CD-RW media, but DirectCD would formerly allow you to try.
>
> DirectCD now checks the media and
> will reject as appropriate. <=== FIXED ???
>
> DirectCD 5.3.4
> Fixed:
>
> Burn to Ultra High Speed media on non-Ultra High Speed Drives,
> no longer allowed <=== FIX a FIX ???
> -----------------------

"let the damn thing format, let's go out to dinner"!!

======================
From: Mike Richter (Lying Scum)

Subject: Re: DirectCD 5 .. More funnies
Date: 7/29/01

Incidentally, with a little experience,
you're likely to find that

formatting an erasable is not a problem.

Fixed-length packets make for the least reliable format for
CD recording and few people find a need for many such discs.

======================
From: Mr Bluster


Subject: Re: DirectCD 5 .. More funnies

Date: 7/30/01

All that you say is very true. The crux of the situation is that
earlier versions of DCD worked just fine. Upgrading to Platinum
inititiated the problem.

The wife insists,

"let the damn thing format, let's go out to dinner"!!

jreg...@gmail.com

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