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RayLopez99
Jul 2, 2012, 9:48:21 PM7/2/12
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Nobody, that's who.
RL
RL
atec77
Jul 2, 2012, 10:26:33 PM7/2/12
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On 3/07/2012 11:48 AM, RayLopez99 wrote:
> Nobody, that's who.
>
> RL
snark
> Nobody, that's who.
>
> RL
>
poortrolltrolltroll
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Aragorn
Jul 2, 2012, 11:17:20 PM7/2/12
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On Tuesday 03 July 2012 04:26, atec77 conveyed the following to
alt.comp.os.linux...
> On 3/07/2012 11:48 AM, RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> Nobody, that's who.
>>
>> RL
> snark
>>
> poortrolltrolltroll
RayLopez99 is a notorious comp.os.linux.advocacy troll who has been
reiterating this very same thread - with the same subject line - over
and over and over and over for years already. Usually the thread is
crossposted between his "home group" and comp.os.linux.setup. He's been
quiet for quite a while now, so I presume that they've let him out of
the loony bin again on probation.
By his own admission, RayLopez99 is a Microsoft shareholder, and
therefore has a vested interest in the potential demise of GNU/Linux and
Free & Open Source Software. At the same time, RayLopez99 is also - by
his own admission, again - a software pirate, using illegitimate copies
of the operating system made by the company whose shares he possesses.
Furthermore, the two words "Serious Work" in the subject line - with
uppercase initials - are exclusively and irrefutably defined by
RayLopez99 as "work that is done in Microsoft Office". In other words,
CAD/CAM, airline traffic control, operation of medical equipment and
life support systems, geological/seismological analyses, molecular
biology, astrophysics, quantum physics, nuclear physics, the motion
picture special effects industry, telecommunications, virtualization and
cloud infrastructures, stock markets et al are by definition not
"Serious Work" in RayLopez99's view.
Only word processing, spreadsheets and presentations are. This
definition by RayLopez99 is _not_ _negotiable_ - just so as to have a
strawman that can be repeated over and over and over ad nauseam.
RayLopez99 claims to have an IQ of 150 and to be a multi-millionaire
(who uses pirated copies of Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office).
Various hand-holding attempts have been made at helping RayLopez99 out
when running an Ubuntu live CD and installing Ubuntu, all invariably
with catastrophic results, because he's simply too thick to learn
anything. It is therefore very likely that the "99" in his pseudonym
refer to either his year of birth, or to his actual IQ.
Lastly, RayLopez99 is also an overt racist and supporter of corporate
fascism.
All regulars /and/ GNUbies of alt.comp.os.linux are therefore
wholeheartedly advised to add a killfile entry for RayLopez99. Nothing
good can come out of any thread started by him, and nothing worth
reading will ever come out of his keyboard.
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= Aragorn =
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
alt.comp.os.linux...
> On 3/07/2012 11:48 AM, RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> Nobody, that's who.
>>
>> RL
> snark
>>
> poortrolltrolltroll
reiterating this very same thread - with the same subject line - over
and over and over and over for years already. Usually the thread is
crossposted between his "home group" and comp.os.linux.setup. He's been
quiet for quite a while now, so I presume that they've let him out of
the loony bin again on probation.
By his own admission, RayLopez99 is a Microsoft shareholder, and
therefore has a vested interest in the potential demise of GNU/Linux and
Free & Open Source Software. At the same time, RayLopez99 is also - by
his own admission, again - a software pirate, using illegitimate copies
of the operating system made by the company whose shares he possesses.
Furthermore, the two words "Serious Work" in the subject line - with
uppercase initials - are exclusively and irrefutably defined by
RayLopez99 as "work that is done in Microsoft Office". In other words,
CAD/CAM, airline traffic control, operation of medical equipment and
life support systems, geological/seismological analyses, molecular
biology, astrophysics, quantum physics, nuclear physics, the motion
picture special effects industry, telecommunications, virtualization and
cloud infrastructures, stock markets et al are by definition not
"Serious Work" in RayLopez99's view.
Only word processing, spreadsheets and presentations are. This
definition by RayLopez99 is _not_ _negotiable_ - just so as to have a
strawman that can be repeated over and over and over ad nauseam.
RayLopez99 claims to have an IQ of 150 and to be a multi-millionaire
(who uses pirated copies of Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office).
Various hand-holding attempts have been made at helping RayLopez99 out
when running an Ubuntu live CD and installing Ubuntu, all invariably
with catastrophic results, because he's simply too thick to learn
anything. It is therefore very likely that the "99" in his pseudonym
refer to either his year of birth, or to his actual IQ.
Lastly, RayLopez99 is also an overt racist and supporter of corporate
fascism.
All regulars /and/ GNUbies of alt.comp.os.linux are therefore
wholeheartedly advised to add a killfile entry for RayLopez99. Nothing
good can come out of any thread started by him, and nothing worth
reading will ever come out of his keyboard.
--
= Aragorn =
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
Paul Madarasz
Jul 3, 2012, 11:08:28 AM7/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 18:48:21 -0700 (PDT), RayLopez99
<raylo...@gmail.com> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>Nobody, that's who.
>
>RL
"I'm nobody"
-- E. Dickinson (and me)
<raylo...@gmail.com> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>Nobody, that's who.
>
>RL
-- E. Dickinson (and me)
Paul Madarasz
Jul 3, 2012, 11:09:21 AM7/3/12
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 05:17:20 +0200, Aragorn
<str...@telenet.be.invalid> wrote, perhaps among other things:
Thank you for this. I'm sorry to have replied to him.
<str...@telenet.be.invalid> wrote, perhaps among other things:
Aragorn
Jul 3, 2012, 11:24:13 AM7/3/12
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On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:09, Paul Madarasz conveyed the following to
newsgroup the heads-up about this troll and his intents. He's clearly
mentally ill and enjoys rattling the proverbial cages of GNU/Linux
users.
alt.comp.os.linux...
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 05:17:20 +0200, Aragorn
> <str...@telenet.be.invalid> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>
>> On Tuesday 03 July 2012 04:26, atec77 conveyed the following to
>> alt.comp.os.linux...
>>
>>> On 3/07/2012 11:48 AM, RayLopez99 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nobody, that's who.
>>>>
>>>> RL
>>> snark
>>>>
>>> poortrolltrolltroll
>>
>> RayLopez99 is a notorious comp.os.linux.advocacy troll who has been
>> reiterating this very same thread - with the same subject line - over
>> and over and over and over for years already. Usually the thread is
>> crossposted between his "home group" and comp.os.linux.setup. He's
>> been quiet for quite a while now, so I presume that they've let him
>> out of the loony bin again on probation.
>>
>> [...]
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 05:17:20 +0200, Aragorn
> <str...@telenet.be.invalid> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>
>> On Tuesday 03 July 2012 04:26, atec77 conveyed the following to
>> alt.comp.os.linux...
>>
>>> On 3/07/2012 11:48 AM, RayLopez99 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nobody, that's who.
>>>>
>>>> RL
>>> snark
>>>>
>>> poortrolltrolltroll
>>
>> RayLopez99 is a notorious comp.os.linux.advocacy troll who has been
>> reiterating this very same thread - with the same subject line - over
>> and over and over and over for years already. Usually the thread is
>> crossposted between his "home group" and comp.os.linux.setup. He's
>> been quiet for quite a while now, so I presume that they've let him
>> out of the loony bin again on probation.
>>
>>
>> All regulars /and/ GNUbies of alt.comp.os.linux are therefore
>> wholeheartedly advised to add a killfile entry for RayLopez99.
>> Nothing good can come out of any thread started by him, and nothing
>> worth reading will ever come out of his keyboard.
>
> Thank you for this. I'm sorry to have replied to him.
No harm done. I just felt that I needed to give the readers of this
>> All regulars /and/ GNUbies of alt.comp.os.linux are therefore
>> wholeheartedly advised to add a killfile entry for RayLopez99.
>> Nothing good can come out of any thread started by him, and nothing
>> worth reading will ever come out of his keyboard.
>
> Thank you for this. I'm sorry to have replied to him.
newsgroup the heads-up about this troll and his intents. He's clearly
mentally ill and enjoys rattling the proverbial cages of GNU/Linux
users.
Chris F.A. Johnson
Jul 3, 2012, 1:29:07 PM7/3/12
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On 2012-07-03, RayLopez99 wrote:
> Nobody, that's who.
Then I know hundreds of nobodies.
> Nobody, that's who.
(I have nothing else on my own computers.)
--
Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfajohnson.com>
Author: =======================
Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress)
Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)
atec77
Jul 3, 2012, 6:47:35 PM7/3/12
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loss either :)
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atec77
Jul 3, 2012, 6:48:25 PM7/3/12
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On 4/07/2012 3:29 AM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
> On 2012-07-03, RayLopez99 wrote:
>> Nobody, that's who.
>
> Then I know hundreds of nobodies.
>
> (I have nothing else on my own computers.)
>
I have this virtual winblows , but it is limited in it's ability and
> On 2012-07-03, RayLopez99 wrote:
>> Nobody, that's who.
>
> Then I know hundreds of nobodies.
>
> (I have nothing else on my own computers.)
>
scope , other computers other o/s
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Aragorn
Jul 3, 2012, 9:24:14 PM7/3/12
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On Wednesday 04 July 2012 00:47, atec77 conveyed the following to
alt.comp.os.linux...
> On 4/07/2012 1:24 AM, Aragorn wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:09, Paul Madarasz conveyed the following
>> to alt.comp.os.linux...
>>
>>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 05:17:20 +0200, Aragorn
>>> <str...@telenet.be.invalid> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>>>
which I replied (rather elaborately) was a direct reply from you to
RayLopez99.
I used to have him in my killfile as well, but after a reinstall of my
distribution due to disk failure I had to reconstruct my killfile
entries, and RayLopez99 had not posted anything anymore in the meantime,
so I didn't have a filter on him anymore. That's how I noticed that he
was regurgitating the same old thread again yesterday. I have in the
meantime re-added him, across a whole series of groups he's likely to
harass.
alt.comp.os.linux...
> On 4/07/2012 1:24 AM, Aragorn wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:09, Paul Madarasz conveyed the following
>> to alt.comp.os.linux...
>>
>>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 05:17:20 +0200, Aragorn
>>> <str...@telenet.be.invalid> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>> All regulars /and/ GNUbies of alt.comp.os.linux are therefore
>>>> wholeheartedly advised to add a killfile entry for RayLopez99.
>>>> Nothing good can come out of any thread started by him, and nothing
>>>> worth reading will ever come out of his keyboard.
>>>
>>> Thank you for this. I'm sorry to have replied to him.
>>
>> No harm done. I just felt that I needed to give the readers of this
>> newsgroup the heads-up about this troll and his intents. He's
>> clearly mentally ill and enjoys rattling the proverbial cages of
>> GNU/Linux users.
>>
> I simply don't see his rampant rubbish having plonked it ages ago , no
> loss either :)
That's odd, because the article >news:jstl8q$44u$1...@dont-email.me> to
>>>> All regulars /and/ GNUbies of alt.comp.os.linux are therefore
>>>> wholeheartedly advised to add a killfile entry for RayLopez99.
>>>> Nothing good can come out of any thread started by him, and nothing
>>>> worth reading will ever come out of his keyboard.
>>>
>>> Thank you for this. I'm sorry to have replied to him.
>>
>> No harm done. I just felt that I needed to give the readers of this
>> newsgroup the heads-up about this troll and his intents. He's
>> clearly mentally ill and enjoys rattling the proverbial cages of
>> GNU/Linux users.
>>
> I simply don't see his rampant rubbish having plonked it ages ago , no
> loss either :)
which I replied (rather elaborately) was a direct reply from you to
RayLopez99.
I used to have him in my killfile as well, but after a reinstall of my
distribution due to disk failure I had to reconstruct my killfile
entries, and RayLopez99 had not posted anything anymore in the meantime,
so I didn't have a filter on him anymore. That's how I noticed that he
was regurgitating the same old thread again yesterday. I have in the
meantime re-added him, across a whole series of groups he's likely to
harass.
Aragorn
Jul 3, 2012, 9:25:41 PM7/3/12
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On Tuesday 03 July 2012 19:29, Chris F.A. Johnson conveyed the following
to alt.comp.os.linux...
> On 2012-07-03, RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> Nobody, that's who.
>
> Then I know hundreds of nobodies.
+1
> (I have nothing else on my own computers.)
+1
to alt.comp.os.linux...
> On 2012-07-03, RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> Nobody, that's who.
>
> Then I know hundreds of nobodies.
> (I have nothing else on my own computers.)
atec77
Jul 3, 2012, 10:28:02 PM7/3/12
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On 4/07/2012 11:24 AM, Aragorn wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 July 2012 00:47, atec77 conveyed the following to
> alt.comp.os.linux...
>
>> On 4/07/2012 1:24 AM, Aragorn wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:09, Paul Madarasz conveyed the following
>>> to alt.comp.os.linux...
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 05:17:20 +0200, Aragorn
>>>> <str...@telenet.be.invalid> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> All regulars /and/ GNUbies of alt.comp.os.linux are therefore
>>>>> wholeheartedly advised to add a killfile entry for RayLopez99.
>>>>> Nothing good can come out of any thread started by him, and nothing
>>>>> worth reading will ever come out of his keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for this. I'm sorry to have replied to him.
>>>
>>> No harm done. I just felt that I needed to give the readers of this
>>> newsgroup the heads-up about this troll and his intents. He's
>>> clearly mentally ill and enjoys rattling the proverbial cages of
>>> GNU/Linux users.
>>>
>> I simply don't see his rampant rubbish having plonked it ages ago , no
>> loss either :)
>
> That's odd, because the article >news:jstl8q$44u$1...@dont-email.me> to
> which I replied (rather elaborately) was a direct reply from you to
> RayLopez99.
Different machine
> On Wednesday 04 July 2012 00:47, atec77 conveyed the following to
> alt.comp.os.linux...
>
>> On 4/07/2012 1:24 AM, Aragorn wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:09, Paul Madarasz conveyed the following
>>> to alt.comp.os.linux...
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 05:17:20 +0200, Aragorn
>>>> <str...@telenet.be.invalid> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> All regulars /and/ GNUbies of alt.comp.os.linux are therefore
>>>>> wholeheartedly advised to add a killfile entry for RayLopez99.
>>>>> Nothing good can come out of any thread started by him, and nothing
>>>>> worth reading will ever come out of his keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for this. I'm sorry to have replied to him.
>>>
>>> No harm done. I just felt that I needed to give the readers of this
>>> newsgroup the heads-up about this troll and his intents. He's
>>> clearly mentally ill and enjoys rattling the proverbial cages of
>>> GNU/Linux users.
>>>
>> I simply don't see his rampant rubbish having plonked it ages ago , no
>> loss either :)
>
> That's odd, because the article >news:jstl8q$44u$1...@dont-email.me> to
> which I replied (rather elaborately) was a direct reply from you to
> RayLopez99.
>
> I used to have him in my killfile as well, but after a reinstall of my
> distribution due to disk failure I had to reconstruct my killfile
> entries, and RayLopez99 had not posted anything anymore in the meantime,
> so I didn't have a filter on him anymore. That's how I noticed that he
> was regurgitating the same old thread again yesterday. I have in the
> meantime re-added him, across a whole series of groups he's likely to
> harass.
>
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> I used to have him in my killfile as well, but after a reinstall of my
> distribution due to disk failure I had to reconstruct my killfile
> entries, and RayLopez99 had not posted anything anymore in the meantime,
> so I didn't have a filter on him anymore. That's how I noticed that he
> was regurgitating the same old thread again yesterday. I have in the
> meantime re-added him, across a whole series of groups he's likely to
> harass.
>
--
Archenoth
Jul 4, 2012, 9:50:56 PM7/4/12
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On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:17:20 -0600, Aragorn <str...@telenet.be.invalid>
wrote:
Figures the first activity since I joined this group was the result of a
troll...
Ah well...
--
The arch foe
wrote:
troll...
Ah well...
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Aragorn
Jul 4, 2012, 10:06:27 PM7/4/12
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On Thursday 05 July 2012 03:50, Archenoth conveyed the following to
Don't worry about it. It's the season. Summer break in the Northern
hemisphere, so juvenile delinquents like RayLopez99 - who is a US
American and thus a resident of the Northern hemisphere - are on
vacation now. His mommy probably takes his computer away on schooldays.
;-)
hemisphere, so juvenile delinquents like RayLopez99 - who is a US
American and thus a resident of the Northern hemisphere - are on
vacation now. His mommy probably takes his computer away on schooldays.
;-)
RayLopez99
Jul 5, 2012, 7:44:01 PM7/5/12
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Oh, Linux has 1% desktop market share. As a software professional you know what that means--nobody codes in Linux either. Seriously.
RL
Archenoth
Jul 10, 2012, 8:55:39 PM7/10/12
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 20:06:27 -0600, Aragorn <str...@telenet.be.invalid>
I love how subtle he is... Almost as subtle as throwing a flaming brick
through the window of a gun shop in Russia.
--
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through the window of a gun shop in Russia.
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The arch foe
Mr. B-o-B
Aug 9, 2012, 11:25:10 PM8/9/12
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On 7/5/2012 6:44 PM, RayLopez99 cried from the depths of the abyss:
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 1:29:07 PM UTC-4, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>> On 2012-07-03, RayLopez99 wrote:
>>> Nobody, that's who.
>>
>> Then I know hundreds of nobodies.
>>
>> (I have nothing else on my own computers.)
>>
>> -- Chris F.A. Johnson
>> <http://cfajohnson.com> Author:
>> ======================= Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the
>> GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress) Shell Scripting Recipes: A
>> Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)
>
> Read between the lines, Aragorn's summary of me is not that bad. I
> am indeed wealthy, smarter than most here, and a Windows shareholder
> and user who will not pay for stuff (software, books) if I can find a
> free copy online, unless it's stuff I want to own, for things like
> updates, and yes, insofar as Apress books go (I also code in C#, and
> some of my programs are in the public domain) books I wish to have a
> physical copy of, which is often better for didactic purposes than
> the PDF version.
Your command of a run-on sentence is impressive.
>> On 2012-07-03, RayLopez99 wrote:
>>> Nobody, that's who.
>>
>> Then I know hundreds of nobodies.
>>
>> (I have nothing else on my own computers.)
>>
>> -- Chris F.A. Johnson
>> <http://cfajohnson.com> Author:
>> ======================= Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the
>> GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress) Shell Scripting Recipes: A
>> Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)
>
> Read between the lines, Aragorn's summary of me is not that bad. I
> am indeed wealthy, smarter than most here, and a Windows shareholder
> and user who will not pay for stuff (software, books) if I can find a
> free copy online, unless it's stuff I want to own, for things like
> updates, and yes, insofar as Apress books go (I also code in C#, and
> some of my programs are in the public domain) books I wish to have a
> physical copy of, which is often better for didactic purposes than
> the PDF version.
Pinnerite
Aug 23, 2012, 5:09:07 AM8/23/12
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RayLopez99 wrote:
> Nobody, that's who.
>
> RL
--
> Nobody, that's who.
>
> RL
I only just caught this. It is true that I cannot use Linux for everything
but by the same token, I cannot use Windows for everything either. I use
Linux for all on-line stuff. Gimp for manipulating graphics.
For my professional work I have to use programs that are either not
replicated on Linux or are not up to it. Fortunately VMware Player enables
me to run XP seamlessly alongside Mageia and with twin screens I am in
dabbler heaven!
I know someone is bound to ask. I use VMware because it enables me to run
Dragon Naturally Speaking from XP.
I would love to engage on projects such as bookkeeping that are poorly
represented in Linux but my programming skills are severely deprecated.
________________________________________________
Magaia 2 for x86_64
Kernel 3.3.8-desktop-2.mga2
KDE version 4.8.4
Running on an AMD 4-core processor
RayLopez99
Oct 14, 2012, 6:41:44 AM10/14/12
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On Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:09:07 PM UTC+3, Pinnerite wrote:
[at last, an honest Linux user who admits that they use Windows programs]
Well, I have a confession to make as well: I installed LibreOffice on an old XP machine the other day and was pleasantly surprised that it exports to Word .docx. Mind you, I'm not planning to give up on Word, but it was a pleasant surprise and for the newbie non-power user using the XP machine, perfectly fine.
RL
[at last, an honest Linux user who admits that they use Windows programs]
Well, I have a confession to make as well: I installed LibreOffice on an old XP machine the other day and was pleasantly surprised that it exports to Word .docx. Mind you, I'm not planning to give up on Word, but it was a pleasant surprise and for the newbie non-power user using the XP machine, perfectly fine.
RL
Úcarenya
Nov 11, 2012, 11:39:27 PM11/11/12
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RayLopez99 <raylo...@gmail.com>:
I watch movie and play MMO in Linux... If that counts
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adiabic
Nov 15, 2012, 10:59:05 AM11/15/12
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:09:07 +0100, Pinnerite wrote:
> RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> Nobody, that's who.
>>
>> RL
Wrong :)
> RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> Nobody, that's who.
>>
>> RL
I know a lot of people who do business accounting on it with open-source
accounting software LedgerSMB
Burkhard Ott
Nov 15, 2012, 11:40:17 AM11/15/12
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:09:07 +0100, Pinnerite wrote:
>> Nobody, that's who.
>>
>> RL
Me, since 1997. Never used anything else since that time.
>> Nobody, that's who.
>>
>> RL
JT
Nov 15, 2012, 11:43:26 AM11/15/12
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+1
--
Kind regards, JT
Burkhard Ott
Nov 15, 2012, 2:20:36 PM11/15/12
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system.
I also figured that I'm much more productive using Linux.
adiabic
Nov 16, 2012, 3:10:17 PM11/16/12
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Is it already around that long?
I thought it was quite a recent fork of LedgerSQL.
And recently much improved over LedgerSQL :)
RayLopez99
Dec 2, 2012, 10:46:32 AM12/2/12
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Carry on.
RL
Chris F.A. Johnson
Dec 2, 2012, 4:34:41 PM12/2/12
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On 2012-12-02, RayLopez99 wrote:
anything. They are not needed.
>> > Well, I have a confession to make as well: I installed LibreOffice
>> > on an old XP machine the other day and was pleasantly surprised that
>> > it exports to Word .docx. Mind you, I'm not planning to give up on
>> > Word, but it was a pleasant surprise and for the newbie non-power
>> > user using the XP machine, perfectly fine.
>>
>> > RL
>>
>> I watch movie and play MMO in Linux... If that counts
>
If that's the only criterion you have for "serious work", you are
extremely limited in scope.
Some of the serious work I am doing right now is cleaning up the
mess that MSWord makes of HTML.
> On Monday, November 12, 2012 6:39:29 AM UTC+2, �carenya wrote:
>> RayLopez99 <raylo...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > On Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:09:07 PM UTC+3, Pinnerite wrote: [at
>>
>> > last, an honest Linux user who admits that they use Windows programs]
This honest Linux user does not use Windows or Windows programs for
>> RayLopez99 <raylo...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > On Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:09:07 PM UTC+3, Pinnerite wrote: [at
>>
>> > last, an honest Linux user who admits that they use Windows programs]
anything. They are not needed.
>> > Well, I have a confession to make as well: I installed LibreOffice
>> > on an old XP machine the other day and was pleasantly surprised that
>> > it exports to Word .docx. Mind you, I'm not planning to give up on
>> > Word, but it was a pleasant surprise and for the newbie non-power
>> > user using the XP machine, perfectly fine.
>>
>> > RL
>>
>> I watch movie and play MMO in Linux... If that counts
>
> No, it does not count, sorry. By Serious Work I mean producing a
> binary file that is 100% compatible with Microsoft Office.
That's not serious work; that's producing an unnecessarily complex file.
> binary file that is 100% compatible with Microsoft Office.
If that's the only criterion you have for "serious work", you are
extremely limited in scope.
Some of the serious work I am doing right now is cleaning up the
mess that MSWord makes of HTML.
J G Miller
Dec 2, 2012, 5:48:23 PM12/2/12
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On Sunday, December 2nd, 2012, at 07:46:32h -0800, Ray Lopez 99 explained:
> By Serious Work I mean producing a binary file that is
> 100% compatible with Microsoft Office.
I guess the Large Hadron Collider does no "Serious Work" then.
<http://unixmen.com/15-weirdsurprising-devices-amp-systems-that-run-on-linux/>
Obviously you only consider "paper pushers" creating Microsoft Office
documents the only people who do "Serious Work".
> By Serious Work I mean producing a binary file that is
> 100% compatible with Microsoft Office.
<http://unixmen.com/15-weirdsurprising-devices-amp-systems-that-run-on-linux/>
Obviously you only consider "paper pushers" creating Microsoft Office
documents the only people who do "Serious Work".
JT
Dec 3, 2012, 6:41:06 AM12/3/12
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So your question is either retorical or serves no purpose, which by (my)
definition means that it's at least a waste of time.
So: I'm feeding the troll right now?
> Thanks for your understanding.
>
> Carry on.
>
> RL
Kind regards, JT
RayLopez99
Dec 6, 2012, 5:19:47 PM12/6/12
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On Sunday, December 2, 2012 11:34:41 PM UTC+2, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
> Some of the serious work I am doing right now is cleaning up the
>
> mess that MSWord makes of HTML.
Yes, Word is not good for doing stuff like XML or HTML, that's for sure. But you're talking about programming, whereas I'm talking about 'paper pushers' aka Serious Work. Remember an average office worker makes about $60k USD and that's what's driving Microsoft--not hobbyists, authors like you, programmers like you and I, nor some particle physicist working at CERN.
> Some of the serious work I am doing right now is cleaning up the
>
> mess that MSWord makes of HTML.
> --
>
> Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfajohnson.com>
>
> Author: =======================
>
> Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress)
>
> Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)
RL
RayLopez99
Dec 6, 2012, 5:22:03 PM12/6/12
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On Monday, December 3, 2012 12:48:23 AM UTC+2, J G Miller wrote:
> Obviously you only consider "paper pushers" creating Microsoft Office
>
> documents the only people who do "Serious Work".
Right. Good observation Miller, I put your IQ at over 100, which is saying something for this newsgroup.
> Obviously you only consider "paper pushers" creating Microsoft Office
>
> documents the only people who do "Serious Work".
RL
RayLopez99
Dec 6, 2012, 5:30:42 PM12/6/12
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On Monday, December 3, 2012 1:41:06 PM UTC+2, JT wrote:
> So your question is either retorical or serves no purpose, which by (my)
>
> definition means that it's at least a waste of time.
No. Incorrect. In fact, you make the same mistake opponents of Microsoft have made, that are now in the corporate graveyard.
> So your question is either retorical or serves no purpose, which by (my)
>
> definition means that it's at least a waste of time.
It's not at all a waste of time. It's a multi-billion dollar question: how to make a common market so that people can do serious work? Answer: by defining a market for Serious Work. And here's a hint: Serious Work is not achieved by having less than 1% market share.
RL
Chris F.A. Johnson
Dec 6, 2012, 7:23:19 PM12/6/12
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On 2012-12-06, RayLopez99 wrote:
> On Sunday, December 2, 2012 11:34:41 PM UTC+2, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>
>> Some of the serious work I am doing right now is cleaning up the
>>
>> mess that MSWord makes of HTML.
>
> Yes, Word is not good for doing stuff like XML or HTML, that's for
> sure. But you're talking about programming,
HTML is not programming.
> On Sunday, December 2, 2012 11:34:41 PM UTC+2, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>
>> Some of the serious work I am doing right now is cleaning up the
>>
>> mess that MSWord makes of HTML.
>
> Yes, Word is not good for doing stuff like XML or HTML, that's for
> sure. But you're talking about programming,
> whereas I'm talking about 'paper pushers' aka Serious Work. Remember
> an average office worker makes about $60k USD and that's what's
> driving Microsoft--not hobbyists, authors like you, programmers like
> you and I, nor some particle physicist working at CERN.
narrow.
>
>> --
>>
>> Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfajohnson.com>
>>
>> Author: =======================
>>
>> Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress)
>>
>> Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)
>
> Apress, a good company, albeit expensive, though I've bought paper
> copies. When their e-books show up at piratebay I regularly try and
> download them.
atec77
Dec 6, 2012, 7:57:41 PM12/6/12
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On 7/12/2012 10:23 AM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
> On 2012-12-06, RayLopez99 wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 2, 2012 11:34:41 PM UTC+2, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Some of the serious work I am doing right now is cleaning up the
>>>
>>> mess that MSWord makes of HTML.
>>
>> Yes, Word is not good for doing stuff like XML or HTML, that's for
>> sure. But you're talking about programming,
>
> HTML is not programming.
>
>> whereas I'm talking about 'paper pushers' aka Serious Work. Remember
>> an average office worker makes about $60k USD and that's what's
>> driving Microsoft--not hobbyists, authors like you, programmers like
>> you and I, nor some particle physicist working at CERN.
>
> As I said before, your definition of Serious Work is ridiculously
> narrow.
>
>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfajohnson.com>
>>>
>>> Author: =======================
>>>
>>> Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress)
>>>
>>> Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)
>>
>> Apress, a good company, albeit expensive, though I've bought paper
>> copies. When their e-books show up at piratebay I regularly try and
>> download them.
>
> That doesn't surprise me.
>
Fact is by running thin edge clients or stand alone nix work stations
> On 2012-12-06, RayLopez99 wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 2, 2012 11:34:41 PM UTC+2, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Some of the serious work I am doing right now is cleaning up the
>>>
>>> mess that MSWord makes of HTML.
>>
>> Yes, Word is not good for doing stuff like XML or HTML, that's for
>> sure. But you're talking about programming,
>
> HTML is not programming.
>
>> whereas I'm talking about 'paper pushers' aka Serious Work. Remember
>> an average office worker makes about $60k USD and that's what's
>> driving Microsoft--not hobbyists, authors like you, programmers like
>> you and I, nor some particle physicist working at CERN.
>
> As I said before, your definition of Serious Work is ridiculously
> narrow.
>
>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfajohnson.com>
>>>
>>> Author: =======================
>>>
>>> Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress)
>>>
>>> Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)
>>
>> Apress, a good company, albeit expensive, though I've bought paper
>> copies. When their e-books show up at piratebay I regularly try and
>> download them.
>
> That doesn't surprise me.
>
productivity goes way up , why because all the toys and distractions
don't work by default
Microsoft product is popular because of the distractions
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unruh
Dec 7, 2012, 2:37:43 AM12/7/12
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Why is anyone responding to this rediculous poster? He comes here and
asks the same question about once every three months, and never listens
to the answers anyway.
asks the same question about once every three months, and never listens
to the answers anyway.
atec77
Dec 7, 2012, 3:54:14 AM12/7/12
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On 7/12/2012 5:37 PM, unruh wrote:
> On 2012-12-07, Chris F.A. Johnson <cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2012-12-06, RayLopez99 wrote:
>>
>
> Why is anyone responding to this rediculous poster?
Many of us don't
> On 2012-12-07, Chris F.A. Johnson <cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2012-12-06, RayLopez99 wrote:
>>
>
> Why is anyone responding to this rediculous poster?
He comes here and
> asks the same question about once every three months, and never listens
> to the answers anyway.
>
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RayLopez99
Dec 8, 2012, 5:14:37 AM12/8/12
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On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:23:19 AM UTC+2, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
So I guess you are not a serious programmer either.
PS--I don't plan on buying your book. Or even downloading it. I do code, not word processing.
RL
> On 2012-12-06, RayLopez99 wrote:
> > Yes, Word is not good for doing stuff like XML or HTML, that's for
>
> > sure. But you're talking about programming,
>
>
>
> HTML is not programming.
>
>
Oh I'm sorry. I assumed you were manipulating HTML programically. But apparently you are editing HTML (my secretary does that).
> > Yes, Word is not good for doing stuff like XML or HTML, that's for
>
> > sure. But you're talking about programming,
>
>
>
> HTML is not programming.
>
>
So I guess you are not a serious programmer either.
PS--I don't plan on buying your book. Or even downloading it. I do code, not word processing.
RL
Chris F.A. Johnson
Dec 8, 2012, 11:55:20 AM12/8/12
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On 2012-12-08, RayLopez99 wrote:
> On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:23:19 AM UTC+2, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>> On 2012-12-06, RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> > Yes, Word is not good for doing stuff like XML or HTML, that's for
>>
>> > sure. But you're talking about programming,
>>
>> HTML is not programming.
>
> Oh I'm sorry. I assumed you were manipulating HTML programically.
I do that, too.
> On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:23:19 AM UTC+2, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>> On 2012-12-06, RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> > Yes, Word is not good for doing stuff like XML or HTML, that's for
>>
>> > sure. But you're talking about programming,
>>
>> HTML is not programming.
>
> Oh I'm sorry. I assumed you were manipulating HTML programically.
That doesn't make HTML a programming language; it's not.
> But apparently you are editing HTML (my secretary does that).
> So I guess you are not a serious programmer either.
> PS--I don't plan on buying your book. Or even downloading it.
> I do code, not word processing.
years for more was to write my books.
adiabic
Dec 20, 2012, 10:54:59 PM12/20/12
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adiabic
Dec 20, 2012, 10:58:36 PM12/20/12
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your own secretary.
Pete
Jun 13, 2013, 2:45:51 PM6/13/13
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On 07/02/2012 09:48 PM, RayLopez99 wrote:
> Nobody, that's who.
>
> RL
>
I use it to write books.
> Nobody, that's who.
>
> RL
>
Aragorn
Jun 13, 2013, 4:08:12 PM6/13/13
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On Thursday 13 June 2013 20:45, Pete conveyed the following to
alt.comp.os.linux...
> On 07/02/2012 09:48 PM, RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> Nobody, that's who.
>
1. You are replying to a post from the beginning of last year.
2. RayLopez99 is a notorious and self-confessed Win-troll from
comp.os.linux.advocacy who regularly reiterates the same old
drivel over and over again in non-advocacy newsgroups because,
by his own admission...
- he is a Microsoft shareholder; and
- he does it to piss off the GNU/Linux users.
Note also that the premise of the subject line is engineered to have
RayLopez99 always come out as the winner of the debate because he
deliberately moves the goal posts so that the term Serious Work ™ as
defined by him is synonymous with "work which is done in Microsoft
Office", and nothing else.
So in other words, even if you use office productivity software on
GNU/Linux, then you would not qualify as someone doing Serious Work ™ as
defined by RayLopez99, because you are not doing it in the _Microsoft
Office_ suite. Furthermore, scientific research, engineering, weather
forecasting et al are not Serious Work ™ as defined by RayLopez99. He
defines those as "important" work, but not Serious Work ™".
RayLopez99 has been doing his trolling for many years already, and most
regulars in GNU/Linux newsgroups on Usenet already know him and have him
killfiled, since it is foolish to engage him in a debate one cannot win
(due to his redefinition of the term Serious Work), and because you'd
only be feeding him and his buddies [*] and stimulating them at cross-
posting other troll threads from comp.os.linux.advocacy to non-advocacy
newsgroups. In addition to that, the guy is simply a certifiable moron
and a liar.
(For one, he claims that his IQ is higher than that of Albert Einstein -
even though all evidence seems to indicate that his IQ would be
somewhere around the 100 meridian or even below - and that he is a self-
made multi-millionaire, but at the same time, he admits to exclusively
be using pirated copies of the very proprietary software he advocates
and of whose parent company he is a shareholder.)
[*] Flatfish+++, Big Steel (alias "One Shot, One Kill"), Snit, and
other assorted humanoid trash. comp.os.linux.advocacy isn't
even an actual advocacy group anymore, if it ever was, because
I've been subscribed there for a while myself somewhere in the
middle of the past decade and it was already a sewer back then.
It's a newsgroup dedicated to mud slinging and ad hominems.
--
= Aragorn =
GNU/Linux user #223157 - http://www.linuxcounter.net
alt.comp.os.linux...
> On 07/02/2012 09:48 PM, RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> Nobody, that's who.
>
> I use it to write books.
Please note that...
1. You are replying to a post from the beginning of last year.
2. RayLopez99 is a notorious and self-confessed Win-troll from
comp.os.linux.advocacy who regularly reiterates the same old
drivel over and over again in non-advocacy newsgroups because,
by his own admission...
- he is a Microsoft shareholder; and
- he does it to piss off the GNU/Linux users.
Note also that the premise of the subject line is engineered to have
RayLopez99 always come out as the winner of the debate because he
deliberately moves the goal posts so that the term Serious Work ™ as
defined by him is synonymous with "work which is done in Microsoft
Office", and nothing else.
So in other words, even if you use office productivity software on
GNU/Linux, then you would not qualify as someone doing Serious Work ™ as
defined by RayLopez99, because you are not doing it in the _Microsoft
Office_ suite. Furthermore, scientific research, engineering, weather
forecasting et al are not Serious Work ™ as defined by RayLopez99. He
defines those as "important" work, but not Serious Work ™".
RayLopez99 has been doing his trolling for many years already, and most
regulars in GNU/Linux newsgroups on Usenet already know him and have him
killfiled, since it is foolish to engage him in a debate one cannot win
(due to his redefinition of the term Serious Work), and because you'd
only be feeding him and his buddies [*] and stimulating them at cross-
posting other troll threads from comp.os.linux.advocacy to non-advocacy
newsgroups. In addition to that, the guy is simply a certifiable moron
and a liar.
(For one, he claims that his IQ is higher than that of Albert Einstein -
even though all evidence seems to indicate that his IQ would be
somewhere around the 100 meridian or even below - and that he is a self-
made multi-millionaire, but at the same time, he admits to exclusively
be using pirated copies of the very proprietary software he advocates
and of whose parent company he is a shareholder.)
[*] Flatfish+++, Big Steel (alias "One Shot, One Kill"), Snit, and
other assorted humanoid trash. comp.os.linux.advocacy isn't
even an actual advocacy group anymore, if it ever was, because
I've been subscribed there for a while myself somewhere in the
middle of the past decade and it was already a sewer back then.
It's a newsgroup dedicated to mud slinging and ad hominems.
--
= Aragorn =
GNU/Linux user #223157 - http://www.linuxcounter.net
RayLopez99
Oct 7, 2013, 10:54:23 AM10/7/13
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On Friday, June 14, 2013 4:08:12 AM UTC+8, Aragorn wrote:
>
>
> = Aragorn =
>
> GNU/Linux user #223157 - http://www.linuxcounter.net
Araporn you do not make sense. But then again you are dyslexic and autistic and who knows what else. Once upon a time, mental health professionals made sharp demarcations between various mental illnesses like "schizophrenia" and "autism" and "depression" and the like, but nowadays it's simply understood they are part of a continuum. Crazy people like Aragorn have their brain wired different from the rest of us, usually for the worse. But I wish you no harm. Do NOT do something stupid just because you feel slighted by me (I have to add this disclaimer since the poor nutter is unstable).
>
>
> = Aragorn =
>
> GNU/Linux user #223157 - http://www.linuxcounter.net
As for Serious Work, I agree with your definition that you borrowed from me. Serious Work is only done by Office, yet I am, as a Microsoft shareholder, disappointed by the latest Office 2013, which got bad reviews, and will not be upgrading anytime soon.
Enjoy your toy OS aka "Linux".
RL
Loki Harfagr
Oct 9, 2013, 1:52:44 AM10/9/13
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Mon, 07 Oct 2013 07:54:23 -0700, RayLopez99 did cat :
> On Friday, June 14, 2013 4:08:12 AM UTC+8, Aragorn wrote:
>>
>>
>> = Aragorn =
>>
>> GNU/Linux user #223157 - http://www.linuxcounter.net
>
> Araporn you do not make sense. But then again you are dyslexic
too bad you just disqualified your post at this point...
(not that it was not even more self-disqualifying later on of course,
you are what you are and always been, and Aragorn just nicely described you
and your methods)
> On Friday, June 14, 2013 4:08:12 AM UTC+8, Aragorn wrote:
>>
>>
>> = Aragorn =
>>
>> GNU/Linux user #223157 - http://www.linuxcounter.net
>
> Araporn you do not make sense. But then again you are dyslexic
(not that it was not even more self-disqualifying later on of course,
you are what you are and always been, and Aragorn just nicely described you
and your methods)
RayLopez99
Oct 9, 2013, 2:22:10 AM10/9/13
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On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 1:52:44 PM UTC+8, Loki Harfagr wrote:
> too bad you just disqualified your post at this point...
>
>
>
> (not that it was not even more self-disqualifying later on of course,
>
> you are what you are and always been, and Aragorn just nicely described you
>
> and your methods)
I see you the same way you see me, and indeed I see you in a worse light. You hate an American company because it is successful, and you know you would never make it in America. Stay in your foreign country, and suffer. But don't hate successful Americans and American companies--it only makes you an even bigger loser.
> too bad you just disqualified your post at this point...
>
>
>
> (not that it was not even more self-disqualifying later on of course,
>
> you are what you are and always been, and Aragorn just nicely described you
>
> and your methods)
RL
If you mention MSFT to most people they will probably say outdated technology, getting killed by Apple (AAPL), Google (GOOG) and others. However, we do not care what they think because we have done our research and know that is wrong. Here are a few business lines that show MSFT is alive and very well.
Windows 8, supposedly a failure, has sold over 100 million licenses to date.
50% of S&P 500 companies use Windows Azure, with revenues growing 200%.
Bing's U.S. search share is up from single digits to 17.86% and advertising on Bing is up 32%
Xbox Live has over 48 million users.
Office 360 has 1 million users and is growing.
Internet Explorer is still the leading browser with 56.5% share worldwide.
Double digit revenue growth in SQL server, System Center, Exchange, CRM, Lync and SharePoint.
Strong share gain in Enterprise Cloud.
Windows phone up 900% in Latin America, 400% in India, 300% in China, 300% in Asia Pacific and 700% in Middle East & Africa
atec77
Oct 9, 2013, 3:11:21 AM10/9/13
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On 9/10/2013 4:22 PM, RayLopez99 wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 1:52:44 PM UTC+8, Loki Harfagr wrote:
>> too bad you just disqualified your post at this point...
>>
>>
>>
>> (not that it was not even more self-disqualifying later on of course,
>>
>> you are what you are and always been, and Aragorn just nicely described you
>>
>> and your methods)
>
> I see you the same way you see me, and indeed I see you in a worse light.
no one cares
> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 1:52:44 PM UTC+8, Loki Harfagr wrote:
>> too bad you just disqualified your post at this point...
>>
>>
>>
>> (not that it was not even more self-disqualifying later on of course,
>>
>> you are what you are and always been, and Aragorn just nicely described you
>>
>> and your methods)
>
> I see you the same way you see me, and indeed I see you in a worse light.
You hate an American company because it is successful, and you know
you would never make it in America.
Stay in your foreign country, and suffer. But don't hate successful
Americans and American companies--it only makes you an even bigger loser.
>
> RL
plonk
>
>
RayLopez99
Oct 9, 2013, 11:27:51 AM10/9/13
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On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 3:11:21 PM UTC+8, atec77 wrote:
>
> plonk
>
> >
>
> >
You are a dumb foreigner who does not know how to spell. English is your second language, and it's clear you have no money, nor the courage to pirate software, hence your love of Linux.
<PLONK>
RL
>
> plonk
>
> >
>
> >
You are a dumb foreigner who does not know how to spell. English is your second language, and it's clear you have no money, nor the courage to pirate software, hence your love of Linux.
<PLONK>
RL
Jeffrey Needle
Nov 1, 2013, 8:58:17 AM11/1/13
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So far, no complaints. Works really well.
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