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Wally J
Dec 31, 2023, 11:10:55 PM12/31/23
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Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote
> Note that Google Groups will be shutting down its newsgroup connection in
> February 2024: https://duckduckgo.com/q=google+groups+newsgroups+2024+february
Hi Ant,
Rest assured, folks like Andy Burns and I am well aware of this issue.
<https://i.postimg.cc/tgQHDyjK/dejagoogle01.jpg> Canonical announcement
Sadly, I may be one of the reasons Google made that decision, or, well, at
least I tried (rather valiantly) to get them to _fix_ their archives.
*Please complain to Google about their spamming of Usenet*
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/xxniDVj3ArI>
Most people who only care about themselves don't seem to comprehend the
social significance of losing one of the only good archives there were for
people who are not native to Usenet (and hence who only have a browser).
On any platform, those people could find almost anything on Usenet said
decades ago, and they could read the tribal knowledge we've added over the
years, some of which, e.g., from Paul or Mayayana or Herbert Kleebauer, and
others, is extremely valuable - and which will soon be harder to find).
Even people who know how to use a newsserver and newsreader would benefit
from searching before posting - so they start where others left the can.
Heroics were performed from the likes of Marco Moock & Grant Taylor (& me),
but to no avail - Google was causing tons of spam rendering dejagoogle
nearly useless as a direct result of spam being 99% of some newsgroups.
<http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android> Spam is 99.5%
BTW, I had the pleasure of waiting for Mountainview to pick up the phone.
<https://i.postimg.cc/d388rqkj/google02.jpg> Google doesn't pick up
I could have driven to Mountainview & back a half dozen times in that time.
<https://i.postimg.cc/d388rqkj/google02.jpg> +1 (650) 253-0000
On the peering newsgroup, we had been working this issue hard for a few
weeks prior to Google making the determination to drop the auto archives.
<https://i.postimg.cc/tgQHDyjK/dejagoogle01.jpg>
These are what appear to be google's excuse for killing searches.
<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>
To catch up on the details, we had long been discussing it over here:
*Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content*
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/_w1mbwzgzs0>
Which is a followup to this original request for who is peering this spam:
*Who is peering all these spams ostensibly from Google Groups?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw>
I will add the canonical Windows newsgroup so that others can find
this information in the permanent archives - at least for a while.
--
These are somewhat similar alternatives, but they're not the same.
<http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
<https://alt.comp.microsoft.windows.narkive.com>
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
> Note that Google Groups will be shutting down its newsgroup connection in
> February 2024: https://duckduckgo.com/q=google+groups+newsgroups+2024+february
Hi Ant,
Rest assured, folks like Andy Burns and I am well aware of this issue.
<https://i.postimg.cc/tgQHDyjK/dejagoogle01.jpg> Canonical announcement
Sadly, I may be one of the reasons Google made that decision, or, well, at
least I tried (rather valiantly) to get them to _fix_ their archives.
*Please complain to Google about their spamming of Usenet*
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/xxniDVj3ArI>
Most people who only care about themselves don't seem to comprehend the
social significance of losing one of the only good archives there were for
people who are not native to Usenet (and hence who only have a browser).
On any platform, those people could find almost anything on Usenet said
decades ago, and they could read the tribal knowledge we've added over the
years, some of which, e.g., from Paul or Mayayana or Herbert Kleebauer, and
others, is extremely valuable - and which will soon be harder to find).
Even people who know how to use a newsserver and newsreader would benefit
from searching before posting - so they start where others left the can.
Heroics were performed from the likes of Marco Moock & Grant Taylor (& me),
but to no avail - Google was causing tons of spam rendering dejagoogle
nearly useless as a direct result of spam being 99% of some newsgroups.
<http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android> Spam is 99.5%
BTW, I had the pleasure of waiting for Mountainview to pick up the phone.
<https://i.postimg.cc/d388rqkj/google02.jpg> Google doesn't pick up
I could have driven to Mountainview & back a half dozen times in that time.
<https://i.postimg.cc/d388rqkj/google02.jpg> +1 (650) 253-0000
On the peering newsgroup, we had been working this issue hard for a few
weeks prior to Google making the determination to drop the auto archives.
<https://i.postimg.cc/tgQHDyjK/dejagoogle01.jpg>
These are what appear to be google's excuse for killing searches.
<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>
To catch up on the details, we had long been discussing it over here:
*Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content*
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/_w1mbwzgzs0>
Which is a followup to this original request for who is peering this spam:
*Who is peering all these spams ostensibly from Google Groups?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw>
I will add the canonical Windows newsgroup so that others can find
this information in the permanent archives - at least for a while.
--
These are somewhat similar alternatives, but they're not the same.
<http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
<https://alt.comp.microsoft.windows.narkive.com>
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
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