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arlen
Oct 23, 2020, 11:45:49 AM10/23/20
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 07:55:26 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
> A suggestion: Move the taskbar from the bottom of the screen to the left
> or right side. Not only does that make better use of screen real estate
> on today's wide-screen monitors, but it also provides room for many more
> shortcuts. I have 26 shortcuts there now (I use small task bar buttons
> and my resolution is 1920 x 1080), and there's room for another 6 or 7.
> It's not crowded nor hard to read.
>
> To me, this is a combination of the task bar and quick launch bar and I
> like it much better than having separate bars.
Regarding helpful hints in:
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject: Search box versus Run box
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 20:35:06 -0400
Message-ID: <fdk1pfpa7cjppj29m...@4ax.com>
For the tutorial:
o Tutorial for setting up a well-organized consistent efficient Windows menu system
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/eWU-jOkFRtU/lkVU8yolBQAJ>
A similar suggestion, particularly for dual screens, is to move the right
screen taskbar to the left (i.e., to the middle of the dueling screens) and
to move the left screen taskbar to the right (i.e., to the middle of the
two screens).
o <left screen> <taskbar> space <taskbar> <right screen>
Yes, I know you can eliminate one taskbar but having two has advantages.
Also, to get more space on your taskbar you can do a ton of stuff
o You can eliminate the search icon
o You can eliminate the notifications icon
o You can make the date/time area custom
etc.
In addition, you can set up your "Send To" menu to populate a menu folder
with all the shortcuts that get put onto your desktop, such that you can
add that folder to your taskbar as a winxp style accordion pull out menu.
Like this:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/j5K0RL7H/taskbarmenu01.jpg>
> A suggestion: Move the taskbar from the bottom of the screen to the left
> or right side. Not only does that make better use of screen real estate
> on today's wide-screen monitors, but it also provides room for many more
> shortcuts. I have 26 shortcuts there now (I use small task bar buttons
> and my resolution is 1920 x 1080), and there's room for another 6 or 7.
> It's not crowded nor hard to read.
>
> To me, this is a combination of the task bar and quick launch bar and I
> like it much better than having separate bars.
Regarding helpful hints in:
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject: Search box versus Run box
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 20:35:06 -0400
Message-ID: <fdk1pfpa7cjppj29m...@4ax.com>
For the tutorial:
o Tutorial for setting up a well-organized consistent efficient Windows menu system
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/eWU-jOkFRtU/lkVU8yolBQAJ>
A similar suggestion, particularly for dual screens, is to move the right
screen taskbar to the left (i.e., to the middle of the dueling screens) and
to move the left screen taskbar to the right (i.e., to the middle of the
two screens).
o <left screen> <taskbar> space <taskbar> <right screen>
Yes, I know you can eliminate one taskbar but having two has advantages.
Also, to get more space on your taskbar you can do a ton of stuff
o You can eliminate the search icon
o You can eliminate the notifications icon
o You can make the date/time area custom
etc.
In addition, you can set up your "Send To" menu to populate a menu folder
with all the shortcuts that get put onto your desktop, such that you can
add that folder to your taskbar as a winxp style accordion pull out menu.
Like this:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/j5K0RL7H/taskbarmenu01.jpg>
Arlen Holder
Oct 24, 2020, 9:32:16 PM10/24/20
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Here is an example of the types of things you may need to do )given the
quirks of some software) for an efficient and clean menu system.
Solved: <https://i.postimg.cc/zv5SSTwn/psp01.jpg>
(all three/four technical questions, pending persistence after reboot)
Based on information posted today in alt.comp.freeware...
1. The latest known-good version of PSP is, most likely, version 5.01
<http://www.oldversion.com/windows/download/paint-shop-pro-5-01>
Name: 5.01_psp501.exe
Size: 18241961 bytes (17 MiB)
SHA256: 7D3ED18F0A6CF25C8F09F5241CA73A6E40599569ABEBFA3F1DBCCED614B058EB
Name: psp.exe
Size: 3632128 bytes (3547 KiB)
SHA256: 42CAB30E7F657C8B8C686F7305CE5C61D111992C04CCA3BED98DDB14BD7DCBC8
2. I disabled the PSP errant Recycle Bin context menu
Using Nirsoft "Shell Menu View" freeware
[HKCR\Folder\shell\Browse with Paint Shop Pro\command]
3. I disabled the PSP errant "New" menu with Nirsoft "Shell Menu New"
[HKCR\.psp\ShellNew]
4. I created a new custom context menu for editing "psp" files using
Default Programs Editor <http://defaultprogramseditor.com/>
In summary, psp version 5.01 is apparently successfully installed:
a. INSTALLER === x:\app\editor\pic\psp\{5.01_psp501.exe,syslog.log}
b. INSTALLED === c:\app\editor\pic\psp\psp.exe
c. SHORTCUT === c:\menu\editor\pic\psp\psp.lnk
d. MENU === Taskbar > menu > editor > pic > psp
e. APPPATH === [HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths]
f. COMMAND === Win+R > psp
<https://i.postimg.cc/zv5SSTwn/psp01.jpg>
--
The high expense of freeware is learning how to deal with its quirks.
quirks of some software) for an efficient and clean menu system.
Solved: <https://i.postimg.cc/zv5SSTwn/psp01.jpg>
(all three/four technical questions, pending persistence after reboot)
Based on information posted today in alt.comp.freeware...
1. The latest known-good version of PSP is, most likely, version 5.01
<http://www.oldversion.com/windows/download/paint-shop-pro-5-01>
Name: 5.01_psp501.exe
Size: 18241961 bytes (17 MiB)
SHA256: 7D3ED18F0A6CF25C8F09F5241CA73A6E40599569ABEBFA3F1DBCCED614B058EB
Name: psp.exe
Size: 3632128 bytes (3547 KiB)
SHA256: 42CAB30E7F657C8B8C686F7305CE5C61D111992C04CCA3BED98DDB14BD7DCBC8
2. I disabled the PSP errant Recycle Bin context menu
Using Nirsoft "Shell Menu View" freeware
[HKCR\Folder\shell\Browse with Paint Shop Pro\command]
3. I disabled the PSP errant "New" menu with Nirsoft "Shell Menu New"
[HKCR\.psp\ShellNew]
4. I created a new custom context menu for editing "psp" files using
Default Programs Editor <http://defaultprogramseditor.com/>
In summary, psp version 5.01 is apparently successfully installed:
a. INSTALLER === x:\app\editor\pic\psp\{5.01_psp501.exe,syslog.log}
b. INSTALLED === c:\app\editor\pic\psp\psp.exe
c. SHORTCUT === c:\menu\editor\pic\psp\psp.lnk
d. MENU === Taskbar > menu > editor > pic > psp
e. APPPATH === [HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths]
f. COMMAND === Win+R > psp
<https://i.postimg.cc/zv5SSTwn/psp01.jpg>
--
The high expense of freeware is learning how to deal with its quirks.
Arlen Holder
Oct 25, 2020, 10:41:08 AM10/25/20
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PICTORIAL SUMMARY OF THE SOLUTION SO THAT ALL ALWAYS BENEFIT:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/zv5SSTwn/psp01.jpg>
o <https://i.postimg.cc/xC8Cmg9h/psp02.jpg>
o <https://i.postimg.cc/8kqR1fHN/psp03.jpg>
1. The last known good version of JascSoftware Paint Shop Pro
"appears" to be (based on alt.comp.freeware) version 5.01
<https://i.postimg.cc/zv5SSTwn/psp01.jpg>
2. One problem with this version is it adds unwanted menus:
<https://i.postimg.cc/xC8Cmg9h/psp02.jpg>
3. The solution is to use NirSoft utilities to disable those menus:
<https://i.postimg.cc/8kqR1fHN/psp03.jpg>
Please see the permanently archived thread for specific details:
o What is the latest known good version of JascSoftware PaintShopPro?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.photo.digital/tyAq2O15a4E>
--
There is almost always a solution for all issues using existing freeware.
o <https://i.postimg.cc/zv5SSTwn/psp01.jpg>
o <https://i.postimg.cc/xC8Cmg9h/psp02.jpg>
o <https://i.postimg.cc/8kqR1fHN/psp03.jpg>
1. The last known good version of JascSoftware Paint Shop Pro
"appears" to be (based on alt.comp.freeware) version 5.01
<https://i.postimg.cc/zv5SSTwn/psp01.jpg>
2. One problem with this version is it adds unwanted menus:
<https://i.postimg.cc/xC8Cmg9h/psp02.jpg>
3. The solution is to use NirSoft utilities to disable those menus:
<https://i.postimg.cc/8kqR1fHN/psp03.jpg>
Please see the permanently archived thread for specific details:
o What is the latest known good version of JascSoftware PaintShopPro?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.photo.digital/tyAq2O15a4E>
--
There is almost always a solution for all issues using existing freeware.
Arlen Holder
Oct 26, 2020, 1:52:43 PM10/26/20
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UPDATE (Tutorial to set up any program using well-organized menus):
o <https://i.postimg.cc/L8w5Cxmr/memtest01.jpg>
INSTALLERS: x:\archive\hardware\ram\hcimemtest\MemTest.zip
INSTALLLED: c:\app\hardware\ram\hcimemtest\memtest.exe
MENULOCALE: c:\menu\hardware\ram\memtest.lnk
TASKBARMENU: menu > hardware > ram > memtest.lnk
o *How to Test RAM: Making Sure Bad Memory Isn't Crashing Your PC*
<https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/how-to-test-ram>
"One option preferred by us at Tom's Hardware is HCI Design's MemTest.
The good thing about this is you don't have to any pre-booting
and there are no directions. You just run it."
o Downloading MemTest (free)
<https://hcidesign.com/memtest/download.html>
<https://hcidesign.com/memtest/MemTest.zip>
[X:\archive\hardware\ram\hcimemtest\MemTest.zip]
Name: MemTest.zip
Size: 17671 bytes (17 KiB)
SHA256: 08960F448F4514E7C2D388420560D7D03F5F0A54EC8F9663D66C887B8E4679E6
o Unzip & move MemTest c:\app\hardware\ram\hcimemtest\
c:\app\hardware\ram\hcimemtest\memtest.exe
Name: memtest.exe
Size: 40960 bytes (40 KiB)
SHA256: 5E2D1B0E56095D4D219F3A606E46CE5DE3220FDF3CF55A6E405D3946F25792A6
o Create a link & SendTo populate your Taskbar accordion cascade menu tree:
c:\menu\hardware\ram\memtest.lnk
TARGET: C:\app\hardware\ram\hcimemtest\memtest.exe
STARTIN: C:\app\hardware\ram\hcimemtest
o Run the program as many times as needed to simultaneously test RAM:
Taskbar > menu > hardware > ram > memtest.lnk
Enter megabytes of RAM to test === All unused RAM
[Start Testing]
Could not allocate 4095 MB
Windows limits the amount of contiguous RAM MemTest can allocate
to between 2 and 3.5GB. To test all your RAM, run more than one copy
of MemTest simultaneously and set each copy to test a portion of
available RAM. Running more than one copy of MemTest does not
lower the quality of the test (and can even improve it if you have
multiple cores or CPUs).
Enter megabytes of RAM to test === 2
[Start Testing]
(instance 1)
o Run Taskbar > menu > hardware > ram > memtest.lnk
Enter megabytes of RAM to test === 2
[Start Testing]
(instance 2)
Note that every installation goes 'where it belongs' (which you define):
o <https://i.postimg.cc/L8w5Cxmr/memtest01.jpg>
--
It's a shame most people don't realize how easy it is to maintain menus.
(Microsoft should have hired me decades ago to solve their menu issues.)
o <https://i.postimg.cc/L8w5Cxmr/memtest01.jpg>
INSTALLERS: x:\archive\hardware\ram\hcimemtest\MemTest.zip
INSTALLLED: c:\app\hardware\ram\hcimemtest\memtest.exe
MENULOCALE: c:\menu\hardware\ram\memtest.lnk
TASKBARMENU: menu > hardware > ram > memtest.lnk
o *How to Test RAM: Making Sure Bad Memory Isn't Crashing Your PC*
<https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/how-to-test-ram>
"One option preferred by us at Tom's Hardware is HCI Design's MemTest.
The good thing about this is you don't have to any pre-booting
and there are no directions. You just run it."
o Downloading MemTest (free)
<https://hcidesign.com/memtest/download.html>
<https://hcidesign.com/memtest/MemTest.zip>
[X:\archive\hardware\ram\hcimemtest\MemTest.zip]
Name: MemTest.zip
Size: 17671 bytes (17 KiB)
SHA256: 08960F448F4514E7C2D388420560D7D03F5F0A54EC8F9663D66C887B8E4679E6
o Unzip & move MemTest c:\app\hardware\ram\hcimemtest\
c:\app\hardware\ram\hcimemtest\memtest.exe
Name: memtest.exe
Size: 40960 bytes (40 KiB)
SHA256: 5E2D1B0E56095D4D219F3A606E46CE5DE3220FDF3CF55A6E405D3946F25792A6
o Create a link & SendTo populate your Taskbar accordion cascade menu tree:
c:\menu\hardware\ram\memtest.lnk
TARGET: C:\app\hardware\ram\hcimemtest\memtest.exe
STARTIN: C:\app\hardware\ram\hcimemtest
o Run the program as many times as needed to simultaneously test RAM:
Taskbar > menu > hardware > ram > memtest.lnk
Enter megabytes of RAM to test === All unused RAM
[Start Testing]
Could not allocate 4095 MB
Windows limits the amount of contiguous RAM MemTest can allocate
to between 2 and 3.5GB. To test all your RAM, run more than one copy
of MemTest simultaneously and set each copy to test a portion of
available RAM. Running more than one copy of MemTest does not
lower the quality of the test (and can even improve it if you have
multiple cores or CPUs).
Enter megabytes of RAM to test === 2
[Start Testing]
(instance 1)
o Run Taskbar > menu > hardware > ram > memtest.lnk
Enter megabytes of RAM to test === 2
[Start Testing]
(instance 2)
Note that every installation goes 'where it belongs' (which you define):
o <https://i.postimg.cc/L8w5Cxmr/memtest01.jpg>
--
It's a shame most people don't realize how easy it is to maintain menus.
(Microsoft should have hired me decades ago to solve their menu issues.)
Arlen Holder
Oct 31, 2020, 2:46:28 PM10/31/20
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Here's another trivially simple setup example created today.
o Thinking ahead makes organization & backup archival literally trivial
On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 13:59:44 +0100, Sjouke Burry wrote:
> I have been using DoubleKiller.exe for ages.
> From:> http://www.bigbangenterprises.de/en/doublekiller
Hi Sjouke Burry,
Thank you for being purposefully helpful in providing alternative freeware
solutions to the stated problem of finding good duplicate cleaner freeware.
Here's my ad hoc log file of the installation process, so that others can
always benefit from your advice, where links are provided to make it easy.
DoubleKiller version 1.6.2.82 for finding/removing duplicate files.
0. Set up a place for permanent archival of the DoubleKiller installation:
<http://www.bigbangenterprises.de/en/doublekiller/>
x:\software\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller\doublekiller.zip
c:\app\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller\doublekiller.exe
c:\menu\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller.lnk
Taskbar > menu > cleaner > duplicate > doublekiller
<https://i.postimg.cc/xjJvchg7/duplicate01.jpg>
1. Download DoubleKiller 1.6.2.82 2007-07-07 to your permanent archive:
<http://www.bigbangenterprises.de/en/doublekiller/>
<http://www.bigbangenterprises.de/en/doublekiller/download.htm>
<http://www.bigbangenterprises.de/downloads/doublekiller.zip>
Save to x:\software\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller\doublekiller.zip
Name: doublekiller.zip
Size: 400720 bytes (391 KiB)
SHA256: DD40EFD213F904C418024AE06AB9974DE188EDBE236F4AEF0CDA0F692D4F5AC5
Extracts to:
Name: DoubleKiller.exe
Size: 812544 bytes (793 KiB)
SHA256: 3034A3ECF90594EC2E58A9C882F17F12051551FA6DC85CB0B65B0875444ED15F
2. Move to the app hierarchy:
move doublekiller\ c:\app\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller\
3. Create a shortcut & populate the Windows taskbar pulleout menu:
c:\menu\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller.lnk
TARGET: c:\app\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller\doublekiller.exe
STARTIN: c:\app\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller
4. Start doublekiller from the taskbar accordion pullout cascade menu:
Taskbar > menu > cleaner > duplicate > doublekiller
On every tab is a big [Run] button; press it; select a folder.
Press [Run] again.
<https://i.postimg.cc/xjJvchg7/duplicate01.jpg>
--
The main problem people have with menus is they don't think ahead.
o Thinking ahead makes organization & backup archival literally trivial
On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 13:59:44 +0100, Sjouke Burry wrote:
> I have been using DoubleKiller.exe for ages.
> From:> http://www.bigbangenterprises.de/en/doublekiller
Hi Sjouke Burry,
Thank you for being purposefully helpful in providing alternative freeware
solutions to the stated problem of finding good duplicate cleaner freeware.
Here's my ad hoc log file of the installation process, so that others can
always benefit from your advice, where links are provided to make it easy.
DoubleKiller version 1.6.2.82 for finding/removing duplicate files.
0. Set up a place for permanent archival of the DoubleKiller installation:
<http://www.bigbangenterprises.de/en/doublekiller/>
x:\software\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller\doublekiller.zip
c:\app\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller\doublekiller.exe
c:\menu\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller.lnk
Taskbar > menu > cleaner > duplicate > doublekiller
<https://i.postimg.cc/xjJvchg7/duplicate01.jpg>
1. Download DoubleKiller 1.6.2.82 2007-07-07 to your permanent archive:
<http://www.bigbangenterprises.de/en/doublekiller/>
<http://www.bigbangenterprises.de/en/doublekiller/download.htm>
<http://www.bigbangenterprises.de/downloads/doublekiller.zip>
Save to x:\software\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller\doublekiller.zip
Name: doublekiller.zip
Size: 400720 bytes (391 KiB)
SHA256: DD40EFD213F904C418024AE06AB9974DE188EDBE236F4AEF0CDA0F692D4F5AC5
Extracts to:
Name: DoubleKiller.exe
Size: 812544 bytes (793 KiB)
SHA256: 3034A3ECF90594EC2E58A9C882F17F12051551FA6DC85CB0B65B0875444ED15F
2. Move to the app hierarchy:
move doublekiller\ c:\app\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller\
3. Create a shortcut & populate the Windows taskbar pulleout menu:
c:\menu\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller.lnk
TARGET: c:\app\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller\doublekiller.exe
STARTIN: c:\app\cleaner\duplicate\doublekiller
4. Start doublekiller from the taskbar accordion pullout cascade menu:
Taskbar > menu > cleaner > duplicate > doublekiller
On every tab is a big [Run] button; press it; select a folder.
Press [Run] again.
<https://i.postimg.cc/xjJvchg7/duplicate01.jpg>
--
The main problem people have with menus is they don't think ahead.
Arlen Holder
Oct 31, 2020, 5:53:41 PM10/31/20
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UPDATE:
I recently installed two duplicate cleaners and as I am wont to do, I added
them to where they belong in the default taskbar accordion cascade menu:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/QxzKgvdr/duplicate02.jpg>
I always knew the default Windows taskbar accordion cascade menu pullout
shows the filespec to the shortcut as shown below in this screenshot:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/cCwdrZsQ/taskbarmenu03.jpg>
But I only noticed today that if the "Comment" field is filled in, that it
is what shows up in the Windows default native Taskbar pullout menu tree:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/9FHWs4p1/taskbarmenu04.jpg>
In summary, organizing your Windows system is trivial if you think ahead
o <https://i.postimg.cc/xjJvchg7/duplicate01.jpg>
Where using the shortcut comment field is yet another way to help organize
your Windows native default Taskbar start menu pullout tree:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/j5K0RL7H/taskbarmenu01.jpg>
o <https://i.postimg.cc/qvJDMQcq/taskbarmenu02.jpg>
See also:
o Where can we find the last known good freeware version of Digital Volcano Duplicate Cleaner version 2.1.0?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/AYUk-KWMV7Y>
--
I recently installed two duplicate cleaners and as I am wont to do, I added
them to where they belong in the default taskbar accordion cascade menu:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/QxzKgvdr/duplicate02.jpg>
I always knew the default Windows taskbar accordion cascade menu pullout
shows the filespec to the shortcut as shown below in this screenshot:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/cCwdrZsQ/taskbarmenu03.jpg>
But I only noticed today that if the "Comment" field is filled in, that it
is what shows up in the Windows default native Taskbar pullout menu tree:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/9FHWs4p1/taskbarmenu04.jpg>
In summary, organizing your Windows system is trivial if you think ahead
o <https://i.postimg.cc/xjJvchg7/duplicate01.jpg>
Where using the shortcut comment field is yet another way to help organize
your Windows native default Taskbar start menu pullout tree:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/j5K0RL7H/taskbarmenu01.jpg>
o <https://i.postimg.cc/qvJDMQcq/taskbarmenu02.jpg>
See also:
o Where can we find the last known good freeware version of Digital Volcano Duplicate Cleaner version 2.1.0?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/AYUk-KWMV7Y>
--
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