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Andre

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Feb 5, 2012, 5:58:49 AM2/5/12
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Hi,

Trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 ( up-to-date!! ) to Fedora 16.
Both dvd install and Netinstall gives:
failed to fully start deamon, no such file or directory and I only can
do a full install which I don't wan because I have databases running,
apache running DNS, DHCP, sendmail.. And upgrade will certainly give
enough troubles with apache that I have compiled myself.
Any Ideas??
Many thanks.
André

Stefan Patric

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Feb 5, 2012, 6:34:57 PM2/5/12
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Such an upgrade--skipping a version, i.e. Fedora 15--is not recommended.
EVER! Upgrade from 14 to 15, then 15 to 16 by using PreUpgrade. It's
the best way. This link should get you started:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading


Stef

Andre

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Feb 7, 2012, 3:55:28 AM2/7/12
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I am borred by fedora, two release a year and now you can't upgrade if
you skip one??
I'll steay with Fedora 14 and when realy needed, I switch to something
else, Debian or Suze ??
Even WindOws ( which I don't like ) keep XP running since .. years why
con't Linux have something a little bit more stable ??
Many thanks for your answer.
André

Aragorn

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Feb 7, 2012, 4:12:27 AM2/7/12
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On Tuesday 07 February 2012 09:55, Andre conveyed the following to
alt.comp.linux...

> Le 06/02/2012 00:34, Stefan Patric a écrit :
>
>> On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:58:49 +0100, Andre wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 ( up-to-date!! ) to Fedora 16. Both
>>> dvd install and Netinstall gives: failed to fully start deamon, no
>>> such file or directory and I only can do a full install which I
>>> don't wan because I have databases running, apache running DNS,
>>> DHCP, sendmail.. And upgrade will certainly give enough troubles
>>> with apache that I have compiled myself. Any Ideas??
>>
>> Such an upgrade--skipping a version, i.e. Fedora 15--is not
>> recommended. EVER! Upgrade from 14 to 15, then 15 to 16 by using
>> PreUpgrade. It's the best way. This link should get you started:
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading
>>
> I am borred by fedora, two release a year and now you can't upgrade if
> you skip one??
> I'll steay with Fedora 14 and when realy needed, I switch to something
> else, Debian or Suze ??
> Even WindOws ( which I don't like ) keep XP running since .. years why
> con't Linux have something a little bit more stable ??

The words "Fedora" and "stable" don't mix. If you want something
stable, then stay away from Fedora. Fedora is the bleeding edge
development distribution that will ultimately lead to the new official
RedHat (and CentOS) releases.

RedHat (and CentOS) offer you the same feel as Fedora - if that is what
you like - but they are far more stable. Of course, that also means
that you won't have "the latest and greatest" software.

If you want something more stable and yet more recent, try openSUSE, or
even Slackware. (Mind you, I'm only listing two. There are many more
good distributions out there.)

--
= Aragorn =
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

Stefan Patric

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Feb 7, 2012, 2:26:19 PM2/7/12
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On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:55:28 +0100, Andre wrote:

> Le 06/02/2012 00:34, Stefan Patric a écrit :
>> On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:58:49 +0100, Andre wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 ( up-to-date!! ) to Fedora 16. Both
>>> dvd install and Netinstall gives: failed to fully start deamon, no
>>> such file or directory and I only can do a full install which I don't
>>> wan because I have databases running, apache running DNS, DHCP,
>>> sendmail.. And upgrade will certainly give enough troubles with
>>> apache that I have compiled myself. Any Ideas??
>>> Many thanks.
>>
>> Such an upgrade--skipping a version, i.e. Fedora 15--is not
>> recommended. EVER! Upgrade from 14 to 15, then 15 to 16 by using
>> PreUpgrade. It's the best way. This link should get you started:
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading
>>
>>
>> Stef
>
> I am borred by fedora, two release a year and now you can't upgrade if
> you skip one??

Fedora is a different Linux. Unlike other distros, it is a cutting edge
test bed for the Red Hat Enterprise Linux OS, hence the twice a year
releases to try to stay current with technology. And as such, the
differences are great enough that compatibility is a problem between
releases, requiring special care when upgrading. But you don't HAVE to
upgrade.

I'm still using Fedora 12. Fedora is now at 16. 12 is over a year past
End of Life, and is no longer supported, that is, no updates for
anything. But it still works just fine. I only upgrade to a newer
version when the old version starts having problems. 12 has yet to have
any.

> I'll steay with Fedora 14 and when realy needed, I switch to something
> else, Debian or Suze ??

If you're looking for longevity, stability, and security, but still want
something Fedora-ish in look and operation, try CentOS 6 or Scientific
Linux 6. They are built from RHEL 6 code, the latest release, which is
based off of Fedoras 12 & 13 code. Support life is about 7 years.

As to other distros: Stability is Debian's motto. Version support life
is 5 years. Or you might try a "rolling release" like PCLinuxOS, which
is upgraded as you update it. It is never out of date or unsupported.

> Even WindOws ( which I don't like ) keep XP running since .. years why
> con't Linux have something a little bit more stable ?? Many thanks for
> your answer.

Linux does have long support life distros as mentioned.

Stef
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