Which distributions of Linx still support lpr/lprng printing by default?
terryc
support for lpr/lprng printing. The result is that firefox/iceweael, open
office, etc can no longer print directly to the lpr/lprng printing system.
There is a bodgy entry you can make to gtkrc that allows you to enter a
lpr command, but this totally ignores all the configuration(papersize,
margins, etc) in the lpr/lprng printing system.
So, I need to dump Debian and goes to another distro that still supports
lpr/lprng by default.
Is there any?
<if I wanted to play with drivers, I run frigging microsoft windows>
Burkhard Ott
> I have just found out that the arseholes behind debian decided to drop
> support for lpr/lprng printing. The result is that firefox/iceweael,
> open office, etc can no longer print directly to the lpr/lprng printing
> system.
apt-cache search lprng
> So, I need to dump Debian and goes to another distro that still supports
> lpr/lprng by default.
Yes, do that.
> Is there any?
Brain 1.0, awesome distro you don't need patches, updates etc.
cheers
terryc
> Am Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:22:03 +0000 schrieb terryc:
>
>> I have just found out that the arseholes behind debian decided to drop
>> support for lpr/lprng printing. The result is that firefox/iceweael,
>> open office, etc can no longer print directly to the lpr/lprng printing
>> system.
>
> apt-cache search lprng
That is as useful as the rest of your post your moronic idiot. The
package is there, I have it installed but the application no longer
interact with the intelligence of the whole lpr/lprng system, so you are
left to enter a complicated string each time you want to print something.
> Brain 1.0, awesome distro you don't need patches, updates etc.
Yep, typical egos that now infest linux and are slavishly sucking up to
become wanna bes Microsoft bum boys.
Actually, the real solution is to dump any modern "linux" application. If
it doesn't have roots in unix, then it is guaranteed to be crud or close
to.
atec 7 7
old style as or maybe plan 9
terryc
>> Actually, the real solution is to dump any modern "linux" application.
>> If it doesn't have roots in unix, then it is guaranteed to be crud or
>> close to.
> Perhaps you might look at minix ?
> old style as or maybe plan 9
Naah, there are plenty of unix applications that work well. It is just a
question of the platform to run them.
The generic problem infesting Linux is this myopic race to be just like
windows and to this end they are just loading the OS with so many
background processes, that it is just going to become as holey and
insecure as windows.
14 years of Linux and it still requires mountains of administration and
constantly demands bigger and more powerful hardware.
philo
Hey...cool
I've fooled with Minix and Plan 9
Though Minix was really designed more as a "classroom" in which to teach
the fundamentals of operating systems...I think that Plan 9 is really
great for serious "techies" .
To the OP...I think you'd enjoy Plan 9
but to get right to the heart of your question...
I'd at least look into Gentoo or perhaps Slackware
You're going to have a lot more control with what's going on in your system
My 2 cents worth anyway
philo
> Am Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:22:03 +0000 schrieb terryc:
>
>> I have just found out that the arseholes behind debian decided to drop
>> support for lpr/lprng printing. The result is that firefox/iceweael,
>> open office, etc can no longer print directly to the lpr/lprng printing
>> system.
>
<snip>
> Brain 1.0, awesome distro you don't need patches, updates etc.
>
here is the link to Brain 1
looks scary
Burkhard Ott
> Burkhard Ott wrote:
>> Am Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:22:03 +0000 schrieb terryc:
>>
>>> I have just found out that the arseholes behind debian decided to drop
>>> support for lpr/lprng printing. The result is that firefox/iceweael,
>>> open office, etc can no longer print directly to the lpr/lprng
>>> printing system.
>>
>>
> <snip>
>
>
> looks scary
>
> http://www.last.fm/user/BrAiN-1
I just thought more about http://brain.yubb.de/ but it's in german
language available olnly
cheers
Van Chocstraw
Try FreeBSD or Opensolaris.
terryc
> To the OP...I think you'd enjoy Plan 9
What did you do with it?
I should call you a bastard because the last thing I need is another
excuse not to cull all those old systems (~20) I still have in the garage
and when I saw "distributed", aaaaaargh.
>
> but to get right to the heart of your question...
>
> I'd at least look into Gentoo or perhaps Slackware
Ok, I at least had the latest slack on torrent (blown away
unfortunately). Will need to see if I burnt an iso copy.
>
> You're going to have a lot more control with what's going on in your
> system
The biggest problem is that default Linux installs just scream for bigger
and more expensive hardware. If you want to do anything different, then
you are basically left on your own. I'm not a fan of slavishly copying
everything microsoft does/did to compete with it.
terryc
> Try FreeBSD or Opensolaris.
Tried Opensolaris yesterday, but default is gnome on the livecd, ack!
(grind up). Need to work out how to just get a basic terminal system and
add a lighter WM like icewm.
will keep BSd in mind.
thanks
philo
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:27:36 -0600, philo wrote:
>
>> atec 7 7 wrote:
>>> terryc wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:51:36 +0000, Burkhard Ott wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:22:03 +0000 schrieb terryc:
>>>>>
<snipped for brevity>
>>
>> Hey...cool
>>
>> I've fooled with Minix and Plan 9
>>
>> To the OP...I think you'd enjoy Plan 9
>
> What did you do with it?
> I should call you a bastard because the last thing I need is another
> excuse not to cull all those old systems (~20) I still have in the garage
> and when I saw "distributed", aaaaaargh.
>
LOL
I have a whole hell of a lot of obsolete machines I fool with from time
to time...even a Kaypro.
As to Minux I did not do much more than simply install it and have a look...
but with Plan 9 I got as far as putting it on-line and fooling with Abaco
>
>
>
>> but to get right to the heart of your question...
>>
>> I'd at least look into Gentoo or perhaps Slackware
>
> Ok, I at least had the latest slack on torrent (blown away
> unfortunately). Will need to see if I burnt an iso copy.
>> You're going to have a lot more control with what's going on in your
>> system
>
> The biggest problem is that default Linux installs just scream for bigger
> and more expensive hardware. If you want to do anything different, then
> you are basically left on your own. I'm not a fan of slavishly copying
> everything microsoft does/did to compete with it.
>
>
Well I refused for a long time to jump on the upgrade bandwagon...
but I had so many spare parts in my junk box
I was able to build a few relatively high end machines.
Yes, Linux is getting a bit more bloated than it used to be...
but is lagging Microsoft considerably in that area.
atec 7 7
is fun.. I still think plan 9 might be suitable
I have an old xeom here running some sata cards without problem ( server)
ford
I like the UNIX design philosophy where each program does only one
thing, and does that one thing exceedingly well. However, the idea is
dead. IMHO, this trend in killing the UNIX design came X11. Modular X
from Xorg is better, but still isn't quite right. The guys over at
MicroXwin have done amazing things, but their code isn't all
opensource... which also isn't very *nix of them. GNOME and KDE and
even XFCE are all examples of leaving UNIX roots because they large
unsightly programs in them, that definitely do more than one thing...
and do nothing well. Firefox suffers the same flaw. Uzbl web browser
is a good step in the right direction for a UNIX style web browser,
but its plugin interface to give things like a menu is somewhat
inefficient. As a programmer, I could do everything myself, but as
often happens, programmers tend to specialize in certain types of
software, this is why we need teams of developers. Someone ought to
gather all of the UNIX loving programmers out there together and get
them to make a truly UNIXed Linux... but that someone would have to
have deep pockets, and massive amounts of patience.