latest msvc & c++11: state?

[feli...@gmail.com]

hey,

does anyone have reliable info on how far the latest c++11 standard has been omplemented in msvc2012 with altest updates?

Also: will VS2008 ever support c++11?

Couldnt find reliable info on these questions, and i am requried to ensure this before officially switching projects to c++11.

[Ian Collins]

Why are you asking here? Shouldn't you be asking your vendor?

If you are required to check something before making a change and you
can't get an answer, don't make the change!

--
Ian Collins

[feli...@gmail.com]

1) very true, i should be nagging microsoft. And believe me, i have! But unless you have some gold-diamond-hyper-super msdn subscriptions, they just wont answer your questions.

2) true, and i wont make the change till i have these infos. But i WANT to switch to cpp11.


there is a feature list on msdn, but it`s outdated and hte last time the vs-compiler team bothered to drop something was in march 2012.

[Geoff]

The place to ask these questions is the Microsoft community forums on the web.
MS has dropped all support for newsgroups and you won't get any "official"
answers from them here.

MSDN documentation lags the compiler products badly, it isn't your daddy's MSDN
anymore. It was a fairly good tool under Visual C++ 6.0 but the current
implementation is confusing and useless.

Will VS2008 support C++11? Not likely. It's been replaced by VS2010 and VS2012.
Microsoft rarely, if ever, retrofits their old products with new features. You
have to upgrade to the latest VS to get the latest tools. You may as well
consider VS2008 to be dead.

As far as C++11 is concerned, Microsoft C++ will always be Microsoft C++ and
will never, AFAIK, be fully compliant with the standard. They adopt features
they deem worthy and ignore the ones they don't. I would not expect VS-anything
to support C++11 until 2017 or so.

[nvangogh]

Let me give you some tips. I only know a little about g++ and clang
compilers. I can tell you for a fact that support for c++ 11 remains
experimental and will remain experimental for the foreseeable future -
for those compilers. Anyone who has tried using clang and regex will
know what I mean.

IMHO, It will take years before there is stable support for c++11 and
that is all there is to it. I doubt that microsoft have the ability to
produce a working, stable compiler so far ahead of the open source projects.

All the C++ 11 books out now are for a large part premature because
there are certainly no gnu systems that have stable c++ 11 compilers.

I am glad that I kept my C++ Primer 4th edition because that remains the
only relevant description of a working implementation of the language.
Half of C++ Primer 5th edition - that purports to teach c++11 cannot be
made to work.

Sure you can experiment with C++11, but that's all you are going to be
able to do for the moment.

Hth

[Bill Gill]

I'm not expert, but I don't expect VS2008 to be updated to support
C++11. It wouldn't do their bottom line any good if you didn't have
to buy the latest version.

Bill

[Barry Schwarz]

On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:41:53 -0600, Bill Gill <bill...@cox.net>
wrote:

Since there is a VS2012, I wouldn't expect VS2008 to be updated
either.

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[qbr...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, February 3, 2013 2:52:41 PM UTC-5, feli...@gmail.com wrote:

> does anyone have reliable info on how far the latest c++11 standard has been omplemented in msvc2012 with altest updates?

> Couldnt find reliable info on these questions, and i am requried to ensure this before officially switching projects to c++11.

You may find this of interest.
http://www.aristeia.com/C++11/C++11FeatureAvailability.htm

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Feb 3, 2:52 pm, felixo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Couldn't find reliable info on these questions,
> and i am required to ensure this before officially
> switching projects to c++11.

What is the hurry? Do you (or your organization) enjoy being in the
BLEEDING Edge?

-RFH