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Kristen

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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Hi, I'd like some help finding the absolutely _cheapest_ complete PC
package out there. Must be new, not used. I don't care what kind of
crap it is - it just needs to get on the net without additions or
problems out of the box and live for a year or so - needs to have a
monitor, modem, etc, and free internet if possible. Intel would be
nice, but not necessary. I'm talking $400 or less. I've found one
with 1 year of net for $419, but no monitor...

Any pointers will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Kristen

--
"The beauty and genius of a work of art may be reconceived though its
first material expression be destroyed. A vanished harmony may yet
again inspire the composer, but when the last individual of a race
of living beings breathes no more, another heaven and earth must pass
before such a one can be again."

-- American naturalist Charles William Beebe, 1906 (http://www.nanfa.org/)

quasi

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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Kristen wrote:

> Hi, I'd like some help finding the absolutely _cheapest_ complete PC
> package out there. Must be new, not used. I don't care what kind of
> crap it is - it just needs to get on the net without additions or
> problems out of the box and live for a year or so - needs to have a
> monitor, modem, etc, and free internet if possible. Intel would be
> nice, but not necessary. I'm talking $400 or less. I've found one
> with 1 year of net for $419, but no monitor...

Yea, when you find it let me know too. No such thing exists.

Steve

Kristen

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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to...@over.the.rainbow.com wrote:

>On the other hand if you boys could get over the "used" thing you
>could come up with a very servicable "net box" in the P133-166 class
>with 32m ram, 56k and a couple gig HD for a hundred bucks or so and a
>monitor as good as you wallet can stand. Certainly a 15" SVGA for
>another $100 or so.

I'm not a "boy." Second, I already have a great used computer I could
give my sister, but her overbearing husband is too proud to let her
take my "charity." Meanwhile, my sister is a virtual prisoner in her
house with no contact with the outside world, and I'm not exactly
rich, you know. He'll only let her have a brand new computer, but he
can't afford one (I know he's planned it that way to prevent her from
having contact with other people, but I'll be damned if I'll let him
do it.) So, that's why I need a new computer and need to make it
absolutely as cheap as possible.

The closest I've gotten so far is an open box special eMachines
multimedia computer for $377 with no monitor, though I have seen a
brand new $110 15" SVGA at another place with free shipping. I guess
that's the closest I'm going to get...

Wish iMacs were cheaper.

Kristen

jmw

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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Your sister is obviously married to a Control Freak, and if he hasn't
started beating her up already, it won't be long before he starts.

Violent action towards a woman goes with being a Control Freak.

Your sister has a much bigger problem than getting a cheap computer.

If she has children she has an even bigger problem.

Don't take my word for it, check it out with your local shelter for
Battered Wives.

"Kristen" <dran...@cannan.net> wrote in message
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jmw

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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>but her overbearing husband


>." Meanwhile, my sister is a virtual prisoner in her
house with no contact with the outside world

This is a supplement to my previous post. the key words you used that I
quote above definitely identify your sister's husband as a Control Freak and
a danget to your syster, not just mentally but physically as well.

Every day we read in the paper about what finally happens to women in
situations like your sister... they get beaten or killed...

Get her out of there!

Paul Tiseo

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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In article <38fb0856...@news.ne.mediaone.net>, drandall1
@cannan.net says...
> I'm not a "boy." Second, I already have a great used computer I could
> give my sister, but her overbearing husband is too proud to let her
> take my "charity." Meanwhile, my sister is a virtual prisoner in her
> house with no contact with the outside world, and I'm not exactly
> rich, you know. He'll only let her have a brand new computer, but he
> can't afford one (I know he's planned it that way to prevent her from
> having contact with other people, but I'll be damned if I'll let him
> do it.) So, that's why I need a new computer and need to make it
> absolutely as cheap as possible.

Not to sound crass or anything, but maybe your sister needs a new
husband, not a cheap computer? I know, it probably is a complex
situation, but if she can't have real solid "outside" friends, will
"virtual" friends be of any help to her? From your simple email, I am
already concerned for her...

I wish I could help on your more immediate concern too. As to cheap
computers for pure Internet only, you will be hardpressed to find a
*reliable* computer under $600. Also, have you considered the stand-
alone net-savvy computers such as the iOpener
(http://www.netpliance.com/iopener/) or WebTV?

____________________________________________________
Paul Tiseo, Intermediate Systems Programmer
Birdsall 3, Mayo Clinic Jacksonville
4500 San Pablo Rd, FL, 32224
tiseo...@mayo.edu -- (904) 953-8254

William Asher

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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Kristen:

Here's a trick that might work. This guy your sis is married to
probably isn't the brightest bulb in the light string so he should be
pretty easy to fool. New cases are cheap, maybe $40 or so. Used
computers can be had for $150 as someone already mentioned. Buy a used
computer, put the used guts in the new case and spring the $15 for a new
keyboard. Unless you took a screwdriver and opened things up and looked
at part numbers, you probably wouldn't know the difference. You can
also get factory-reconditioned monitors that look like they're new but
are quite a bit cheaper (e.g., you used to be able to buy a MAG DJ530AV
for around $130 with shipping, which I thought was a screaming deal for
a pretty nice 15" monitor with speakers).

So, then you'll have a "new" computer for around $300 or so. Of course,
this won't help with free internet access but you could probably get
your sis's account billed to your credit card and he would never figure
that out either. Of course, I've heard that control-freak
battering-type husbands often remove the phones from their houses so
their wives can't call anyone so even if she gets the computer, do you
really think he'll let her keep it?

Best wishes.

-Bill Asher

Kristen wrote:
>
> Hi, I'd like some help finding the absolutely _cheapest_ complete PC
> package out there. Must be new, not used. I don't care what kind of
> crap it is - it just needs to get on the net without additions or
> problems out of the box and live for a year or so - needs to have a
> monitor, modem, etc, and free internet if possible. Intel would be
> nice, but not necessary. I'm talking $400 or less. I've found one
> with 1 year of net for $419, but no monitor...
>

quasi

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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Kristen wrote:

> to...@over.the.rainbow.com wrote:
>
> >On the other hand if you boys could get over the "used" thing you
> >could come up with a very servicable "net box" in the P133-166 class
> >with 32m ram, 56k and a couple gig HD for a hundred bucks or so and a
> >monitor as good as you wallet can stand. Certainly a 15" SVGA for
> >another $100 or so.
>

> I'm not a "boy." Second, I already have a great used computer I could
> give my sister, but her overbearing husband is too proud to let her
> take my "charity." Meanwhile, my sister is a virtual prisoner in her
> house with no contact with the outside world, and I'm not exactly
> rich, you know. He'll only let her have a brand new computer, but he
> can't afford one (I know he's planned it that way to prevent her from
> having contact with other people, but I'll be damned if I'll let him
> do it.) So, that's why I need a new computer and need to make it
> absolutely as cheap as possible.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, this is neither the time nor the place to have opened this
can of worms. Finding a cheap PC is *not* going to solve *any* of this. In
fact, going against HIS plans or wishes is only going to make the situation
worse for your sister. I know people like this, that's why I stay away from
them. Save the money for counseling or a good divorce attorney. Maybe use
the the money to get your sister some self-empowerment couses. Allowing
oneself to be a prisoner in one's own home is not a sign of a healthy
psychology. Sorry to engage in this matter but you posted the message. I
also realise you will take none of this advise and as well you shouldn't since
you don't know anyone here anyway so why should you. But that's part of the
problem also, what is your sister going to gain, it would only give her an
excuse to not leave the house. You ever think that things are the way they
are because she likes them that way? If she gets people to give her free
stuff then why should she leave the house? You're not helping her.

> The closest I've gotten so far is an open box special eMachines
> multimedia computer for $377 with no monitor, though I have seen a
> brand new $110 15" SVGA at another place with free shipping. I guess
> that's the closest I'm going to get...

If this is what you think the answer is then it probably is the best you'll
find.

>
>
> Wish iMacs were cheaper.

Jeez, talk about being controlled. Do you not see the irony here? You
complain about a controlling entity but then pine away about not being able to
be controlled. I just hope you work things out satisfactorily. Good luck.

Steve


Bob Eager

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:08:20, dran...@cannan.net (Kristen) wrote:

> I'm not a "boy." Second, I already have a great used computer I could
> give my sister, but her overbearing husband is too proud to let her
> take my "charity." Meanwhile, my sister is a virtual prisoner in her
> house with no contact with the outside world, and I'm not exactly
> rich, you know. He'll only let her have a brand new computer, but he
> can't afford one (I know he's planned it that way to prevent her from
> having contact with other people, but I'll be damned if I'll let him
> do it.) So, that's why I need a new computer and need to make it
> absolutely as cheap as possible.

The way I got round this (I helped someone in a very similar
situation) was to build a two year old computer into a brand new
box....it worked.

Of course, it depends how technically savvy her husband is....
--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

quasi

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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to...@over.the.rainbow.com wrote:

> Sorry if I offended you, I did get the "boy" part right tho. I just
> wasn't referring to you.
>

Then I guess you were referring to me, which in that case you still were
wrong.

Steve


Kristen

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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quasi <qu...@cusave.com> wrote:

>Whoa, whoa, whoa, this is neither the time nor the place to have opened this
>can of worms. Finding a cheap PC is *not* going to solve *any* of this.

[Some of the below is not necessarily specific to the above response,
just a generalized reply.]

I _didn't_ want to turn this into some off-topic thread about my
sister - really! - just explain why I needed a cheap, new computer so
maybe I'd elicit some more responses...and I did; I'm going to look
into the net appliance thing and/or see about "faking" a new computer.

I thank everyone for the concern, but some people just blew this way
out of proportion. I said she's a "virtual" prisoner, not actual
prisoner. She has her own car and can leave the house, but things in
her life including a new baby conspire against her getting out. The
worst thing her husband has done so far, in the past couple months, is
forbid her to make long distance phone calls any more because she's
not working temporarily, and they can't afford it. But we can call
_her_; it's just too expensive in the long run to do that all the
time, which is why I thought of getting her set up with email. He
also said she _could_ have a computer, just not a used one (redneck
pride,) though he is extremely resistant to the net because he doesn't
want "people putting garbage in her head." Whatever that means... So
yes, he's a control freak and a redneck, but man, he's not a
wife-beater.

See ya,

jmw

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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glad to see someone else agrees with me re danger to sister from Control
Freak..


"Paul Tiseo" <tiseo...@mayo.edu> wrote in message
news:MPG.1364e1921...@mayonews.mayo.edu...


> In article <38fb0856...@news.ne.mediaone.net>, drandall1
> @cannan.net says...

> > I'm not a "boy." Second, I already have a great used computer I could
> > give my sister, but her overbearing husband is too proud to let her
> > take my "charity." Meanwhile, my sister is a virtual prisoner in her
> > house with no contact with the outside world, and I'm not exactly
> > rich, you know. He'll only let her have a brand new computer, but he
> > can't afford one (I know he's planned it that way to prevent her from
> > having contact with other people, but I'll be damned if I'll let him
> > do it.) So, that's why I need a new computer and need to make it
> > absolutely as cheap as possible.
>

jmw

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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> yes, he's a control freak and a redneck, but man, he's not a
> wife-beater

Maybe not yet!

And just how sure are you?

Women that put up with his kind of crap are notorious for making excuses,
hiding injuries, and usually winfd up feeling it is their own fault.

She has my sympathy.

OPEN YOUR EYES!

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jmw

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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he is more likely to shove her head through the screen some day, when he
really gets wound up!

"William Asher" <x_a...@apl.washington.edu> wrote in message
news:38FB201B...@apl.washington.edu...

Kevin Kennedy

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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In England we have a company called Morgans which sell new
computers from bankrupt companies or last year(s) models at low
prices. Do you have something similar where you live?
In article <38faa1fa...@news.ne.mediaone.net>, Kristen
<dran...@cannan.net> writes

>Hi, I'd like some help finding the absolutely _cheapest_ complete PC
>package out there. Must be new, not used. I don't care what kind of
>crap it is - it just needs to get on the net without additions or
>problems out of the box and live for a year or so - needs to have a
>monitor, modem, etc, and free internet if possible. Intel would be
>nice, but not necessary. I'm talking $400 or less. I've found one
>with 1 year of net for $419, but no monitor...
>
>Any pointers will be greatly appreciated!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Kristen
>
>--
>"The beauty and genius of a work of art may be reconceived though its
>first material expression be destroyed. A vanished harmony may yet
>again inspire the composer, but when the last individual of a race
>of living beings breathes no more, another heaven and earth must pass
>before such a one can be again."
>
>-- American naturalist Charles William Beebe, 1906 (http://www.nanfa.org/)

--
Kevin Kennedy

soappy

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May 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/3/00
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>
>Maybe not yet!
>
>And just how sure are you?
>
>Women that put up with his kind of crap are notorious for
making excuses,
>hiding injuries, and usually winfd up feeling it is their own
fault.
>
>She has my sympathy.
>
>OPEN YOUR EYES!
>
Yes.. and I am sure you personally know a few these people. or
perhaps you're getting paranoid watching too much 20/20.


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