XGA w/ OS/2 and Linux on laptop
davisf...@union.edu
I'm looking for a new laptop. It looks like I'm going back to Sager
(having somehow blown away my old trusty).
I see some video is designated as XGA.
Does this raise any problems for OS/2 or for Linux?
I note also that a couple run ATI Rage Pro 3D AGP. I have the impression
this isn't good for OS/2 and for Linux; right or wrong?
Thanks loads. I'm probably going to order tomorrow. I'm going to research
ThinkPads a bit tonight but Sager has worked well for me, and the prices
are heavenly. Just worried about compatibility issues.
I really appreciate any guidance anyone can offer. If you have other
laptop suggestions, I'm all eyes.
F.
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Felmon John Davis
dav...@union.edu | dav...@capital.net
Union College / Schenectady, NY
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Felmon John Davis
dav...@union.edu | dav...@capital.net
Union College / Schenectady, NY
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Csaba Raduly
>
> Greetings!
>
> I'm looking for a new laptop. It looks like I'm going back to Sager
> (having somehow blown away my old trusty).
>
> I see some video is designated as XGA.
>
> Does this raise any problems for OS/2 or for Linux?
>
> I note also that a couple run ATI Rage Pro 3D AGP. I have the impression
> this isn't good for OS/2 and for Linux; right or wrong?
>
on the CD were passable, but I couldn't get more than 60 Hz
vertical refresh, which is awful. I finally got some newer drivers
which are capable of 80+ Hz. GRADD may be even better.
The SciTech drivers produced all kinds of wonderful
resolution/refresh combinations (up to 100 Hz :-)
Your card has a similar name, which means that there may be
absolutely nothing in common between them :-) . YMMV.
From what I've heard ATI are definitely Linux-unfriendly.
Not only they don't make drivers, they won't let others do it :-(
Csaba
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Peter Stein
Csaba Raduly <csaba....@sophos.com> wrote:
>davisf...@union.edu wrote:
>>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> I'm looking for a new laptop. It looks like I'm going back to Sager
>> (having somehow blown away my old trusty).
>>
>> I see some video is designated as XGA.
>>
>> Does this raise any problems for OS/2 or for Linux?
>>
>> I note also that a couple run ATI Rage Pro 3D AGP. I have the impression
>> this isn't good for OS/2 and for Linux; right or wrong?
>>
>My computer at work has a 3D Rage IIc video card. The drivers
>on the CD were passable, but I couldn't get more than 60 Hz
>vertical refresh, which is awful. I finally got some newer drivers
>which are capable of 80+ Hz. GRADD may be even better.
>The SciTech drivers produced all kinds of wonderful
>resolution/refresh combinations (up to 100 Hz :-)
>
>Your card has a similar name, which means that there may be
>absolutely nothing in common between them :-) . YMMV.
>
>From what I've heard ATI are definitely Linux-unfriendly.
>Not only they don't make drivers, they won't let others do it :-(
xfree86 3.3.5 has ATI Rage support. If this is unsatisfactory there is
the commercial Xinside (www.xig.com) server. I have no experience with
ATI drivers, but have been researching the issue as I'm contemplating
a laptop with the Rage Pro chipset (other chipsets such as NeoMagic are
even worse from an OS2/Linux perspective). I've seen some reports that
the GRADD drivers work, although slowly.
Peter Stein
n...@xnet.com
davisf...@union.edu
>My computer at work has a 3D Rage IIc video card. The drivers on the CD
>were passable, but I couldn't get more than 60 Hz vertical refresh,
>which is awful. I finally got some newer drivers which are capable of 80+
>Hz. GRADD may be even better.
>The SciTech drivers produced all kinds of wonderful
>resolution/refresh combinations (up to 100 Hz :-)
>Your card has a similar name, which means that there may be
>absolutely nothing in common between them :-) . YMMV.
>From what I've heard ATI are definitely Linux-unfriendly.
>Not only they don't make drivers, they won't let others do it :-( Csaba
At least one reseller preloads Linux on systems with this card (Lindsay
Computers) so it's definitely possible and I assume a stable setup.
Your news about OS/2 sounds encouraging - I hope I interpret you
correctly?
davisf...@union.edu
>>From what I've heard ATI are definitely Linux-unfriendly.
>>Not only they don't make drivers, they won't let others do it :-(
>xfree86 3.3.5 has ATI Rage support. If this is unsatisfactory there is
>the commercial Xinside (www.xig.com) server. I have no experience with
>ATI drivers, but have been researching the issue as I'm contemplating a
>laptop with the Rage Pro chipset (other chipsets such as NeoMagic are
>even worse from an OS2/Linux perspective). I've seen some reports that
>the GRADD drivers work, although slowly.
Working my way backwards in this thread - I saw a site (Lindsay Computer
Systems) which preloads Linux. They use the ATI Rage so that's
encouraging.
Peter Stein
<davisf...@union.edu> wrote:
>In <7r39r8$q0n$1...@flood.xnet.com>, on 09/07/99
> at 03:09 PM, n...@typhoon.xnet.com (Peter Stein) said:
>
>>>From what I've heard ATI are definitely Linux-unfriendly.
>>>Not only they don't make drivers, they won't let others do it :-(
>
>>xfree86 3.3.5 has ATI Rage support. If this is unsatisfactory there is
>>the commercial Xinside (www.xig.com) server. I have no experience with
>>ATI drivers, but have been researching the issue as I'm contemplating a
>>laptop with the Rage Pro chipset (other chipsets such as NeoMagic are
>>even worse from an OS2/Linux perspective). I've seen some reports that
>>the GRADD drivers work, although slowly.
>
>Working my way backwards in this thread - I saw a site (Lindsay Computer
>Systems) which preloads Linux. They use the ATI Rage so that's
>encouraging.
I'm familiar with LCS (have ordered product from Rick) as they tend to
carry high quality components and are very OS2 and Linux aware, but I cannot
find any references to preloading Linux and/or use of the ATI Rage. They do
list sample configurations from time to time so perhaps they listed an Asus
laptop with Linux, but I can't find any such configuration on their web site
right now.
davisf...@union.edu
>>
>>Working my way backwards in this thread - I saw a site (Lindsay Computer
>>Systems) which preloads Linux. They use the ATI Rage so that's
>>encouraging.
>I'm familiar with LCS (have ordered product from Rick) as they tend to
>carry high quality components and are very OS2 and Linux aware, but I
>cannot find any references to preloading Linux and/or use of the ATI
>Rage. They do list sample configurations from time to time so perhaps
>they listed an Asus laptop with Linux, but I can't find any such
>configuration on their web site right now.
Sorry, it was J.P. & Associates at
<http://www.jpassociates.com/toshwlin.html>.