Loren Pechtel wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:53:34 -0500, Metspitzer <
Kilo...@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:24:15 -0500, Metspitzer <
Kilo...@charter.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:10:10 -0800, Loren Pechtel
>>> <
lorenp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:19:57 -0500, Metspitzer <
Kilo...@charter.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know there are SATA2 and SATA3 SSD drives. Are the cables
>>>>> different?
>>>> Backwards compatible, not necessarily forward-compatible. An
>>>> el-cheapo SATA2 might not be good enough to handle SATA3. The plugs
>>>> are the same, though.
>>> I have red, gray, black and blue SATA cables? How would you know?
>> I see that some of them are marked. The oldest cables I have are red.
>> They are marked 26AWG. I am guessing they are SATA 2. The newest
>> cables I have are blue. They are also marked 26AWG, but they are also
>> marked 6Gbps/3Gbs.
>
> 26AWG is the wire size. That says very little about how fast they can
> work. The 6gbs/3gbs marking is a clear indication that that's a SATA3
> cable.
26AWG means 26 American Wire Gauge. And has nothing to do with how
the wire works. Wire gauge might be important for maximum current
flow say, but for signal transmission, the currents aren't that
large.
The SATA cable is set up to have a characteristic impedance, which affects
how high frequency signals propagate. The location of the wire mates
(diff pair), the insulation material, position of shield or drain wire,
matter to the construction. Maybe you could change the wire gauge,
adjust the dimensions a bit, and it would still work. But more than
just the wire diameter would be a factor.
As far as I know, the intention was to use the same cables for both
SATA II and SATA III. A vendor extolling the virtues of a cable
they're selling, is selling FUD (feat uncertainty doubt).
I don't know if there is any difference in length spec for SATA III
or not. But I think they wanted to be able to use the same cables,
so there wouldn't have to be something distinctive on the cables
to tell them apart.
This is *not* how you test cables. You can use a digital storage scope
with eye diagram software, and get the real answer as to whether a
given setup is passing or failing. If the spec says the max cable
length is X, you don't make a 3X cable and test it. There is no point
to that. It's outside the spec. Maybe it gives an impression of the
margin available in the chip interfaces, but the eye diagram can
tell you much the same thing, without potentially screwing up an
SSD to prove it works.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/your_sata_cable_slowing_down_your_data_transfers_max_pc_investigates
A SATA II eye diagram. Blue repetitive waveform, must not touch
the red colored pass/fail points. This example has plenty of
margin. Not likely to be any transmission errors here.
http://www.fujitsu.com/img/EDG/product/asic/ipmacro/sata-2.jpg
I couldn't find an eye diagram for SATA III, but this is a
device running at SATA III rates. And you can see the signal
is still clean. Amazingly clean actually, considering the
frequency.
http://www.maximintegrated.com/images/appnotes/4648/4648Fig05.gif
Paul