Reboot in games... Why...why...why...?
KTN
perfect. I have upgraded some hardware and the damn thing has started to
reboot in games. Sometimes after 10 min ... sometimes after 4 hours. Never
had a crash in Win98. Never had a lockup ... always reboots.
What causes reboots?
How do you tell what is wrong?
Is there an advanced logger outthere that constantly writes data so it can
be vieved after reboot?
Signed
Thure
Setup : Abit BX6, PII 300, 2 x 64 PC100, IBM GXP 10,1 GB, CL TNT, CL Live
Value, Cambridge FourPoint
po...@carolina.rr.calm
>I got a PII 300 MHz clocked at 4,5 x 100 Mhz since day one. Used to work
>perfect. I have upgraded some hardware and the damn thing has started to
>reboot in games. Sometimes after 10 min ... sometimes after 4 hours. Never
>had a crash in Win98. Never had a lockup ... always reboots.
>
>What causes reboots?
>
>How do you tell what is wrong?
you guess from a list of the "usual suspects ;)
>Is there an advanced logger outthere that constantly writes data so it can
>be vieved after reboot?
no
To be honest...the "magic bullet" is to raise the ovltage...if you
don't have an ABit BH6 or BX6, you'll need to check here
http://www.3dhardware.net/features/slot1voltage/index.shtml
2.2 will probably fix it right up
Frank A. Silano
po...@carolina.rr.calm wrote in message <36d08956.24415150@news-server>...
Greg Topf
show signs of overclocking. Its one drawback..component life is reduced,
and this may be whats happening to you...
Art Chang
Bh6+celery works better with ram at Ram slot 1. Another system that I o/c
works better with ram at slot 3.
Art
Greg Topf wrote in message ...
Dan
say they have no problems, but do a search on dejanews and you will over 500
messages about the BH6 and the SB Live. Let me guess, the new hardware you
upgraded to was the SB LIVE! ?.... been there, done that... I was forced to
choose between another 3D sound card or a new MB..... with the other
problems I found I chose to order a new MB. One suggestion was to turn off
DMA for all your hard drives in Device Manager but that really didn't help
me. I am using all 5 PCI slots and 2 USB devices. But adding the SB Live
was the final straw for the BH6.
Dan
KTN <Th...@Post8.Tele.DK> wrote in message
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>2,0 - 2,4 volts - the same problem.
>
>It may be a hardware conflict but according to "system" there are none.
>
>Signed
>
>Thure
>
>
>KTN wrote in message <7ch5qi$1jak$1...@news-inn.inet.tele.dk>...
>>I got a PII 300 MHz clocked at 4,5 x 100 Mhz since day one. Used to work
>>perfect. I have upgraded some hardware and the damn thing has started to
>>reboot in games. Sometimes after 10 min ... sometimes after 4 hours. Never
>>had a crash in Win98. Never had a lockup ... always reboots.
>>
>>What causes reboots?
>>
>>How do you tell what is wrong?
>>
>>Is there an advanced logger outthere that constantly writes data so it can
>>be vieved after reboot?
>>
>>
User
so, try turning DMA on all your drives and run the HD Tach test again. If
the hangs go away with DMA off then see:
http://www.concentric.net/~psilon/bh6_dma.html. This site doesn't have any
answers, but at least you will know that you're not alone....
User
Joseph M. Clemente
My SB Live will share fine with my video card, but won't share with another
PCI card which shares fine with other cards... Or one of a million other
things.
Card-slot-IRQ arrangements can almost make building a machine like a puzzle.
Dan wrote in message <7chkps$dlr$1...@news.ispn.net>...
>BH6 + CL Live = reboot... reboot... reboot.... I know some will get on and
>say they have no problems, but do a search on dejanews and you will over
500
>messages about the BH6 and the SB Live. Let me guess, the new hardware you
<snip>
Victor Chan
http://www2.tky.3web.ne.jp/~nrklv/src/soft_e.html
Johnny Wong
away. And if it does, get the new beta bios and slow down the L2 latency to
something like 8, which is what the real PII 450 run at. The PII300 sets
the latency at 3 by default. You probably have 5.5 ns L2 cache like me :(
KTN <Th...@Post8.Tele.DK> wrote in message
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KTN
It may be a hardware conflict but according to "system" there are none.
Signed
Thure
KTN wrote in message <7ch5qi$1jak$1...@news-inn.inet.tele.dk>...
John C
Try pulling cards and moving them about. The BH6 is somewhat picky
about where things are placed sometimes.
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Dan wrote in message <7chkps$dlr$1...@news.ispn.net>...
>BH6 + CL Live = reboot... reboot... reboot.... I know some will get
on and
>say they have no problems, but do a search on dejanews and you will
over 500
>messages about the BH6 and the SB Live. Let me guess, the new
hardware you
>upgraded to was the SB LIVE! ?.... been there, done that... I was
forced to
>choose between another 3D sound card or a new MB..... with the other
>problems I found I chose to order a new MB. One suggestion was to
turn off
>DMA for all your hard drives in Device Manager but that really didn't
help
>me. I am using all 5 PCI slots and 2 USB devices. But adding the SB
Live
>was the final straw for the BH6.
>
>Dan
>
>
>
>KTN <Th...@Post8.Tele.DK> wrote in message
>news:7chilr$5nds$1...@news-inn.inet.tele.dk...
golgatha
Man what Bunk! hehehe...I have been running a SB Live value in a
over clocked 300A system for quite a wile now,and it has never
rebooted! however I am useing a Abit BH6 board.The problem lies in
your voltage settings.Try bumping it up a notch..That should take care
of it .If that dont do it try moving your Ram stick to a diffrent
slot.If that still dont do it,I would be taking a good look at that
new hardware you just installed.It could be defective..please let us
know what it is that you just installed so we can better answer your
question...
karlo
> don't have an ABit BH6 or BX6, you'll need to check here
> http://www.3dhardware.net/features/slot1voltage/index.shtml
>
> 2.2 will probably fix it right up
>
or in extreme cases 2.4 volts.
John&Lesley
hardware.
You dont tell us what you replaced, but is it something that is only used
during games? (eg, say, a voodoo2). If this is the case, and it only
re-boots during games I would suspect something wrong with the new hardware.
I've had quite a lot of hardware that has not been DOA, but was def. running
erratically, and when replaced the problem went away.
Drivers? Is everything sorted on this front? (thought to be honest it sounds
hardware related to me)
Another thing - did you add some ram? - I have seen rebooting problems with
faulty ram - it counts it ok, but when it tries to use it the system
reboots. Often games are the only things which use the full ram allocation.
(Unreal uses about 150Mb on my home machine - nothing else I use (excel,
word, IE4) comes close to this amount of memory usage).
Another one is overheating. When it does it after 10 mins is the house hot?
Could be some of the new hardware is getting upset...
Hope this helps, but I'm probably not telling you anything you dont know
already...
John
Justin R.
po...@carolina.rr.calm wrote in message <36d08956.24415150@news-server>...
>"KTN" <Th...@Post8.Tele.DK> wrote:
>
>>I got a PII 300 MHz clocked at 4,5 x 100 Mhz since day one. Used to work
>>perfect. I have upgraded some hardware and the damn thing has started to
>>reboot in games. Sometimes after 10 min ... sometimes after 4 hours. Never
>>had a crash in Win98. Never had a lockup ... always reboots.
>>
>>What causes reboots?
>>
>>How do you tell what is wrong?
>you guess from a list of the "usual suspects ;)
>>Is there an advanced logger outthere that constantly writes data so it can
>>be vieved after reboot?
>no
Justin R.
Dan wrote in message <7chkps$dlr$1...@news.ispn.net>...
>BH6 + CL Live = reboot... reboot... reboot.... I know some will get on and
>say they have no problems, but do a search on dejanews and you will over
500
>messages about the BH6 and the SB Live. Let me guess, the new hardware you
>upgraded to was the SB LIVE! ?.... been there, done that... I was forced
to
>choose between another 3D sound card or a new MB..... with the other
>problems I found I chose to order a new MB. One suggestion was to turn
off
>DMA for all your hard drives in Device Manager but that really didn't help
>me. I am using all 5 PCI slots and 2 USB devices. But adding the SB Live
>was the final straw for the BH6.
>
>Dan
>
>
>
>KTN <Th...@Post8.Tele.DK> wrote in message
>news:7chilr$5nds$1...@news-inn.inet.tele.dk...
>>2,0 - 2,4 volts - the same problem.
>>
>>It may be a hardware conflict but according to "system" there are none.
>>
>>Signed
>>
>>Thure
>>
>>
>>KTN wrote in message <7ch5qi$1jak$1...@news-inn.inet.tele.dk>...
>>>I got a PII 300 MHz clocked at 4,5 x 100 Mhz since day one. Used to work
>>>perfect. I have upgraded some hardware and the damn thing has started to
>>>reboot in games. Sometimes after 10 min ... sometimes after 4 hours.
Never
>>>had a crash in Win98. Never had a lockup ... always reboots.
>>>
>>>What causes reboots?
>>>
>>>How do you tell what is wrong?
>>>
>>>Is there an advanced logger outthere that constantly writes data so it
can
>>>be vieved after reboot?
>>>
>>>
337
at the start when I overclocked my system, but I cured it by doing the
following:
moved my dimm
bought an AGP card instead of PCI video card
moved PCI cards around so no cards were in slots 1 and 5
(if the card uses an IRQ, you are supposed to avoid these slots)
I think that with 5 PCI cards and 1 ISA card, I was getting conflicts even
though Windows98 showed none.
If you have something like a Voodoo2 that uses no IRQ, move it slots 1 and
5.
Rob Terro
Seemed like the problem was between the SBLive and my Aopen modem. I knew
there was a problem w/ the SBLive because it would also hang at the SB
initialization prior to Windows 98 startup.
I resolved it by juggling the cards a few times.
Regards,
Rob
337 wrote in message ...
Pete Bateman
System works fine, upgrade some bits, system starts crashing. There's a fairly
logical progression there.
Try downgrading again as an experiment. This should point you in the right
direction.
Pete.
KTN
crash in Win98 at 4,5 x 100 MHz. In 300 MHz the thing also doesn´t crash.
Updated a lot of hardware these last 2 months :
1. 1 extra 64 MB PC100 stick (I use DIMM 1 and 2) + IBM GXP 10,1 GB
2. SB Live Value (last PCI slot) + Cambridge FourPoint + CL 36x CD-ROM
It may be the SB Live but why the hell doesn´t it reboot in 300 MHz (4,5 x
66 MHz) then? The PCI bus should still be 33 MHz?
Why should the first / last PCI slot never be used?
Where can I get the BETA Bios for the BX6?
Signed
Thure
P.S. *** THANX FOR ALL THE HELP AND SUGGESTIONS ***
337
given at the Abit site.
Try the dimms in 2 and 3
I have the SB Live in PCI slot 3
The PCI bus speed is not out of speck at 100mhz.
I did drop down to the SB 16, and the problem went away until I put back the
SB Live and emptied those 2 PCI slots.
I doubt the beta bios is the answer.
KTN wrote in message <7cjaoo$30v2$1...@news-inn.inet.tele.dk>...
John&Lesley
if the ram is the "top" 64Mb, and its bad, then when a game tries to access
it then kaboom. (I had this on an old 486 with 20mb - memory count fine, and
using small word documents - no problem. As soon as you got a large document
it would either hang or reboot)
John
Malcolm Lavery
top, and remember, all the hardware/devices, are allocated a section
of memory address, which could be anywere, Im not an expert on memory
allocation but I know its acessed fragment`edly, hehe, if there is such a
word :O))
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when I had the dreaded rebooting (to do with DMA hard drive accessing).
I got fed up with it and bought a P2B. No probs since.
Aaron
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at the time, if that makes any difference....
John
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Dr. Hex
down the fault?