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I would like to think that if I have assassins trained in a city that has the "master guild", that my assassins would have at least a relatively good chance of being very successful in their endeavours.Your thoughts? AuthorReplies: Brother Noopsy
Legionary posted 18 November 2006 17:01 EDT (US) 1 / 27 I think the assassins are useless. I'm in turn 89 playing as England and I have 5 assassins. They cannot seem to murder anyone. I've tried against the Scots, Danes, Milanese, French, Diplomats, Spys and generals and not a one is ever successful. They don't get caught and executed either they just fail with every attempt. One had a 48% chance and still blew it. They have failed so often that whoever they try to kill is now about a 5% chance.I have a big crowd of other countries agents around cities in Europe but I can't get rid of any and then they bribe my armies. Rabidnid
Banned posted 18 November 2006 17:05 EDT (US) 2 / 27 I've not had one with a sucess chance of higher than 14% and haven't killed anybody in about 20 attempts. julii_general
Legionary posted 18 November 2006 17:05 EDT (US) 3 / 27 yeah assasins are a waste in time here.
In RTW you could make a good assasin and make him a killing machine working together with a spy,but in in M2TW assasins are too weak. Aussie Lord
Legionary posted 19 November 2006 01:46 EDT (US) 4 / 27 My assassins are doing okay i was spain and the moors kept sending there priest guys in my provinces so i assainated them and killed them first time then attacked another one and tryed about 3 times then killed him.But you see if assassins are to powerful the game will just be stupid you could wipe out a faction by killing there faction leaders with assassins not on the battlefield Brother Noopsy
Legionary posted 19 November 2006 02:54 EDT (US) 5 / 27 "But you see if assassins are to powerful the game will just be stupid you could wipe out a faction by killing there faction leaders with assassins not on the battlefield"That is true but the point is that the assassins in M2TW are never successful. Out of my 5 assassins at least two should have one or two successful attempts to build up their skills. Besides, they should sometimes be able to kill off faction leaders and heirs.In Rome some assassins were hopeless and occassionally you had a really good one who built up enough skills but even they get caught and executed eventually. Assassins in M2TW just seem like a waste of money. As I said in my earlier post I'm surrounded by enemy agents. I should be able to kill some of them, especially merchants, or they play havoc on my cities, armies and trade.
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Legionary posted 19 November 2006 03:04 EDT (US) 6 / 27 The problem is, unless you have a guilde or some other building that offers skills, most agents you recuit will have no skill or 1. They should make it so they start out with 2 or 3 skill points.Never lie, steal, cheat, or drink. But if you must lie, lie in the arms of the one you love. If you must steal, steal away from bad company. If you must cheat, cheat death. And if you must drink, drink in the moments that take your breath away.
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Legionary posted 19 November 2006 03:34 EDT (US) 7 / 27 You guys give up too easily. Guilds help, but you're right...it's not easy to get a good assassin. It takes persistance and some (or a lot of) luck. But you will eventually get a good one. In the game I'm playing right now as England (M/M), the Pope was upset at me and I was warned that if I attacked France I would be excommunicated. They were down to one province and I really wanted to finish them off. The Pope was relatively young and I didn't want to wait, so I had my best assassin in the area of Rome and decided to take a crack at a Pope assassination.Let's just say that France was eliminated, there are now three newly-open spots in the College of Cardinals where the French Cardinals were, and I should have a decent shot at electing one of mine Pope next turn.My point is not to gloat, my point is that assassins can work. But in nearly 100 turns, I've only had a couple good ones, and not that many successful assassinations. Just do easy missions until they get better skills and retainers (especially retainers), and just accept that you are going to lose lots of assassins in the process of making a few good ones. It's not supposed to be easy. Insert JFK speach here.No, I'm not being sarcastic.[This message has been edited by Smileyman007 (edited 11-19-2006 03:36 AM).] bottle_rocket
Legionary posted 19 November 2006 08:35 EDT (US) 8 / 27 Yeah - but it is still to hard. Tbe manual says you should start an assasin off with a few easy targets, but the way things are there's none.I managed to get an assasin to 'off' and enemy captain, only for him to lose the traits he'd picked up with a success the next time there was a fail.I find myself constantly building assasins and sending wave after wave (10-15) against priests and inquisitors with no results. Shurley shome mishtake? Rabidnid
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