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p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Jun 4, 2020, 4:52:34 AM6/4/20
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Yae! Free as in free...

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/05/27/whats-new-in-the-windows-10-may-2020-update/

"The May 2020 Update comes with feature improvements that will help save
you time and maybe even be a source of fun. "

But not free from issues

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-2004

Personally, I am avoiding this like the plague after the blue screen
'issues' I had recently which could be related. I think they need a few
months to fix the driver 'issues' before I'm prepared to play guinea pig
again.

OK, lets play spot the new feature that's useful to old gits. I didn't
spot one. Anyone?


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Jun 4, 2020, 5:45:47 AM6/4/20
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On 04/06/2020 10:52, p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
>
> Yae! Free as in free...
>
> https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/05/27/whats-new-in-the-windows-10-may-2020-update/
>
> "The May 2020 Update comes with feature improvements that will help save
> you time and maybe even be a source of fun. "
>
> But not free from issues
>
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-2004
>
> Personally, I am avoiding this like the plague after the blue screen
> 'issues' I had recently which could be related. I think they need a few
> months to fix the driver 'issues' before I'm prepared to play guinea pig
> again.
>

I'm not sure what you were doing when you got 'blue screen' issues
earlier, but no such issues (experienced or reported) here. (I did the
update a couple of days ago.)

AWARE: Corliss, some of my personalisation settings were reset. Things
look subtly different. Do NOT do the upgrade. I know that small,
seemingly insignificant changes upset you.



p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Jun 4, 2020, 8:33:06 AM6/4/20
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:45:43 +0200, occam <oc...@invalid.nix> wrote:

>On 04/06/2020 10:52, p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
>>
>> Yae! Free as in free...
>>
>> https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/05/27/whats-new-in-the-windows-10-may-2020-update/
>>
>> "The May 2020 Update comes with feature improvements that will help save
>> you time and maybe even be a source of fun. "
>>
>> But not free from issues
>>
>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-2004
>>
>> Personally, I am avoiding this like the plague after the blue screen
>> 'issues' I had recently which could be related. I think they need a few
>> months to fix the driver 'issues' before I'm prepared to play guinea pig
>> again.
>>
>
>I'm not sure what you were doing when you got 'blue screen' issues
>earlier, but no such issues (experienced or reported) here. (I did the
>update a couple of days ago.)

I am not alone

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Operating-Systems-and-Recovery/KMODE-EXCEPTION-NOT-HANDLED/td-p/7591788


>AWARE: Corliss, some of my personalisation settings were reset. Things
>look subtly different. Do NOT do the upgrade. I know that small,
>seemingly insignificant changes upset you.

John Corliss run Windows 10... NEVER!

John C.

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Jun 4, 2020, 10:33:10 AM6/4/20
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p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:45:43 +0200, occam <oc...@invalid.nix> wrote:
>
>> On 04/06/2020 10:52, p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
>>>
>>> Yae! Free as in free...
>>>
>>> https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/05/27/whats-new-in-the-windows-10-may-2020-update/
>>>
>>> "The May 2020 Update comes with feature improvements that will help save
>>> you time and maybe even be a source of fun. "
>>>
>>> But not free from issues
>>>
>>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-2004
>>>
>>> Personally, I am avoiding this like the plague after the blue screen
>>> 'issues' I had recently which could be related. I think they need a few
>>> months to fix the driver 'issues' before I'm prepared to play guinea pig
>>> again.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what you were doing when you got 'blue screen' issues
>> earlier, but no such issues (experienced or reported) here. (I did the
>> update a couple of days ago.)
>
> I am not alone
>
> https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Operating-Systems-and-Recovery/KMODE-EXCEPTION-NOT-HANDLED/td-p/7591788
>
>
>> AWARE: Corliss, some of my personalisation settings were reset. Things
>> look subtly different. Do NOT do the upgrade. I know that small,
>> seemingly insignificant changes upset you.
>
> John Corliss run Windows 10... NEVER!

You got that right! 80)>

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occam

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Jun 4, 2020, 10:53:31 AM6/4/20
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On 04/06/2020 16:32, John C. wrote:
> p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:45:43 +0200, occam <oc...@invalid.nix> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/06/2020 10:52, p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yae! Free as in free...
>>>>
>>>> https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/05/27/whats-new-in-the-windows-10-may-2020-update/
>>>>
>>>> "The May 2020 Update comes with feature improvements that will help save
>>>> you time and maybe even be a source of fun. "
>>>>
>>>> But not free from issues
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-2004
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I am avoiding this like the plague after the blue screen
>>>> 'issues' I had recently which could be related. I think they need a few
>>>> months to fix the driver 'issues' before I'm prepared to play guinea pig
>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what you were doing when you got 'blue screen' issues
>>> earlier, but no such issues (experienced or reported) here. (I did the
>>> update a couple of days ago.)
>>
>> I am not alone
>>
>> https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Operating-Systems-and-Recovery/KMODE-EXCEPTION-NOT-HANDLED/td-p/7591788
>>
>>
>>> AWARE: Corliss, some of my personalisation settings were reset. Things
>>> look subtly different. Do NOT do the upgrade. I know that small,
>>> seemingly insignificant changes upset you.
>>
>> John Corliss run Windows 10... NEVER!
>
> You got that right! 80)>
>

Never say never... . MS prized you off Win XP, one fingernail at a time.

Yakker

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Jun 4, 2020, 5:42:06 PM6/4/20
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"p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super...@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote
in news:apchdf50t6iopv7v7...@4ax.com:

> https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/05/27/whats-new-in-the-windows-10-may-2020-update/

They omitted to mention a few features:
https://www.ghacks.net/2020/05/28/windows-10-version-2004-is-here-and-it-has-lots-of-issues/


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Jun 4, 2020, 10:34:58 PM6/4/20
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occam wrote:
> John C. wrote:
>> Pooh wrote:
>>> occam wrote:
>>>> Pooh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yae! Free as in free...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/05/27/whats-new-in-the-windows-10-may-2020-update/
>>>>>
>>>>> "The May 2020 Update comes with feature improvements that will help save
>>>>> you time and maybe even be a source of fun. "
>>>>>
>>>>> But not free from issues
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-2004
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I am avoiding this like the plague after the blue screen
>>>>> 'issues' I had recently which could be related. I think they need a few
>>>>> months to fix the driver 'issues' before I'm prepared to play guinea pig
>>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what you were doing when you got 'blue screen' issues
>>>> earlier, but no such issues (experienced or reported) here. (I did the
>>>> update a couple of days ago.)
>>>
>>> I am not alone
>>>
>>> https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Operating-Systems-and-Recovery/KMODE-EXCEPTION-NOT-HANDLED/td-p/7591788
>>>
>>>> AWARE: Corliss, some of my personalisation settings were reset. Things
>>>> look subtly different. Do NOT do the upgrade. I know that small,
>>>> seemingly insignificant changes upset you.
>>>
>>> John Corliss run Windows 10... NEVER!
>>
>> You got that right! 80)>
>
> Never say never... . MS prized you off Win XP, one fingernail at a time.

Naw, it wasn't that. A relative gave me a nicer, newer computer with W7
on it. Even then, it took me months to move over to it completely. The
old XP computer was developing problems and getting slower on the
internet because many websites demand faster hardware.

Recently, I had some very important doctor appointments I couldn't skip
and they were supposed to be via video calls. Also, I had gone up north
to visit relatives. I woke up early in the morning with nothing to do
but read a book I'd brought. I decided to get a new laptop for the video
calls and to take along with me on trips for something to do during the
wee hours. Of course, the thing has W10 on it. I have absolutely no
intention of every having anything of a personal nature on that laptop
and to absolutely minimize any time I spend on the internet with it (my
relatives up north don't have any internet connection or wireless in
their house.) I figured if I was going to hate a version of Windows, I
should at least know WTF I was talking about too.

W10 is every bit the abomination I expected it to be. The UI is an
absolute clusterfuck of piss-poor programming, riddled with bugs and
missing important features I count on in Windows 7 (this computer I'm
using right now.) I detest the Windows Store "app" thing altogether.

Did you know that if you "uninstall" an "app" it usually actually only
disables it and that the "app" remains installed in the
hidden-by-default c:\Program Files\WindowsApp folder which is also
inaccessible by default?

If you want to see what kind of an orphanage hell this folder is like I
did, you can follow the directions here:

https://thegeekpage.com/access-windows-apps-folder-in-windows-10/

to obtain access to it. I did this and immediately saw lots of shit that
I'd supposedly "uninstalled".

The Start Menu is a freaking nightmare. I had to install Open-Shell:

https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

in order to convert it into something I can actually use as well as to
make the Windows 10 File Manager... eh... Windows Explorer... eh... File
Explorer usable.

The lack of UI configurability (Window Color) and new limitation to only
a couple of themes (neither of which I like) pisses me off very much.

The ill-defined, Metro-looking Window buttons in the upper right hand
corner of windows is a step in the wrong direction.

The amount of telemetry is thoroughly unacceptable.

The automatic updating is unacceptable. I've already had problems with
the forced updates changing things I didn't want changed. I'm thinking
strongly of using this:

https://greatis.com/stopupdates10/

to put an end to as much of it as I can.

And all of this is on a computer that I don't even use and which sits in
my locked briefcase, hidden away.

Oh yeah, the laptop was unable to establish video when I tried to use it
for the first doctor's appointment. We had to make do with audio only,
although the audio was very clear.

I used this (W7) computer for the second doctor's appointment and it
worked just fine, although there was initially some feedback between my
monitor's speakers and the Logitech webcam's microphone until I lifted
the webcam from the top of the monitor and simply held it in my hand,
aimed at my face.

Guess I found a barge pole long enough, but I still hate Windows 10
intensely and refuse to use it on my main system.

Maybe Germany will get serious about coming up with an alternative to
Winblows. I would love to see what kind of an OS German efficiency would
be able to come up with.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Jun 5, 2020, 5:16:32 AM6/5/20
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 21:41:59 +0000 (UTC), Yakker <NoM...@IsGoodMail.com>
wrote:
Since I restored use of my Windows 10 PC using the recovery console and
dumping Windows Defender I've had to use System Restore once when loads
of networking dialogs stopped working and Windows Update showed errors.
Amazingly, on reboot the Windows 2004 feature update suddenly appeared
but I managed to suspend all updates for a while.

All I want is a stable OS to run my applications on. None of the new
features interest me. Days wasted on this. How is your average user
supposed to recover from a bluey when reportedly the same thing reoccurs
after reinstall. I bought this PC a year ago from HP and it has a good
spec using well know makers chipsets. HP says it's Microsoft's issue and
I believe them. I've run all the hardware diagnostics and it comes up
clean. The drivers were working fine so MS shouldn't update until the
drivers have been updated to work with this new stuff that I don't need.
Microsoft QA is shite. This cat ain't happy. This is just shoddy. It's
not even isolated. It's a clusterfuck. Look at the list. How come they
didn't pick this up during QA. I can understand missing one driver issue
but there's loads. Grrr. I am considering bringing Pooh Manchu outta
retirement.

John C.

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Jun 5, 2020, 5:51:38 AM6/5/20
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No! No! Anybody but Pooh Manchu!!

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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John C.

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p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
LOL.

Arlen Holder

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Jun 5, 2020, 6:58:44 PM6/5/20
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Covered in gory detail here...
o The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/C8uKEw5vIMA>
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"p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super...@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote
in news:b12kdfhur3gjm4s83...@4ax.com:

> How come they
> didn't pick this up during QA.

None of the test machines had your precise configuration or failure was
inconsistent. Exampe:

Back in my tech suppoprt days, I had aboout 100 laptops come my way to
configure. These were all models, identically spec'd and used
identically cloned disk for configuration. Sample laptops were tested
centrally within the organisation. No doubt MS did their own tests on
what was a high-selling brand but would not have had access to our
configuration disk when they tested. The report I received with the
laptop was "no problems, all good to go".

I had 20% fail due to a driver issue. The techies up the chain would not
believe me when I reported driver failure was causing BSOD. Eventually
someone believed me, re-tested and had the driver corrected by the
manufacturer. Meanwhile, re-Ghosting the hard drive (sometimes more
than once) eventually sorted my fleet.


Flexibility is both the reason to have Windows and the reason for many
of its problems. Well, that plus the complex disk-hogging load of useles
c...p they bundle in the system instead of allowing the option for user
to load only what they need.

Flasherly

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On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 23:03:34 +0000 (UTC), Yakker
<NoM...@IsGoodMail.com> wrote:

>Flexibility is both the reason to have Windows and the reason for many
>of its problems. Well, that plus the complex disk-hogging load of useles
>c...p they bundle in the system instead of allowing the option for user
>to load only what they need.

Slipstreaming, I recall an article from one of a widely circulated WEB
technical source, where the author, I'd presume either to have
determined or listed from elsewhere, provided a tabulation of
significant superciliousness from Microsoft inclusions to Windows 7 at
some level possible to disambiguate from the actual slipstream process
and intent.

In any event, the reduction to Windows 7 was in magnitude at an order
closer Windows XP, in that the Windows 7 install totaled perhaps a
couple gigabyte, twice around and above a XP base install estimate.
(Microsoft recommends 20G, at a base relocation of the swap and
interdiction for hibernation, this particular machine would indicate
for a 9G Windows 7 install.)

Of course modern resources trivialize much of what computers once
implied, all but to a minority of the technicist's discipline through
factoring hardware component compliance, no less for a minority
faction seen from a cost consequently advantageous to not assembling,
in fact, over an aftermarket of computer builds and their various
continued service commitment offerings.

Yet, of course, computers do still fail, and at times abysmally. And
at the same level of a technicist still applies, nonetheless, at
certain benefits and a presumptiveness hardware advancements may have
to propose: A broken computer or level of expectancy seen for
substandardized inefficiency in software remains no less dauntingly
irksome in any present tense, as problems posed once to a past
specificity decidedly more concentric to hardware issues.

That people do not presume to question a logical consequence
underlying a modern age of inventive computer augmentation, an aide to
intelligence, then, as now, remains a matter of diminished perception
and intrusive discipline;- wherein what industry leaders have to
assume such responsibility, in favoring not a computer, per se, but
where apart specificity industry interests lucratively coincide to
promote computers for an alternative, at a populous skew that
intersect most directly to advertising of applied technologies, i.e.
on social media among dedicated handheld services China most
indirectly is responsible for sponsoring, ironically in reprisal to
Bill Gates and where Microsoft was inexorably diverted into a terminal
surveillance system.
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