How to watch telegram video (t.me or tg://resolve) without having a telegram account

[Incubus]

Telegram videos (apparently) resolve to these two types of links.
https://t.me/
tg://resolve?domain=&post=

Is there a way on Windows or on the smart phone to watch a telegram video
which is referenced when you don't have or want to open a telegram account?

My default web browser is Firefox on both.

This may be behind a paywall but this NYT article today is the straw that
broke the camel's back for me, since this happens ten times a day for me.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/12/world/europe/ukraine-bakhmut-russia.html

The article isn't the point, but this reference is what I'm asking about.
"Videos released on Friday by Ukraine's 3rd Separate Assault Brigade showed
soldiers piling out of armored personnel carriers and assaulting a Russian
trench. "Forward, forward!" a soldier yelled in the video, filmed on a
helmet camera. The soldiers dived for cover as Russian fighters threw a
hand grenade, then ran forward and threw their own grenade into a Russian
bunker."

Under "showed soldiers piling out of armored personnel carriers" is this.
https://t.me/BiletskyAndriy/5119

That t.me link expands to a telegram page in the Firefox web browser.

Browser experiences are notoriously variant, but for me, FF says "Media is
too big - View in Telegram" and "View in Channel" - but when I click on
either of those links, they resolve to similar unreadable content for me.
View in Telegram = https://t.me/BiletskyAndriy/5119
View in Channel = tg://resolve?domain=BiletskyAndriy&post=5119

[Paul]

"At one point, a grenade falls nearby, we have a light 300. But despite this,
the assault actions do not stop. And the next pomegranate - from us, gets
clearly into the armor of the Russians."

yt-dlp https://t.me/s/BiletskyAndriy/5119

-rwxrwxrwx 1 name name 6695936 May 13 Андрій Білецький (2) [5119-2].mp4
-rwxrwxrwx 1 name name 6695936 May 13 Андрій Білецький (1) [5119-1].mp4

They seem to be the same video, and it's just a talking head video.
Maybe the Youtube downloader isn't working right. Hard to say.

The Youtube downloader software (a fork), has the capability to download
video from around 10,000 web sites. That's why this works. But whether
it got all the videos, from a web page with multiple videos, that's
hard to say.

Note: The letter "s" is added to your link. Info from Reddit.

Paul

[Herbert Kleebauer]

The video you downloaded can also be viewed in Firefox (9.May
on page https://t.me/s/BiletskyAndriy/5119). But this works only
for videos smaller than 15 MByte:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Telegram/comments/kp34ii/telegram_channel_video_sizes/

https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/23376

[Winston]

Incubus <u953...@gmail.com> asked:

> Is there a way on Windows or on the smart phone to watch a telegram video
> which is referenced when you don't have or want to open a telegram account?

...

> FF says "Media is too big - View in Telegram"

That's not a browser issue, and the "too big" message is from Telegram.
Only "small"/"short" (as decided by Telegram) videos may be viewed by
someone not logged in to Telegram.
-WBE

[Incubus]

On 2023-05-13, Herbert Kleebauer <kl...@unibwm.de> wrote:
> The video you downloaded can also be viewed in Firefox (9.May
> on page https://t.me/s/BiletskyAndriy/5119). But this works only
> for videos smaller than 15 MByte:
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Telegram/comments/kp34ii/telegram_channel_video_sizes/
>
> https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/23376

I like the idea of the youtube downloader if it works for telegram videos.

What I was hoping for was something like the phone has for youtube which is
an alternative clever app which gives everyone the same over-18 login.

But I'll try the two suggested youtube downloaders first.

youtube-dl.exe https://t.me/s/BiletskyAndriy/5119
[generic] 5119: Requesting header
WARNING: Falling back on generic information extractor.
[generic] 5119: Downloading webpage
[generic] 5119: Extracting information
[download] Downloading playlist: Андрій Білецький
[generic] playlist Андрій Білецький: Collected 2 video ids (downloading 2
of them)
[download] Downloading video 1 of 2
[download] Destination: Андрій Білецький (1)-5119-1.mp4
[download] 100% of 6.39MiB in 00:03
[download] Downloading video 2 of 2
[download] Destination: Андрій Білецький (2)-5119-2.mp4
[download] 100% of 6.39MiB in 00:03
[download] Finished downloading playlist: Андрій Білецький

yt-dlp.exe https://t.me/s/BiletskyAndriy/5119
[generic] 5119: Requesting header
WARNING: [generic] Falling back on generic information extractor.
[generic] 5119: Downloading webpage
[generic] 5119: Extracting information
[download] Downloading playlist: Андрій Білецький
[generic] Playlist Андрій Білецький: Downloading 2 videos of 2
[download] Downloading video 1 of 2
[info] 5119-1: Downloading 1 format(s): 0
[download] Destination: Андрій Білецький (1) [5119-1].mp4
[download] 100% of 6.39MiB in 00:02
[download] Downloading video 2 of 2
[info] 5119-2: Downloading 1 format(s): 0
[download] Destination: Андрій Білецький (2) [5119-2].mp4
[download] 100% of 6.39MiB in 00:02
[download] Finished downloading playlist: Андрій Білецький

I watched the videos.
They weren't worth the effort.

But at least I can see a Telegram video using either youtube-dl.exe
or yt-dlp.exe the next time there is a video posted to telegram.

Thanks.

[Incubus]

On 2023-05-13, Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:
> yt-dlp https://t.me/s/BiletskyAndriy/5119

This page says to add "?embed=1" to the end of the string above.
https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/23376


But it did not seem to make any difference in the output.



yt-dlp.exe https://t.me/s/BiletskyAndriy/5119?embed=1
[generic] 5119?embed=1: Requesting header

WARNING: [generic] Falling back on generic information extractor.

[generic] 5119?embed=1: Downloading webpage
[generic] 5119?embed=1: Extracting information

[download] Downloading playlist: Андрій Білецький
[generic] Playlist Андрій Білецький: Downloading 2 videos of 2
[download] Downloading video 1 of 2

[info] 5119?embed=1-1: Downloading 1 format(s): 0
[download] Destination: Андрій Білецький (1) [5119embed=1-1].mp4

[download] 100% of 6.39MiB in 00:03
[download] Downloading video 2 of 2

[info] 5119?embed=1-2: Downloading 1 format(s): 0
[download] Destination: Андрій Білецький (2) [5119embed=1-2].mp4

[download] 100% of 6.39MiB in 00:02
[download] Finished downloading playlist: Андрій Білецький

Given the NYT said these were videos of soldiers piling out of a trench, I
don't think those two videos are correct or at least something is wrong.

[Paul]

On 5/14/2023 4:57 AM, Incubus wrote:
> On 2023-05-13, Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:
>> yt-dlp https://t.me/s/BiletskyAndriy/5119
>
> This page says to add "?embed=1" to the end of the string above.
> https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/23376
>
>
> But it did not seem to make any difference in the output.
>
>
>
> yt-dlp.exe https://t.me/s/BiletskyAndriy/5119?embed=1
> [generic] 5119?embed=1: Requesting header
> WARNING: [generic] Falling back on generic information extractor.
> [generic] 5119?embed=1: Downloading webpage
> [generic] 5119?embed=1: Extracting information

> [download] Downloading playlist: ������ ���������
> [generic] Playlist ������ ���������: Downloading 2 videos of 2

> [download] Downloading video 1 of 2
> [info] 5119?embed=1-1: Downloading 1 format(s): 0

> [download] Destination: ������ ��������� (1) [5119embed=1-1].mp4

> [download] 100% of 6.39MiB in 00:03
> [download] Downloading video 2 of 2
> [info] 5119?embed=1-2: Downloading 1 format(s): 0

> [download] Destination: ������ ��������� (2) [5119embed=1-2].mp4

> [download] 100% of 6.39MiB in 00:02

> [download] Finished downloading playlist: ������ ���������

>
> Given the NYT said these were videos of soldiers piling out of a trench, I
> don't think those two videos are correct or at least something is wrong.

Agreed. I'm not satisfied with the result, and suspect
the downloader extracted the wrong thing. As far as I know,
it can extract more than one item from a page. To debug this,
you'd really need the source page, to judge just what happened.

You could also check the yt-dlp command help, as there are likely to be options
to control that. I don't use yt-dlp on any sort of regular basis,
and haven't really been "challenged" at getting most stuff. It just
worked, and I moved on.

The yt-dlp people are normally good at their craft, if they
can get at the goods for examination. They have fixed innumerable
broken things (some sites like YT change things on a regular basis,
requiring corrections which are released quickly).

There was a small slice of video on CNN, of a trench and a grenade
tossed in, but nobody came out after the grenade went off. Might not
be the same video.

Paul

[Herbert Kleebauer]

On 14.05.2023 10:48, Incubus wrote:
> On 2023-05-13, Herbert Kleebauer <kl...@unibwm.de> wrote:

>> The video you downloaded can also be viewed in Firefox (9.May
>> on page https://t.me/s/BiletskyAndriy/5119). But this works only
>> for videos smaller than 15 MByte:
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/Telegram/comments/kp34ii/telegram_channel_video_sizes/
>>
>> https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/23376


> I like the idea of the youtube downloader if it works for telegram videos.
>
> What I was hoping for was something like the phone has for youtube which is
> an alternative clever app which gives everyone the same over-18 login.
>
> But I'll try the two suggested youtube downloaders first.
>
> youtube-dl.exe https://t.me/s/BiletskyAndriy/5119

You can't use to youtube downloaders to download Telegram videos
greater than 15 MByte because there are no such videos on the
web site. Any video greater than 15 MByte is replaced by a picture
which says "Media to big. VIEW IN TELEGRAM". This is explained
in the two links above.

> I watched the videos.
> They weren't worth the effort.
>
> But at least I can see a Telegram video using either youtube-dl.exe
> or yt-dlp.exe the next time there is a video posted to telegram.

No, you can only download videos, which you also can watch in
Firefox (videos smaller than 15 MByte). There exist free online
Telegram video downloader, but I suppose they also only work
for videos below 15 MByte.

[Incubus]

On 2023-05-14, Herbert Kleebauer <kl...@unibwm.de> wrote:
> You can't use to youtube downloaders to download Telegram videos
> greater than 15 MByte because there are no such videos on the
> web site. Any video greater than 15 MByte is replaced by a picture
> which says "Media to big. VIEW IN TELEGRAM". This is explained
> in the two links above.

Oh. I thought what I downloaded was the full video (of the guy in the
redlite bunker, which is why I had thought the NYT got it wrong).

I guess that's just the first portion as there were no soldiers jumping
into trenches, despite what the NYT described the video as containing.

So the question remains how to watch telegram videos without having a
telegram account (but it's looking like there is no solution to that).

>> I watched the videos.
>> They weren't worth the effort.
>>
>> But at least I can see a Telegram video using either youtube-dl.exe
>> or yt-dlp.exe the next time there is a video posted to telegram.
>
> No, you can only download videos, which you also can watch in
> Firefox (videos smaller than 15 MByte). There exist free online
> Telegram video downloader, but I suppose they also only work
> for videos below 15 MByte.

I wish there was an open source telegram replacement that does what you
want it to do (logs in anonymously, let's you see everything even the
over-18 trench videos & even allows download & subscribing without needing
your own account) like the youtube open source replacement does.

Thanks for clarifying because I know nothing about telegram.

[Incubus]

On 2023-05-14, Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:
> Agreed. I'm not satisfied with the result, and suspect
> the downloader extracted the wrong thing. As far as I know,
> it can extract more than one item from a page. To debug this,
> you'd really need the source page, to judge just what happened.

I didn't realize that red-lit bunker scene wasn't the whole video only
after Herbert Kleebauer explained that the youtube downloaders can't get
the whole video because it's too big.

One question, I guess, is what the heck was that red-lit bunker scene?

Is it the first half of the cited video? I don't know, but it certainly
wasn't anyone piling out of M113s like the NYT links said it would show.

> You could also check the yt-dlp command help, as there are likely to be options
> to control that. I don't use yt-dlp on any sort of regular basis,
> and haven't really been "challenged" at getting most stuff. It just
> worked, and I moved on.

I tried the "?embed=1" option but it made absolutely no difference.

BTW, I don't have the same problem with Reddit videos of the trench warfare
as Firefox has no problems watching Reddit videos. Only Telegram videos.

Why can you watch this long trench warfare reddit video but not telegram?
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/13dthoi/full_video_of_the_russian_surrendering_and_work/

> The yt-dlp people are normally good at their craft, if they
> can get at the goods for examination. They have fixed innumerable
> broken things (some sites like YT change things on a regular basis,
> requiring corrections which are released quickly).

There may be legal reasons as I know the open source youtube replacement
app for the smartphone has a page where it says it uses only the google
calls to a youtube page that any web browser is allowed to use.

I was hoping there was an open source telegram replacement that does
exactly what every single person who doesn't have an account would want it
to do, like the open source youtube app replacement does on the smartphone.

That youtube replacement app on the smartphone can view any youtube video
without the user having to create an account, and more important, it can
see the blurred out youtube trench videos which, if you use the google app,
require the account to be over 18 but the open source replacement does not.

> There was a small slice of video on CNN, of a trench and a grenade
> tossed in, but nobody came out after the grenade went off. Might not
> be the same video.

Yes. I saw that one on YouTube where I searched for the full-length
unedited one which showed a dozen enemy attacking the trench and one
throwing a grenade at the trench (you can clearly see the grenade).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A2bXDQCyMNc

I think the longest one (which are the ones I try to find) is the link I
showed above, where this is an interview with the guy who took the video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hUX_1B0zUt0

It even shows them getting hit with small arms fire and then smoking so
much that I looked through the comments to see why people smoke up when hit
by a dozen bullets (I did not find anyone else who asked that question).

Interestingly, the soldier is a young kid who says he hones his skills on
the windows computer using video games to look for enemy attackers.
https://ain.capital/2023/03/29/i-get-my-tactical-skills-from-pubg/

But what I want is the same open source kind of app for telegram that
exists for youtube, which is an open source app that does everything you'd
want it to do without needing an account & not only what telegram wants.

[mike]

On 13-05-2023 10:59 Winston <w...@UBEBLOCK.psr.com.invalid> wrote:

> That's not a browser issue, and the "too big" message is from Telegram.
> Only "small"/"short" (as decided by Telegram) videos may be viewed by
> someone not logged in to Telegram.

What's needed is a Windows foss stand-in app for each of these feeds
where no login is needed to view and download the content in the feeds.

Facebook
Reddit
Telegram
Twitter
Youtube

[Paul]

On 5/14/2023 2:07 PM, Incubus wrote:

>
> But what I want is the same open source kind of app for telegram that
> exists for youtube, which is an open source app that does everything you'd
> want it to do without needing an account & not only what telegram wants.

Just about everything on the Internet, has some sort of membership
rules, so "bandwidth is not wasted on random visitors".

It's why for a couple of web forums, I need a membership, just so
I can download the odd schematic for something.

Telegram has some crypto scheme, and that's likely why they
have their own softwares. It's not just about information transfer.
It's information transfer "done in a particular style".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_%28software%29

Paul

[Incubus]

On 2023-05-15, Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:
> It's not just about information transfer.
> It's information transfer "done in a particular style".

But if that "particular style" is public, then a foss app can be written
which creates a random user-id of an over-18 user like this app does.
https://newpipe.net/press/

See the FAQ section titled "Does NewPipe use the YouTube API?"
https://newpipe.net/FAQ/

"No. NewPipe does not rely on the YouTube API, as using it requires an API
key bringing with it specific regulations and restrictions. YouTube would
then have more options of tracking your YouTube usage at their disposal.
Therefore, NewPipe Extractor gets the information by parsing YouTube
websites."

What does that mean in terms of "information transfer", I don't know.
But I think it means that the app uses whatever Firefox would use.

Somehow that allows you to not only watch over-18 trench videos, but
subscribe to the channels and download them and strip out audio somehow.

I use that on the phone but I think you can cast the phone to the PC so I
could watch it on the big screen if I dug into how to do that casting.

What I was hoping for is a foss telegram replacement that does the same
thing as that foss youtube replacement app does with the login & viewing.

[Michael]

On Sat, 13 May 2023 03:37:01 -0000 (UTC), Incubus wrote:

> This may be behind a paywall but this NYT article today is the straw that
> broke the camel's back for me, since this happens ten times a day for me.
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/12/world/europe/ukraine-bakhmut-russia.html

I see it in FF the time where Firefox can't display it due to size limits.
https://avia-pro.net/video/sokrushitelnye-prilyoty-po-zdaniyam-v-berislave-hersonskoy-oblasti
--
[I filter out Google Groups posts so if I don't reply, that may be why.]

[socialite]

On Sun, 14 May 2023 18:07:26 -0000 (UTC), Incubus wrote:

> BTW, I don't have the same problem with Reddit videos of the trench warfare
> as Firefox has no problems watching Reddit videos. Only Telegram videos.
>
> Why can you watch this long trench warfare reddit video but not telegram?
> https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/13dthoi/full_video_of_the_russian_surrendering_and_work/

I have a problem with the reddit pages being blurred in firefox.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/13hfwn8/confirmed_reports_coming_in_that_col_vyacheslav/

Is that blurred for just me? Or for anyone else?
If it's blurred for you, but the other one is not blurred, why is that?

[Paul]

"reddit pages being blurred"

Should look like this. Protected by an "Age 18" banner and challenge.
Well, it's social media, innit.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/kD3fFmpW/reddit-age-18.gif

To see the dialog clearly, I had to mess around a bit.
That dialog was copied from a second computer/browser combo.
If the browser window is made big enough, the two dialogs
move apart enough so you can read them.

Paul

[Xavier Aguirre]

On Mon, 15 May 2023 00:07:16 +0530, mike wrote:

> What's needed is a Windows foss stand-in app for each of these feeds
> where no login is needed to view and download the content in the feeds.
>
> Facebook
> Reddit
> Telegram
> Twitter
> Youtube

If you can't find an app, maybe use a throwaway mail like mailinator or
hushmail but they might want your phone number to verify the email.

[bianca liz]

[bianca liz]

RECOVERY OF LOST FUNDS (BINARY OPTIONS, BITCOINS, LOAN SCAM).
THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE Pinnacle financials, hiring a professional cyber security agency has been one of the world most technical valued navigating information. High prolific information and Privileges comes rare as it has been understood that what people do not see, they will never know.
Welcome to the PINNACLE FINANCIALS RECOVERY agency where every request concerning lost funds are recovered within a short period of time.
The crucial benefit of contacting The Pinnacle Financials recovery company is
• ZERO TRACES: After a successful penetration recovery is carried out by the Global-KOS, no active or passive attacks will be used to trace any of our actions to our clients or our organization. One common practice that attackers employ to evade detection is to break into poorly secured systems and use those hijacked systems as proxies through which they can launch and route attacks. Attackers effort on this platform are useless because we use a strong proxy firewall switching and a firm security system to prevent unauthorized bodies from tracking or modifying our network accessible resources. I.e the hacker and clients are 100% safe and anonymous.
WHATSAPP: https://wa.me/message/43H3SCYNSMBAL1
WEBSITE : https://tinyurl.com/bdzyvu3u
ADVANTAGE TO CLIENTS:
after helping a client recover all money lost to fraudulent practices, most of this clients comes back requesting we provide the same service in disguise as another person. We found a way to issue serial Numbers to each clients who seeks our help and services for identification purposes because we are not interested in you
r names nor location. But we urge that individuals shouldn't abuse this opportunities as we have provided value to you.
However, on this platform of recovery, you will be assigned to a designated professional recovery platform who is systematically known for operating on a dark web protocol. The operation of these hackers is to potentially deploy a distinguished cyber security technique to retrieving back the victims stolen funds via the application of a diverse CM breacher which enables you to track the data location of a scammer and extract every data on the con database. This is achieved using the systematic courier tracking method.
Which of the uneasy situation do you find yourself in right now?
(BITCOIN INVESTMENTS, BINARY OPTIONS OR LOAN SCAM?
This shocking study points to one harsh reality we all faced with today. It saddens our mind when a client expresses annoyance or dissatisfaction of unethical behaviors of scammers. We have striven to make tenacious efforts to help those who are victims of this fleas get off their traumatic feeling of loss
WHATSAPP : https://wa.me/message/43H3SCYNSMBAL1
WEBSITE : https://tinyurl.com/bdzyvu3u




-p